Tribal Conflict Has Devastated Papua New Guinea

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7 жыл бұрын

"My people, my land. You don’t know how much it’s hurting me”. 25 years ago in Papua New Guinea a violent conflict erupted in the coffee-growing plantations. Is the Ganiga tribal war finally over?
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"This valley was a war zone. And now I’ve come back to find out what happened after I left." Bob Connolly returns to Papua New Guinea where in 1992 he recorded shocking scenes of violence between coffee harvesters depicted in Black Harvest. Coffee prices have climbed again, but the problems of the past still manifest in a region scarred by the divisions of modern and ancient laws.
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@user-teabager
@user-teabager 4 жыл бұрын
That school teacher is a real hero in my eyes no pay and still help the children wow
@tonytucker948
@tonytucker948 4 жыл бұрын
he is a real human being ........ a hero ...... an example for all of us who are already blessed ....... when is enough ; enough ;(
@SuperDave-vj9en
@SuperDave-vj9en 4 жыл бұрын
Help me understand...... Is the coffee plantation owner and his son from the tribe or are they outsiders that came to set up a plantation?
@user-teabager
@user-teabager 4 жыл бұрын
Super Dave no he and his f father took over the property of his great grandfather been in the family from the start hey look up Parkers Trail Papua New Guinea gold rush and you’ll see that grandson in there with the glasses explaining everything to you
@hurtigheinz3790
@hurtigheinz3790 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw this I instantly thought about "KZfaqr" uploading videos like "I bought the cheapest and the most expensive XYZ from Amazon - now watch me unbox both", while the same amount of money could equip the whole classroom and make an impact for a decade. So sad.
@mikehagan4320
@mikehagan4320 4 жыл бұрын
@@hurtigheinz3790 it is sad because many of those people would rather fight than gain knowledge that they know is out there to be had. If you think about it. It is the strongest leaders that don't allow a better balance of modern innovation into there lives. Probably because those individuals leaders know they will loose Power and become less relevant. Though in reality they will loose power and become beloved Heroes.
@lenardtorres1965
@lenardtorres1965 6 жыл бұрын
hats off to the teacher..
@majormediaproductions
@majormediaproductions 5 жыл бұрын
Lenard Torres 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@jq4136
@jq4136 4 жыл бұрын
RIP . didnt last long
@miekkb
@miekkb 4 жыл бұрын
damn he broke me into tears seriously may God bless him....
@bobbymobay
@bobbymobay 4 жыл бұрын
That teacher should post a way for us to contribute!
@moita395
@moita395 4 жыл бұрын
I wish he mentioned the cultural diversity of PNG. The culture of tribal fighting, payback killings and compensation originate from the highland region of our country. Coastal areas do not practise this. This is not a reflection of our country as a whole but a place in the Highlands.
@DaMensch86
@DaMensch86 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a doc about this?
@robihamdani5203
@robihamdani5203 Жыл бұрын
Same like west papua the higland people are so fierce and harsh still practice war tribe
@micol7490
@micol7490 Жыл бұрын
@@DaMensch86 there is a well done documentary on this topic on the Guardian's youtube page...
@KateStewart-ch5tv
@KateStewart-ch5tv Жыл бұрын
​@@micol7490would you be able to link it here? Cheers
@micol7490
@micol7490 Жыл бұрын
@@KateStewart-ch5tv KZfaq don't make me post the link. Search something like "How guns and Hollywood changed tribal disputes in Papua New Guinea"
@lillyie
@lillyie 3 жыл бұрын
why are people blaming the europeans? these people literally are at wars with each other since before the europeans even arrived! it's called a tribal war for a reason
@cricketnerdnz3588
@cricketnerdnz3588 2 жыл бұрын
Blaming the white man is racist and bad is an easy scape goat for everything rather than addressing an actual issue in it's entirety. Not that we are perfect but yeah I agree haha
@christianitis
@christianitis Жыл бұрын
Dey wuz kangz
@HarrySingh-xk2qj
@HarrySingh-xk2qj 2 ай бұрын
The whites divided the land and preferred certain tribes over others, which caused rivalries to further get worse. The same thing happened with the patchy, and the with the soil and the Navajo.. but the crow and uroq are doing horrible because they didn’t cooperate
@Lanatus
@Lanatus 6 жыл бұрын
Even in a society with so few, greed is still a plague.
@FeldwebelWolfenstool
@FeldwebelWolfenstool 6 жыл бұрын
..knew a geologist who worked there in the 90's...said virtually every adult male had knife/axe/sword scars....a single12 gauge birdshot shotgun shell cost $10, a good thing he said...
@leidersammlung6955
@leidersammlung6955 5 жыл бұрын
Emerson used the New Guinea people as a reference to how fast they can heal from wounds compared to civilized peoples , in his essay on individualism . (1835 , or thereabouts.) A very violent people , throughout recorded history.
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong 3 жыл бұрын
@@leidersammlung6955 no more than any other people ...take the land of Israel for example the western icon of civilization and culture ...basically a blood soaked rock strewn war zone for the last 6000 years
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong 3 жыл бұрын
@@leidersammlung6955 I agree with you clearly ...but it is true about the origins of abrahamic religions and the land of Israel...if I had to choose one geographical location that represents a guiding force for western culture it would be Israel. That's why it's been so hotly contested, conquered, reconquered again and again from the time of the pharos to the present ....each conquering force building their own temple on top of the last one ...its important alright, not that I believe in the hype, it's just all history to me
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong 3 жыл бұрын
@@leidersammlung6955 I get it, the interesting history of that part of the mediteranean starts in the neolithic with the advent of modern wheat, a natural cross between spelt and wild rye grass then exploited by humans ...for me, that's interesting anyway..the rest is just blood soaked conflict.
