Why Does Everybody HATE This Version of the Audi TT Mk1???

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5 ай бұрын

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In this video we take a bit of a dive into the question of 'Why Does Everybody Hate the Audi TT Mk1 180 Version?' and I break it down with the help of a friend to try and understand why there is this hatred towards the Audi TT mk1 180 version compared with the 225.
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@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

So what do you guys think? After all the information in this video, would you now consider a 180? Let me know in the comments! 👇👇

@ronrichardson3103 5 ай бұрын

I have a 190 bhp. tt. And i love it .ive had it 6. years now . Its a two wheel drive car a 180. Upgraded model .and i think the best .. its got no 4 wheel drive to go wrong . its trouble free costs peanuts to run . Im giving my car all the love . If you dont want a 180 or a 190 thats your choice. Mine is great and im happy with it .

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the insight to a 180 ownership! Also, with it being 2wd, she is a very rare version! Keep looking after her, and keeping the TT on the road!

@FiTekno 3 ай бұрын

I had few points of buying fwd 180hp instead of quattro. - Hardly driven at all in winter time, so in practice its rust free and will be (because road salt not used in summer heh) - It's lighter (Good on track and better fuel economy) - more simple, no extra haldex/awd stuff (Still good on track, traction is not a issue under 300hp fwd. Also better fuel economy, less breakable parts)

@wynhughes9072 4 ай бұрын

I've owned 2 180 quattros and loved them. Traded up eventually to a 3.2 Manual. Great car and sadly missed.

@Jorcap 4 ай бұрын

I have a 180 quattro with 223 hp and 350nm. So more potent than standard 225 version. Its quick enough and I bought it because it was a mint car. I’d prefer a mint 180 quattro instead of a meh version 225.

@jerequan1282 3 ай бұрын

Considering the only difference is one has a ko4 instead of the ko3.. You'd be making the right choice

@GarryAustin-xp8nl 2 ай бұрын

180 TT Quattro is boss I love my one 👍

@dujuanjohnson5025 Ай бұрын

180 TT Quattro the best!!!!!!!

@alisonhowes8498 3 ай бұрын

i have 150 fwd and it is less stressed than a big engine and less likely to fail

@ViktorJ0van0vski 21 күн бұрын

Love it how the window doesn't drop and the door is open 🤣🤣🤣 typical tts...

@RetroFixer101 5 ай бұрын

Tbf that 180 is in amazing condition and the interior is in really nice condition it’s obviously been well looked after, I wonder how many miles has it done?

@schwantz037 5 ай бұрын

That is a nice colour and the interior really goes well with it....

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree with you more!

@TTAutowerks94 5 ай бұрын

Forgot to mention the fact that the 225 has a Larger turbo, Bigger injectors, Bugger MAF, Egt sensor, Wideband O2 sensor & is Far easier & safer to tune to stage 2 😊

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

I didn’t know that it is safer to tune, thanks for the insight!

@TTAutowerks94 5 ай бұрын

@@JoshsPOV yes, it's safer to tune due to the Egt sensor (at extremely high Egt temps ECU will over fuel to save the turbo & engine) and the wideband 02 sensor gives the ability to accurately tune to a desired afr and also measure it :) I'm on 300bhp stock Bam turbo injectors, engine, clutch gearbox etc

@Tom-pb6vs Ай бұрын

What grille is on this car and did it come with the badge?

@Dirpitz 4 ай бұрын

Love that colour, I can't really weigh in as I'm a sucker for sound so have the 3.2 myself

@gregr3283 3 ай бұрын

The Mk 1 TT is the most purist of beautiful designs. I groan when I see the crazy mods people make and compromise the original. The 225 has a fun factor at higher ranges of RPM that the 180 can't reach, even though the 180 spools up faster. It depends on your goals for driving experience. I'll never trade my 225 Roadster.

@kimchristianpacis7338 Ай бұрын

Thank you very much, this video was very helpful

@paulhopkins9251 5 ай бұрын

Really like the colour combo with the leather interior contrast.As for the 180 I would still have my 225 .We are all different but we all love the TT MK1 😎

@JoshsPOV 4 ай бұрын

Right on brother!

@DubKorpsGLI 5 ай бұрын

I own the 180 quattro and have worked on a few 225s and I will say I'm glad I went with the 180. Got it for cheaper than any 225 in my area and I planned on doing alot to it. So all the nicer bigger things it comes with got taken off anyway and the 225 has a weird layout that I'm not a fan of when it comes time to do maintenance or parts swaps.

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

The 180 does seem much simpler to work on!

@Rico1973 5 ай бұрын

Mk3 TTRS owner here, always had a soft spot for the Mk1 but was never in a position to own one with kids etc. That Mk1 180 looks mint but it would have to be your Sport 240 if I was to own one. P.S new subscriber here 👍🏻

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

Welcome to the gang! My QS is awesome, but she does need a lot of work to be looking her best!

