Thanks for keeping these workhorses alive, and doing what they were designed to do!

We pulled a 14ft chisel plow with an 1155 for years. The 1155 had dual Rice and Kane tires that helped with the traction.

What a cool video! It’s awesome to watch those old tractors working! Just love that Massey! Thanks for providing such an enjoyable channel. All credit to you!!

Back in the 70’s we had several MF 135,165,175,1085,1105,1155. The 1155 had duals in would drag a 17 tine chisel plow no prob. That V8 Perkins had the best sound I loved running it. Thanks for your content

Have always regretted selling my 1135 a great tractor on the forage harvester changed to 2680 4wheel drive for extra traction on hills but should have kept the old girl

Interesting to see there's not much difference between the two. As far as engines go, I prefer the straight 6 instead of v8. Thanks for the info.

Cool guy really enjoyed your old beasts ,can't beat old school long live .keep up the good work !!!

Another Great Video. They are both pretty good tractors for their day. It’s Kind of neat to look at advances in agriculture, how much changes in 10, 20 or 30 years. Thanks for the videos.

It’s a win, win in the purest sense right? I do have to say the Massy just looks badass especially with the twin stacks. Thanks for another great video.

Awesome video. Cool to see the old stuff still making dirt black.

In 1980 dad traded for a 1970 5020. John Deere. We pulled a 18 ft Krause chisel (all shanks no disks). 20 ft folding off set disk. Dad had a turbo put on the tractor. Duals in good shape when he traded for the tractor. It was a beast.

😂 can't get no traction! Awesome song! Great content JT! I have a MF1135 so I'm always excited to see the 1155 work. Keep up the good work

Thanks for this video. even in southside VA, a tractor requires 1 pair of wheel weights and fluid in the tires for 70-80 hp to 7 shanks or 100hp + to 10 shanks in the red clay.

I grew up on a dairy farm in MN in the 70s. This was our life, thank you, young great American farmer

We did that with a disc chisel plow at full depth..farmall 1066 against a dyno checked at 218 hp 2590 case....1066 pulled it almost 4 mph faster. Only thing done to the 1066 was the pump was turned up....lasted over 2000 hrs and never had any engine issues , only the TA and brakes. Lost it in a barn fire.

As long as both tractors have the same weights,same type of tires there will be no problem pulling these chisel plow equally. I have pulled 3 point chisel plows that have gave a 8410 FWA John Deere all it wants. It all depends on how deep you put the chisel plow in the ground along with the soil condition on how a tractor of any type will pull them.

Nice video, I think lack of traction hurt the 5010. even with the wider tires. Very fun comparison. That inline six in the John Deere was a true work horse.Not to take away form the Massey" Perkins engine. If you can get your hands on a noble blade for plowing alfalfa try that, a three blade is a work out in gumbo for any 200 hp two whee drive. Again very fun video.

I like how you say its a draw and a little Massey logo appears each time... Amazing how that happens!! Haha!! Thanks JT!

Very fun video. Enjoy watching the old beasts running.

Great to see both out playing

That poor old 5010 is probably so tired its a miracle that it doesn't blow the motor right there. Tires are totally shot etc. Ugh.

Best way to compare is put the load to where one is being loaded down, then change the implements without changing the depth. That’s how I’ve seen it done ✔️

Shame the JD was nearly on slicks. No challenge.

Kinze knew what it took to make the Deere a good tractor.

Had an 1155 never worked it. But I always preferred straight 6 engines over the 8. Same in the IH V8s.

That 1155 is a gorgeous tractor

Another awesome video there sir, my White 4-150 has 4 brand new 23.1X34 tires on it Michelin radials. I pull a 28’ disk with it in 3rd over and it does great. But just out of curiosity I hooked my White 2-135 to said disk and it pulls it in the same gear but doesn’t work it as much on the hills as the 4-150. To say the least I was shocked that the 2-135 even pulled it. Everyone that I know that’s had an 1155 Massey days that they’re a beast when wide open but the V8 won’t lug and falls on its face pretty quick when the going gets tough but I’ve never had one so I don’t know. But yours didn’t appear to lose any RPM’s and was ready to go it just needs a little more weight or duals. The more I watch your videos the more I’m thinking that I need one lol

My neighbors 4840 John Deere had duals fluid and weight. My 1155 (no cab) had 23.1 singles and no fluid but I had 1200lb on the 3 pt he unhooked from his 13 shank to go disc, smiled and asked me if I would like to pull the chisel plow. The field was tough clay. My tractor has dual exhaust and we built the motor and it dynoed at 236hp BEFORE i put 5 more turns in the smoke screw! I told him that i was about 10,000 lb lighter than him and probably couldn't do it but would try. I hooked up and was in second like you. I could pull it where he had it set but was squirming around when I hit high multipower. I quickly realized that I had gobs of power but didn't have the weight to go faster. I finished the field. He comes back, grinning, and says, "I saw you making some smoke out there, but then it quit. What did you do?" I said "yeah, I was in too low of a gear, so I shifted up 2 and throttled back to 1300 rpm." The smile went off his face he said "really?" I said "yeah,Those perkins have horrible exhaust manifolds and start smoking and drinking fuel more if wound out. I had plenty of torque and didn't need all the horsepower it just made tire spin!