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong 3 жыл бұрын
@@leidersammlung6955 I never asserted that food was the most integral part of a civilization ..you said that, i just said i find that time period to be the most interesting. Hunger is not an instinct either, you seem to be a bit jumbled up in how you look at stuff ..anyway good luck to you
@grahamt5924
@grahamt5924 4 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine worked in png for 10 years but as soon as he got married, his wife demanded that they leave as soon as she became pregnant. The lawlessness will make most peoples jaw drop.
@brianbutton6346
@brianbutton6346 Жыл бұрын
To me this was an amazing story. It also contained elements about the father-son relationship, which I thought was powerful. It kinda struck home. I am deeply grateful for having found this content late at night, while suffering insomnia.
@kevinmoor6408
@kevinmoor6408 Жыл бұрын
You certainly will can't write the facts on You tube.
@collinlaraen5742
@collinlaraen5742 7 жыл бұрын
Thisis the one of the greatest documentaries I have ever watched
@kathryncarter6143
@kathryncarter6143 3 жыл бұрын
More upfront honesty than a lot of them.
@andywilliam367
@andywilliam367 3 жыл бұрын
For real man and it's a scary one
@tmoney7842
@tmoney7842 7 жыл бұрын
Tribal warfare seems to always be the norm in PNG fascinating culture.
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. West Papua ( part of of Indonesia ) also having these custom. Our government back then, desperately trying to bring these folks into civilization. Every possible and thinkable way, including brute forcing them to stop kill each other. Confisticating every weapon, arresting their leader, and those who refuse to be pacified. Guess what we get? UN sanction for human rights violation.
@ibobeko4309
@ibobeko4309 5 жыл бұрын
​@@fajaradi1223 You get the UN sanction for East Timor and not for West Papua Genua.
@keslastark6337
@keslastark6337 4 жыл бұрын
@@fajaradi1223 excellent excuse!
@SirHosisofLiver
@SirHosisofLiver 4 жыл бұрын
Well, you can see it in the US too..
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 4 жыл бұрын
@B M Naaah ... It was the smiling general troops. Not me, coz I'm a part of a new Indonesia.
@gregorypilau3530
@gregorypilau3530 4 жыл бұрын
In Papua New Guinea you have to classify the country into 4 regions below. Tribal fights only occurs in the Highlands region. You won't find it in the other 3. 1 Islands region 2 Papuan region 3 Momase region 4 Highlands region
@kap849
@kap849 2 жыл бұрын
I have never experienced war in my entire life. But that's all the "outside world" knows about Africa. That doesn't mean that there hasn't been political and tribal wars, even in my own country, one of the "peaceful" African countries. I have learnt to do my research on issues like this one above.
@nathanmerritt1581
@nathanmerritt1581 2 жыл бұрын
@@kap849 you do realise this videos not Africa right?
@kap849
@kap849 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmerritt1581 Pardon me but what I meant is that after hearing people say how much war there is in Africa, anytime I get "negative" information about a country, I take it with a grain of salt because from my experience, there's always more to the story. Dunno if that makes sense. I must have typed late at night and probably didn't make much sense.
@kap849
@kap849 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmerritt1581 lol, I do know PNG from my interactions with people from the Island.
@sr969
@sr969 8 ай бұрын
In west papua, the separatist were also highlands people while the rest, esp the coastal and islands people are pretty much pro indonesia
@georgfriedrichhandel4390
@georgfriedrichhandel4390 5 жыл бұрын
PNG is perhaps the most improbable nation on earth. It is just two generations removed from headhunting, many parts of the country still offer a window to what the world must have been like more than 10,000 years ago (sort of like a human Jurassic Park but without having to clone the cavemen) and the people speak more than 850 languages(!) though it does have it own pidgin language (Tok Pisin) which serves as a lingua franca for the entire country. It is the only nation that went directly from the Stone Age to the Atomic Age in less than 50 years. For an anthropologist like me, this is El Dorado!
@TheEbukentiy
@TheEbukentiy 5 жыл бұрын
Как в своё время Монголия из феодализма сразу прыгнула в социализм, минуя капитализм. А ПНГ ещё предстоит пройти через искус социализмом. Демоны, именуемые на человеческом языке Маркс, Энгельс, Ленин, Троцкий, не дремлют.
@OGTrollTroll8
@OGTrollTroll8 4 жыл бұрын
True
@mayreacts8030
@mayreacts8030 4 жыл бұрын
@Hdolf Aitler we don't need you all
@coopboulton
@coopboulton 4 жыл бұрын
@Hdolf Aitler it's definitely racist (you are Hitler so of course) to think you can't teach people who haven't been exposed to more advanced technologies how to use them. And the that more advanced Nations don't have a responsibility to help out less Advanced Nation is completely acceptable accept for the more advanced countries colonized and economically exploited. PNG was colonised by the UK, GERMANY and Australia so I feel like those countries do you have responsibilities to help them, I don't think anybody else does.
@yams3954
@yams3954 3 жыл бұрын
@Hdolf Aitler of course adolf hitller would say this
@gregmalie9213
@gregmalie9213 7 жыл бұрын
Bob Conolly a common name in the highlands- in the making of first contact and the A great story revisited again ....amazing we have been following your story!
@timrobertsgb
@timrobertsgb 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the place .……. It’s ALWAYS had tribal conflict
@Pradeep.Poonia
@Pradeep.Poonia 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell more about it.
@donaldtrump2107
@donaldtrump2107 4 жыл бұрын
Different tribes fight for land women or resources but in the olden days it was done with rules and after fighting there was compensation paid to the victims tribes but today it's different because of the white mans weapon
@TheJumperYT
@TheJumperYT 4 жыл бұрын
Donald Trump you could just say guns instead of making it racial, but everyone wants to blame someone. Some people blame races, some blame religions, and the people who know how the world works know when blame is justified and when it isn’t, instead of just blaming it on a different group of people no matter how much influence they actually had. But i guess people just hate to think rationally and would rather find something to argue over, its all over the internet
@jakerobert3118
@jakerobert3118 4 жыл бұрын
where do you live now?
