Are All Cops Bastards? Police vs Criminals | Middle Ground

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0:01 intro
0:26 Cops should not carry guns
12:52 Police violence is blown out of proportion
21:52 Committing a crime is never justified
33:51 Criminals who commit violent felonies don't deserve certain legal rights
34:43 I fear the other side
43:47 Policing is necessary

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@jubilee
@jubilee Жыл бұрын
So what are your thoughts on this prompt: Police violence is blown out of proportion. Let us know your thoughts down below 👇
@BadaBadger
@BadaBadger Жыл бұрын
It isn’t blown out. But this entire episode was both entertaining but felt VERY one sided.
@devin3955
@devin3955 Жыл бұрын
It should not have been Cops vs. Criminals. It should’ve just been Cops vs. Citizens. Both these groups are going to have an obvious bias towards the other. Also, it’s more likely that the criminals will be less educated while the cops are more likely to be educated to a certain degree. The only ones I enjoyed from that side was Donna and Bonnie.
@umaiar
@umaiar Жыл бұрын
No, it's not blown out of proportion. Their purpose should be to keep people safe and be role models. Instead, when they commit violence they get protected, fired and re-employed at other departments, and on and on. As it stands now, their job is to lie, intimidate people into compliance, and run a razor thin line on the side of legality. Their job is, by definition, violence. And when they cross that line into illegal behavior, they should be humiliated and hung out to dry. Not protected.
@MrWestopher
@MrWestopher Жыл бұрын
Media corporations get huge amounts of money from over reporting and over dramatizing many issues, police violence being one of them. It’s as simple as that
@llPhenomenonll
@llPhenomenonll Жыл бұрын
yes and no. I can only speak of the things i see in Media since im from Germany and we dont have such Problems. I know many Europeans say that but: Its the Guns fault. Police has to be armed because every citizen can be aswell. How often have you done things like cussing at a loved one because youre in a bad mood? Its the same just aggrevated to way higher level. If you had no Guns you would have not that level of threat that criminals bring. Someone robs a cornerstore with a knife is way easier to take control of than a robber with a Gun. So Yes and No. Police is mad because colleagues getting murdered left and right but so are the communities if a loved one getting killed because some cop has a trigger finger. This chain of violence will not stop if the weapons are so easy to come by-
@T-Man_865
@T-Man_865 9 ай бұрын
Criminals need to take accountability and bad cops need to be held accountable. Period
@bohannonorr7665
@bohannonorr7665 9 ай бұрын
THIS.
@ShifuCareaga
@ShifuCareaga 9 ай бұрын
you win the internet and Jubilee today. FINALLY, a smart comment.
@Kekoa552
@Kekoa552 9 ай бұрын
I hate how criminals justify that there shouldn’t be no punishment as well as cops THEY ALL NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
@ejwillison2001
@ejwillison2001 9 ай бұрын
PREACH IT BROTHA!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Diamond-ox9bd
@Diamond-ox9bd 9 ай бұрын
exactly
@emmygoldman1065
@emmygoldman1065 Жыл бұрын
I’d LOVE to see an American cops vs Other developed nations’ cops. That’s a conversation that really needs to be addressed bc it is NOT the same here.
@JeyC_
@JeyC_ Жыл бұрын
Not the same by how?
@jubilee
@jubilee Жыл бұрын
This would be interesting!
@nicholasm4013
@nicholasm4013 Жыл бұрын
@@JeyC_ because American cops abuse their power
@cammymaya3516
@cammymaya3516 Жыл бұрын
This 100% needs to happen
@smashrosa8111
@smashrosa8111 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that could be an intersting conversation because there is a big shift between American police officers and those who aren't.
@brittanyrosebeauty
@brittanyrosebeauty 29 күн бұрын
Every woman in that group confessed about being sexually abused. THAT is a problem that needs to be addressed and a heavy topic to discuss. Praying for healing and strength to all.
@EpsteinKilla69
@EpsteinKilla69 10 күн бұрын
Attention seekers and self-victimisers. Common female antics in the modern world. Cry more.