@robertchau6248 Ай бұрын

What exhaust? Sounds badass

@dinointhetube 24 күн бұрын

I got a mk1 registered 9/9/99 180bhp Quattro 5spd full service history mainly Audi 50k miles from new. Mods= 0 completely original will keep it that way . Silver black leather. I bought it because of its originality and not for a sports car but the style.

@user-lt7cv9yd3s 4 ай бұрын

I have a 180 had it for nearly 4yrs it's a pocket rocket

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 5 ай бұрын

Ahh so the 180 FWD is in similar numbers to the QS! Must be worth a mint! 😁

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

That is very true, well spotted!

@AnthonyDurand1 4 ай бұрын

Easier to maintain the engine as you don’t have to remove the engine for clutch and gearbox work with that awkward Haldex.. I recently came into a market for a 180 Quattro and all Audi I get in future will be fitted with catchcans as the 1.8t is a pain for gathering dirt/creamy sludge in the engine.. my S3 8L is living proof that catchcans work

@markparry4320 Ай бұрын

I've 150 AUM - with stage 1 to 187bhp - 100kg lighter than quatro so pulls around 7.5 to 60

@DanielGonzalez-tz7ns 3 ай бұрын

Just watched this video. been on the look out for a good 225 for about a month now with little joy as i’d dismissed the 180. This has made me reconsider cheers guys

@JoshsPOV 3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome man - good luck with the search!

@medrian 3 ай бұрын

I have a mint 180 FWD, FSH, 69k miles. I have spent roughly 4k on the car to make it how I want and love it. Only about 215BHP but fast enough for me.

@JoshsPOV 3 ай бұрын

That’s all you need! And that’s awesome you have it just as you want it to be! Keep racking up them miles! 🚙💨

@wesayso3300 Ай бұрын

Being 200 KG lighter than a Quatro helps too ;)

@johnwhite9994 3 ай бұрын

that paint😍😍

@grankristiansen6864 2 ай бұрын

I bought 1🫀TT 1.8t 180/ + s3 turbo/remus exhaust/sport lowered and suspension etc. Mk1 8n3 black "its a project" Always loved TT, since i saw it in 99 and the opportunity to🤯 drive it a weekend i was 19🤩 And its like the man says its the best drive 3:07 3:37

@GunitEngage Ай бұрын

The K03 turbo can be replaced by a hybrid upgrade, and stage 1 for under 300€ gives you 230 HP and you have a larger trunk. Still have a BAM now with 3" exhaust/catback, FMIC and upgrade K04 goes way better and actually i use the AWD quite good😅 If you cant afford to repair a haldex you can run it without it... used FWD are a few couple of thousand cheaper and lower insurance rates. In Germany we have plenty more FWD sold and still "alive", but they are es used, worn and old as the 225 APX/BAM.

@GunitEngage Ай бұрын

To conclude: to buy a TT is the easiest part, to maintain and repair will be the bigger investment, of course lower without the Haldex&Goodies of a BAM/APX, exponentially if you rely on a shop for repair. But then maybe a TT is not the best option out there anyway.

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

Make sure you drop the video a LIKE! It helps the channel out more than you realise!

@banksy444 5 ай бұрын

The thing with the 180's or at least my engine code is that i believe if you took all the equipment off a 225 and put it in my car it would be faster than a standard 225. The engine compression ratio is higher than the BAM engines. Only downside with the 180 is they don't have wide band o2 sensors just a single band which makes tuning it a lot less finessed.

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the insight!

@lilsleepy4life 3 ай бұрын

difference between the 180 and 225 1. Turbos 180=Ko3 225-Ko4 2. Injectors 180=250cc 225-380cc 3. Transmission 180=5 speed 225= 6 speed 4. MAF 180=2.75" 225-3" 5. Cant think of anything else lol

@shemmo 5 ай бұрын

I owned 180 quattro, i bought it, bcs it was in a good condition and i dont drive fast anyway, i love the design

@KingFrancois76 5 ай бұрын

I got an 1.8t 180 I got raceland coilovers R8 coil pack 550 injectors Spa intake manifold Forge bov Downpipe Black widow exhaust 3 inch tubing to double tips Xs power f21 hybrid turbo Stage one tune Its def gonna give me 300hp for sure

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

Nice! Are you based in the UK?

@AnthonyDurand1 4 ай бұрын

So your turned the one that doesn’t have lag into something that’s absolutely insane? Always a negative for the Bam engine is turbo lag. 😂

@UptownFights 5 ай бұрын

I have had many. Get the 225. The gettyup is much noticeable, more gears to. I've never seen a AWD (all wheel drive) 185 in the states. Plus the AWD the front wheels don't get very much power, unless your slipping, I think its 20%/80% split. I've seen my rear wheels spinning on the ice and fronts barely spinning. But get 185. Transmission and engine are very noticeably different.

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

I thought it was 80/20 split to the front wheels? Maybe somebody else can confirm/deny this?