@nou1438
@nou1438 4 жыл бұрын
​@@donaldtrump2107 they just got more potent weapons and could carry out their wishes
@veggiedisease123
@veggiedisease123 5 жыл бұрын
Are we just going to ignore the armless kid writing with his feet? That was fucking insane.
@emmanuelleahy250
@emmanuelleahy250 3 жыл бұрын
AHHHHH YESSSS, his name is Emmanuel same as mine he is an awesome friend man I miss him His penmanship beats mine by a mile, it’s incredible
@moreenkasu2925
@moreenkasu2925 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe Lae for being a great pioneer for PNG Coffee growers!!!
@emmanuelleahy250
@emmanuelleahy250 3 жыл бұрын
Leahy*
@thirstiestvillager9233
@thirstiestvillager9233 3 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelleahy250 maybe he should pronounce it that way then lol
@MrAdal206
@MrAdal206 5 жыл бұрын
That’s their business! This has been going on for thousands of years
@chetmcmasterson
@chetmcmasterson 4 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting that we ought not decry bloodshed, just because it's tradition?
@Isura101
@Isura101 4 жыл бұрын
@@chetmcmasterson Do you complain when the lion kills a deer?
@chetmcmasterson
@chetmcmasterson 4 жыл бұрын
@@Isura101 You don't see a difference between the purposeful behavior of sapient humans and the instinctive behavior of wild animals?
@johnlal1413
@johnlal1413 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@HaraKiriMaxir
@HaraKiriMaxir 4 жыл бұрын
@@Isura101 yah kinda dumb reply intellegent beings compared to instinctive ones...
@ewanshaw4802
@ewanshaw4802 7 жыл бұрын
Really interesting doc. A good example of the difficulties that can arise between different systems of land tenure and ownership; the lease hold of central government in contrast to the regional forms of tribal land distribution .PNG is such a beautiful place
@Longtack55
@Longtack55 4 жыл бұрын
"Him fella belong me." (He's my son.) Beautiful language.
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 4 жыл бұрын
erry ting gwarn be ai-ree!
@datiller9035
@datiller9035 3 жыл бұрын
Or "Em pikinini bilong mi"
@war13omerta66
@war13omerta66 3 жыл бұрын
@@datiller9035 em nau. ol pikini man pikini meri blong mi
@ioanpena
@ioanpena 6 жыл бұрын
You cannot bring people from stoneage to silicon based technology in just a couple of generations. They need education !!!
@kaiser8777
@kaiser8777 5 жыл бұрын
@@covenawhite4855 shut up
@enzotraverso1655
@enzotraverso1655 5 жыл бұрын
Exactely they need education, church, and work
@MichSignMan
@MichSignMan 5 жыл бұрын
That guitar player doesn't... as I sure don't either, just to make stickers all day.
@alanbstard4
@alanbstard4 5 жыл бұрын
black is a colour, not a race
@alleeoop4834
@alleeoop4834 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but the conflict I just saw (you might have seen another one) had only bows and arrows and spears. But you never know, White guys may have come to the jungle to make those for the warriors, isn't that right?
@majormediaproductions
@majormediaproductions 5 жыл бұрын
"Its MY COMMUNITY and I have to serve it, its what I have to do"....this actually brought a tear to my eye😢 Sometimes life is not all about us but about the people we help serve👊🏾
@DavidMGKiza
@DavidMGKiza 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Leahy, one of the first indigenous business man from the Highlands of PNG. Great respect for this man.
@treerat7631
@treerat7631 5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@tdotjazzberryram61
@tdotjazzberryram61 4 жыл бұрын
But Joe had the nerve to insult his " indignant " half as long as shit was going his way, and they stay in their place. As was picked up from the "western half" in the first place, in spite of being disregarded by his own father .
@itzsian9340
@itzsian9340 4 жыл бұрын
@tdotjazzberryram61 stop talking about my grand father like that
@itzsian9340
@itzsian9340 4 жыл бұрын
@tdotjazzberryram61 he never did anything bad
@flipsvaldes8325
@flipsvaldes8325 7 ай бұрын
To hear George say he wants to off hinself because he feels worthless, and gets the blame for being axed is one of the saddest things ive ever heard, im a grown ass man, i just want to tell him it's not your fault brother...its not your fault. Seeing that teacher not get paid for years but wanting his community to move forward is inspiring, i am an Aussie, originally from Chile, and i am a product of the wonderful society that Australia is, PNG is a beautiful place with amazing prospects for its future as its rich in natural resources, what they need, is good governance and social change, thank you uploader for this wonderful wonderful documentary
@zackmouses
@zackmouses 4 жыл бұрын
Day 29 of Quarantine: I don’t even know what I’m watching anymore!
@TinyMaths
@TinyMaths 4 жыл бұрын
same here
@johnlal1413
@johnlal1413 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@williamjameslehy1341
@williamjameslehy1341 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure I've watched all of KZfaq and read all of Wikipedia at this point.
@daleghim3234
@daleghim3234 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamjameslehy1341 times two here.
@MrMcPain
@MrMcPain 4 жыл бұрын
Important history
@MarieKayali
@MarieKayali 4 жыл бұрын
Humans will always fight over something , even in the middle of nowhere , says alot about the human race
@chrisjoshua69420
@chrisjoshua69420 3 жыл бұрын
we make mistakes, we're not robots
@timlombardini3556
@timlombardini3556 3 жыл бұрын
The mistakes serve to teach. And the earth is not for man only. It does not belong to humans
@MarieKayali
@MarieKayali 3 жыл бұрын
@@timlombardini3556 the problem is no one is learning even by the mistakes
@timlombardini3556
@timlombardini3556 3 жыл бұрын
Evolution. Learn or pay for it later on. Our job is to keep pointing it out, a reminder. And be the change that we need.