@anastasiakorkova9175
@anastasiakorkova9175 3 күн бұрын
So don't misunderstand what i'm saying, but my sister in law worked at a woman's prison, and I have known a lot of correction officers , and its kind of a known thing that if you go to a woman's prison EVERY woman there will tell you they "got raped by the cops on the way to/from jail" i'm not saying they're making it up, but its a story that is repeated so much and always in the same way, its hard to know when its legit or not. Because most of the time its not.
@MrSssaaaaaaddd
@MrSssaaaaaaddd 2 күн бұрын
@@anastasiakorkova9175 She said she was assaulted when SHE was the victim not the perpetrator.
@anastasiakorkova9175
@anastasiakorkova9175 Күн бұрын
@@MrSssaaaaaaddd right…….I got that
@user-kb5wd2ds7n
@user-kb5wd2ds7n Ай бұрын
As an ex Police officer from the UK who only carried a taser. I didn't feel like I needed a firearm, as we have specialised units and back up was very close. However, If I had worked in America, 100% I would require a firearm. I've been in some incredibly dangerous positions but luckily the suspect was not carrying a firearm and I could deal with the situation with the resources that I had. However, a suspect armed with a firearm is a very different situation.
@senor834
@senor834 Ай бұрын
What do you think about the amount of stuff cops get away with in the US?
@Gracelyn-bs2kn
@Gracelyn-bs2kn 29 күн бұрын
@@senor834speak on the specific amount of cops not generalised category of all cops
@michellebowler265
@michellebowler265 22 күн бұрын
I'm in the UK too I don't understand why America has allowed public to get hold of guns should make it illegal or at least the public have a licence
@marekcrowley6452
@marekcrowley6452 15 күн бұрын
@@michellebowler265 it is required to have a license. however criminals can get ahold of guns that are unregistered or with the serial number scratched off.
@csk7041
@csk7041 13 күн бұрын
Bradley is that you?
@teeradacka
@teeradacka Жыл бұрын
The fact that all of the women in the room were raped is horrifying..
@stpeta17
@stpeta17 Жыл бұрын
@@aClownBaby- sexual harassment is not the same as experiencing a rape though. I would say they are completely different. One is more traumatizing than the other.
@idab6864
@idab6864 Жыл бұрын
I know more women who have been raped than I know women who haven't, if that tells you anything
@anthonymc8361
@anthonymc8361 Жыл бұрын
OR, not undermining the seriousness of rape, but it could be what they claimed to happen. These days the word rape and assault is just too cheap for me personally.
@tiffanimcmillian3058
@tiffanimcmillian3058 Жыл бұрын
​@Anthony MC thats kinda fd up. U can tell they werent lying nd 99 percent of ppl dnt lie abt being raped
@lead6186
@lead6186 Жыл бұрын
​@@anthonymc8361 excuse me??? Are you for real???
@darrenashjames
@darrenashjames Жыл бұрын
Charlie was too immature and too uneducated for a conversation like this but he is an example of the type of people police deal with.
@keilanscott1098
@keilanscott1098 11 ай бұрын
No police just suck
@iplayCoDandBF
@iplayCoDandBF 11 ай бұрын
Charlie has a lot of anger and trauma and he's still pretty young. I know you wouldn't get it, Darren.
@darrenashjames
@darrenashjames 11 ай бұрын
@@iplayCoDandBF I've been through plenty of trauma, I just don't live my life as a victim.
@iplayCoDandBF
@iplayCoDandBF 11 ай бұрын
@@darrenashjames yea dude you tell those minorities to just get over it!
@iplayCoDandBF
@iplayCoDandBF 11 ай бұрын
@@darrenashjames whole lot of cooning in this comment section lmao
@neonpyre7469
@neonpyre7469 Ай бұрын
I got arrested for nothing, so I refused to answer, but I was doing drugs tho lol what
@jbucksaduck
@jbucksaduck Ай бұрын
"I WAS ARRESTED FOR NO REASON, COPS BAD"
@averagezyzzenjoyer5630
@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 Ай бұрын
He was arrested for smoking weed. You should try to help that kid and not treat him like a dangerous criminal and abuse him . Yall are confused af
@neonpyre7469
@neonpyre7469 Ай бұрын
@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 you seem to be the one confused blud, I'm just pointing out how slow the guy seems to be with his contradicting statements, don't tell me you're slow too?
