Ranger Matt Atkinson discusses his involvement in the formation of the "Lost Cause" after the American Civil War.
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@fieryweasel3 жыл бұрын
The Lost Cause tradition tends to trip over itself by simultaneously saying "there's no way we could have won" and "if it wasn't for Longstreet at Gettysburg we could have won".
@OldHeathen19633 жыл бұрын
Truth has never been CSA's strong suit. They gaslight and lie.
@alexeubanks4673 жыл бұрын
The argument in a logical sense is saying we were up against extremely long odds and our best chance at winning the war was messed up by Longstreet at Gettysburg. A confederate victory at Gettysburg means Abe doesn’t win re election and a peace is negotiated as the public was war weary on both sides . A victory there could have also drawn support from foreign interests and help in battling the blockades.
@markcrampton55493 жыл бұрын
@@alexeubanks467 Some people claim to be able to predict the future, but predicting the past is impossible!
@jonathanbaggs4275 Жыл бұрын
@@alexeubanks467 no. Gettysburg didn't have any impact on an election more than a year away. Gettysburg had zero impact on Lee's reputation. See Gary Gallagher for a better understanding of this event. Gettysburg wasn't even a turning point in the war.
@blacksheepbear6382 Жыл бұрын
And now we have trans kids… something was lost.
@batesm Жыл бұрын
Jubal Early is my second cousin on my mother's side. My Grandmother's maiden name is Early descendant for Col Jeremiah Early, A son of the American Revolution and father to Jubal and Jeremiah. I'm descended from Jeremiah Jr. This was a very informative and accurate lecture. Ruth Harriston is a great resource as well as Early's own Memoir.
@teegreenburg Жыл бұрын
I’m also a fourth great nephew of Jubal Early. John Early was my fourth great grandfather. I’d like to talk to you. My second great grandmother is Emma Early, the granddaughter of John.
@glenndenton15408 ай бұрын
We are distant cousins. My Great Grandmother was an Early and my Grandmother knew Jubal well.
@ricklude8 жыл бұрын
Matt's lectures and battlefield tour speaking programs just rock. He makes learning historical facts about Gettysburg and the civil war in general fun, by NOT boring visitors or "KZfaq" viewers to tears.
@6CylSuccessVideos5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, just brilliant. High school teachers could take lessons from this guy and more young people would be interested in the importance of history in our lives. Matt, I’m looking for more of your videos! Thanks so much.
@bjohnson5155 жыл бұрын
High School history teachers teach history? First of all, it is called Social Studies or something like that... Civil War? It was about slavery, now turn to .....
@6CylSuccessVideos5 жыл бұрын
B Johnson...And that’s exactly the problem. And my point. Thank you.
@redthepost4 жыл бұрын
I am a retired US history teacher. I agree that Jubal early would be an interesting person to be studied. The man’s character is worth gold. He was a complex fellow and worthy of examination by high school students. the ACW was our nation’s most significant event. Lee, grant, early and, yes, even Longstreet can provide students with a deeper understanding of the Civil War and its causes.
@johnhoudyshell73123 жыл бұрын
The one thing that is almost overlooked was the economic consequences of freeing the slaves. Lincoln put the value of slaves at 800 million in 1856, in 1860 the total federal budget was 80 million.
@outdoorlife53962 жыл бұрын
yea, I think MS had the most millionaires in the country
@standingplain12 жыл бұрын
There were 4 to 4.2million slaves - I understand their value was $3.5 billion as a whole. That would mean the average slave was $875, which is historically correct. A man slave was usually $1,000, a woman $800 and a child $500. The amount you attribute to Lincoln in 1856 is too low - $800 million would only be $200 per slave. Where did you hear Lincoln put the value at $800 million?
@ae15862 жыл бұрын
And by 1866 the nation was 2.2.billion in debt and the state of Mississippi spent more on paper pencils and ink in the year of 1867 than their entire state budget for year of 1860
@Baseballnfj5 ай бұрын
@@ae1586that's what happens when the economic parasites take over
@The_Red_Off_Road4 ай бұрын
Natchez was one of the three most wealthy cities in the US in the 1850’s. And it’s pronounced “Natch-z”. Like the book of matches that you light a fire with. Not Natch-EZ. Natchz 😂
@fateagle4life8 жыл бұрын
Matt needs his own show about the "rumors and myths" of the Civil War on the History Channel
@texasforever78875 жыл бұрын
If only the history channel had anything to do with history anymore.
@marymoriarity25555 жыл бұрын
FreeThinking Texan the history channel is not what it once was. Mr Atkinson is far better
@marymoriarity25555 жыл бұрын
I must add the history channel is far from its original purpose very few of its programs deal with any topic in history. Of anything
@destubae3271 Жыл бұрын
Same with Tik
@samulihirsi8 жыл бұрын
Matt Atkinson one funny man, good lecture, much like his battlefiled tours....
