Thanks a bunch :)

how did you run it? there's no .exe file in the folder for me.

@@starbwoyboominvgk4881 Your computer probably thinks its malware and deletes it when you extract it

Thanks! It's on my radar, but not a high priority compared to a game prototype and some videos I have planned. I was thinking that if I do make a GUI, it'll probably be a separate application that interacts with JoyShockMapper. In fact there's no reason someone else couldn't do it, since it's easy to send commands to a simple application like JSM :)

@@JibbSmartGD does it only work for Ps4 joysticks and stitch not for xbox 360 like Generic Gamepad?? Hope u reply ...i need to play valorant bro

@@tamilcomicsgaming4968 Xbox controllers don't have any sort of Gyro functionality, unfortunately

Hey! That's really interesting. I'm glad you're enjoying it! 1. Using Steam alongside JoyShockMapper -- great idea! That totally makes sense. Steam is super useful for setting up mappings and stuff, and having JoyShockMapper just for the features it doesn't have makes sense. 2. Switch Pro Controller via USB -- that's an interesting one. Normally when plugged in, the Pro Controller still communicates via Bluetooth and just charges by USB (even on Switch!). But Switch has the option to tell the controller to communicate by USB, and I guess Steam can do that too? I should look into that. And you're saying that once Steam has connected to the Pro Controller by USB, JoyShockMapper works with it? Because that's really handy! I remember trying to get it working over USB and failing, but the code's still in there.

Yep! Latest versions should have an example in the on_reset or on_startup text files, if I remember right

At the moment JSM doesn't provide any way to do different things with the gyros from each Joy-Con, except to ignore one and do mouse-movement with the other. So you could probably do it with another program like you describe, but you wouldn't be able to have gyro aiming work at the same time.

it worked for the first few times but then suddenly I have the same problem. Did anyone manage to find a fix for it?

I don't have access to a DualShock 3 or Sixaxis myself. Some online resources seem to indicate that it actually only output gyro in one axis. If that's the case, it wouldn't be capable of the kind of precision and responsiveness seen here. I'd be interested to one day get one and investigate it further myself

Any level of functionality is better than none, frankly, but I would love to see some potential use out of the Sixaxis, if anything. But if all else fails, the inevitable upgrade to DS4 or other gyro controller would be the best bet.

One reason for this could be that you're running games in admin mode, in which case JoyShockMapper would need to be running in admin mode as well

Hi David! Thanks for the kind words :) Did JSM say it had any devices connected? You said the mouse was moving even when the controller wasn't moving (that's normal when it's not calibrated) -- does the mouse move in response to turning the controller as well? My first guess is to try running JSM as admin if you aren't already doing that. If you are already doing that, try running it not as admin. My guess is that Halo is running at a different level to JSM. By the way, to calibrate, just put the controller down and press and hold the HOME or CAPTURE button for a second. That should stop the mouse moving when the contoller isn't moving. Yeah, it's a real shame that Xbox Series X looks to also have no gyro. As for why don't developers make gyro standard, my guess is they don't realise the potential it brings, and they feel that the controls we've already had for close to twenty years are good enough. We've just gotta keep telling people about gyro controls, showing what's possible, and eventually it should be embraced :) That's my hope, anyway!

@@JibbSmartGD Thanks for your quick reply! After taking your advice running with/without admin mode, it magically worked for me! I can use the Switch controller as a mouse in Windows now. However, when I boot up Halo Master Chielf Collection, the Switch contoller no longer works, neither in full screen or window mode. (I did change the "mouse sensitivity" to 1.6 to match the config) I think I am close! I will try Warface on steam after downloading the update to test some more. Cheers.

Warface on Steem works perfectly!! Flick stick will take some time getting used to though haha. Halo Reach, unfortunately still doesn't work for some reason...

@@davidwong4350 Glad to hear Warface is working! I'm sorry with/without admin mode didn't fix Halo for you. That's really weird. It worked fine for me a few months ago, but I don't have it installed anymore to try it out. Do you know if other tools like Steam Input or reWASD work with Halo?

@@JibbSmartGD Yes, I just tried reWASD yesterday on Halo. It actually worked but the Gryo felt really off. JSM's gyro movement was very intuitive just like on Nintendo Switch's Warface. Using reWASD, however, for horizontal movement, I had to tilt the controller like I am flying an airplane. Vertical movement was good though. I will try again later!

I made it myself. Still working on it for a public release some time.

Hi! You're welcome :) I love gyro, too! The 3D controller overlay is not part of JoyShockMapper, I'm afraid. It's something I've made to help with videos, but it's kinda hacky and not useful for other people yet. To have gyro only enabled while the left trigger is pressed down, add this command to your config (or just enter it straight into JSM): GYRO_ON = ZL GYRO_ON will override any previous GYRO_OFF setting, and vice versa. ZL is the name of the left trigger in JSM, because that's what Switch controllers call it. Let me know if you have any more questions :)

@@JibbSmartGD But it is really awesome even if not actually completed and user-friendly. Waiting for this thing, if you manage to make it public !

