This is a WASTE OF MONEY On The NCL Prima | Go Karts, Galaxy Pavilion, Shows & MORE

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Жыл бұрын

Today I will checking on the activities on board the Brand New NCL Prima Cruise Ship like the 3 Story Go Kart Track, Virtual Reality area known as Galaxy Pavilion, Premier Show Donna Summers and more!
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@SuperGoatTV Жыл бұрын

Is anyone else concerned that newer cruise ships are moving more towards having less free activities and using more and more space for paid extras? What makes cruising so unique is the value of how much is included. But if you get onboard and the only free activities are the pool and the shows (assuming they don't start charging for tickets) then you might as well take a flight somewhere and stay at a cheaper hotel and go explore otherwise you might find yourself paying thousands of dollars for a small room with a not so comfortable bed an always crowded pool and some half decent food... Buyer beware...

@canitbechristine Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I booked my first ever cruise a few days ago and what sold me was that food, shows, my room, non-alcoholic drinks, most on board activities except bingo and alcohol tastings and the spa are free. I'm on a smaller, less newer ship and am more than happy with that for the value I'm getting.

@aristotel3s808 Жыл бұрын

Royal has more free activities but expensive drink package, NCL has a cheaper drink package and to pay activities. Ive done 6-7 cruises to compare both cruise line. If I wanna party, NCL cruise is my go to, if I wanna relive my childhood, Royal Caribbean is my go to

@SuperGoatTV Жыл бұрын

@@canitbechristine First ever cruise! Wow! Congratulations 👍 Hopefully the industry won't change and hopefully you'll have a blast. Cruising is awesome! I'm boarding the Carnival Mardi Gras tomorrow for a 7 night Carrebien cruise! Have fun and welcome to the Cruising community 😎

@SuperGoatTV Жыл бұрын

@@aristotel3s808 I've been on Carnival and Royal Caribbean and I love Carnival, I've been on 11 cruises 9 with Carnival and I'm boarding the Carnival Mardi Gras tomorrow for my 10th Carnival Cruise and they too have a ton of free activities and they have the most free food options of any cruise line, I want to try NCL but you should try Carnival, I think you'll enjoy it 👍

@wendylafavor6411 Жыл бұрын

That’s why we like the smaller ships!

@Jazzykatt23 Жыл бұрын

I completely understand charging money for the go carts and virtual reality but to charge for the mini putt and darts is greedy.

@karenjensen2345 Жыл бұрын

Insane

@dylpickle6123 Жыл бұрын

The mini golf maybe, because its a “smart” golf. Darts I totally agree. When I went on the escape that stuff was closed due to covid, but it was free

@TheVixen59 Жыл бұрын

When we sailed Prima in October, the golf and everything was free. It may depend on cabin type,on second thought.

@NickyD 8 ай бұрын

its not greedys crusies arent cheap or free ever

@Jean2235177 Жыл бұрын

Huge thanks to the staff for allowing your tour 👍🏻

@krazygal7674 Жыл бұрын

Rodrigo is awesome. I met him on the Norwegian Pearl October 2019, my last vacation. Tell him Kathy in China says hi. He often would sing karaoke with me. He is a great singer. it was so nice to see his face again. i long to cruise travel but fear i won't be able to until i decide to permanently leave China. Living vicariously through your videos.

@TravelingwithJenny Жыл бұрын

Wow that ship looks like it has a ton to do for older kids, thanks!

@mitchellbelinda50 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Rodriquiz, I’ve never been in an escape room either, but was curious!! Wow, Germany!!!! Thanks for sharing

@thezeeshowcruisefun Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video bro it's nice to hear for somebody that used to work on the ships describe what's happening for real thank you

@Majja13 Жыл бұрын

Jay your videos could be 30 min and I would not mind, they are that good!!!

@JSHIPLIFE Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!!

@dee_mcgee11 Жыл бұрын

So glad I found your channel. I fell in live with cruising the moment I boarded the ship for my very first cruise.

@chrisbernier3889 Жыл бұрын

Donna Summer is not before your time..she is timeless.

@davidtomasetti8520 Жыл бұрын

When he first mentioned that Donna Summer was the entertainer so nonchalantly I thought it must be an impersonator. She IS timeless.

@Cha-y412 Жыл бұрын

@@davidtomasetti8520 I was lucky enough to see Donna Summers live in Atlantic City in 1978. My older Brother had bought 4 tickets , then got into an arguement with his then Girlfriend and they refused to go to the show with each other. Lol Their loss was my gain at age 17. . What a show. What a voice. Donna Summers RIP.

