afterlife

You skipped over all the medical issues his son listed he have and the enternity of suffering waiting for him

@Rosa Lia so what happens if you kill, repent, then kill again and repent again ect.

not normal or healthy LMAO. he had lots of medical issues and had to deal with a lot of stuff. but yes, he did reach 90.

@@jacco1006 unfortunately the afterlife is a made up concept

I've literally just seem that part in a documentary which brought me here...that was powerful viewing

I think the prisoners was helping nazis too. Thats why they have so much guilt on their shoulders, that they want to blame others. How else would they survive from death camps?

@@paskanaamiott No doubt. Most camps ran themselves with all the kapos. SS didn't have to show up for weeks.

@@paskanaamiott good point. Some survivors may have been involved in some way. They were kept alive due to some function they performed.

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@Phil 502 So is it predetermined or not??

trails last a long time, you just don't know

@Alex Kroeger Like men.

@Alex Kroeger more like guilty until proven innocent

@@83_cresstine he was guilty he was not in treblinka he was in another camp murdering innocents

Steve Arizona they had significant evidence you arse. 🙄 America is now the Nazi Germany of the Modern world because of morons like you!

@@milabenmimon8547 The Israeli Supreme Court concluded that you are full of shit and acquitted him. You don't know what Nazism is, arsehole.

Well said Steve...

@@milabenmimon8547 fuck you this place has become a communist hell hole america is the new nazis you are a joke

@@stevearizona521 And the german court determined he was a death camp guard that tortured and murdered 29,000 Jews.

I would suggest that u not be so self righteous. This govt. Will be persecuting Christians someday

Does this include yourself? This is a sincere question.

I don't think he had much choice, but I agree way TOO MANY Nazis, SS, guards got away with such atrocities.

by some logic, EVERY German soldier was complicit should we have prosecuted EVERY single member of the German army?

You would also have been a Nazi, Mr virtue signal.

Would you follow orders if it depended on your (family‘s) life? If you responded with yes, then you are a perfect example of a god damn hypocrite.

You don't think he had much choice every person who joined the Nazi party had a choice whether the life was in danger or not for not accepting being in it that was their choice to join they could have chosen not to and if their life was taken then so be it they would die a hero but lots of them did not choose this they chose to take part and murder because they were born evil

When someone beats you shoots your friends and family you ne er forget

Doesn't matter how long ago you were abused by somebody you'll always remember that person's face because you always look at that person's face and keep their face in your memory because one day everyone who is being beat and abused and stuff having their mind that they're going to get the person back I know this because I was abused all my life and for a long time I had in my head that I wanted to go find my adopted parents and beat the crap out of them when I got older after they beat me abused me sexually assaulted me used me as a slave and then threw me on the streets of New York City and went back to live in Pennsylvania but I never did anything like that because I'm not like that but I've had the thoughts of that everybody does who gets abused and they have the ability to remember faces very thoroughly

You presume to know a great deal about daily life in the camps. Guards were seen up close & personal. Officers etc would have been at a distance, outside the fences, rarely if ever seen at the business end of the killing. Guards weren't up in towers or on the other side of the fences you absolute waste of molecules. They were the ones who did the dirty work.

I have similar doubts. Common law Courts recognise that memory is a tricky thing. Memory is not like computer file with bytes. It can evolve and change over time.

Two wrongs don't make a right !!

@Amanush Azad if wanted to leave he would most likely face punishment or death

And of course it really doesn't matter if it's the right guy or not ,, someone has to pay ,, fuck off you ignorant asshole !!

lyn Lynn I don’t feel anything but anger. I’d hang him for yous if you need a hangman. But I need to know 110% it was him. And I’m not Jewish.

@@DaveV173 piss off liberal

@@asherdog9248 that john means ivan with tattoo under arm and mother's maiden name marchenko and parish members who knew but kept silent is guilty

that does not make in guilty of the charges,

Damn I need to start talking to my coworkers and have lunch with them or I’ll be suspected of something 40 years from now.

At this point, we should just leave this in the past, most of these trials are not about justice, they seem more like revenge then fairness.

@@l04d83it is about justice

@@Chuked Justice for who exactly?

It’s still happening! The elite getting away with anything!

They could have been in fear of speaking out. Their lives may have been jeopardy to do so. Go along to get along.

Jews have been mistreated and pogroms committed on them for centuries..infact most of it was under Christian world. Under muslim empires they generally lived freely due to them being people of the book

95% of them didn't think it was ok. And you'd be a Nazi too.