Hi Justin! At the moment there's no way to set up axial deadzones for flick stick. But I see the value in the idea and will look into adding it. Same with smoothing rotation of the stick -- no options for it yet, but since it already does a tiny bit of smoothing internally (more for the DualShock 4 since its stick data is much lower resolution), it should be a simple thing for me to add manual control over the smoothing. Thanks for the feedback :)

I've just uploaded version 1.5, which adds snapping to cardinal and intercardinal directions as an option, as well as the option to adjust the smoothing threshold for rotations to add a little bit of smoothing if you want.

Hmm... Usually when this happens, someone is already using BetterJoy or something similar, which hides the Joy-Cons from other programs. You might have to whitelist JoyShockMapper

@@JibbSmartGD I have attempted to use WHITELIST_ADD to do as you suggested, and I have ensured that betterjoy is not open and running while attempting to use joyshockmapper. Still no luck. Windows says both joycons are connected in Bluetooth, but the only program that recognizes there existence is betterjoy. These joycons are official Nintendo controllers. Is there anything I should look at that might help determine what the problem is?

I have connected them. I needed to connect one to the program at a time. For some reason both at the same time did not work, but I turned one off and RECONNECTED_CONTROLLERS, and the one remaining successfully connected. Then I turned the other back on, and now both seem to be functioning properly. Thanks for your speedy assistance.

It's called JoyShockOverlay. I haven't got it ready for release yet, but I'm working on it. Hard to balance my free time with other stuff (JoyShockMapper improvements, etc)

It's my own overlay that appears live on my screen. There's no public version yet

Hi! Gyro sensitivity is set using GYRO_SENS or MIN_GYRO_SENS / MAX_GYRO_SENS. See _3Dmouse.txt in the GyroConfigs folder for an example. All my configs also load up this config so I can change my sensitivity in one place and it'll be the same in every game. This sensitivity is on the natural sensitivity scale. So a sensitivity of 1 means turning the controller in real life will turn the camera the same amount. A sensitivity of 2 means the in game camera will turn twice as fast as the controller, and so on.

@@JibbSmartGD I see. I'll experiment with it to see if I can find the sweet spot. Thanks for the help! :)

No problem :)

JoyShockMapper can't send separate gyro input to different players, because all controllers get treated as a generic mouse. But if a game properly supported gyro controls and split-screen, that'd be awesome!

Xbox controllers don't have gyro sensors, so unfortunately it doesn't work

I haven't tested it with any third-party controllers. If I had any, I don't think it'd be hard to add support, though. And I've heard people have had success with some, but I don't know which

Hi, thanks for reaching out! That's very unusual, but not completely unheard of. What happens if you start it without controllers connected, then connect your controllers, then try the command RECONNECT_CONTROLLERS?

@@JibbSmartGD I tried that and the controller did connect! I also noticed you uploaded version 1.6.1 with usb support for the controller, previously I was trying to connect it that way which explains many of my errors. So far it is working great! I've got to do some fine tuning, the initial settings sent the mouse into the lower right hand corner of the screen without moving the controller. I'll try and upload a new config for Civ VI to your wiki! Thanks for the help!

It's my own program called JoyShockOverlay, and it's not ready for others to use yet

well they emulate the same mouse so no i assume you could do one gyro and one normal controler

As Imply said, there's just no way to separate the gyro-mouse from the real mouse. I think there might be a few games out there that let you choose a different device for different players. This might work, but because JSM isn't identifying as a connected device, there may not be a way to isolate it to one player. I would LOVE to see this implemented in games. I can't wait to one day play split-screen gyro + flick stick!

@@JibbSmartGD Use virtual machines?

It doesn't officially support 3rd party controllers, but a lot (not all) work just the same as 1st party controllers. I think there are a few people using 8bitdo sn30 pro plus (or similar) with JSM

@@JibbSmartGD thank you for your response sir

That's not part of JoyShockMapper. That's something else I'm working on that's not finished yet, called JoyShockOverlay.

Wait, what? They did it? This is the first I'm hearing about it! I'll look into it :)

It could be that you are running your games in admin mode, in which case JoyShockMapper would also need to be run in admin mode. Or it could be that you're only playing games that badly handle combined controller and mouse input. What controller are you using?

ZR = LMOUSE R = Q R3 = GYRO_OFF I think that'd do what you're asking (assuming 'Q' is your keyboard bind for melee)

It's a program I'm working on called JoyShockOverlay. There's no public version yet, but I'm hoping to have it ready for other people this year.