@MarieKayali
@MarieKayali 3 жыл бұрын
@@timlombardini3556 Do you not think that we have been repeating the same mistakes for thousands of years? I do
@feonjun
@feonjun 6 жыл бұрын
Pre-White discovery era, these people were good case study of humanity because they reflected humanity as a whole. 1. They grew crops and raised livestock. 2. Due to abundance of food, population would increase. 3. As population and livestock grew, they put stress on the environment and then eventually one or the other group start encroaching on each other's territories (livestock such as pigs cost as much resources to raise as a human being). 4. With stress on the environment, war ensues, and after many deaths, they make peace and slaughter the livestock for the peace-feasting. 5. After many deaths and reduction of livestock, less stress on the environment, which give breathing space for each tribes, so there would be a period of peace. 6. Cycle continues roughly within the 25 to 30 year period. Coffee price drop, so they destroy the very infrastructures that could have saved their future? Make sense to me.
@maducrutz9384
@maducrutz9384 6 жыл бұрын
Feon Jun life a weird thing ain't it
@davidhirschv7903
@davidhirschv7903 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty sustainable. We could learn from that. Also harsh, another thing we could learn from. The world is not constant nor peaceful and pretending will only make the volcano blow higher.
@davidhirschv7903
@davidhirschv7903 5 жыл бұрын
Depending on if they learned to grow crops from the middle easterners or white or they moved to the land after that point in time.
@djago3580
@djago3580 4 жыл бұрын
Then came guns, and bombs, and drones, and bio-warfare. Not even starting to talk about social control by governing parties. The cycle continues,
@grahamt5924
@grahamt5924 4 жыл бұрын
Even the bible admits there is a time for war.
@matthewmontalvo6795
@matthewmontalvo6795 4 жыл бұрын
So sad. They could be picking wonderful coffee and making money instead; they rather shoot arrows at each other.
@matthewdean8070
@matthewdean8070 3 жыл бұрын
Right !!! Literately 1 day from from them all having it made. Wow, at the point, I'm like, sleep in the bed you made.
@sugoiiibeats
@sugoiiibeats 3 жыл бұрын
When I attended Purdue University I met one of the first young women from this country to attend college here in the US, I had no idea the history behind her culture it’s very interesting
@jordtununto7103
@jordtununto7103 Жыл бұрын
Jim is now running Kilima and exporting Nebilyer coffee. He's also trialing cocoa, honey and vanilla. Kilima is back to life. We need another documentary on this.
@MMK86
@MMK86 Жыл бұрын
any videos on youtube about this?
@suprcrzy
@suprcrzy 4 жыл бұрын
Bless the son, Jim! He seems like a good man, and that his heart is in the right place. Hope it works out for him in the end.
@thegodemperorofmankind7yea704
@thegodemperorofmankind7yea704 3 жыл бұрын
Good man
@jaystanphilipo9409
@jaystanphilipo9409 5 жыл бұрын
Well documented, thanks!
@Kandingone
@Kandingone 3 жыл бұрын
God blessed him,teaching without getting paid..
@rubinkiritparekh
@rubinkiritparekh 3 жыл бұрын
I come from a Tea plantation background ,my Father was a tea Planter in the Hills of South India and so can identify with a lot shown in this clip.The only way I think a venture like coffee plantations and processing faculties would work in a place like this is a cooperative ...A venture that local Papauns own ...Managed by people like Joe.You cant be a millionaire in the middle of no where with people who slog for you just manage to scrap a living....the profits need to go back ...need to be shared.No longer can one ( anywhere) exploit indegenous people and thrive.Take them along and everyone will do just fine.Also as a Horticulturist and a food professional I would recommend not sticking with a single crop ....coffee needs to be combined with other crops carefully selected after studying local climate conditions and the potential for markets for these other crops.A sustainably grown ....ethically managed venture is managed correctly and marketed brillaintly does succeed and there are too many success stories with similar issiues to learn and take inspiration from
@TheJumperYT
@TheJumperYT 4 жыл бұрын
At least this channel doesnt feel the need to voice over the parts where they’re already speaking clear english
@TheHedleyNicholasShow
@TheHedleyNicholasShow 7 жыл бұрын
god bless you bob conolly this is great
@forevergooner4400
@forevergooner4400 5 жыл бұрын
Such a naturally beautiful place
@tomjohn8733
@tomjohn8733 4 жыл бұрын
Good documentary, if memory serves me, no land can be mined or developed without the approval of the local Tribes, no matter what the Government says, this was written into their constitution, I believe.....the people have a strong connection to preserving the environment in it natural state for wildlife and essential farming, so it doesn’t surprise me capitalism and private ownership by outsiders will not be accepted...
@raymondnumdi5032
@raymondnumdi5032 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from here and that your answer as always been our way of living for centuries..
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong 3 жыл бұрын
The Indonesians dont respect this thought in irian jaya
@2ndAmendmentMF
@2ndAmendmentMF 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 they are animals who are holding back there people in a nasty way
@colonelfustercluck486
@colonelfustercluck486 Ай бұрын
go up there and try and open a mine or other business without full acceptance by the locals in advance... if you don't you will be under continual sabotage, damage and possible attack... until you leave. Permission by the national government means nothing up there... these people are the traditional landowners and really control the area. Although PNG is rich, there are stories from all over about people coming in and starting businesses, and then getting thrown out of the area. Any enterprise that generates money will result in a dispute. Even businesses owned by locals... their own people get jealous and make it impossible for the business to continue. Capitalism by the outsiders? Don't worry, the value of money comes first and foremost there, any opportunity to get money , fairly or otherwise is not lost on them.