@neilpemberton55234 жыл бұрын
"We slept upon the field, glad that we had saved Washington from capture. … Early should have attacked early in the morning. ‘Early was Late.’”- Elisha Hunt Rhodes
@marymoriarity25555 жыл бұрын
I’ve listened to this lecture several times. It’s well written and delivered with information and a touch of humor. Ranger Atkinson is unique. All the NPR rangers are excellent in their presentations. Their knowledge makes both battlefield tours it lectures worthwhile.
@ajones19615 жыл бұрын
Attending one of Matt's lectures is now on my bucket list.
@glenndenton15403 жыл бұрын
I spent my childhood Saturday s listening to my Grandmother relate the LOST CAUSE as told to her from her cousin General Jubal A Early . She was born right after the war but he visited their house for weeks at a time. She had as much respect for her cousin as she did her own Father. Oh, the hours of “ lecture” I endured! But I too learned to love the man.
@jeffclark78882 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@jellis2608 ай бұрын
Very cool Glenn!
@jebstuart40043 жыл бұрын
Nobody here in 2021 can judge those guys. they were the product of their generation. you can t look at them with 21st century eyes. Just imagine : you fought during 4 years, you have seen horrors like never before, your friends dead, injured, badly injured for some of them, tour family became poor, your world collapsed, your honor shattered. Just think about that ! i would have continue the war, the fight till total destruction. it is psychologically the worst thing which could happen : defeat. i have much respect for the southeners. you can say they were racist, has been, deconected from the reality of the world who was changing, but anyway, i m respectfull because they lost more than a war.
@Baseballnfj5 ай бұрын
People who project their current politics onto history are BAD AT HISTORY and have no chance of actually understanding anything. You have to look at history from the contemporary political situation to understand why people did things. You have to understand that people did not know what was going to happen... it's hard but discarding hindsight when examining history is essential.
@pondzischeme64303 ай бұрын
They knew that shit was evil then lol only one first world country practiced slavery with the most extreme barbarity, southern US states.
@sionnachmacbradaigh10105 жыл бұрын
Didn't realise how completely Longstreet was vilified. What a fascinating figure he was. Historical figures who grow, transform and evolve fascinate me.
@BlueSideUp774 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy these lectures and this ranger in particular during shutdown!
@pentecostalangel16 жыл бұрын
My gg grandfather fought under gen. Early. 2 Nd Lt. William Chapman Browning 45 th Va. CO. D
@jbolf68 жыл бұрын
Another great presentation, well done Matt!
@AlGreenLightThroughGlass6 жыл бұрын
Pretty rich that Longstreet was largely blamed for Gettysburg defeat by Early - every Confederate General made critical mistakes there. The more points of view you get from Gettysburg, the more interesting it gets - a very human story.
@highlanderservices64195 жыл бұрын
Longstreet kinda gave Early the ammunition lol and there was no way that Longstreet was going to out talk or out debate Jubal lol ...that was one battle he sure was gonna lose
@bjohnson5155 жыл бұрын
I am guessing Longstreet detected Lee was ill or not of sound decision making. On the 2nd, Hood wished to delay to get Evander Law's brigage up...they marched 20 miles to get there.
@davehallett31285 жыл бұрын
Obviously lee s fault. Obviously. Lee the great tactician was human and allowed to get carried away with his enviable record and overestimate his valiant army s ability to storm an impregnable position on higher ground. It s a matter of record that longstreet tried on several occasions to.change his commander s decision. Longstreet was later vilified for daring to besmirch. The marble man
@geistman82308 жыл бұрын
Great video and lots of fun to watch! :)
@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt5 жыл бұрын
Matt Atkinson...I really love this guy !!! Bravo Sir, bravo !!! (from a Greek fan of yours)
@grahamleigo88426 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this presentation.
@garanduser8 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy Matt's presentations. Well done!!
@hellcat81373 жыл бұрын
Matt is my favorite! Love his presentations!!
@outdoorlife53962 жыл бұрын
Remember that the farm of the Earlies was about 5000 acres. The house still stands today. It is a small farm house, like a big shot gun house
@alanaadams7440 Жыл бұрын
Thx for sharing 😊
@Grant258 жыл бұрын
Matt has a weird and funny delivery. Very enjoyable
@DornAndGrant4 жыл бұрын
Only just found this series. Great summary at the end.
@MrAuk9292 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Lecture, many thanks.
@jalexwheeler77515 жыл бұрын
The numbers have a bit of an impact on the argument. "2,776,000 men served in the Union military while about 750,000 served in the Confederate military" Roughly 4 to 1 odds, or 3.5 to one odds. It is difficult to refute the argument about numerical supremacy.
@willoutlaw49714 жыл бұрын
Over 200,000 African Americans fought in the United States Army during the Civil War. These African American troops were fighting for the abolition of African American slavery. Confederate troops were fighting for the preservation and expansion of African American slavery.