He was 18 at the end of the war so the propaganda started when he was about 8.

I'm pretty sure a lot of cruel people in the camp system picked up the name "Ivan the Terrible" too. Either way this POS was involved up to his neck.

He was to be jailed in Germany as Ivan because his papers proved it but died in the process so its no longer valid then by german law

I'm pretty sure it wasn't him. Memories aren't stable, they rearrange every few seconds in our brains. Some memories are altered either by our imagination or other memories. The witnesses probably recognise certain features of his face to that of the real Ivan that their memory altered the real Ivan the terribles eye colour from brown to blue, especially when under pressure and anger. That's why witness testimonies are not reliable in today's courts.

bigboyrichie Two IVAN the Terribles, one at Teblinka, another at Sobibor. Ivan a common Ukraine Ian name.....son admitted his father was a guard there....

@@lindabowman2139 that's your imagination

You realize he had to serve. and where they assigned him, as camp guard he could not control.

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@Транс Аэро ? I'm not drunk

The "poor" man was a guard of trawniki in the Death Camp Sobibor.

@@kngkzg3770 I would rather guard a concentration camp then getting sent to the eastern front these guys probably didn't have a choice

@@mumberto3557 believe me i'm german I was dealing much with this theme and it's a fact that the SS and the Trawniki were volunteers. They havent been forced.

@@kngkzg3770 oh yeah thanks for the correction I forgot about the ss psychos

Yeah and he never got one apology from his accusers

@@eiresaoirse3258 Courts don't issue apologies that often. People get found not guilty every day and they don't get apologies.

@Pauline Gregory Depends, after all people cleared here cannot sue for wrongful arrest or the Police would never be out of the courts. As long as the CPS say there is a realistic prospect of conviction - over 50% - then the prosecution is legitimate even if someone is found not guilty. I can't see the Israeli powers being too open to allowing someone to sue them.

It was him.. he never denied being at Sobibor

@Pauline Gregory Well he can only sue in Israel if it is against Israeli law. Just think, in some American states you can be jailed for decades and then released after the conviction is declared unsafe and you have no right to sue for a single penny. . Everyone who is arrested and help on bail has been deprived of their liberty and they have no right to any compensation in this country, do they? Just think, people are often held on bail, lose their job and home, are found not guilty in court and then released. Want to take a guess at how much they are entitled to for being deprived of their liberty? Zero, nothing, not a penny. Just as an aside, do you think that everyone that is arrested, charged, prosecuted and is found not guilty has had the case against them falsified? I would suggest that as this guy was found not guilty in a court of law then due process has been followed unless, you think that they go to all this bother just to let him go?

Yeah XD

"You won't catch me alive."

@@bachokiro2866 hope it was worth the money spent to rob a man already out of the door.

@@brotherhoodz97 xd

If it was your family that was murdered, would it be so humorous. I think it’s quite sad and hurtful

So many got away because Adenauer had a government that honored Nazis. Judges in the 40s were Nazis who in the 50s judged Germany’s Nazis. Also the Vatican helped plenty

@@achord9204 Yes, you're right. Thanks for that.

He eventually did get convicted and hung

Yes, it's a second holocaust that they got away with it

He died before the final verdict

if your sending 90 year old men to jail, your no better than the nazis

The music box - Jessica Lang

Yeah it was a very good documentary

That's how lot of WW2 veterans felt against the Japanese. Look up Japanese war crimes.

Death camp survivor

it was in treblinka and sobibor was the name of the camp

Eric Burton he Is dead

Shouldn't @ all cause its not even the right man. Clearly don't look into shit hey

Why the smile on his face?

@@olgagurrola3152 Perhaps he's just a weirdo...

Perhaps he was trying too hard to look innocent

I hope you never get called for jury duty if this is the cock and bull way you view these matters.

@@rapier1954 I read people's body language & mannerisms. If you don't, then you're 50% blind to the world...

Watch God on Trial

WhIch Netflix series are you watching? About WW2?

It has only been 10 years and I have forgotten the face of my abuser. A person I had to see every day for years. When I saw that person about 8 years later I had trouble identifying them. They wanted him to be Ivan so that he could be punished and the more they saw him the more they started to use his face when thinking about Ivan. He probably looked like Ivan but that does not mean that this is him.

@@PhoenixGameMovies well u got stupid memory

@@2wayslasher711 actually memory is a funny thing look up some memory studies done

aaawwww poor people killer had a family. pathetic.