Tractors rarely see eye to eye. But you can bet, after you head inside for the night, they're out there laughing and carrying on, sipping an oil flavored beer, and picking straw out of their toothy grill, cuz they were in cahoots on that tie. Keep on farming JT, we can't live without farmers. Keep the shiny side up, and the pointy side down.

Quite interesting!….years ago I worked with a guy in the Miss delta, hard gumbo soil that was a pain. He had MF 1130s and 2 new 1155s. The 1155s were great machines, rarely had issues with them and they would handle what ever you hooked to it. Those Perkins were peppy engines and ran great.

Grew up with a Massey 1080. Was a great tractor. That Perkins engine was great.

Great video JT- really enjoyed the comparison

Another thing. Your comment about the 1805 not pulling the harrow that much better than the 1155 made me think. Back in the mid 70´s we were at a fall demonstration where varius companies showed their machines for Sugar beets, winter seeds and plowing. I, as a very young, but fairly experienced kid, got to try a 1505 pulling a 6 x 16" Kverneland in clayish soil. I remember being surprised that it needed ALL its traction- and power for that matter, to pull the plow at a decent 8,5" depth. I had to keep the rear axle locked most of the time. I guess the weight transfer could be better on those models.

Great video JT, I like that version of that song gonna be stuck in my head forever 😂, every time I spin I’m gonna be thinking about your video 👍🏻

We had an 1150 with a turbo. It was pretty powerful. Then we got an 1155. Same power, less noise and better cab.

I knew neither would pull a 13 shank. I have a1270 and an 11 shank is about all it wants to pull. Same problem not short on power but the tractor just ain’t got enough ass.

I had a Massey 860 with that V-8. They sound good had plenty of power.

Man, i would love too see duals on both and some hard core pulling videos. That was a pretty cool comparison video. I bet the engine temps would start to get high after awhile.

We used to have a 5010 just like yours. It even had a ugly cab a lot like yours. Traded it in on a 7020. It was a great machine,always wished we would of held on to it.

That’s the exact chisel plow we use on the farm and it will pull our 290 hp buhler down and the 290 fwa case down as well but it’s running 3 inch sweeps

We pulled a 28 shank jd chisel plow with on 5020 depends on depth you go. We normally only run 4 inches deep except in fall go uo to 6 inches deep

Nice old iron two of my favorites. If they had duals with weights and Titan radials I guarantee they would pull it .heck the engines did not make a change. Great video.

The M-F 1155 sure sounded sweet.

I'd pick the 1155. That damn thing will pull down a house. Great tractor

Been nice to what would have happened if you had dual rear wheels.

A friend of mine here in southeast Mi bought a chisel plow like yours.to pull behind his 5020 with duals. The first time he dropped it in the ground it stalled the tractor. He and the salesman worked for half a day adjusting the plow. Finally they got it to pull well. Coincidentally he later bought an 1155 which also pull it egually well.

The 1100 series were excellent tractors. Then Massey released the 2000 series and the transmissions proved to be a disaster. Cost the company millions in recalls and warranty work. Rumor was that the engineering dept. said the tractor was not ready for the market but sales and management overruled them. That decision hurt the company's reputation so much that it has taken years to get it back.

Raising the draw bar height one or two inches with spacers and then adding front weights would direct the straining force to push the rear tires down.

Dad said he could get the same work out of a Massey with 2/3 of the fuel a John Deere used

A D-21 with a traction booster hitch would have had a better chance at having the traction.

we had a 5010 like that with the fold out windows and back door. we had an extra 45gal fuel tank on the front because they only have a 45gal tank standard. it was a good old tractor, the fuel injector pumps (Bosch)gave trouble with the internal seals leaking and then you got diesel in the sump. The radiator top tanks can corrode and leak along the seams also. hydraulic pump flexible drive rubbers and spline chopping out . that's about the worst of it. also had a few 5020s , and the jd760 elevating scraper, 9yard. it was basically a 5020 gooseneck set-up. scary fast though in top gear. twice what a normal 5020 would travel at .