@mykofreder16824 жыл бұрын
They were politically wiped up and the deciders (Sothern money people) thought more of themselves than they should have and they made the Japanese mistake of stomach for war. The fact was there was not the support for a slavery amendment to the Constitution, they also should have realized there was no political will to force anything in the current slave states with troops. The war was on for many months and Lincoln still would have come to a agreement that would have preserved slavery at least for his 8 year term to end it, and I would almost guarantee slavery in the slave states would have had little change in 1868 (end of Lincoln term) if they would have done nothing. They would have probably had slaves and grandfathered slaves into the 1880 or 90s, if they could have tolerate zero cooperation from norther states on escaped slave and no new states were allowed to have slaves. Actually the Confederates did a nation a favor in ending slavery in 1865, I could not imagine what the country would be like if people born a slave before some anti-slavery law remained slaves and were still slaves into the 1900s.
@SplotPublishing4 жыл бұрын
Which does not alter that a win is a win, and a loss a loss. How many North Koreans fought against US and South Koreans? How many Russians v Turks? Pick a war. Numerical supremacy is one part of EVERY combat calculation. It can win or lose a war for you, in combination with all other factors. You cannot claim to have NOT lost a war, because you were numerically at a disadvantage. Yeah, no shit, that's how you lose. Early and the rest of the Lost Cause liars and self deluders are wrong, and any fool that credits their arguments as worth 2 feathers is allowing themselves to be be deceived about too important a fact.
@alanwallace41302 жыл бұрын
Once you joined the confederate army you were never allowed to leave. The CSA government kept changing how long you would be conscripted for until it became the length of thr war. Federal troops could leave the army as soon as their time of service was served. Therefore the numbers quoted are not representive of the size of the US Army at any one time.
@eq1373 Жыл бұрын
@willoutlaw4971 a Tennessee mountain boy who had never seen a black man in his life was fighting for slavery? How about a Texas frontiersman that never saw a slave plantation in his life?
@cwb00518 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, thanks Matt..
@indy_go_blue60485 жыл бұрын
Jubal Early is an interesting person. I didn't realize he had THAT much influence on the "history" of the South in that conflict. One historian called Dick Ewell Early's "wife" as he had so much input an influence on Ewell's actions at Gettysburg and beyond. I don't think it's unfair to say that Ewell's decision not to attack Cemetery Hill on 7/1 was as much Early's decision as his own.
@nolanolivier67915 жыл бұрын
That was absolutely outstanding.
@reuelray2 жыл бұрын
Old Jubal is my great-great-great-grandfather on my mother's side. I still have the program from a family reunion in Roanoke Virginia back in 1977 that mentions him when he was a lieutenant in the US army and fathered a child; who is my great great grandmother. If old Jubal came out of the grave and saw me, a black descendant, he would turn around and go right back down in the ground. It's ironic that the very people he oppressed, native Americans and blacks, are his offspring and there are hundreds of us. Go figure. 🤷🏿♂️
@batesm Жыл бұрын
We are cousins. I would love to hear about your resources. Jubal was my second cousin.
@reuelray Жыл бұрын
@@batesm most definitely. Are you on Facebook messenger? KZfaq doesn't seem to have a way for people to privately connect. I'll be glad to share and trade information..
@michaelpaulpadillamdacgrou79042 жыл бұрын
Great Job Matt!!! As to Jubal's Honesty, I find the man to be highly credible and the fact that countless letters were written by his contemporaries after the war, acknowledging his ability to recall battles, numbers of troops, who and what commands were at his flank and his rear! He must have duplicated every battle report he ever wrote, the man was an eyewitness and principle participant in almost all of these Battles. His Knowledge of the other key principles, was second to very few of the living veterans of the Confederacy. His accounts and that of Lee's chief artillery General John C. Pemberton, (who was born in Pennsylvania) on the events of July the 2nd and morning orders, seem to indicate the culpability of Longstreet, in failing to carry out the orders of the commanding general on both days but particularly on July 2nd 1863. Amazingly historians love the one Lawyer, the seasoned politician, Lincoln -but despise the other lawyer and west point graduate, Jubal Early. A man by every account of the leaders he served ,as one of the most able, steadfast and loyal commanders Lee Possessed. Jubal Early could not have garnered as much respect, from his fellow veterans in his tear down of Longstreet , if he wasn't considered to be a upright and Honest man! We have a terrible tendency in these times, to discount the first hand Knowledge of those active participants and to pay credence to those who were born 100 years after the battle was fought, who are jaded by modern indoctrination and political correctness ! For example, when the Veterans of Confederacy were asked at the time, why they fought, most said, for states rights and against northern aggression, but the modern historians claim " no no- we know that's not why", because that doesn't fit the narrative and doctrine they've been fed. With the exception of a few, most of the modern day historians are seeking tenure not truth in history! I also count Matt as an extremely honest Historian and a seeker of the truth!
@stevelenores56374 жыл бұрын
The wounds of this conflict have never healed to this day.
@carywest92563 жыл бұрын
And never will as long as there is one person from the South who knows the truth about the War.