Hi! There's a Discord server here: discord.gg/b4nAm6F

Hi, just go to your _3DMouse.txt file and make it say RIGHT_STICK_MODE = AIM instead of FLICK. There are some settings to tweak for the stick control, too. Or if you want JoyShockMapper to ignore the right stick you can do RIGHT_STICK_MODE = NO_MOUSE. There's lots more info in the README.

I don't think there's a way to do it with Quake Champions anymore :( I hear they started preventing virtual mouse inputs -- probably part of their anti-cheat

@@JibbSmartGD Okay. I see. Its very bad. I would love for it to work,

So adding an edit, I'm attempting to set this up for the first time. I have Doom Eternal running, I used the first community config for Doom Eternal and set the in-game sensitivity in the config file to the same as my in-game mouse sensitivity (changed it from the default 40 in the config file to 3.7 in game, not sure what number it's supposed to be since my horizontal and vertical sens are both set at 40 so bit confused here since the video says Mouse sensitivity which is the lower number) So I have the DOOMEternal.txt file in both the GyroConfig folder and my Autoload folder, I loaded up JoyShockMapper and it recognizes my PS4 DS4 controller both wired and wireless via bluetooth. It shows all of the inputs I'm pressing on the controller, but when I have Doom Eternal loaded at the same time no inputs work at all. It's like my controller isn't even there despite the program running in the background. I've tried both wired and wireless modes, nothing seems to work. Not sure what I am doing wrong exactly but troubleshooting and trying to see what I am missing. After typing RESTART_GYRO_CALIBRATION in the JSM program and holding Left Trigger I can get the mouse to move on my desktop, but it still won't work inside of Doom Eternal. Going to keep testing. Also want to add that I have tried turning on Playstation Controller Support in Steam and turning it off. JSM recognizes the controller running on the Desktop either way but turning on and off PS4 DS4 controller support in Steam while the game is running seems to make no difference in getting everything to work. Edit: It seems like the last step I am missing is loading up the modified config file into JSM. I have tried dragging and dropping the .txt file I've edited and saved for Doom Eternal but nothing seems to appear in JSM when I do this. I just mouse drag and drop the .txt file into JSM window at the bottom line, then hit Enter like it says in the ReadMe and nothing happens. Double Edit: Seems that comment below me about typing in the path manually worked for getting the config loaded. Some reason dragging and dropping doesn't work for me either, not sure why it works for some and not others. So it works now after turning off Steam controller support for PS4 controller. Annoying part is the gyro sens is super high despite being the same in the config file as ingame mouse sens (which is 3.7 for me). Also the left joystick doesn't move my character around and I'm using the top/first community config file for Doom Eternal, not sure why there are no movement keys? Another Edit: Ok read the rest of the config page and I see that there's different choices for movement, but the WASD keys are not included by default because you need Steam enabled but need to disable everything but analog stick movement (which is something I don't know how to do so I'll have to figure that out later). For setting up one game this is a long and frustrating process. Getting my gyro aiming to be comfortable working while also having all of the keys and inputs match what I want seems like it's probably worth it in the end, but something that will take several visits to get done. Usually for something like this I just get frustrated and have to come back later when my mind is fresh. I could see this method of controlling games being very popular if there was an easy way to get games configured and controlling with your inputs quickly instead of taking hours learning how to set up and get things working. Sad that there isn't this amount of UI and ease of access like the Steam controller say has but for something just kind of brought into existence it's very interesting. I'm sure i'll come back to it later but for now it's just so much easier to use a mouse and keyboard for now unless the game really calls for a controller like say Death Stranding or something. I have a Steam Controller, PS4 and Xbox One controller and more and I've found that the Steam Controller is nice, but overall it's just easiest to use a mouse and keyboard for games that require good aim, and then a PS4 controller for games like Dark Souls or whatever. I am assuming that's how most people feel in this day of PC gaming, but I love that the Flick Stick could potentially become popular if it's much easier to set up and configure and use.

Sorry it has been so frustrating getting DOOM Eternal working. This is an unusually difficult case because they have multiple sensitivity settings and because in this particular case I'm demonstrating combining Steam and JSM. Most games and most configs on GyroWiki are much easier to set up. A GUI is planned in future, but probably as a separate application. Adding a GUI would make it take much longer to add new features, but it's very simple to make the GUI a separate app that can create configs and send them to JSM.

Hi! Welcome back! It should be possible to use JoyShockMapper on Linux, but I'm not a Linux user myself. Check out the latest version: github.com/Electronicks/JoyShockMapper

There will be! I can't say when, as I'm juggling a few related projects at the moment. My priority was to get it working at all, since those who prefer wireless can at least give it a go. Steam should work with wireless, I think, though it lacks some features I think are important (eg: flick stick, good acceleration) settings

@@JibbSmartGD That is awesome, I can't wait!!! Amazing videos as well. I try to avoid steam as much as possible. This looks to have so much more promise than DS4 Win to me. I hope it grows!!!!