@craigshields8806 Жыл бұрын

She also died years ago. I’m not sure he knows that.

@jazzydiver4519 Жыл бұрын

@@Cha-y412 Donna Summer. Donna Summer. Not Donna Summers, lol.

@jazzydiver4519 Жыл бұрын

@@Cha-y412 Donna Summer. Donna Summer. Not Donna Summers, lol.

@reaper2478 Жыл бұрын

Rodrigo is the Man!! 😅.. Yeah, lots of confusing things w/NCL it seems. We sailed on the Joy earlier this year.. Enjoyed it, but the ‘extras’ taint the experience a bit.. Can’t wait to see more 👍

@corinaparson9870 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tour Rodrigo

@Linda-qm1uz Жыл бұрын

The world needs more people like you.. you are straight forward with your video's which is a pleasure to watch compared to MANY others individuals who are way too animated and just weird. I thank you and keep up the wonderful work/video's.

@nicza460 Жыл бұрын

Interesting activities on the ship. The go cart looked fun. Thanks for showing us what the ship is like and look forward to seeing the next video.

@joieb340 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rodrigo!! And thank you Jay!!! Love to see all these ships.

@rescobedo6922 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rodrigo for the tour

@Jazzykatt23 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for these videos. It’s so nice to get an inside peek. I wish I was there. My teenager is going to love the virtual reality.

@Pantherjonvideos Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the look at the gaming aspect of the Prima! I am certainly going to give the track a shot, that's for sure! Hopefully its just a 'glitch' with the mini golf because it looks really cool to try out! Really looking forward to sailing on her in February!

@MJ-gj6mj Жыл бұрын

I ❤️ your reviews! This content is so much better than the vlogs that just smile and say how great everything is. I hope to see you aboard someday, you are amazing!

@roslynbarnett5416 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Rodrigo, for the escape room tour. Loved the vlog, Jay. I can't wait to see the next one.

@staciebrooks1328 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the preview!

@swsunsetseeker7285 Жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to the virtual pavilion and go-karts. So much fun! Thanks Rodrigo for giving you a tour of the escape room. That $40 dart price has to be shared or other people got to be buying you drinks!

@JSHIPLIFE Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Either way I still can’t justify spending $40 on a bar gamr

@lorid76 Жыл бұрын

I've never paid for darts!! That's just insane! 😳😳

@swsunsetseeker7285 Жыл бұрын

@@lorid76 It's for 1 hour and it's supposedly keeps score. When nobody uses it at 40 bucks an hour, They'll lower it to 20 bucks

@lorid76 Жыл бұрын

@@swsunsetseeker7285 😂 Still so odd. I still want to go on the Prima though. Especially for the go-karts, Pavillion and escape room!! That ship is amazing. 👍

@shirleybankston2576 Жыл бұрын

Great show today! Looking forward to the next one!

@cynthiatravelingqueen9095 Жыл бұрын

awesome video thanks for sharing

@seanwendygodisamazing6340 Жыл бұрын

Great Video!! Thanks.... You always give us Excellent Footage!! 🤣😅😂 We enjoyed you racing!

@sayaayas9054 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the tour .. also big shout out to Mr. Rodrigo for allowing a sneak peak at the escape room.. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@ainsleyhilton22 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video bro👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@shron64l.4 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Rodrigo for allowing introduction to the escape room

@teresareddy7291 Жыл бұрын

Thank u. Very informative

@billyfearon941 Жыл бұрын

Wow that ship looks really cool thanks for Sharon can’t wait for the next radio

@sherri1374 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos, Jay. This was great one and very informative!

@anitabutler3864 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rodrigo

@ilikesalt7245 Жыл бұрын

I really get a lot of enjoyment watching you J.

@arlenemaxwellcopeland1644 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Rodrigo. I've always been curious about escape rooms, while doubting it would work for me. Now I think I'd like to try

@leslyehowell3390 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rodrigo for giving us access to see all the cool stuff. Even at 72 I would be interested in trying out some things. Thanks

@desireeworthy7912 Жыл бұрын

Looks like you’re having fun

@alishaqueen8052 Жыл бұрын

@The Shiplife thank you for this! We are looking forward to the ship in a few days.

@kathleencraig3804 Жыл бұрын

wow love the go carts 3 decks of fun, wow $15 for 8 min sorta expensive huh? So Donna Summer was good? My friend from LA CA was her bass player & he raves about how good of a singer she is. I sing "Last Dance" last song of solo gigs, people love it. Sounds like you are having fun. Keep those videos coming. Never been to UK so that's so cool /videos.