@stevelenores56373 жыл бұрын
@@carywest9256 During the pandemic I made multiple studies. The Civil War was the second one after studying the disease itself in order to protect myself. My studies including what happened before the war and its aftermath. The North was left mostly untouched while the South was devastated with exception of Texas. One of every fourth man of military age in the south was killed, as much by disease as battle field wounds. Much of the remainder was crippled with missing limbs, loss of sight, hideous scars, and mental scars. The landscape resembled Europe after WW2 and left the south in economic ruin. Another result was a deep white/black division with the black man not reaching anything close to equality until the 2nd half of the 20th century. Now we are faced with deep racial division, a demonization of Caucasians (Malcom X's portrayal of the white man as a devil is a universal mem now a days), and a social upheaval on every front. I don't have any solutions, only an observation.
@alexeubanks4673 жыл бұрын
The honor and courage of the southern soldier will not be forgotten. Only real men participated in this war on both sides. Only one against the odds numerically , financially Etc. only one came home to ruin and military rule by the same ones who had burned their Farms , homes, stabled their horses in their churches. Only one side came home to see everyone Had been robbed cradle to grave literally and the civilian population (Mostly women and children) starving and Without shelter. Only one side suffered for a damn near century to recover completely. The southern is a proud & brave liberty loving people . Our hero’s are John Sevier , Ben Cleveland, col Shelby . Francis Marion , Daniel Morgan , General LEE & J.E.B Stuart , col Mosby, General NB Forest & Jubal Early and Stonewall Jack ! We remember how our freedom came to be in the first place and the blood that our forefathers shed in defense of our families, homes and liberty itself from all threats . My grandfathers on both sides of my family have fought in every war from the battle of kings mountain to the jungles of Vietnam.
@carywest92563 жыл бұрын
@@stevelenores5637 You are correct in your research, l have read that one in five men who fought for Mississippi and survived were amputees. There are places in the South to this that haven't recovered and probably never will! Thanks for responding...
@stevelenores56373 жыл бұрын
@1861 In Their Own Words Don't confuse some with all. Generalization an attribute of some to all persons of any color is a form of racism also. What a few bigots say doesn't speak for all or even a majority of others.
@kirk1898 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy Matt's lectures!
@voxxclamantis96684 жыл бұрын
Great lecturer, the past history of the civil war must be prevented without bias if we are to learn it's lessons.
@murrycarlson8 жыл бұрын
good job Matt.
@faveuncle554 жыл бұрын
This is excellent. The breakdown of the lies behind the idiotology of The Lost Cause is succinct and powerful. Kudos!
@eq1373 Жыл бұрын
If that's what you took away from this, you didn't actually listen to it.
@NipponStiqqyPaint Жыл бұрын
Did you just respond to a 2 year old comment? Wow
@beachcomber1able6 ай бұрын
@@NipponStiqqyPaint Are you a good ol' rebel. 🤔
@lincolnlawyer97043 жыл бұрын
Great lecture, thank you.
@willoutlaw49714 жыл бұрын
Lee estimated that one third of his Army was AWOL at Antietam. Longstreet said 7,000 of his men were deserters as of September, 1862. Anyone reading this have a relative who was a Confederate deserter?
@tinmanx22224 жыл бұрын
Little Willy : Desertion proved a far more difficult problem for both sides. Official figures show slightly over 103,000 Confederate soldiers and over 200,000 Union soldiers deserted, with some estimates as high as 280,000. New York, Pennsylvania and Ohio made up almost half of all Union desertions, and North Carolina and Virginia led the way among Confederate troops. www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/desertion,-cowardice-and-punishment.html
@james64954 жыл бұрын
Dumb ass liberal with the name Outlaw..makes me laugh
@carywest92564 жыл бұрын
Will Outlaw is such an assinine jerk!
@DarthPlato5 жыл бұрын
"Overwhelmed by massive Northern manpower and matériel." General Early never lived to see the Vietnam War.
@xotl27804 жыл бұрын
How fucked would it be if he did?
@DarthPlato4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you're asking. But in 1865 there was a very real possibility of Confederate officers continuing the war from the brush. Such an asymmetrical approach would've taken many years to get rid of, if ever. When Lee got wind of this, just before Appomattox, he summoned his officers and warned them. And it didn't happen.
@OldHeathen19633 жыл бұрын
CSA could have won! If Lee was as good a General as Nguyen Giap, learned and took lessons from Native Americans. But Lee was not as "great" as the South ...OR America would like to remember him as!!
@OldHeathen19633 жыл бұрын
BTW. Giap, like General Robert E. Lee, had very good military training, and from thr same country! The U.S.A.! 😮😮
@eq1373 Жыл бұрын
@@OldHeathen1963Lee was from Virginia, not the USA
@michaelwoods44955 жыл бұрын
When I read General Early's memoirs I expected his story would be told from his perspective and it was. Allowing for that I thought it was pretty straightforward and honest.