Thanks so much! There's a new update coming soon with more features, and I'll try not to take too long on the Bluetooth option

@@JibbSmartGD can i use switch pro controller wired?

JSM doesn't officially support it yet -- the controller only communicates wirelessly by default until the Switch tells it to change to wired mode. I've heard if you change it to wired mode through Steam it'll work wired with JSM, but I haven't verified it myself.

Yep! They shouldn't interfere with each other at all

@@JibbSmartGD that's great,how to download gyro only dude?

Run the program and then only set up your gyro settings. For example, just set GYRO_SENS = some number to activate gyro and set your sensitivity

@@JibbSmartGD oh yeah one more question,do you have any gyro drift issues?,if you have do you know how to fix gyro drift?

If you mean the mouse is moving without you moving the controller, you'll need to calibrate it (that should be in the readme). If you mean returning to your neutral controller position and the camera or cursor isn't where you want it, it's best to have a "gyro off" button

Just set GYRO_SENS = 0 :)

@@JibbSmartGD thanks for the help (i changed all gyro related stuff with a # in the beginning)

Perfect. Glad you got it working

​@@JibbSmartGD now i disabled the camera movement in the right stick in steam input and i'm using only the flick stick in the JSM, thanks for making all those flick stick videos, now i feel i can play better with this config. The long press timing and config in general is really better than mine or even SC API in general, it's kinda weird how long it takes to register the long press; and i was making another button mapping but i e-mail from wikidot don't appear to me at all so i can't join the wiki, i'll try to join another time

Sometimes it takes a little while to come through. Glad you're liking it! It'd be great to see your configs on GyroWiki!

Ooh, that'd be great! Have you seen where you can share configs for games on GyroWiki?

Notepad. There's a tutorial on GyroWiki

Yep! Let's say left trigger is your aim button. It's something like this: RIGHT_STICK_MODE = AIM ZL,RIGHT_STICK_MODE = FLICK

thank u so much!!

@@tonkyland No problem :)

I pressed Enter afterwards, like with any other command :)

Sinden support would be cool, but I think it does its own conversions and doesn't need JSM, maybe?

@@JibbSmartGD From what feedback I get on the Sinden Discord, playing such a game with a lightgun is apparently impossible because of "relative vs absolute mouse input", since in classic / typical lightgun games you have a fixed screen where you can shoot in any corner, whereas in this game the field of view changes when you move the mouse. Help and forgive me if I just don't understand it but since the Sinden lightgun emulates a mouse why is it not possible to change my field of view with it as well? I wouldn't shoot an alien hiding in the upper left or lower right corner of the screen by shooting in the corners but would move my lightgun a little bit so the alien in the (former) upper left of the screen is now the center of the screen. What's your opinion on that if I may ask?

Sinden support would be cool, but I think it does its own conversions and doesn't need JSM, maybe?

@@raymondreddington1878 I don't know how Sinden works internally, but it's likely setting an absolute mouse position rather than sending a relative mouse movement. Many games that deal with relative mouse movements will set the mouse position to the screen centre over and over, so they probably just wouldn't work with Sinden. If it's absolute, it's not dealing with the kinda stuff JoyShockMapper normally deals with, so I don't think JSM would be able to help

@@JibbSmartGD *sigh* Thanks very much anyway for your kind and quick reply. And good luck with your great piece of software!

That's right!

I always have a button to disable the gyro while it's pressed. Sometimes it does something else as well (tap to crouch, for example). All games with gyro controls should have a way to disable it -- it's almost as essential as mouse players being able to lift the mouse off the mousepad (and serves the exact same purpose).

@@JibbSmartGD I have disable gyro to touchpad hold/touch. I’m currently playing around with a toggle between joystick mouse and flick stick

Thanks! The default position is entirely up to you. Some games take the direction of gravity into account, but they're intrinsically less reliable and consistent than pure gyro-only controls. JoyShockMapper doesn't care which way you hold the controller. It doesn't know what up or down is -- it's all about rotations relative to wherever it's pointing at the current moment. So, if you have a button to disable gyro, you can hold that while moving your controller into a more natural position. I hope that makes sense. Let me know if you have any trouble.

@@JibbSmartGD yes that makes sense, thanks for the reply!

No worries :)

Hi Jun Joro, I still don't know. I don't have one to test out. I'd love to hear if you give it a go!

@@JibbSmartGD i been testing the 8bitdo pro controller specify Sn30 plus and does not work for me, i try to use "pro controller" mode wich is for switch controller and it just register the buttons but it seems do not anything on the pc.