@jbucksaduck
@jbucksaduck Ай бұрын
@@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 Found the criminal.
@chinBTT
@chinBTT Ай бұрын
@@neonpyre7469 dw hes in every reply defending the ignorant mf, hes probaly his brother or smth.
@djap500
@djap500 Ай бұрын
I feel like the ‘criminals’ didn’t know they agreed that police violence is blown out of proportion😂
@pendragon7600
@pendragon7600 Ай бұрын
And then they didn't seem to understand the next question either. Like the question was is crime ever justifiable. Idek what they were talking about, it had nothing to do with the question.
@RakinHoda-yl5es
@RakinHoda-yl5es Ай бұрын
@@pendragon7600 Like bro i just watched the first 5 minutes the guy just pointed out civilians owning guns as defense for school shootings so lil bro was saying civilians should have guns but not cops?
@guedrini2045
@guedrini2045 26 күн бұрын
Donna was intelligent but the rest of the convicts had a combined IQ of 50😂😂😂 they’d lose an argument to a dead person
@ShayWilliams-xn9hg
@ShayWilliams-xn9hg 12 күн бұрын
No, bc the phrase "blown out of proportion" could also mean the police are doing too much, and their violence has gotten too much to handle. If you really think about it, this question could mean 2 different things. It's all about perception. The criminals are way smarter than you think. The way she was able to clock his quick snap, and say it like that, shows she is a person who is intelligent and observant.
@Jojojo474
@Jojojo474 11 күн бұрын
@@RakinHoda-yl5es yeah, i was confused about that, that wanted cops that cant fight back, so that can rule the streets without police intervention.
@throwaway2052
@throwaway2052 Жыл бұрын
i think no matter what side anyone is on, we can all agree this conversation was monitored poorly.
@TheStepmonkey
@TheStepmonkey Жыл бұрын
What side?? You think anyone should support criminals? That's disgusting...
@mesg4
@mesg4 Жыл бұрын
No it wasn't. Just because one side disagreed/was offended by prompts and hard conversations doesn't mean it was monitored poorly.
@iceywolf1
@iceywolf1 Жыл бұрын
​@TheStepmonkey What side? You think anyone should support cops? That's disgusting
@nataliahall236
@nataliahall236 Жыл бұрын
@@TheStepmonkey i support criminals
@lickmyloafbruh
@lickmyloafbruh Жыл бұрын
@@iceywolf1I like criminals, they liberate us
@lexibrowning7447
@lexibrowning7447 Жыл бұрын
Charlie is.... something. "If my daughter gets kidnapped, I'm not calling the police. I'm going to try to find her myself." As a daughter, please, dads, call the police if we get kidnapped.
@Andrina-fl9ef
@Andrina-fl9ef Жыл бұрын
Yeah, everyone hates on cops until they need them.
@ariestorres6713
@ariestorres6713 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he seemed very traumatized, understandably so- but I think he was talking more out of emotion than anything else. Especially saying he was addicted to the news, seeing as the news is geared and targeted to run one specific narrative. (I'm not with or against cops, just something I noticed about Charlie's narrative)
@akutenshi6946
@akutenshi6946 Жыл бұрын
Call the cops just for the sake of documenting everything, still go look for your daughter yourself
@ricotrejo4125
@ricotrejo4125 Жыл бұрын
For sure my thought, even though I can understand some of what he said, I mean I'm pretty sure that the situation you should call a cop
@lalaadams8487
@lalaadams8487 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Charlie was trippin' ha
@ItsMeDee3
@ItsMeDee3 Ай бұрын
I can see why Charlie is an ex-con. He is really childish and his conversation with everyone there is ignorant. He’ll be back in jail
@agentcodydanks
@agentcodydanks Ай бұрын
Facts
@jojocottrell0487
@jojocottrell0487 Ай бұрын
Its honestly sad how him and many others dont see how these 4 cops shouldn’t be generalized with all the bad ones, just as how the ex-felons shouldn’t be generalized with being bad people
@lisao6928
@lisao6928 19 күн бұрын
Agreed 💯
@honeybee4812
@honeybee4812 3 күн бұрын
Wtf kinda thought I’d that. He’s childish and ignorant- “it makes sense and he will be incarcerated again”.