Never seen a 5010 IRL, but it sure sounds sweet.

Put water in the tires and antifreeze halfway of water it will put more it won’t spin

I am a Massey Collector and understand Them better than most. I also understand the other colors although not as acutely as MF. I have never seen anyone utilize the Pressure Control feature of the Hydraulic System. If You will look on the Quadrant lever for the three point Hitch, You will see Position Control. Turn it One Quarter turn and You will see Draft Control and yet one more quarter turn will be Pressure Control. To work correctly, Pressure Control required a special Hitch Cone. This allowed the Implement to turn on the Hitch and, of course it allowed a lateral swing. However, with putting weight on the Implement and, on the front of the Tractor it would shift that weight onto the rear wheels only as needed. That feature is not a thing now that late day Tractors gave front wheel drive. P S. How about a feature on M H ?

The sad part is that most people will never see inside it to appreciate that Perkins. Its a real work of art! They erroneously apply the 6cyl are better, no bottom end torque to them from brand x's performance and quality The exact opposite is true. The operating range starts at 800 rpms, and they, if set up right, will get down on their knees and lug! Perkins did not make a "throw away" V8! Having been inside all the others V8 and 6cyl working at a tractor scrapyard and in heavy equipment and semis building engines, I can say that the Perkins is a world apart! They probably cost 2× as much to build as a Cat or IH. I have never seen a more overbuilt, finely finished, high-quality motor. They are probably 500 lb heavier than an IH 549. They were designed as a twin turbo 640 ci tugboat engine, not as cheaper option to a good 6 cyl in trucks. they could make 400+ hp with a 100% duty cycle. The marine 540 twin turbos was rated at 350+ hp. they ran for 10,000 plus hours at this. Everything in that engine is replaceable from the sleeves to the lifter bores. There's almost 2" between the cylinders. The heads have replaceable hardened seats and can be decked to clean them up (not so IH). The main bearings are a whole inch bigger, and the wrist pins are much bigger in longer rods in the Perkins. The rods have saw teeth on the caps for alignment. Every single piece of casting flash or any machined edge in that engine is HAND polished. The cast iron is of such high quality and contains so much cro-moly that the main bearing surfaces, etc, are GROUND and not machined. Many fasteners are tapped FINE thread, which is not possible in regular grey cast iron. The cam runs in a trough of oil for lubrication, and so it's oiled on startup. The water jackets and pump are huge. The oil pump is massive. They will not overheat. In fact, they take a long time to warm up. They have a thermostat in each head with a separate pipe up to the radiator. There is a crossover in the block in case one fails. I farmed with mine for years at 236 dynoed hp no turbo (it's gotten healthier since) before I grabbed the right side pipe by accident after coming in from the field and realized it was cold. We could see that that sides thermostat had obviously been stuck shut all those years going thru the emergency bypass across the temp gauge with no overheating! My only gripe is that the cylinder head port flow could be much better, and the tractor exhaust manifolds suck. The ports angle towards the center, but they dump out the ends and are only about 2" inside diameter. This was fine for turbos but not so good N/A. They glow orange right at the center in a hard pull. British trucks had really nice high flow manifolds. I like the bottom end torque and wide powerband of a naturally aspirated motor that doesn't fall out of boost down low. This is possible with more advanced timing than possible with a turbo. There's good reason for all the extra $ for an 1155 over an 1135 just to get 7 more rated HP. Also, their wider planetaries and upgraded ring and pinion gears. Now, why would they do all that to an already tough rearend for only 7 hp more coming from a supposedly "torqueless" V8? have met people that pulled 1155s that said they still used the multipower up to 600hp.

Well, as a long retired MF Service Rep, those tractors had Pressure Control and top link sensing. For it to work with draw bar implements it required an A frame on the tung. I am proud to say I transferred enough weight in three days to bend the tung on a 22 ft disc with a MF 1135 but did not spin out nor lug the tractor at the Farm Progress Show 1976.

Normally you would have a set of duals on for this type of work, and that cures the traction problem!

Hey Joe,,,great video again. Screw the comparison. Just let the big dogs eat. Fun to watch the old horses get after it. Well done,,,head for the mountains.

Maybe a lower gear would have helped it a little. It definitely has the torque but it doesn't have the weight and maybe the wrong tire setup......

I owned a 1155 and its best day was when I sold it. Dad had a 5020 and it was a decent tractor. At a auction green always wins.

Have a 1155 just like yours. I will be posting a video of it soon on my channel pulling a 9 shank chisel plow. Pulled it no problems at all.