@thomasdosborneii Жыл бұрын

Harlem Globe Trotters--Awesome! Nobody can beat them! Donna Summers, I really like her, got to see her live at the Hollywood Bowl in L.A. Everyboby there was up on their feet and dancing and when there is dancing, I am there! The go-carts look like so much fun. I'd race to race with you and you might be surprised, I just might be number 1!

@shayb2007 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rodrigo 😎

@joshuasummers8481 Жыл бұрын

GREAT VIDEO!!

@Wild1995 Жыл бұрын

I like the pool area. Its very modern. 😉

@cydneystephen2814 Жыл бұрын

Hey J. Glad you were able to get a late breakfast. The galaxy pavilion? Oooh. An escape room. Nice. I’ve never done one. I’m a chicken from what I see in the movies. Thanks for the inside peek Rodrigo. Go carts. Fun. Mini golf. $40 for 🎯 to play for how long, an hour? 🤦‍♀️. Donna Summer our day. Would probably enjoy that. Looks like rain on your sweatshirt. Thanks for sharing all those activities. See you next video.

@constancecook-cruisetravel1166 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful ship

@cindygriffiths5917 Жыл бұрын

Great video content

@chuckoneill2023 Жыл бұрын

I tried the go-carts on my Encore cruise last year. I don't think I would do it again, but I'm glad I tried it.

@PecanBaby... Жыл бұрын

Looks like a ton of cool things to do on board but it's certainly going to mount up before you realise it, especially if you keep wanting to go back on the daily. I understand that the cruise line wants to make it's money back, for all these cool gadgets but damn, couldn't they just charge a certain prices for a ticket to give you two/ three hours going on anything you want in the place, instead of each item costing $15 for one thing up to $40 it's so confusing and definitely going to be expensive for those with kids and husband's alike 😂. I would probably go broke in know time myself because we're all children at heart when it comes to games like that. 😉

@TheSkyHive Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the hookup Rodrigo!

@gaycale5563 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rodrigo!! I would never have the nerve to go into an Excape room but my son loves them.

@deirdresmith1755 Жыл бұрын

I would love to be on that ship. Im sure most of the cool activities aren't accessible but I enjoy watching others participate. The VR, although I have yet to try it, seems really cool.

@Shameka614 Жыл бұрын

Your son would have loved this Cruise

@JSHIPLIFE Жыл бұрын

I think so! We go Go Karting all the time

@tawanaaikens6857 Жыл бұрын

Sailed NCL and their shows are awesome! The Prima is on my list.

@nanascraftygemsdawnmarie4586 Жыл бұрын

Thank you rodrico!

@sail2day822 Жыл бұрын

Seems NCL nickels and dimes you with these sport options.

@JSHIPLIFE Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately

@mariala7719 Жыл бұрын

You’re adorable. Thanks for all the content. I’ll be on Prima in 2bdrm Haven. Enjoy

@mosleygwen Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@nickbolin604 Жыл бұрын

Nice job 👍. Not a fan of people shooting people even if it is a game. They tried it on the Orlando eye and it got a lot of objections. And they are not doing it now. Let’s stick to video games.

@partyguy9 6 ай бұрын

Damn i love Darts. Will definitely pack my own set and keep my own score. Thanks for the heads up

@clett4p116 Жыл бұрын

Justin....You know "washy washy" is Royal Caribbean😄

@eleanormassaro5195 Жыл бұрын

Hmm. Was just on freedom of the seas last weekend and didn’t hear any of that when I was washing my hands at the restaurant!😅

@clett4p116 Жыл бұрын

@@eleanormassaro5195 It's what the crew member says when you enter the Windjammer

@purposeful49418 Жыл бұрын

Isn't being on the friggin ocean good enough? I have no desire to go on these ships with carnival rides! Too bad they didn't put that money into the pool area which looks like a prison yard. No thanks! Really appreciate your reviews to help save me from a huge cruise mistake!

@MRSSAXON Жыл бұрын

I was listening to your disembarkation video on Prima, heard you are going to be on Prima on Oct 15, hope to see you around.

@TheVixen59 Жыл бұрын

Between eating,walking the entire ship, shopping, and talking to others while having a drink and a cigar, we found ourselves pretty busy without extras. The Casino Staff are top rate and super attentive. The Local is great. Quick drink service on deck. Indulge Food Hall is epic! We are going again on Prima in March 2024.