@jbones2099
@jbones2099 3 күн бұрын
He wasn’t there to have a conversation, and he has no realistic concept of how society works. As soon as he started talking about, there should be no police at all, you could tell that his brain is not working at full capacity.
@legendary8838
@legendary8838 Ай бұрын
As a former officer myself it’s clear some of these people need to go on a ride along with their cities department to get a first hand view of how it really is. Taser’s, pepper spray isn’t always effective. And calling for back up can take minutes to arrive no matter how fast they drive and other countries don’t have the same level violence as here. Criminals will always find a way to get a gun so officers have to match the level of force against them
@jslaughterofthesoul4939
@jslaughterofthesoul4939 Ай бұрын
Don't need a ridealong, we actually live in our cities and we know what goes on. Civilians stop far more incidents than 🐷s
@legendary8838
@legendary8838 Ай бұрын
@@jslaughterofthesoul4939 then why are cops called if civilians stop more crime??? Civilians tend to not get involved because they don’t want to get themselves hurt or get retaliated against. Maybe here in Texas I can see civilians attempting to stop certain crimes because you never know what citizen is armed because you don’t need a license to conceal carry
@ZzzZ-sb9ju
@ZzzZ-sb9ju Ай бұрын
The black cop was so mean. “Not me just because it happened to you and other people but I don’t do it so it’s not valid.”
@jayhardline7557
@jayhardline7557 24 күн бұрын
​@ZzzZ-sb9ju Well it's not fair to be all stereotypical about it isn't it
@sprawlingman8277
@sprawlingman8277 6 күн бұрын
Oh boohoo, "You need to see how it really is." Stop looking for sympathy because your job is hard. Lots of jobs are much harder and far more dangerous. You chose the job knowing how dangerous it was. Criminals will always find a way to get a gun because there are so many guns available.
@user-ne5fz2jo3m
@user-ne5fz2jo3m Жыл бұрын
Uvalde was a TERRIBLE example on the cops behalf considering those cops had guns and still waited outside while children died
@heathertea2704
@heathertea2704 Жыл бұрын
FACTS!!!
@marioanddj
@marioanddj Жыл бұрын
but yea Uvalde's response was terrible
@dsong2006
@dsong2006 Жыл бұрын
what is the probability that #1 there is a civilian or multiple civilians with a gun, #2 he has the balls and the weapon capable of neutralizing the threat and #3 he has the training required to take this threat out without any collateral damage? I agree a lot police departments have handled similar situations horribly, but I still think the odds of ending these type of situations with the least number of casualties is higher when the police show up. Lets get out of emotions and try to rationalize this and rely more on data
@SillyBoneThugg
@SillyBoneThugg Жыл бұрын
True that was something he clearly didn't consider
@siiiiiuu7
@siiiiiuu7 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I get the point he was trying to make. Cops obviously need to be armed around dangerous individuals, but such a bad example to use.
@HopeWren
@HopeWren Жыл бұрын
Respectfully the moderator failed this middle ground. So much interrupting and talking over that had it been dealt with would’ve added to a much more helpful middle ground 😔
@aguy9071
@aguy9071 Жыл бұрын
She was scared because there was a lot of tension and power in that room.
@Artliker1234
@Artliker1234 Жыл бұрын
@@aguy9071 oh brother no 😂 she doesn't usually interrupt
@chaeryeong991
@chaeryeong991 Жыл бұрын
@@cedricdavis513 what does this gotta do with gender……. yall always bring gender into places where it doesnt fit
@fantasy-91
@fantasy-91 Жыл бұрын
@@cedricdavis513 ???????????
@debwilson1436
@debwilson1436 Жыл бұрын
@@cedricdavis513 please expand what you mean. Typical woman to this comment means nothing
@SparcReviews
@SparcReviews Ай бұрын
"Cops shouldn't be armed!" And you should be?