I have just tested an 8BitDo SN30 pro+ controller. The short answer is yes, the gyro does work, but only under specific circumstances. First I'll explain exactly what worked, then I'll explain what didn't work in my testing. What worked. • Have your controller unplugged from the PC and turned off (you can turn it off by holding start for a second or two). • Hold Start and Y until the lights flash back and forth. • Plug your controller into the PC by the USB-C port at the back of the controller. At this point only the player 1 light stayed lit for me. You should now be set up correctly. To check, load JoyShockMapper. It should detect your device as connected. If you load the Windows.txt profile into JoyShockMapper the gyro should instantly control the mouse, but you may need to eliminate a drifting cursor by the usual method (RESTART_GYRO_CALIBRATION and FINISH_GYRO_CALIBRATION). What didn't work. • Using the controller wirelessly under the Switch input mode (connecting after holding Start and Y). Maybe there is a way, but I could only keep it connected in Switch input mode with the cord plugged in. • Using the controller under X-input or D-input mode (connecting after holding Start and X or Start and B respectively). While these connection methods do allow for wireless connection, JoyShockMapper will not detect the controller in these modes.

Mind if I ask which controller you're using?

One of JoyShockMapper's purposes is as an example of how to use JoyShockLibrary. I might write a guide at some point. Thanks for the suggestion :)

You can use the right stick normally by setting RIGHT_STICK_MODE = AIM You can also change the deadzones, response curve, sensitivity, acceleration -- there's lots more info in the README: github.com/JibbSmart/JoyShockMapper/blob/master/README.md

Thanks a Lot, greetings from México

Greetings from Australia :)

A few people have been having problems with dragging the config in, so I need to fix some problems there. If you can try typing in the relative path, that might fix your problem. Eg: GyroConfigs/Overwatch.txt

@@JibbSmartGD This step seemed to fix the issue for me, I couldn't drag and drop into the JSM window either. Hopefully this will fix my problems with JSM not working in Doom Eternal now for my first game test.

JoyShockMapper only works with PlayStation's DualShock 4 and Nintendo's Switch Pro Controller and Joy-Cons. Steam can do it with the Steam Controller and some popular third-party Switch controllers. There are some other controllers that have the features but expose them in different ways (bespoke software that converts gyro to mouse movement). What controller are you hoping to use?

I don't know if reWASD can do that

Hi! PlayStation's DualShock 4 is supported very reliably by USB, but some people have been having trouble with Bluetooth not working properly. I'll keep working on that. Switch controllers work best by Bluetooth, but the latest version has experimental USB support. Have you set up a config that uses gyro? If not, entering the command GYRO_SENS = 1 should get the Joy-Cons controlling the mouse. If that's not working, let me know :) You might be to calibrate them if the mouse is moving on its own -- put the controllers down, enter the command RESTART_GYRO_CALIBRATION, wait a couple of seconds, then enter FINISH_GYRO_CALIBRATION.

@@JibbSmartGD Thank you. I typed in GYRO_SENS = 1 and it did nothing but then I thought that it could have something to do with the fact that I am using a laptop with a trackpad. So, I connected a mouse and tried it again and now I have verticle mouse movement. Is there any way to have horizontal mouse movement as well? I guess this does not play well with trackpad mouse movement. But now I can see how it works so thanks for the help.

That's peculiar. It should have horizontal movement as well. Smart to try connecting a mouse, but I'm not sure what else to try. Have you tried with a Pro Controller or a DS4?

@@JibbSmartGD Actually It just kind of started working. Just had to start the program now It works. Thanks a bunch.

Haha, I'm so glad. No worries :)

Is it spinning even when you're not moving the controller? You might need to: - Disable controller in CSGO's settings; - Make sure your config's IN_GAME_SENS is the same as the game's sensitivity; - Make sure you're calibrating the gyro (put it down and press and hold the PS button for a few seconds).

@@JibbSmartGD hi, thanks for the answer, I will try it! :D

@@JibbSmartGD alright I tried your suggestions and disabling the controller in csgo stopped the spinning but now I can't do anything in game, but I think my mistake started earlier, when I inject the csgo config it says not recognized

Oh yeah? Try manually typing in the relative path to your config eg: GyroConfigs/CSGO.txt

@@JibbSmartGD yay it worked, thanks alot! :D

Hi! Look for GYRO_OFF in the readme :)

@@JibbSmartGD cheers mate! :)

Hi Ian, I call it "JoyShockOverlay", and it's not yet ready for the public, I'm afraid. But I'm hoping to make it available this year.

@@JibbSmartGD The overlay is very pleasant to look at and should be included in the main gyro package if possible. Streamers will want to use both and it sells the concept right away without a single line of text.

There's still a lot of work ahead. I'm not sure if it'll be free or not. Either way, it probably won't be included in JoyShockMapper. But if it's free I'll make sure it's easy to find anyway.

@@JibbSmartGD Fair enough! May your quest be a success.