@ojol_gameing3849
@ojol_gameing3849 6 жыл бұрын
Why im watching this at 1 am i have to work
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 5 жыл бұрын
Papa Joe sendirian berjuang disana. Mungkin dulu di tanah air kita, Papua barat banyak kisah seperti Papa Joe. Jangan biarkan Papa Joe berjuang sendirian. Mari kita majukan Papua Barat! Torang samua basudara!
@junerofeta387
@junerofeta387 4 жыл бұрын
Grew up with "Black Harvest", the preceding documentary to this filmed in the 90's. So very sad to see the difference in Joe's circumstance; it is never easy balancing customary practices with modern demands. I too, struggle with this as a Melanesian Pasifika.
@leeawari2398
@leeawari2398 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for sharing that. We all share similar feelings.
@leannesmith5818
@leannesmith5818 3 жыл бұрын
This country is absolutely beautiful it just needs better leadership
@alanbstard4
@alanbstard4 4 жыл бұрын
As some New Guineans will tell you, they were better off under the Australians. It was better of as an Australian protectorate. The natives could own the businesses with funding and expertise from Australia. If the market collapses, the Aussies would help put. These people cannot handle market economics
@dadikkedude
@dadikkedude 2 жыл бұрын
Why would they?
@alanbstard4
@alanbstard4 2 жыл бұрын
@@dadikkedude No corruption under Australian governorship and good Policing and law services and Australia looked after them fiancially
@roseofsolace
@roseofsolace 2 жыл бұрын
Yet we would have no right to own our lands, just look at Australian’s natives.
@alanbstard4
@alanbstard4 2 жыл бұрын
@@roseofsolace you would own your lands. I was not referring to buying PNG land
@sharonrigs7999
@sharonrigs7999 Жыл бұрын
Most Third World countries were better as colonial possessions
@FMHammyJ
@FMHammyJ 6 жыл бұрын
Sad that tribalism prevents a group from progressing.
@martyr3378
@martyr3378 5 жыл бұрын
SKY CHAD genetics?
@harrypaul7329
@harrypaul7329 5 жыл бұрын
African-Americans should watch this video.In these non white societies tribal war is prevalent.
@atheistcable
@atheistcable 5 жыл бұрын
@@harrypaul7329 I totally agree.
@ericchristopher1667
@ericchristopher1667 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Harry u right, but forgot to add the pink americans need to watch also. Trumpalism seems to be causing tribalism feuding in US; you forgot y'all do it it's called politics.
@harrypaul7329
@harrypaul7329 5 жыл бұрын
@@ericchristopher1667 I am not white nor am I an USA citizen; i visited the USA and spent 2 months. I have a 10 years visa to the USA. It's Obama's agenda that is causing the conflict in the USA. It's Obama's ascendance to the presidency that is causing ethnic turmoil in the USA.
@OGTrollTroll8
@OGTrollTroll8 4 жыл бұрын
“Bigpla diwai pudaun em liklik diwai kam antap”. Truer and strong words.
@coopboulton
@coopboulton 4 жыл бұрын
Ever since I was young I've always had a weird Fascination with Papua New Guinea.
@mayreacts8030
@mayreacts8030 4 жыл бұрын
hey and where are you from? and don't tell me your fascination is only about trubal war coz we are more than that
@coopboulton
@coopboulton 4 жыл бұрын
@@mayreacts8030 Oh god no its much more than that. I love the diversity of Languages. I love the diversity and ecosystems. I think it's so cool how on the coast there are some of the most beautiful tropical rainforest in the world and then you get into the highlands and it's an amazing beautiful temperate ecosystem. The natural beauty of the island is incredible.The animals there are awesome too with tree kangaroos, birds-of-paradise in Sing Sing Dogs The history of the island also fascinates me and something I would love to learn more about. I know that the banana was first domesticated there and they believe that they were the first farmers In a tropical region in the world. I am American and I am also a big student of WW2 and PNG and Bougainville campaigns are definitely another fascinating chapter if that islands history. I am from the southern US and we do pig roasts all the time so I love how that is a big thing in PNG too. I want to visit PNG take part in a sing-sing eat some pork and go bird watching.
@dalton9493
@dalton9493 3 жыл бұрын
Same I love the outfits and the crazy jungle environment they live in
@rubenkolomba4622
@rubenkolomba4622 3 жыл бұрын
Mate you can come visit PNG, and this video was taken in my village. Can take you there, if you can find you way here.
@rubenkolomba4622
@rubenkolomba4622 3 жыл бұрын
If you make it, try the Cultural shows. There’s one in August, it’s called “ Mount Hagen Cultural Show”. Want to know more, hot me up.
@robbieh1899
@robbieh1899 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with PNG...? Corruption & greed. Just like most "things" in life...
@chetmcmasterson
@chetmcmasterson 4 жыл бұрын
I'd also add poverty, which begets desperation, which makes crime and corruption look pretty appealing.
@robbieh1899
@robbieh1899 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Honea True, but, at the heart of this is greed and corruption at the highest levels which then trickles down. I spent many months in PNG and saw ALOT. The corruption has been happening for decades. An incredible country, rich in sooo many ways, yet, being exploited by a handful...as usual....
@robbieh1899
@robbieh1899 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Honea PNG is a VERY tribal country. Its almost 26 nations within one country, each one wanting more & more. A previous Prime Minister of PNG has more property investments in Nthn Australia, than wealthy Aussie's do. How does a PM secure multi million dollar deals on a salary that cannot even pay the interest bills? PNG is riddled with corruption. Its a VERY sad state. All because of greed....