@ant3974 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Rodrigo!!! $30 an hour for games uggg.

@pattyolson3842 Жыл бұрын

I'd just pay the $50 for a sea day, if you can come & go.

@Denise-pn1tj Жыл бұрын

Thank you to Rodrigo and the crew for being so nice to J.

@johnhamilton2438 Жыл бұрын

Jay I enjoy your channel. I will be on the Prima out of NY in October. It would be great to meet you. I am an aspiring content creator and appreciate your tips.

@petermoy7934 Жыл бұрын

Hey Jay! I'm loving these short videos of the new ship! Did I hear you right that you'll be on one of the Prima sailings going out of NYC next month? I'm on the 10/10 short Bermuda trip.

@jimbofootie Жыл бұрын

The darts are interactive, not just youre average game of darts. They have certain types of games you play and automatically count scores etc. They have places called flight club where prices are similar so not actually too bad on a cruise, if its able to be split between a party

@TravelingStageManager Жыл бұрын

But is it $40 per person or per game even if 6 people????

@TheresaForino Жыл бұрын

@@TravelingStageManager from watching other videos its $40 for as many people that play, however, I don't know what the time limit is, as long as it takes or if it depends on people waiting to play, because a full match depending on the game can vary. Depending on the Dart Hall there can be a cover charge or minimum drink purchase, so $40 is not a bad charge. There are currently about 12 different games that can be played with either two people or two teams. The Bull’s Eye is noted as an elevated twist on the classic game of darts featuring a video tracking system that automatically calculates each players score and offers instant game replays, this is all I could find as a description of it.

@Fishyneil Жыл бұрын

Personally, I like the 10-15 minute videos as opposed to an hour long recap. Just my 5 cents. (I can't give you my two cents because we don't use pennies, in Canada, any more.

@Cha-y412 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the informative video of the Prima. We are booked for a transatlantic on her as Haven guest in 2023. We have done 4 NCL since 2015 3x as Haven 1x as Spa suite. One of the very first concerts I went to was as a teenager was Donna Summers live in Atlantic City. That Womans voice was amazing!!! It will be hard for anyone to cooy that voice , but I look forward to seeing the show on Prima. I dont go on cruises for Go-Karts, Water Slides, virtual reality games, riding in a vehicle shaking on a deck. If I want that type of vacation Ill go to Disney World. Don't get me wrong for people that enjoy these things its fine. Maybe when I take my Grandchilden Ill feel diffrently. Thank you again for the video.

@thomasdosborneii Жыл бұрын

I freally your enthusiasm! This is truly not our granparent parents' and grandmothers' cruise any more! (All my grandparents were avid cruisers, but for them the highlight was their bridge came (after the awesome excursions)! I would like to have a go with that boxing game! I have to admit that the room scares me (claustrophobia!) but I know that most people will realliy have fun with it!

@madmeco Жыл бұрын

HA! i'm getting sick following the go cart...LOL

@debrajean743 Жыл бұрын

Cruising Jay tell me if I'm wrong. I know how much the cabins with balconies cost from my Cruising Cousin but then it seems that almost everything you might want to do costs extra. I dropped when my Cousin told me how much it cost per person for a balcony cabin on the Royal Caribbeans which she normally goes on. I think after paying so much for a balcony cabin everything should be free. Have fun and see ya later.

@Tr3y629 Жыл бұрын

Let's gooooooooo

@emilyerojas Жыл бұрын

Wow I’ve never been this early!

@alexishubbard8410 Жыл бұрын

Jay can you talk about her Disney Cruise Line you need to get back to your hotel rooms

@darploin5071 Жыл бұрын

That's something good that in Seattle did was leaving the food out for the stragglers to come and get something to eat while they get ready for the lunch menu and it cuts down on food waste cuz they would just throw it out if they did not have it out there for people to eat

@AssassinCreep2552 Жыл бұрын

NcL ships are beautiful but they nickel and dime you for alot of the activities on board. $40, dollars for darts is outrageous! Also mini golf should be free. This is why I sail Royal 90 % of their activities are free and included in the cruise fare. Like bumper cars. Dry slides and mini golf. Zip lines, flow rider , bungee jumping. Rock climbing walls, ice skating. Just to name a few. When I go on a cruise I want everything included in the fare except for speciality dining. NCL needs to stop charging for alot if that stuff. The race cars should be about $10 for 15 minutes.

@yolandarivera546 Жыл бұрын

You pay enough to go on now nickel and diming people is just too much...