@SN-xk2rl2 жыл бұрын
The avg. southern soldier absolutely DID defend slavery. they were told, and believed, that IF slavery was abolished - then Black men would be marrying (or raping) thnseir wives and daughters in the fairly near future once chattel slavery had ended. Avg, not slave hold whites, did not own slaves, but they were material beneficiaries of slavery and White Supremacy. Subsequently, these people did believe in and materially support and aid both slavery and White Supremacy. And to be fair, like 99% of Northerners were also White Supremacist racists, they also feared racial miscegnation (race mixing). Most White Northerners only gradually came to oppose slavery - but did not support full Black citizenship, Black voting, Black migration to Free States, and other civil rghts for Black people. So, most Whites (vast majority) supported WHite Supremacy - but WHite southerners committed treason in the wake of a democratic election they lost, in order to defend and promote racialized chattel slavery of Blacks and an economy, politics, law and culture of White Supremacy.
@eq1373 Жыл бұрын
So the average Tennessee mountain boy who had never seen a slave plantation or a black man in his life was defending slavery? Or a Texas frontiersman that grew up around Apache Indians?
@jimschnars28662 жыл бұрын
Great lecture !
@dougkidwell71425 жыл бұрын
Another great Matt Atkinson lecture.
@marymoriarity25554 жыл бұрын
I don’t recall ever seeing this before. Giid lecture ranger Atkinson
@jamesnorwood40845 жыл бұрын
There is an definition of "buttermilk rangers" readily available on the internet for those who may not understand the derisive term.
@horatioyachapovich69198 жыл бұрын
Analytical thinkers make good lecturer's.
@emintey5 жыл бұрын
it's called being an historian in this case, a specific discipline.
@davehallett31285 жыл бұрын
Lecturers. It s a plural. Jeesus
@carywest92563 жыл бұрын
@@davehallett3128 Alright Mr. Perfecto, when was the last time you walked on water ?
@alanaadams7440 Жыл бұрын
My uncle was born in Tennessee his name was Joseph Early Hall
@edward69029 ай бұрын
Lee = Traveller’s Burden Where Jubal Early explains why it’s still caused Saigon It was too late when Early wrote “…but I become too tedious”
@edward69029 ай бұрын
‘The’ man who defeated Lee? Like there was only one?
@stevecarry60163 жыл бұрын
Great speaker. The depth of information is overwhelming. I wish more people could here the complexity of the civil war. It is not as simple as we have been taught.
@withmercyaforethought72426 жыл бұрын
Matt. this Rocks! Pls keep up the Good Work!! thanks! 🇺🇸
@bradjames64488 жыл бұрын
Time well spent.
@suzannetaylor366 Жыл бұрын
Juba early was a very good with independent commands.he fought against long odds in the valley in 1864.sheridan had between 35000 and 45000 troops.lets not give Sheridan too much credit.
@colemanspinks23394 жыл бұрын
"Out here"..."Right there" 🔥😅 I makes me laugh everytime Matt says one of these quotes OHHHHH SOOOO randomly in ALL his videos!!! I love it lol.
@matsand4719 Жыл бұрын
This teacher disproves the myth that Americans dont do sarcasm!
@marymoriarity25555 жыл бұрын
They kicked you to the library office?? Good research place Matt. Atkinson.
@christopherweber9464 Жыл бұрын
The Matt Atkinson Auditorium needs to happen.
@randyjamesrobertson7 жыл бұрын
Matt is awesome.
@james64954 жыл бұрын
Best ranger in the Park Service...give the man his office back!!
@stevestringer73514 жыл бұрын
Has Matt retired?
@james64954 жыл бұрын
@@stevestringer7351 No.. Thank God
@JohnnyRebKy4 жыл бұрын
Give his office back??
@james64954 жыл бұрын
He said they moved him from the best office in the building to the basement.
@Baseballnfj5 ай бұрын
Monocacy is one of the most interesting battles of the war. Early's entire 1864 expedition is a really cool episode. I always wondered why the South didn't utilize similar actions more... a small Confederate forlon hope force always active in the North would really screw with things.
@cwb00518 жыл бұрын
I dont think Id care much for Jubal Early..
@indy_go_blue60485 жыл бұрын
I sure as hell wouldn't waste a trip in a time machine to have dinner with him.
@OldHeathen19634 жыл бұрын
@@indy_go_blue6048 I would...with a 9 mm.
@eq1373 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are those that don't care for you either
@cwb0051 Жыл бұрын
@@eq1373 who cares?? Im SURE, You Are NOT well liked!..lol..
@bjohnson5155 жыл бұрын
A few points.. *The lack of printing capacity in the South impeded any efforts to counter balance the printed word avalanche from the Northern printing presses. Those Northern presses were busy recasting much of the reality. Perhaps Early engaged in such, but his degree and quantity pales in comparison to the amount published in the North. *The Deep South did secede over slavery, and mentioned so in their secession documents. This is quickly pointed out by those who wish to emphasize and paint the war as a one issue event. However, VA NC AR and TN, states that were solidly anti secession did not secede until troops were required to make war on the Deep South as well as blockade. These were seen as Constitutional issues, and THEY WERE! *Much of what has been portrayed as the Lost Cause and presented as post war "myth" were in fact ARTICULATED by Jefferson Davis in February of 1861, prior to any shots fired. I guess it was a pre war myth too, according to some. His inauguration is readily available to read, and the point proven. Additionally, despite the one famous quote of Stevens in his "Cornerstone" speech, the other 23 paragraphs also articulate the Southern positions, again pre war, not post war. Much of what is held as "post war myth" is actually readily disproved by reading some pre war speeches.