@funkunko
@funkunko Ай бұрын
no they shouldn’t be either… tf is your point
@leokashung3743
@leokashung3743 29 күн бұрын
​@@funkunkobut all American criminal have a gun so its would be foolish not to carry one as a cop
@haileyhraba1921
@haileyhraba1921 15 күн бұрын
Nobody should. That’s the point.
@theviewer4915
@theviewer4915 5 күн бұрын
You completely reject reality.
@elchuloeugene2568
@elchuloeugene2568 3 күн бұрын
In a perfect world cops shouldn’t have guns and citizens shouldn’t either but the world ain’t perfect so cops have to. And if we illegalize guns people will use them illegally anyway so there’s really nothing that can be done about them
@TheJhon65
@TheJhon65 Ай бұрын
Scar was the only ex convict that only let his experience with one minimally cloud the rest
@egghead1120
@egghead1120 3 күн бұрын
You heard him say he’s dealt with multiple cops
@DijonDonuts
@DijonDonuts 8 ай бұрын
Charlie is the epitome of why ex-convicts get a bad rep. He's ignorant, rude, and refuses to act like a civilian even in a setting where he isn't under distress or threat.
@bigtomDW
@bigtomDW 8 ай бұрын
Low IQ, hes just not that bright
@austin5950
@austin5950 7 ай бұрын
okay cat boy 😂
@DijonDonuts
@DijonDonuts 7 ай бұрын
@@austin5950Yes I do in fact like cats.
@MC_Smuv
@MC_Smuv 7 ай бұрын
Imagine yourself in a room with 4 people who represent a type of people that have wrongfully made your life hard hundreds, if not thousands, of times and then type that ignorant & rude comment again 😉
@HoangNguyen-hv1qy
@HoangNguyen-hv1qy 7 ай бұрын
​@@MC_SmuvCops make life hard for criminals.. 😂
@bradc9012
@bradc9012 9 ай бұрын
scar's life seemed like a sad result of racism and police abuse in previous eras, while charle's sad life a result of idiocy and bad decisions.
@skty1
@skty1 9 ай бұрын
ong
@jennifermcmillan9518
@jennifermcmillan9518 8 ай бұрын
I know. I just want to hug him.
@tristandimitrijev3195
@tristandimitrijev3195 8 ай бұрын
Bad culture up briging that led to cops to suspect on him, he sad becasue there is crime, if there were no crime, plice would have to be so harsh.Stop supporting you bro criminal.that is the message
@littledonut6994
@littledonut6994 8 ай бұрын
More like he started in the hood and didn’t chance who he hangs around.
@whythissucks829
@whythissucks829 8 ай бұрын
hopefully he doesnt have children
@chiannamanalo
@chiannamanalo 12 күн бұрын
I’d rather debate with a rock than Charlie. No brain cells.
@FlyingGuillotine
@FlyingGuillotine Ай бұрын
$1000 says all 4 of these convicts are far more naturally hostile in interactions with cops than they let on.
@lilsaint776
@lilsaint776 Ай бұрын
100% lol
@user-sx4ky1mt6z
@user-sx4ky1mt6z Ай бұрын
Scumbags for sure
@VGMO17
@VGMO17 Ай бұрын
$2000 that they're aggressive against normal civilians, because they have to feel tough
@KDA8919
@KDA8919 27 күн бұрын
4 stooges
@TSizzle07
@TSizzle07 3 күн бұрын
It's exactly that stereotypical predispositional mindset that's the problem. You don't give people a chance because you know them before you try to know them.... and here we are today
@beefy45
@beefy45 6 ай бұрын
How does Jubilee manage to always find someone that is insufferable
@nexusoflife
@nexusoflife 6 ай бұрын
They do it on purpose to create drama and drive up views.
@alcoholicbunny2649
@alcoholicbunny2649 6 ай бұрын
Nahhh this guy hella different. I could sit through and still listen to an insufferable person but he’s on another level. Omg it crazyyyy. I’m so ready to say everything that happened to him and well deserved and like I’m getting physically upset and it’s bad that I feel this way for a person in a video on the internet. But omg it ridiculous
@91toinfinity
@91toinfinity 6 ай бұрын
They do it on purpose to rile up emotions
@Corekidbeenybunny
@Corekidbeenybunny 6 ай бұрын
Which person?