Thank you :)

There are tools that can hide your controller from the game. Vyking has a good video on using HidGuardian to do just that

@@JibbSmartGD Ok I'll take a look. Thanks you.

I tried with Hidguardian, the controller isn't detected by the game anymore but remapping still doesn't work. :/

You should be able to enter the command WHITELIST_ADD in JoyShockMapper so HidGuardian lets it see the controller and then RECONNECT_CONTROLLERS

​@@JibbSmartGD I already did that. JMS and Hidguardian work successfuly with any game of sofwtare that I never had problem with. But when I try with RE7 Hidguardian works but JMS doesn't :/

Thanks for the feedback. You can make it so that while a button is held the stick changes to traditional aim mode. Eg: E,RIGHT_STICK_MODE = AIM Gyro sensitivity can be set by GYRO_SENS. When flick stick is calibrated correctly, this is a real world value. For example, GYRO_SENS = 1 means the in game camera turns the same amount of your controller. GYRO_SENS = 2 would be double.

@@JibbSmartGD So I typed in GYRO_SENS = 100 in my preset. didn't actually change the sensitivity at all. There was no difference with the gyro. Bur R,RIGHT_STCIK_MODE = AIM did work. So thank you for that. No idea what's happening with the gyro sensitivity though. I even check jotshockmapper and it says that gyro sensitivity is *100. So I don't know what's happening

@@teneesh3376 It might be getting overridden by something later in the config. For example, _3Dmouse.txt sets MIN_GYRO_SENS and MAX_GYRO_SENS, which overrides GYRO_SENS

@@JibbSmartGD So how would you get rid of the override? Deleting _3Dmouse.txt does let me change the sensitivity to something higher, but then flick stick doesn't work

Disregard my last comment. I figured it out myself. Though to be honest, I prefer stick aiming in conjunction with gyro aiming. But if I had to choose between stick only aiming or gyro aiming with flick stick, I would choose the latter. The main thing that flick stick is missing is a button to centre the vertical like splatoon. But I completely understand why this isn't possible

I haven't tried Aim Lab. I'll have to check it out when I have the time

I gave Aim Lab a go today. Spidershot. Alternating Mouse, single JoyCon, DualShock 4 until I had completed 10 of each. My best with the DualShock 4 was 30126, my best for a single JoyCon was 28317. I'm more used to playing two-handed, and one hand on its own isn't steady enough for me. For comparison, my best mouse score from 10 attempts was 37582.

@@JibbSmartGD Very cool, I typed a maximum of 35K on my mouse, 29K on my controller. Thanks for answering. Have you completely written your program yourself?

@@OneHandController Yeah, there are a few parts to it. JoyShockLibrary reads the input from DualShock 4, Switch Pro Controller, and JoyCons. Reading the Switch controllers was adapted from an open source JoyCon driver for vjoy, but was otherwise written by me. JoyShockMapper is the application that converts that input to keyboard and mouse input. I wrote that. And I made the 3D controller overlays I use in my videos, too, but that's not available publicly yet. But I can't imagine how much work it is to make your own controllers! You must be doing hardware and software, right?

@@JibbSmartGD Yes, now it’s not difficult to write code to make your controller on Arduino. Have you tried to make xinput in place of the keyboard and mouse?

It works with Joy-Cons, but I don't know about Stadia

any update on that I would like to know as well please

JoyShockMapper doesn't detect or support Wii U controllers, I'm afraid. And not all 3rd party Switch controllers work

Thanks for fast reply. Edit: im using 3rd party switch pro controller. So there is no point to use 3rd party controller but the real controller?

The gyro gaming discord has people using some 3rd party controllers, but not all work with JSM. That could be a good place to ask and find one that works. What controller are you using?

That's another program I'm working on called JoyShockOverlay. It's not publicly available yet, I'm afraid

@@JibbSmartGD oh ok

By default it communicates exclusively by Bluetooth even when connected by cable. The controller has to be told by the device it's connected to to communicate over the cable, and I haven't implemented that in JSL yet.

If you're talking about flick stick, look up "ROTATE_SMOOTH_OVERRIDE" in the README. It lets you adjust the smoothing threshold, but not by a lot at the moment.

Sorry, I don't have time to finish it up for public release. But there's a free 3D Controller Overlay out there that's popular

I've heard that wired works if you have Steam open at the same time, though I haven't tried it myself. In future I hope to get wired working properly without Steam.

@@JibbSmartGD okay, thanks for answering!

Hi! I made the 3D controllers myself. They show what I'm doing live, so they're always in sync with the gameplay behind them. I plan on making it available to the public this year.

@@JibbSmartGD Wow man, awesome work. Keep the videos coming. I can't wait to use the overlays myself when you release it.