@indy_go_blue60484 жыл бұрын
Y'all just don't give up do you?
@SplotPublishing4 жыл бұрын
LOL Oh for fuck's sake. They didn't secede until the North required troops? Well, the South had ALREADY ATTACKED THE NORTH REPEATEDLY. They had stolen weapons, destroyed property, and taken at least one fortified miltiary position. They didn't leave before that because they still thought they could negotiate keeping their slaves. And they probably could have! But the SOUTH pushed too far, and the North HAD to respond, and that's when those states that were on the fence had to shit or get off the pot. They chose to shit themselves. Sorry, but there's NO justification for what they did. None. Not any. And it wasn't in response to those bad old Northerners trying to recruit their youth, as the SOUTH WAS ALREADY DOING THAT. Just stop.
@bjohnson5154 жыл бұрын
@@SplotPublishing Did VA NC TN AR attack Sumter? "They didn't leave before that because they still thought they could negotiate keeping their slaves. " Hey, slavery was legal, Lincoln said so in his inaugural. It was legal in KY MD and (even DE til 1865!). No negotiations required. A ridiculous comment. " SOUTH WAS ALREADY DOING THAT. " Nope. VA's convention voted 2:1 against secession as late as the first week in April '61. VA NC TN and AR were not doing that. Boy, its tough to revisit your belief system, isn't it?
@bjohnson5154 жыл бұрын
@@SplotPublishing As late as first week in April, VA NC AR and TN were still in the Union... can you point the property they took? Half the Presidents had come from VA VA preceded the federal experiment by more than 100 years. VA was the largest state in the Union VA ratified the Constitution with the reserved right to resume powers delegated if felt harmed by the arrangement. And they did...and they resumed. Regarding Sumter, Seward was telling the South Carolina delegation the fort would be peacefully evacuated.....up until the day they resupplied it. SC offered to reimburse the federal govt. VA NC TN and AR had nothing to do with Sumter. What grade are you in?
@8panthermodern2 Жыл бұрын
In the spirit of the talk, I will leave the distortions and falsehoods in this comment as an exercise for the other readers.
@American-Nobody3 жыл бұрын
Man, they knew how to grow a beard back in the day. 🤙
@hearmeout91384 жыл бұрын
Hey, I picked up the phone ringing around the 2 or 3 minute mark. 😉
@johnhoudyshell75515 жыл бұрын
Jubal Early nearly took Washington D.C. in 1864, some people believed he would have if his men had not found a barrel of whisky in Silver Spring the night before.
@OldHeathen19634 жыл бұрын
So Early was late?
@neilpemberton55234 жыл бұрын
@@OldHeathen1963 Elisha Hunt Rhodes said exactly that! "Early was late." He was in the 2nd Rhode Island which helped turn back Early's assault on Washington DC.
@jamesporter11234 жыл бұрын
the South needed a fall guy and longstreet was chosen
@Baseballnfj5 ай бұрын
Becoming super cozy with Grant and Northern veterans organizations didn't help him out at all...
@williamtoad80402 ай бұрын
I Google image searched “sore loser” and it gave me nothing but pictures of Jubal Early
@civilwarwildwest2 жыл бұрын
Man... Jubal Early was really SPLENETIC! *mic drop*
@lawrencesword5183 Жыл бұрын
was asked what was the lost cause on a confederate site about 10 years ago and i said it was about state rights meaning if a state wished to depart from the union it could as a right to do so and the person talking to me disagreed with what i said .
@Duseika725 жыл бұрын
very interesting
@patricktrussell74654 жыл бұрын
Lee did not call him the old man . Lee was 9 years older than Early .
@indy_go_blue60484 жыл бұрын
Early looked much older than his age; yes Lee did call him his "dirty old man."
@lincolnlawyer97043 жыл бұрын
Sorry Jubel, Grant defeated three different Confederate Armies, including Lee’s. You pick Lee and I’ll take Grant. I like winning.
@ftffighter7 жыл бұрын
YESSSS!!!!
@ChokeArtist4116 жыл бұрын
By suggesting that people ought to "make up their own mind", rather than coming down on a firm conclusion, it appears the presenter is trying to avoid offending his audience. The answers to these questions aren't nearly as ambiguous as some would have us believe, it's just that the idea that generations of white southerners believe a lie meant to protect their conscience from their history, is simply too explosive to entertain.
@eq1373 Жыл бұрын
What the hell are you talking about?
@SSNewberry5 жыл бұрын
There was no editing.