@anna-blinks
@anna-blinks 5 ай бұрын
@@Corekidbeenybunny Charlie
@xanieyd1985
@xanieyd1985 9 ай бұрын
After hearing Charlie talk about the car scenario, I'm convinced that all his local cops know him and his history
@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat 9 ай бұрын
They probably popped popcorn and had a watch party at the station to hear Charlie finally get his shot to say his piece.
@tristandimitrijev3195
@tristandimitrijev3195 8 ай бұрын
the havaiian girl also
@beardedbros7215
@beardedbros7215 8 ай бұрын
My town has a family called the Seelingers. Meth family, domestic abuse, theft, assault. They’re known for causing trouble and being all around unrepentant and violent. No one I know has any sympathy for them. With a criminal record as long as that family’s, it’s hard to even want to have sympathy.
@quincyking010
@quincyking010 7 ай бұрын
my guess is that he is a habitual law breaker who is in the station every week based on his behavior and context from what he said
@davidpatterson3614
@davidpatterson3614 7 ай бұрын
The fact he absolutely refused to let the cop say anything shows there will never be a interaction that would be non confrontational.
@MikeyScott5C
@MikeyScott5C Ай бұрын
That Cop is a fool to keep bringing up Uvalde. The police did nothing, but stood there like some cowards.
@G59forlife.
@G59forlife. Ай бұрын
Yeah it’s a bad example but no way you seriously said “fool” ☠️
@G59forlife.
@G59forlife. Ай бұрын
Is bro in the 1700s?
@bradf9977
@bradf9977 Ай бұрын
They should be charged!!!
@jerbsherb4391
@jerbsherb4391 Ай бұрын
LMAO that's what I thought too. Those cops had the weapons and acted like complete cowards. They even stopped one of the cops who wanted to go into the room since his wife was a teacher.
@oklywright8886
@oklywright8886 Ай бұрын
@@bradf9977there’s an extremely high probability that you wouldn’t have done anything differently in their position. The overwhelming majority of our society nowadays are inherently cowardice. Which is exactly why you should have the utmost respect for the brave police who willingly put their lives on the line every single day.
@Mimi-girl
@Mimi-girl Ай бұрын
So officers without guns but the whole population with guns?? That’s crazy!
@funkunko
@funkunko Ай бұрын
no one should have guns PERIOD. that’s the entire point.
@arfhat89
@arfhat89 28 күн бұрын
@@funkunkoExcept the ex-convicts agreed with the second amendment.
@mik3191
@mik3191 15 күн бұрын
@@funkunko”The population who seeks complete peace and ignorance will have no peace”
@Khkh-bv5gf
@Khkh-bv5gf 14 күн бұрын
@@mik3191 where is this quote from?
@pointlessmike
@pointlessmike 6 күн бұрын
@@funkunko That's not a point, that's a fairy tale.
@QueensNYgirlie1988
@QueensNYgirlie1988 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how it took Scar to say he's done filming for them to stop talking over eachother. It calmed down so much after that.
@dani09eveline
@dani09eveline Жыл бұрын
He didn’t want to continue because the questions were confusing him. And they’re calm because they went on a smoke break
@Ayveh
@Ayveh Жыл бұрын
Seriously Jubilee did SUCH A HORRIBLE job in handling this video. They didn't step it and tell them to shut it and let the other side speak.
@tashboog5458
@tashboog5458 Жыл бұрын
@@dani09eveline yea confusion is not what he said, beloved. Replay that part.
@turnbasedtoddy7664
@turnbasedtoddy7664 Жыл бұрын
Alot of the questions are filmed out of order so you may be wrong
@drew9453
@drew9453 Жыл бұрын
@@turnbasedtoddy7664 I don't think it necessarily matters what order they filmed... the fact of the matter is that AT SOME POINT... Scar was irritated with the questions and how the conversations were being moderated. Plus, I don't even believe that it was actually filmed out of order and you're just saying how you think EVERY production operates. The types of questions that were asked and the order that they are in make PERFECT sense as to why they would have actually asked them in the order that they are in the video. Plus, if you really pay attention, there are a lot of moments that people bring up ideas that were spoken about in previous prompts. For example... the fact that they kept bringing up the women having been sexually assaulted. If the prompts were in a different order, they wouldn't have known that the women had those experiences or brought them up later in the video if they were out of order. Not to mention... they wouldn't have even PUT that clip of him saying he didn't want to continue if it wasn't being filmed in progressive order of the video. What would be the point?