Thank you :) More videos soon, God-willing

No it doesn't, I'm afraid

No Xbox controllers for now. The main reason for JoyShockMapper is to enable gyro controls, but Xbox controllers don't have a gyro

There's no second program required. Sometimes it helps to run in admin mode. Are you sure you've enabled gyro aiming by setting GYRO_SENS to something greater than 0?

A couple of possibilities I can think of: 1. If you're calibrating by holding down a button, I've found the Home button to interfere with the gyro when it's held for some reason. So when I release it, the calibration is wrong. I don't know if that's what you're doing. 2. If you're using gyro alongside traditional stick aiming, your right stick deadzone might be too small, and it might be the stick that's actually dragging down

@@JibbSmartGD the sticks are not drifting at all in any game i try, until i open JoyShockMapper, and I am not holding down any button, i have it flat on my desk not being touched

Try typing in the relative path, eg "GyroConfigs/config.txt". At the moment it doesn't like long paths or non-ascii characters

Hmmmm... This is unusual. A couple of questions for you: 1. Have you tried running JoyShockMapper as admin? 2. Are you using first party Joy-Cons or third party Joy-Cons?

@@JibbSmartGD They are official red and blue nintendo joycons and yes I have run as an admin, I got the push of buttons and yet but the gyro does not and then when I enter the quake the buttons or anything does not work either : c

@@davidsoto5107 help me please😭

Does JoyShockMapper say that it detects both Joy-Cons? Sorry, there's not a lot I can do from here, but I'll try to help you through it

@@JibbSmartGD It gives me this `` 2 devices connected´´ and then I start by pressing buttons on the joycons and it recognizes them, but I move the joycon and the cursor does not move even when pressing the button `` home '' the gyroscope calibration comes out and nothing, and when I drag the quake configuration it does nothing either ... With the pro knob exactly the same. I play with the pro controller on steam specifically because I am a gyroscope lover but I always wanted to be able to play with the separate joycons pointing with my right hand as I usually do on switch....

when i run the program the inputs come across as they should but when i turn on remote play the gyro movements do absolutely nothing and the controller functions like a normal controller.

@@tkyler65 IIRC, an update to PS Remote Play made it so that it no longer works. I don't know if there's anything that can be done about it

@@JibbSmartGD i've spent all day trying to tweak it and find out why either my controller worked with no gyro or it got cut off completely but inputs showed an active gyro. the only reason i've been trying to figure this out is I've been seeing a lot of people on apex playing on playstation using gyro somehow. I hope we can find a workaround soon 😢

@@JibbSmartGD and thank you for responding so quickly, i would've spent way too much extra time trying to get it to work

@@tkyler65 Others are probably using reWASD. I'm pretty sure they figured out a way to make it work :)

You should be able to stop the program by clicking on the X at the top-right

@@JibbSmartGD I did that but the mouse was still moving with gyro but then I realised it was steam that was doing that

I'm not familiar with Retroarch. Does it use mouse controls?

Thanks for the detailed info! Are you connected by Bluetooth or USB? And it's not a third party controller, right?

@@JibbSmartGD Sorry for the delay. I was connected by Bluetooth and it is a first party controller.

Follow up: After playing a game on Steam with the Pro Controller, I tried JoyShockMapper again. This time when I loaded Windows.txt, the gyro acted as a mouse as intended. I'm not sure why this made a difference at all because during my first tests where the gyro didn't work, the buttons were as intended, so it's not as if the controller just wasn't connected. I'm not sure on the consistency of this method either. If I end up with more data over the coming weeks then I'll report back with my findings.

@@HoleSam Sorry it's been giving you some trouble. Steam's probably doing some stuff that JSM's supposed to be doing. It's weird, though, because this isn't a problem I've encountered. I'll try to find out what JSM should do differently, but in the meantime, trying it with Steam first might be a reliable workaround.

​@@JibbSmartGD No need to apologise Jibb, for all I know perhaps something on my end was causing the issue. I think your work here is going to accelerate growth for better gyro and stick controls in the gaming landscape. I'm quite excited for you and all of us who benefit too. By the way, when I got it working, I tried it out as both a mouse for windows and in a first person game and I must say it feels so natural once it is set to my preferred sensitivities that I actually want to play more games on PC now. You'll definitely hear back from me once I'm more certain on what triggers it to work or fail on my end.

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It should be in the .zip

Do you use any other programs with your Pro Controller? Sometimes they block the controller from being seen by other programs

@@JibbSmartGD well it is a third party controller but I tested it later and it happened with my regular pro controllers. And no I'm not using any other external programs

Most racing games will only do analog steering through some kind of controller input. For now, JoyShockMapper only fakes keyboard and mouse input, so I don't know of a way to get gyro steering into racing games, I'm afraid. Maybe Steam Input can do it?

Gyro Gaming yeah I didn’t know steam could do it but it did, thank you!!!