@mobilechief5 жыл бұрын
It was so could outside I saw a Lawyer with his hands in his own pockets
@dave120592 жыл бұрын
Not a slavery minded person, but your video made me wonder. Question is what affect did the idea of loosing the southern states money have in influencing the call to arms by the north and all that followed. The south was already breeding its labor force, Cotton was said to be king. Was tapping into the cheap labor brought by the freed slaves a driving force of the northern states? Winner writes the history and as long as I’ve been old enough to know the all mighty dollar has been pretty much the cause of all wars(though buried by the winning side). And while I have my mind working, the southern soldiers. What was the life of these prewar men. I’ve read that the job market of the south was being filled by slaves. From field hands to mill and warehouse workers, etc. Oh I’m sure all the brass held slaves, probably many of the gun totters. Rich man starts the war, poor man ins up fighting the war. I’ve always felt that church’s fueled much of the southern army’s man power. Pastors telling the men what the local money wanted them to know. You touched on that a short bit in this video. I have lots of questions about that war, these two will suffice for now. I’ve not found any information on these.
@alexeubanks4673 жыл бұрын
Lee would have bested grant on any field with even forces . If that wasn’t common knowledge then Lincoln and the department of war wouldn’t have first offered command of the army to Lee. Also general Forest would have bested any cavalry force of equal strength and probably any force that bested him by 25% . He understood like Lee The main principle of war being the “taking of interior lines and bringing superior forces to bear”
@markperrault5678 Жыл бұрын
Yous got that right
@jamesgoode2408 Жыл бұрын
Counterpoint- Lee would have tried to attack and crush Grant like he always did when strength was closer and would have gotten chewed up and Grant wouldn’t have left.
@tsolo8133 жыл бұрын
The Lost Cause = “Traitor excuses post Mortem”
@eq1373 Жыл бұрын
Traitor to WHAT?
@karlburkhalter15026 жыл бұрын
Very informative, Longstreet protected Lee with Judicious wording. Lee had serious dysentery as symptom of Angina, heart attack. He was getting standard medical treatment. Longstreet and staff kept it quite but Lee was buzzing from laudanum. Longstreet was torn between relieving him or obeying orders. Other Generals didn't see it. So their disagreement is understandable. Early showed class by printing Longstreet's complete works.
@kbrown22255 жыл бұрын
I don't believe that Jubal Early ever showed any "class". He printed Longstreet's responses because he had no choice (if he didn't it would have been proof of his bias).
@highlanderservices64195 жыл бұрын
@@wardfrancesphd2142 Did Early not actually wait until after Lee was dead to open up on Longstreet ? And really Longstreet was on a no winner there as he never could have outwitted old Jubal lol (Matt did point out Early was a Lawyer lol and I loved tat bit and how he said it )
@indy_go_blue60484 жыл бұрын
The shits have nothing to do with angina.
@marymoriarity25554 жыл бұрын
I form listen several times to sll the lecture drtird be they put out by the park service or sacred trust or other organizations. I always learn something new. Jubal Early influence seems to be as poisonous as Dan sickles about Longstreet. The lost cause theory is a myth as stated.
@willboyd46078 жыл бұрын
Lee let him down easily, but he let the South down too many times before being removed.
@BenT16204 жыл бұрын
Drink when he says "right there"!
@33maisie7 жыл бұрын
"Scalp a Yankee woman and child without winking an eye"? How funny would this park ranger feel this comment was if the quotation came from US Grant, or another Union general?
@bubbythecuck9787 жыл бұрын
Its War, snowflake.
@sloanchampion857 жыл бұрын
Maisie33 do you know how many southern civilians were killed...just for no reason...or the crimes against the civilian population by the union army?
@33maisie7 жыл бұрын
There was no justification for ANY atrocities against women and children by EITHER side. Not amusing at all.
@bullhead9007 жыл бұрын
Good comment!
@sierrahun17 жыл бұрын
This was after war, when Early was sitting in Canada and facepalming about federal policy. Obviously he did not scalp anyone he was just so outraged he wrote that he could have theoretically done it. This whole remark was self ironical as obviously he thought scalping children and women was a crime. It is funny because today it serves as a fine depiction how mad he was.
@jude9992 жыл бұрын
It was a cause, and it was lost.
@jgvtc5595 жыл бұрын
Was john c pemberton related to the Coca Cola guy
@michaelwoods44955 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long the lecture would be if he stuck to the subject without all the irrelevant asides.
@highlanderservices64195 жыл бұрын
it the side issues that make folks actually take things in and learn as he makes it fun and holds folks attention
@marymoriarity25555 жыл бұрын
The stories make even boring subjects tolerable
@clarencegreen30715 жыл бұрын
As a college teacher I learned that a person's attention span is rather short, like 15 minutes, at most. So, you need to break up your presentation frequently in order to "reset" the attention-span timer. Matt does this quite well. Excellent presentation, in my view.
@jeffreylc5 жыл бұрын
Matt’s “asides” as you term them are what in my opinion makes his lectures interesting and keeps his audience entertained.