@karenjensen2345 Жыл бұрын

The go carts are 15.00

@MJ-gj6mj Жыл бұрын

Agreed! RCI more bang for the buck. Hope they stay that way seriously! I won't do Norwegian bc of the extras $$$

@CEOdawg Жыл бұрын

The go-kart track looks like something out of Super Mario Kart. I'll find my way on board the Prima in 2025.

@BadsinceJuly21 Жыл бұрын

I will be seeing you in October…

@chris.440 Жыл бұрын

Just been on the Encore which was great, the go karts were fun but not quick never need the brakes, my only complaint would be that with all the space for go karts and laser tag taking the back third then the vibe and haven on the front third you are left with a quite restricted area for the pool deck. We ended up paying for the vibe as finding six beds together wasn't always possible.

@davidhoffman8122 Жыл бұрын

My wife really enjoy the VR on the Carnival ships. She tried it once and now it takes me FOREVER to get her out of the game room.

@randellshephard4178 Жыл бұрын

What kind of VR? Which one Carnival ship 🚢, ?

@davidhoffman8122 Жыл бұрын

It is just the kind that shows thing alone the line of a roller coaster. It was on our last cruise on the Legend.

@dianeallen7313 Жыл бұрын

Maybe they're trying to price out the younger kids from the darts? Although I think it's safe to say, some adults act childish too... Great video! I really appreciate the sneak peek!

@TheresaForino Жыл бұрын

There's probably an age limit on the darks. It can be a dangerous game if not played properly. Also, a little hard to play if your to short to throw the darts. Most Dart Halls have an age limit, most serve alcohol too.

@illuminaughty2929 Жыл бұрын

Cruise ship goes to Berlin?!? That's so cool.

@donnawood271 Жыл бұрын

Can you do the haven

@JSHIPLIFE Жыл бұрын

Yes! Working on that now

@dionmorehead2911 Жыл бұрын

Jay thanks for the information. Also what's the best ship you recommend from each cruise line? Thanks

@sportsMike87 Жыл бұрын

Well it's either upcharge or charge higher cruise fare

@dennishicks6382 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rodrigo for escape room tour

@monwilds Жыл бұрын

Hi Jay you mentioned Donna Summer. She is deceased. Is someone going to impersonate her? Many thanks for all that you do to provide very good, interesting and useful content!! Have a great time!!!

@JSHIPLIFE Жыл бұрын

Yes.. It’s an impersonation and Tribute to her. Thank you so much for the support!

@eaglerose355 Жыл бұрын

If I’m not mistaken, the person doing it is Kimberley Locke.

@rdavis4818 Жыл бұрын

You're correct, Eagle Rose! Have a beautiful day.

@waynegrodt5634 Жыл бұрын

I avidly watch your channel. however, these last few i can not watch. You see, i will be on board in a few days and i don't want to see the ship thru your eyes. i want to experience the ship on my own. We are doing a back to back and will end it in New York, with the last leg (Southampton to New York ) in the Haven. Rest assured that I will continue to watch your channel after i return. Take care and keep up the good vids.

@carlagat1075 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. How dar did you get on the go-kart? How long does it take to do the whole 3 levels?

@dlrmadison Жыл бұрын

Thank you to Rodrico.

@Mebirduwine Жыл бұрын

With all the charges you might as well just go to Vegas at least you'll get a great room with awesome beds

@sabrinalavdisarnold825 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing us around! NCL is not for us, I don't think. We sailed on the Pearl years ago and there was too much planning involved and reservations for this or that. I don't know...

@ed6431 Жыл бұрын

Anyone else remember when you went on a cruise to see the sights and cultures of other cultures and to be on the sea? Pepperidge farm remembers 🤣🤣🤣😁😂😂 this is just a weird theme park 🤔

@WestCoastCultured Жыл бұрын

Before your time? Donna Summer songs are TIMELESS regardless of age. You complain like Kyle Pallo 🤣

@Bjk248 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video!!! We are booked on the Prima for January 15 and I really appreciate you giving us the tour in advance!

@busymom7729 Жыл бұрын

This makes me think what 2022 Disney Quest at Sea would look like. $$$

@wkndgrltrp Жыл бұрын

I booked the Joy and was looking forward these rides, now I'm told it's going into dry dock for renovations in Jan and they are changing that area into an extension of the spa😢

@buriar5 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful ship but my goodness everything seems to shut down at 12am. Not enough seating to be able to enjoy the live music and I felt like this is a cruise ship or cruise line for a much older crowd. I had a great time but wouldn’t choose NCL again.