If you can weigh those two tractors down and give them enough traction, both of them will pull about anything you put behind them. The 1155 was probably the best all around tractor Massey ever made. Old John Deere's are tanks, run forever.

This is so fun JT! My grandpa bought an 1155 new in 1974 and it was still one of our main tractors up until 2001. My uncles put a turbo on it and injectors from a 2805, so needless to say she would really pull!

Your channel name should be “JT’s Barn and Grille” as in a tractor grille. You can use that for free! Just found your channel; enjoying the old iron!

Great video I love those old Deere’s you don’t see anything like that here in ireland 🇮🇪

You can’t beat pulling with a Perkins

I love Deere but I’d take that Massey any day

The Massey looks slightly newer and more powerful.

I saw a friend try to move a 10 ft chisel with a D6 cat. It had no cylinder, so it went all the down. It stopped the dozer! He didn't want to tear it up ,so he stopped.

5010 needs new tyres and some weights. comment from germany. both good tractors.

JT, both tractor's are the winner's. cool MF 1155 JD 5010 is cool too, butt MF 1155 is awesome. keep the wheel's on the sunny side.

Awesome video im a massey guy have a 1100 diesel from granpa.....but all the old tractors are pretty dang neat

Put duals on them and then you will find out which one has the most power. Massey wil come out on top. Those V8s are just plain tough.

i love these old tractors

Fair comparison! Would have been interesting with duals really good fun video! Thank you

Does that 5010 have a 5020 engines most if they survived got different engines because the blocks crack

In this case, torque is way more important than horsepower.

Yes they have the power

I borrowed a 5020 from the neighbour to pull a chisel plough in heavy soil, it was a long time ago but I remember two things number one there was no problem with power and number two it used 55 gallons (200L)of fuel in eight hours maybe even more.

Can you show us how you operate your John Deere 4420

Better red than dead or green with envy!!!!!!

Excellent video JT :) also do both tractor on back wheels have Differential Lock pedal that sure tell how good both tractor will pull and work! I know certain wet years on Mother's Nature give be challenging on wetness! In 1993 was horrible year for my late Dad; Uncle on home farm plus 2 rent farms it so bad you Lol ! When get Combine grains off was one part it stuck on side road we use 4 tractor and tow truck 4×4 pickup 1 ton type to pull out on super mud road ! Throw mud to moon and back also not fun! Then get Corn for silo filled 4 tractor plus one tractor didn't have Differential Lock on 2 wheel drive wheels and all rest did not 4×4 ones but tell was big feilds of mud and slipping also skidding! I know my dad and uncle said was worst year ever in farming and never want happened ! Plus rain so much then sunshine ever and in November do end silo and get pick corn it snowing so much ever seen in one like 3 months worth! I know I didn't like too told them!

fun video that's something I would try I like both tractors

If you could find an old MF combine someday that would be cool content however your 4420 doesn’t need replacement it looks nice. My grandfather was a MF man that had 2 other jobs always had cheap old equipment but got the job done. One time he went to an auction to buy a 300 for parts machine and drove it home figured out it was actually better than the “good” machine” so we ran that one. 😂 Thanks for the videos they are really good

Hello fun video. I think if you had duels on you would have less traction. The weight of the tractor spread over a broader surface so less lbs per square inch. Same thing no traction. Enjoyed your video have a good day.

The best Massey Ferguson 1155 perfect beautiful thank you

Great fun with those old gals Just 1 question about the front axle of the John Deere Its a straight axle and not stepped up like the Massey a little unusual Thank u for minding your vintage tractors for all to enjoy 100% respect from another farmer in Ireland 😎

THE 5010 IS STILL MY FAVORITE WE PULLED 28FT GLENCOE DIGGERS DEEP TILL WHEN I WAS A KID GROWING UP IN MINNESOTA

Like both tractors. Old John has sounds good

Figured the 1155 would pull it because my dad uses a 1130 to pull an 11 shank chisel plow. Think the 5010 would with better tires.

JT I new that would stop the 5010 dead in it’s tracks. Not enough tread or weight. Besides those Firestones grip a little better than the dyna-torc II .

Pretty fair comparison overall! I agree with duals and fresher tires on the green one I bet both would pull it specially if you drop her slowly lol ease it into the earth!

Two cool old horses

Beautiful Massey

Old green needs some paint maybe lose the cab. Those old Deere cabs left something to be desired. Great demonstration!!

Massey all the way !

all in all I think it was a pretty fair fight and an even draw

Massey is beast , wow! Kinda surprised it worked that way

The 1155 is the clear winner due to coolness of engine sound alone!

Well, right off the bat, the Massey Ferguson definitely has better rubber than the John Deere.