@stevestringer73514 жыл бұрын
20 minutes
@greg_42015 жыл бұрын
31:00 ''nobody's gonna touch that one'' .......everyone with a functioning brain and a pair of balls: ''It's obviously true''
@richardwirt31935 жыл бұрын
And speaking of Gen Lee they are using his and TJJacksons battle tactics in our military to this day, you do know that don't you?
@luciferlaughs98595 жыл бұрын
+Richard Wirt ~ USA's Military use and study German, Russian, and Sun Tzu's tactics as well. So what's your point ?
@luciferlaughs98595 жыл бұрын
+Richard Wirt ~ Where ( exactly ) do you think Lee and Jackson learned any skill they had? Hum...? West Point New York perhaps. ( Lee was a butcher ) Everybody who went up against him had huge losses. Lee created the " Bloody Shirt ".
@stephendowdy47985 жыл бұрын
Swamp Yankee Jackson studied at VMI
@richardwirt31935 жыл бұрын
@@stephendowdy4798 He was a professor at VMI
@stephendowdy47985 жыл бұрын
Richard Wirt you are correct
@stevestringer73514 жыл бұрын
Has Matt retired?
@andrewo.b.76384 жыл бұрын
@Steve Stringer: I hope not. It's painful to lose these dedicated civil servants. I was one myself. And the skill levels of many of the people I worked with along the way were exceptional. These are people who accept less of a salary in order to be a part of something larger than themselves.
@james64954 жыл бұрын
He's still there.
@ctvtmo4 жыл бұрын
I love this lecturer but does he still have a job? How can someone like this survive in 2020?
@WR12MSH7 жыл бұрын
Is it me, or as the program goes on, does he seem to get annoyed with the audience? I wouldn't blame him, they seemed to act rude and uninterested. He appears to have done a great job, but they didn't really help much.
@indy_go_blue60485 жыл бұрын
I like Matt, but he is a showman. But I don't blame him if he's getting pissed because rude assholes are checking there damned phones.
@marymoriarity25555 жыл бұрын
People do the same thing in battle tours. It’s a rudeness just part of today’s society ppl are afraid to turn off cell phones even in church. They lack any manners.
@nickroberts69844 жыл бұрын
I keep my notes on my phone. That may be what they were doing ?
@indy_go_blue60484 жыл бұрын
@@nickroberts6984 Possibly. Probably not.
@SplotPublishing4 жыл бұрын
Well, he was a bit biased in his presentation, and also repeatedly suggested they were all sheep who, like the rest of the country in his estimation, just listen to biased media and teachers who tell them what and how to think. This is a common tactic of those who want to sneak past you some bit of nonsense they want you to "just consider." They are on edge because of it, and keep waiting for the bullshit he's going to spoon through the bars of his otherwise reasonable speech. And he does tip his hand a couple times. Early didn't write what he wrote because he had "seen with his eyes" anything more than he and his own side had also done. He had no cause to spin the lies he did, save his own ego protection, just like the members of all other cults, armies, and "lost causes" of history. He made up his lies, which he may even have deluded himself into believing were truths, not because of what he'd seen with own eyes, but because of the cognitive dissonance he felt over attacking his own fellow Americans to preserve a brutal system of oppression of other fellow Americans. He was an able general, but hardly a particularly great one. This guy has hero worship blindness. He pretends to be presenting without bias, but the bias is visible to the audience, if not to him. When you present two sides that you have well researched and ask the audience to decide who was right in various questions, it's usually because you know the correct answer does not agree with the one you don't like, and you're hoping they will choose your answer, if you just leave the whole presentation of facts slightly ambivalent. It's a coward's way of avoiding painful truths. He has learned, through his reading, that his heroes were not heroes, and he is struggling with just admitting it fully. So he wants the audience to side with him, even as he knows damn well, he's wrong. Ego. The mind will do anything to protect it. Cognitive dissonance pushes us to ridiculous contortions. The audience is uncomfortable, because HE is clearly uncomfortable. And the are afraid of what he is trying to get them to sign on to.
@johnmonroe73786 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather fought with Early at Cedar Creek & Winchester.
@davehallett31285 жыл бұрын
Yeah. So did 20 000 other men. I hope all theiir descendants don t write in to tell us
@carywest92564 жыл бұрын
@@davehallett3128 Ever been called an asshole?
@theclayfeet Жыл бұрын
🎉
@carywest92563 жыл бұрын
Iffen Ol'Jube had the rheumatiz he shoulda hooked up with Granny Clampett, 'cause she was known fer a making a good pot of rheumatiz medicine!!!
@batesm Жыл бұрын
Jubal, never called Ol'Jube, was from Virginia, not Arkansas. Have a little respect.
@alanaadams7440 Жыл бұрын
The south made Longstreet a villain cause he became a Republican after the war
@billyray80625 жыл бұрын
Matt Atkinson is great a lectures!!
@kevinpoole43234 ай бұрын
Listening 🎧 look
@Baseballnfj5 ай бұрын
In 2024 I could make a very good argument that the Lost Cause has much more merit and doesn't deserve to be dismissed. I actually think there's a very good supporting argument from a Marxist perspective.