@robbieh1899
@robbieh1899 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Honea The stories I could tell you... The country is VERY tribal. Those in the highlands (incredible coffee and the weed is soooo next level...) think those in southern areas to be sub human. A system known as "Wontok" runs deep (my brother is your brother and your cousin is my cousin...you hurt mine, I kill yours) also. Throw in alcohol abuse (white people been abusing it for centuries...indigenous folk, not so....) and drug abuse. Meth is totally out of control. I have seen guys totally lose their minds after 2 x cans of beer. The fact that I could down 15 bottles and still walk (with 0 anger) had some thinking I was a God (yep, that still happens). PNG is truly one of the greatest countries on Earth. The people (the good one's...) are incredibly hospitable and cant do enough, but, exploitation and corruption has ruined the place.
@robbieh1899
@robbieh1899 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Honea The problems in PNG are many fold. Unemployment and lack of a decent education (in remote communities) are contributing factors. We are talking about people who in some instances are living as though they have escaped time (no electricity, subsistence farming, dirt floors in huts, etc.). A "modern..." world collides with indigenous folk. You either move on or move into jail is how its described to me now by friends still living there (who carry firearms on their person and in cars whilst travelling).
@theresascott8525
@theresascott8525 5 жыл бұрын
4:59......poor guy......my heart broke for him.....through no fault of his own....
@kevinkisekup1596
@kevinkisekup1596 3 жыл бұрын
Naispla na Trupla documentary. Thank you Bob.
@user-teabager
@user-teabager 4 жыл бұрын
That was great thank you
@edbroaotearoa1198
@edbroaotearoa1198 3 жыл бұрын
"I was here filming the fighting until it got too dangerous" wtf
@cooper8515
@cooper8515 3 жыл бұрын
Wdym
@hendrix923
@hendrix923 4 жыл бұрын
I have so much respect for these people, hard life. I wish some private equity could flow into these places to give them some hope and use the land for good.
@Roseredeemed
@Roseredeemed 3 жыл бұрын
You can not just flood in free things into an uneducated society all it does is cause more fighting and stops any of the self productivity.
@CharlieWaki
@CharlieWaki 9 ай бұрын
During the glory days of the plantation I was there as a small boy and my father was a driver of one of Joe's truck. A very beautiful place to live, the memories still fresh in my mind. ❤❤❤
@Zynapse
@Zynapse 4 жыл бұрын
You know why I disliked this video? Because the title is very misleading, it really set off my aralm bell. Papua New Guinea is still very much a tribal society, they have not fully transcended into a country. Therefor "Tribal Conflict Has Devasted Papua New Guinea" is not correct, because this is how it has always been there and will be for many years to come.
@Sleepy_Joe_
@Sleepy_Joe_ Жыл бұрын
mimimimi
@ericfowler8151
@ericfowler8151 6 жыл бұрын
Wakanda without vibranium.
@lenardmalcolm8800
@lenardmalcolm8800 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Fowler LOL!!
@visethreachsothy6952
@visethreachsothy6952 5 жыл бұрын
we’re not talking about black people in general, we’re talking about tribalism
@alanbstard4
@alanbstard4 5 жыл бұрын
tribalism is fine. This is a race problem. they're like this. race is not colour, and black is not a race
@moneytttt1140
@moneytttt1140 5 жыл бұрын
There not black you idiot there aboriginals you CRACK HEAD
@martialkintu2035
@martialkintu2035 5 жыл бұрын
These people aren't Africans.
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 5 жыл бұрын
Papa Joe! Greeting from Indonesia! Hats off and huge respect for you!
@ptk18
@ptk18 Ай бұрын
I saw the original documentary many years ago and never fotgot it and allways wandered what has haapened ever since….So happy to see this one now as well👍👍🇳🇱
@chromeinox
@chromeinox 5 жыл бұрын
"We have met our enemy, and he is us" -someone really smart (not me).
@fjb4932
@fjb4932 4 жыл бұрын
chromeinox Pogo (?) ...
@oldranger649
@oldranger649 3 жыл бұрын
@@fjb4932 yes
@roscoe4092
@roscoe4092 3 жыл бұрын
How sad they blame the guy for being axed when they were the ones who chose to go to war over it and now they treat him like it’s his fault this is so sad I pray for these people to see the truth in their own actions and I pray for good things to come their way and for education
@vinnielalumia
@vinnielalumia Жыл бұрын
U sound ignorant as hell
@motonegros
@motonegros 7 жыл бұрын
Joe is awesome, an old time adventurer and real man.
@tdotjazzberryram61
@tdotjazzberryram61 4 жыл бұрын
So says white zaddy.
@emmanuelleahy250
@emmanuelleahy250 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll let my granddad know😁
@johnlal1413
@johnlal1413 4 жыл бұрын
Too good documentary..thanks!
@rosscobosco
@rosscobosco 3 жыл бұрын
Aw just watched this , amazing, sad. Thanks
@Justthatguy420
@Justthatguy420 4 жыл бұрын
Its just tribal people returning to tribal life
@QaggenStarnah
@QaggenStarnah 6 жыл бұрын
This is sad.
@toko631
@toko631 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a part two? Good true life story..
@chuckycheese432
@chuckycheese432 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work in the fields trimming apricots Graves pairs olive trees. To fix us coffee bean plants cut off the suckers and leave the old branches and trim the suckers off the old branches
@Quincebo
@Quincebo 5 жыл бұрын
14:11 a true hero!
@peterbeyer5755
@peterbeyer5755 5 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how quickly these Papuans can run up and down hills and across rough ground, the Australian Army has attempted to train the Papuan Army but the family, clan and tribal customs and payback customs are just to binding to impose effective military discipline. They just cannot agree to disagree but still work for the common good if they did it could be one of the best countries in the world.
@naturaljustice7702
@naturaljustice7702 Ай бұрын
Thank you for allowing outsiders to peek into another time. The thing which caught my attention is the degree of confusion in terms of what the issues are. In the ideal world we would take care of each other. In the real world its a case of who is able to exploit the other. Almost everything is against Papua New Guinea. Beginning with name New Guinea. For goodness sake 'Guinea' is a Portuguese word. Poor old Joe. He wouldn't easily see what happened. He wasn't a failure. He was too successful. The big players obviously weren't happy to see an independent starter in a place with so much potential. All the indigenous people of Papua deserve to be protected. It ought to be easy. Leave them alone.