For perspective, search for this documentary made by a )ew, *archive+TheTruthBehindTheGatesOfAuschwitzByDavidCole*

Theknow All yeah yeah. We know you hate jews. Grow up already.

@@jeffangel1984 The recommended video is made by an honest )ew, do you hate honest )ews? Grow up.

@@jeffangel1984 For perspective, view the video, *Jewish Man Exposes Israel's Lies* (oCKWDarNdGw)

My god, you're dense aren't you?

The DCG he killed my family so no.

@@air2091 Good for you.

The DCG why is that good for me? My family is ducking dead! You have no right to decide the nazis fate

@@air2091 Nice.

idiot

George Masterman good job mate, how long did it take you to think of that one? One hour? Maybe two? Or maybe a day, considering you couldn’t figure out this head scratcher.

Not one German leader ever apologized to this evil which they committed the entire nation is responsible, and God's judgment in now at the doors of every single house in Germany, what ever you did decades back will the same way return to you and it has already started, you will never be forgiven.

@@peterpadling8276 worry about your own judgement day Peter, you might be paddling your own way to heaven yet dude. Plus don't forget there are Christians in Germany as well. Do you damn them too? Be very careful what you wish for. We are all sinners.

Omg all children, babies, old woman, old men ??? Those justice seekers are idiotic

Aren't you full of sh i t. He was the wrong guy.

Those so called survivors need to milk money and fame from all such things and allied forces need to make a bad person whom they defeated so that they can justify there own crimes

God this God that, breaking news God doesn't really care a lot at all on how you live your life, all he cares is that you do something interesting with it.

@@sahil.dahiya The fuhrer called YOU to the SS!!! Why did you not join him? Coward.

@@sahil.dahiya you have no idea what you’re talking about

The lonely mountain. Nope, all Ivan the great did was doing his job like any other soldiers during the war. Israel have been killing Palestinians, take over their lands and putting them in jail since 1948 and no one want to talk about it.

@@boss0800 my country gives aid to Palestine when it can, this man was a butcher.

Worrawit Dulyavitya “just following orders” is not a just defense. That is solidified in the UN and WCC.

@@boss0800 What an idiot lol, by your stupid twisted logic i can say the same for Israel - "They are just following orders" so if Ivan did not do anything so did Israel :) See how complicity stupid your argument is? How can you compare industrialized genocide to the Israel Palastne problem which is a very basic issue compared to WW2 crimes of Japan Stalin and Hitler. Off yourself before your stupid brain hurts someone

@@boss0800 You think that a volunteer death camp guard is more innocent than an idf soldier protecting his people? Especially when Hamas has no interest in deescalation? Plain and simple, what you posted is anti Semitic.

He’s vile!

People like you are worse than the fucking nazis you don't even realize your behavior just like them not every nazis had a choice to do what they did.

thank you join my site i made it today this propaganda is sickening

Shane Owen there were many eye witnesses

Sheila yeah one of eye witness said he went to Florida by train. And another even forgot his son’s name who died there in camp.

@@sheila6479 links to actual actual statements under oath?

Tahir Iqbal Eye witnesses aren’t reliable. Oh, and he forgets his sons name? Yeah right. I doubt his so called son even existed.

German government has excellent records on some cases but memories of victims deteriorate with passage of time. But being a guard at a death camp is an accomplice if not actual the actual executioner. He is dead now anyway, so may his soul and those of his Sobibor inmates all rest in God’s ultimate judgement - heaven or hell.

Because they are NOT human.

@@beautifulone5509 they are tho

What are they going to do? Go thru all the bodies buried and count them? Plus journalists may have been sloppy in their reporting of the figures. Millions of people of all races were scattered all across Europe, from UK to Russia. No trains, no food, no money, no (or very little) government assistance, the highways and tracks were bombed not of use. Only a bicycle was really useful - where to get one?

It seems like the allies don't want people to know about atrocities they themselves commited, and want to paint themselves as freedom fighters, every human being has blood on their hands, also, in the eyes of many, if your a Wehrmacht veteran, you are satan himself, making them suffer as you suffered makes you no better than them.

that is the zionists

@@christophercook723 Shouldn't "Do you mean full stop ignorant Yankee" have a question mark at the end? My grammar is far from perfect but, correcting the grammar of another contributor is always a risk. Please feel free to point out any errors I have made, I'll take them as a valuable learning experience.