@redpacg5128 24 күн бұрын

@@JoshsPOV it is to the front wheels yes

@neilyoung5029 Ай бұрын

If you can’t find a mint 225 you’re not looking hard enough

@mertkorkmazzzz 3 ай бұрын

I have a 180hp FWD, my family owned the car before me for 8 years but never had big problems except stupid electronic problems like no radio and nothing works on speedometer which still is a problem

@JoshsPOV 3 ай бұрын

Time for lots of upgrades I am hearing! 🤣

@paulmartin8100 5 ай бұрын

Great video, not sure I agree with the often trotted-out dis of the 2WD, its a great car!

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

Hahaha, don't worry we all love TT's 😆

@paulmartin8100 5 ай бұрын

@@JoshsPOV The 2WD is a great car. I prefer not dragging around the weight and drive shafts etc of the Haldex, or having to service it. The car looks the same and spools up quickly. I'd say i prefer a 2WD 108! (but appreciate people like the allure of the bigger numbers). What about a FWD 180 Auto, that's a rare and unloved version?

@frenchcarguy 5 ай бұрын

The cars are old enough now that for me, it's all about condition and affordability. I've owned 180 front trak and 225 Qs and I find the 180 front trak to be a very pleasant, fun driver. Between those 2, the big difference for me is that the front trak has a 5 rather than a 6 speed so it's working harder on the interstates. I live in the US and interstate traffic tends to be either at a standstill or moving at 90mph. I would have to say that for me, much of the pleasure is in the visual, and they're equally lovely to my eyes. Regardless of horsepower, the style is iconic, pure class and elegance.

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree with you more, and thank you for your insight!💙

@user-lt7cv9yd3s 3 ай бұрын

I've had my tt 4yrs full bodt respray new wings sill all mechanical I have done love it

@JoshsPOV 3 ай бұрын

That’s awesome!

@user-lt7cv9yd3s 3 ай бұрын

You will love my reg Y2000TT

@curtisjackson7382 Ай бұрын

might be a weird question but how tall are you? i'm looking at buying one but i'm 6'5 (195 cms) so not sure how well i'll fit in it. you kinda look tall but don't look too big for it

@JoshsPOV Ай бұрын

Not a weird question at all! So I’m 6’4 - it’s been a while since I sat in a TT with standard seats, but I have videos on the channel with me doing that so you can see how I fit in them. But my QS has the Recaros and so drops the seating position massively so I can easily fit. If I was you, I’d look at buying a new set of seats, just so you can fit more comfortably, however as mentioned in other videos it’s not needed, just a preference👍 Hope that helps!

@XVDBENZINOVX 5 ай бұрын

I had that Audi TT mk1 I put a bigger turbo in it and stage 1 mapped it to 300 BHP it was sooo much fun to drive 😅😅 but I sold it because it simply wasn’t Practical at all 🤦‍♂️

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

Audi TT are the most practical cars ever! 👀

@user-id7sy9hw2u 5 ай бұрын

O drive a 180 Roadster Quattro and I really do love it

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

That’s awesome! Where are you based?

@harmwilmes7901 4 ай бұрын

love my fwd. and from 1998 whitout the spoiler. could be more rare then the 3.2!

@markparry4320 Ай бұрын

Weren't introduced to uk until 2003 , were are you

@jjharv73 Ай бұрын

Hmm, let me see so for 5 grand more I can get 45hp, Six speed and all wheel drive. 31,200 base coupe, 225 awd 36,200. 225 all day long.

@Gollas4k 5 ай бұрын

I got a 2wd 180... not by choice but because I inherited it from my grandpa. I mean some extra horses would be nice sometimes although it´s definitely not slow but I prefer the sentimental value over the glorified traction control Haldex system which audi falsely called quattro... jk, I love all TTs

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

What a cool back story to your TT! No hate here! All TT enthusiasts 4wd or fwd, everybody is welcome!💙

@vaudi_one6386 2 ай бұрын

„Only 180hp“ mate, i got the 150hp cloth interior 5 speed version give me some credit here please!1

@stuartwinstanley4949 5 ай бұрын

I love my 180 TT and as the man says the 225 have all been ragged to bits,there better on fuel and cheaper to insure 🤯

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

You're spot on!

@psklett 5 ай бұрын

I don’t regret buying my 180 Quattro

@TrinityTrailsninja 5 ай бұрын

I love my TT 225

@ccharraf 5 ай бұрын

I will buy the 225 just for the second pipe

@JoshsPOV 5 ай бұрын

The 1 pipe on the 180 does drive my OCD crazy!

@paulp96275 4 ай бұрын

180 Quattro I’ve just about finished rebuilding and my 163 fwd roadster which is next on the rebuild list love all MK1s a challenge sometimes reasonable priced bits plenty of second hand parts loved my 225 when I had it but very happy with what I have now nearly 70 so boy racings finished but don’t push me 😂👍🇬🇧

@JoshsPOV 4 ай бұрын

Paul age is just a number my friend, and a car enthusiast that loves to work on his cars doesn’t matter if you’re 22 or 102, we all share the same passion! Keep on tinkering brother!😎

@dan_tt_180 4 ай бұрын

180 all day everyday, why? Which is more likely to have been abused in life? Which will eventually be the rare one? 180 with stage 1 will push 225 and if yoh have the original 5 speed youll out pace it.