@enganatorutube9307
@enganatorutube9307 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful 👌
@dunruden9720
@dunruden9720 5 жыл бұрын
Australia subsidises PNG to the tune of around $AUS5.5 million per annum to buy Lamborghinis for visiting foreign dignitaries to drive around in. If Australia cut off the dosh, we all know who's waiting in the wings to fill the gap!! I visited Mt Hagen just after independence. It appears to have gone backwards since then.
@madbadmeerkat4287
@madbadmeerkat4287 7 жыл бұрын
4:11 "Now we must makee 800 000" And that's what holds so many traditional societies back right there, very similar to the bantu groups of southern Africa, their not big fans of letting individuals go out and make something of themselves for themselves only., it kills allot of innovation and initiative
@jimihendrixx11
@jimihendrixx11 6 жыл бұрын
MadBad Meerkat No I think he was referring to his own fair share.
@ryansmith7834
@ryansmith7834 6 жыл бұрын
Amen. When I saw that part I just thought "Wow, they sound exactly like these entitled "gibs me dat" welfare people in the USA and Europe. It's disgusting, thinking they are owed something when they did nothing for it.
@crpth1
@crpth1 5 жыл бұрын
​@@SilverfoxJB- In Nigeria the site where I worked was under siege for a few months. Because of tribal demands for ransom... Long before that episode, among other things, a brand new electrical network was offered, free of charge, either for installation or use/consumption. In the day of the inauguration, turn switch to ON. Surprise, surprise. Nothing works!! Local tribal chief stole the connectors and try to "sell" them back to us! Fuck_ng stupid it was theirs totally free, gratis, no charge and they where trying to get a ransom for it! As amazing as this might seem there´s so many more stories that most in any civilized place wouldn¨t imagine. Cheers
@SilverfoxJB
@SilverfoxJB 5 жыл бұрын
@Vaughn reed jr yeah, we white people have always suffered due to our laziness. It's amazing how we managed to conquer the world just by sitting on our asses and to have time for all the major inventions in the 20th century. While those hard working chaps in Africa can't even manage to lay a fucking road or dig a well.
@Tiger-lg5of
@Tiger-lg5of 5 жыл бұрын
Bang on the money, they think just like blacks in Africa, feel entitlement to take and steal a white mans hard work.
@miekkb
@miekkb 4 жыл бұрын
@23:48 and again I'm broke into tears, after that teacher did
@judassss
@judassss 3 жыл бұрын
amazing!!!
@farouqomaro598
@farouqomaro598 4 жыл бұрын
They fight so much Joe should think about opening an MMA fight-to-death club instead of growing coffee. People would be happy and Joe would be rich again 😂
@tritchie6272
@tritchie6272 6 жыл бұрын
So one guy built everything up through hard work and intelligence,then others in a jealous rage destroyed it. The phrase cut off your nose to spite your face comes to mind. As for being self sufficient,I really don't see that kind of destruction as being self sufficient. When they are growing their food and tending to their families without attacking others in a fit of jealous rage,that's when they are being self sufficient.
@monkeyseemonkeydo432
@monkeyseemonkeydo432 6 жыл бұрын
T Ritchie It wasn’t a jealous rage ....it was because one tribe simply attacked another man and it was revenge rage
@novabigstar1509
@novabigstar1509 5 жыл бұрын
No the tribe did all the work of planting and picking at this coffee plantation and were not making a good wage because coffee prices plummeted the first year they had a proper crop and then the war started. The dismal coffee market had a lot to do with the rage the people felt and Joe had a 60% to 40% split with the ENTIRE tribe working the fields. The financial banks were relentless too on Joe because of a huge loan so everyone involved got stuck in a quagmire. It is a sad story of greed that stretches back to colonialism. The whites always tried to take advantage of the tribal workers from the beginning. They paid them in shells and iron axe heads for the first decade or so when they were mining GOLD instead of giving them proper REAL money and literally stole their wealth. Joe at least was trying to pay them but even he took advantage some of the situation. A sad story..
@colonelfustercluck486
@colonelfustercluck486 Ай бұрын
that is the inevitable conclusion of any enterprise up there, you try to generate money, someone gets jealous... and it's all over. Happens every time.
@bennyjetsaroundtheworld9047
@bennyjetsaroundtheworld9047 3 жыл бұрын
This is a amazing story and amazing film
@IkkeBareAnders
@IkkeBareAnders 4 жыл бұрын
Best documentary!
@rioalbert23
@rioalbert23 6 жыл бұрын
Sad, but it is the reality people face in PNG. The absence of Govt, and their corruption has lead this country to the situation we see here in this video. Small minded people and wrong interpretation of custom values hold the development, investor also think thousand times before they work here. Joe and his family was actually the best way out they could get. Instead of having better life in Australia, Joe stay with them. But in the past people easily provocated by another stupid people, and looks like nothing actually change since then.. Sad..
@davidhirschv7903
@davidhirschv7903 5 жыл бұрын
WOW, I see this a whole other way in which tribes are important and the governments have ruined everything. You want true freedom? They have it and they have a purpose to live unlike the government coming in and saving the day while also ruining their way of life. Seems like you do not have a connection with your ancestors. If they were still hunters and gatherers, there may also be less war. Did you know that class warfare and slavery came after agriculture and civilizations formed? Try and connect what that means.