@@christophercook723 Or it can be a simple error. I'm puzzled that you say you cannot control the self correct function. You are correct, females have period but, that is not the only use of the word, is it? Unless you think I have 2 full stops of PE when I was at school? Maybe you think that the Jurassic full stop existed? Words can be used, correctly, in various ways. To Yanks, they are periods and as it is their language to use as American English then you correcting them makes you look a bit of a fool.

@@christophercook723 Doesn't matter, it's their use of language. You might not like it but, it is correct. At least the poster has managed to work out how to use the backspace button to correct their mistakes..........Blaming the computer, oh my.

@@christophercook723 You can still correct the self correct function. It's no different from typing.

@Nihar Bendre that is not evidence then

@Nihar Bendre how is that even an evidence then? There is no such thing as claimed evidence there either is one to support a claim or there isn't

>The Devil Yeah, sounds bias and probably filled with misinformation

@@autrimps why would it be biased?

@@liamsomeone6333 it's netflix for god sake it's always biased

@@autrimps But It's really fucking good and doesn't even sound biased to me, seriously you need to check it out 10/10

It‘s interesting to me, that so many people beleive so deeply that there is a hell and you will be going there if you did wrong. The reality as I believe is, that there is just nothing after life. You can only pay during life.

If god can’t protect children against priests who have committed crimes against them then why should we believe he is real? And why would god allow millions to suffer under the nazis?

Then why don't you just remove prisons then? The god will take care of them right?

He was born in 1920. Watch the Netflix docu-series. It's fascinating.

Goes both ways. If it’s the wrong guy then he had to become the conduit for Holocaust hate and pain and have his name tarnished for decades before and after his death.

Wish they would do the same about slavery , instead of wanting to forget and sweep under the carpet

@@tonycaribbianno one alive today owned slaves dipshit.

Samuel Slagter I do too! I would be mortified and totally disgusted with my family and myself if I ever found that out about my grandparents 😫😩

@@croatianwarmaster7872 well they are now ruining america

You got my vote

wait what do you mean by that

@@sonicx254shere3 What I mean is all too many young people haven't a clue about history. A guy I work with doesn't know what our civil war was over, I was amazed. I asked him what he knew about WWII and he was clueless about that as well! This guy didn't even know what country attacked Pearl harbor. The Manhattan project and Operation Paper Clip? The majority of young folks working with me are stumped! I'm saddened by this as history will repeat itself again with the lack of interest in the topic.

@@MrKitty-zv3dl Oh damn, thats actually pretty shocking, thanks for elaborating on the comment btw! appreciate it!! In my opinion, i think people just dont seem to care about history as a whole, some of this can be attributed to the fact that the subject is in all fairness not taught very well and involves just mind numbing memorizing and such, i.e: the subject needs to be taught in a different way, not how you teach lets say chemistry for example, it needs to focus on the different aspects and perspectives and stuff like that rather than just learning history so as to pass an exam just to forget it later. I also think that this can be attributed to the fact that, people just find it to be bland and develop a certain kind of distaste for it, most people i know think of history this way: why do we have to learn about something that has already happened, learning about it cant change the past right? But in my opinion, as you mentioned in your comment, this just increases general awareness about mass human behavior, to prevent catastrophes like the 2nd world war from repeating themselves. To conclude, i think you re absolutely right and people need to not only understand history in whatever way(not just as means to pass an arbitrary exam) but also they need to know why they re learning it Because in the end, isnt history just a huge large scale system of sorts, with many small variables(humans) interacting with each other, and each having a different kind of impact on the entire system. In other words, its just like a net total of multiple differently weighted variables(by differently weighted i kinda mean how lets say a ruler or dictator has more power to impact the world than an ordinary infantryman or soldier) and their impact on the world. Thus i find it fascinating, and treat it like recorded data of an organic system of humans, and it really shows how humans are terrible yet great beings at the same time! Super sorry for the essay!!! i dont really know why i typed this much out, and half of it is prolly mumbo jumbo, and you dont need to read all of this, or any of this, idk what came over me, i just did! UwU have a great day and umm p.s: love your profile picture!

@@sonicx254shere3 Your interest and passion for history gives me hope. I read, agreed and respect everything you wrote. The profile pic was my favorite pet cat, still miss him dearly. Take care, enjoy the holidays!

@@MrKitty-zv3dl Oh wow thank you so much Mr. Kitty and happy holidays to you too! I'm terribly sorry to hear about your cat, may he rest in peace! This is a super honorable way to remember him :DD

or Communist war crimes. Seems like no Communists have ever been chased around the globe and tried for war crimes. I wonder why that is.

Three years later: No answers. That is in itself an answer.