Oh good, I'm glad that worked out :)

Some people have been having trouble with drag and drop not working properly. Can you try typing in the relative path (eg GyroConfigs/game.txt )?

Oh no! You're typing the path relative to JoyShockMapper, right? Like: GyroConfigs/config.txt

@@JibbSmartGD I type "GyroConfigs/doom.txt"

@@JibbSmartGD i saved the doom config file into jsm/gyroconfigs folder you provided

JSM sees my controller. Is there something i'm missing with 34bit and 64bit?

@@codforlife That should be all you need (assuming you're not including the " marks). Someone had this problem recently in the discord, too, and I think restarting JSM fixed it? I don't think 32-bit and 64-bit should behave any differently from each other. It could be worth trying running JSM in admin mode, but that shouldn't be neceesary... I'm not sure what else to try at this stage :(

Are you connected by Bluetooth or USB? Some people have trouble with DS4 Bluetooth, and I'm hoping to fix this soon, but in the mean time USB should always work.

@@JibbSmartGD sorry for the late reply, but I'm connected via a cable, otherwise it doesn't Dectet any input.

Have you tried entering the command GYRO_SENS = 1 and seeing if it moves the mouse at all?

@@JibbSmartGD that seems to have fixed it, thank you!

Sounds like the config isn't loading properly

It can be used with Steam, yes :)

@@JibbSmartGD What controller do you recommend? my joy cons take forever to connect and I can't decide on dual shock and switch pro, it's also really cool that you're responding to viewers

Thanks :) I normally recommend DualShock 4 because I usually prefer to play wired. If you prefer wireless, JSM's support for wireless DualShock 4 isn't working for everyone (yet), so you might be better off with the Switch Pro. A lot of games natively recognise the DualShock 4 with no option to ignore it, so if you go with that you might want to get some software that lets you hide the DualShock 4 from the game. Vyking has a good video on that. Also, if you play on a really high refresh rate monitor, it's worth knowing that the Switch Pro only sends updates 66.7 times a second, which can make things stuttery at really high framerates.

Hi, I'm not turning it like a racing wheel to turn the camera left and right. The 3D controller is shown from above, so the triggers are pointing forwards. It's pointing roughly towards the screen kinda like how one points a Wiimote at the screen to aim. If you would prefer to hold the controller upright so that the underneath of the controller is facing the screen, you can change the horizontal axis by setting MOUSE_X_FROM_GYRO_AXIS = Z. You may need to invert the horizontal axis, too -- I don't know which way it goes by default off the top of my head.

@@JibbSmartGD I read bout this command, but where I should put it?

@@JibbSmartGD I put this command on .txt and .3dmouse.txt. Now it's working!!! But I need to invert the horizontal axis. I'm trying to use STICK_AXIS_Z = INVERTED STICK_AXIS_X = INVERTED amd both are not working

You want to change the GYRO_AXIS_X, not STICK :)

@@JibbSmartGD Thanks! Now its perfect!!

Hi! Is it an official Switch Pro, or is it third party (like a PowerA, for example)?

@@JibbSmartGD official, the Zelda's edition one.

@@An_Idiot_KZfaq_User If it's this one, it's a PowerA controller, and it's not supported yet. Maybe soon -- I'm looking into some stuff that might affect PowerA support. store.nintendo.com/zelda-enhanced-wireless-controller.html

@@JibbSmartGD oh, thanks for the help! Ya, it's third party. That's my fault, sorry. Mine is made by HORI.

Does JSM tell you how many controllers are connected?

@@JibbSmartGD Yes, it show one controller. and when I hit buttons and move the controller JSM shows it. but nothing happens to the cursor or my game.(I also loaded a config). pls help thank you

Some games won't work with it unless you run JSM in admin mode. Have you tried that?

@@JibbSmartGD How do I put it in admin mode. and the cursor wont move on the screen even on the desktop. Thanks

@@Chuckles-mz3oj Oh, if it won't even move the cursor on the desktop then it sounds like it didn't load your config. What does it say when you load a config?

Yeah, PS3 controllers aren't supported. Their motion sensors are very limited compared to PS4

What do you mean nothing happens? Is your cursor moving before you calibrate?

@@JibbSmartGD Are you calibrating through steam or windows, I've tried both but when I calibrate my controller on windows for some reason the inputs won't appear and gyro is still inactive

What controller are you using? It shouldn't matter whether you're using Steam. JoyShockMapper should show when you've pressed a button and when you release it. Does JoyShockMapper detect your device? And did you press 'Enter' after dragging in your config?

@@JibbSmartGD joyconmapper can detect my buttons, but not gyro. I have pressed enter but to no avail. Also I went with the switch pro controller as it had a better battery lol

Did you load a config? Or if you wanna try gyro without loading a config, just enter this command and hit 'Enter': GYRO_SENS = 1