@stephenrichardson9596
@stephenrichardson9596 4 жыл бұрын
I went to visit my uncle and aunty in PNG in about 1974. My cousin who was about 5 when i went there was never able to keep a kitten for long the locals used to steal them and cook them up. I also read where two Highlanders got convicted for digging up a body and using it to make soup. It made the paper there when I was there. They had one set of lights in Port Morsby and a Highlander dressed in his tribal wear used to wave his stick at the lights thinking he had the power to change the lights. No doubt nearly 50 years on is more civilised. I remember lot of locals had red teeth from chewing on the beetle nut. Great holiday and plenty more stories I am remembering now :)
@surfallday6583
@surfallday6583 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Insightful.
@paulfitton8276
@paulfitton8276 4 жыл бұрын
Business turns them into,fringe dwellers..tribal life has it's own richness & balance...respect"
@Hannah-tg8hw
@Hannah-tg8hw 2 жыл бұрын
What a good son Jim is.
@Goffas_and_gumpys
@Goffas_and_gumpys 4 жыл бұрын
PNG, beautiful place and beautiful people. I loved everytime I was there, BUT it's a crazy ples. LOL.
@lioneljoseduterte4847
@lioneljoseduterte4847 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the guy who got axed spoke good english.
@delusionalemon
@delusionalemon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we speak English here in Papua New Guinea
@jcolecolman781
@jcolecolman781 4 жыл бұрын
I love him teaching u educate the people soon they will be able to start their own economy growth hold on people we were brought here as slaves l can't describe what we went through this guy talking about him making millions
@philliplyn2692
@philliplyn2692 5 жыл бұрын
Loving this one thanks for sharing very important information giving thanks blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work
@raybeaulieu6187
@raybeaulieu6187 5 жыл бұрын
There's much more to this story than we are being shown. My first question is why that man was so brutally attacked? Did he do something to cause the attack? Why would his tribe go to war over this and then blame him for the war. He must have done something wrong is my guess.
@jenjen.rutherford8559
@jenjen.rutherford8559 5 жыл бұрын
Greed
@roseofsolace
@roseofsolace 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@MichalKunst
@MichalKunst 5 жыл бұрын
I guess you need some armed security to run business in such place.
@emmanuelleahy250
@emmanuelleahy250 3 жыл бұрын
Yessir, especially dogs they’ll work harder
@kamnglnd.5030
@kamnglnd.5030 3 жыл бұрын
Good documentary
@moreenkasu2925
@moreenkasu2925 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the correction Mr " Leahy. "
@jamiealexandrino3025
@jamiealexandrino3025 5 жыл бұрын
Poor People!
@mateuslira3411
@mateuslira3411 4 жыл бұрын
I think war is inherent tô human, no matter The levei of civilization
@tontwolfwolf4101
@tontwolfwolf4101 4 жыл бұрын
I watched the original documentary while at uni 10 years back. Never thought KZfaq would recommend me “25 years later” update of the original doco lol
@tontwolfwolf4101
@tontwolfwolf4101 4 жыл бұрын
Mickaël 34 I believe it’s called “Black Harvest” (1992) by Bob Connolly and Robin Anderson
@lukesakail9101
@lukesakail9101 Жыл бұрын
It is custom and law bilong ples..as said..the living memory.. Papa go daun em pikini blo em bai kisim ples ...LOVE JUST THIS PART❤❤❤ AMAZING and a good Living Memory..🙏
@jeanettewaverly2590
@jeanettewaverly2590 7 жыл бұрын
I love to listen to that pidgin!
@crombok8981
@crombok8981 6 жыл бұрын
The reporter didn't mention that the tribal fight started because of the coffee plantation. The tribes fought themselves. The only reason the plantation was destroyed was because it was situated in the war zone. The destruction to properties was caused by enemies of the tribe that gave land to the plantation owner who live "all around the plantation". This comment if for those that understood the video at face value without understanding the culture of the locals and have commented like experts way below.
@nicolarollinson4381
@nicolarollinson4381 5 жыл бұрын
I love it too. I speak pidgin indonesian. I know quite a bit of bhs Indonesian but not quite enough. Me and my friends understand each other, we hobble along together 😁
@carlsenden8750
@carlsenden8750 4 жыл бұрын
Mi laikim lainim Tok Pisin. Em numbawan.
@D4KINE808
@D4KINE808 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Black you sound stupid
@rayelpingi7982
@rayelpingi7982 4 жыл бұрын
@Michael Black Yep, just stupid in your own special way. No one can relate to your stupidity. Have fun!!
@poppa_Sicarii_Sin_City
@poppa_Sicarii_Sin_City 3 жыл бұрын
LET A STRANGER COME AND LAY WITH A NATIVE WOMAN NOW HIS SON CONTROLS EVERYTHING ALL THIS BEHIND A HEATHEN 😏💯
@mr.wizard6891
@mr.wizard6891 2 жыл бұрын
The documentary guy looks like a real life peter griffin
@moreenkasu2925
@moreenkasu2925 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy that's your family and ancestral land. Hang on to it!!!!!
@radithramadhan8488
@radithramadhan8488 3 жыл бұрын
Indonesian side is better like 1000 times
@mfhoss9570
@mfhoss9570 5 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that there aren’t any racist comments And that makes me happy
@mfhoss9570
@mfhoss9570 5 жыл бұрын
e Jones what
@mikehagan4320
@mikehagan4320 4 жыл бұрын
You brought it up!
@waragainstmyself1159
@waragainstmyself1159 4 жыл бұрын
13%=52%
@jonbush7467
@jonbush7467 4 жыл бұрын
Until you. LOL!
@mfhoss9570
@mfhoss9570 4 жыл бұрын
jon bush until me? i’m glad that there’s no racist comments i’m saying it’s a good thing that nobody was racist
@jaywalker4097
@jaywalker4097 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is ACTION yo!
@hariadisaptono5873
@hariadisaptono5873 4 жыл бұрын
This was the bloody sorrow of "tragic flaw of tribal law"...the bush came back to be the bush..
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