@nambia2659
@nambia2659 Жыл бұрын
Scar tried to speak his points and opinions on each question and was continuously spoken over. Jubilee needs to step up more rather than letting people babble or ignore each other..
@TheStepmonkey
@TheStepmonkey Жыл бұрын
Scar is a moron
@lizard8694
@lizard8694 Жыл бұрын
There was one cop didn't even speak at all, did he?
@imHim710
@imHim710 Жыл бұрын
​@@lizard8694 he did but barely a few sentences
@_rufio116
@_rufio116 Жыл бұрын
@@imHim710 yea because scar was going off every time unlike how this original comment tried to claim
@rickyjoe3709
@rickyjoe3709 Жыл бұрын
nahh cus its cops, they dont want other people habing power over them so they talk over each other, ITS ALL ABOUT POWER TRIP
@jxflem5588
@jxflem5588 Ай бұрын
Donna has a very calm voice.i like when she talk they all just listen.its a healing calm voice she has a lot to give.
@ambertornatore6362
@ambertornatore6362 Ай бұрын
I actually thought she was the host
@dani_i8942
@dani_i8942 Ай бұрын
Too bad she spoke nonsense. Her saying policing criminals = slavery was wild.
@mattbudesa6351
@mattbudesa6351 Ай бұрын
No she doesn't. She speaks a bunch of nonsense.
@lauragarza6295
@lauragarza6295 Ай бұрын
She’s a healer. She has healing energy and I love that for her ♥️
@THOMPSON8787
@THOMPSON8787 Ай бұрын
She has a toxic victim mindset...which inherently carries a degree of racism and prejudice in it...and she has extremely narcissistic traits..Every single prompt she had to bring back to her situation..Lady..The world doesn't revolve around you..The world isn't a fair place and no one owes you understanding..We have to stop coddling this victim mindset..
@thehalcyonflight
@thehalcyonflight Ай бұрын
Here are some middle grounds that should be done: Criminal Lawyers vs Police Officers Criminal Lawyers vs Criminals
@kyraivy3737
@kyraivy3737 5 ай бұрын
THAT GIRL SAYING HE NEEDED TO HAVE MORE PATIENCE AFTER GETTING INTERRUPTED SEVERAL TIMES AFTER LETTING THE OTHER GUY SAY EVERYTHING HE NEEDED TO SAY SENT ME OVER THE EDGE
@hopxfu1657
@hopxfu1657 5 ай бұрын
istg charlie interrupting the cop being respectful made me so mad. like shush
@72horses75
@72horses75 4 ай бұрын
Jubilee literally encouraged it to!! they never intervened when he talked over him for a SOLID MINUTE, they only intervene when he points out that he wants an actual debate setting where he can TALK. EVEN THEN THEY LET CHARLIE CREATE AN ENTIRE ESSAY AND THEN SILENCE THE COP AND TELL HIM TO WAIT HIS TURN WHEN HE TRIES TO INTERJECT. not only THAT but they had the gal to move onto the next question ebfore even letting him finish. They handled this HORRIBLY, shame on jubilee.
@Frosty-Jacket
@Frosty-Jacket 4 ай бұрын
​@@72horses75 I've noticed @jubilee does this semi-often from the videos I've seen. They're trying to virtue signaling and it's super obvious to anyone with an above room temp. I.Q.
@user-mv4md6or7x
@user-mv4md6or7x 4 ай бұрын
Yes and no. He was getting hot and her point was look see
@MoeGoe-xt3en
@MoeGoe-xt3en 4 ай бұрын
​@@hopxfu1657Can you tag the timeline please.
@bryanzoom97
@bryanzoom97 Жыл бұрын
It was very clear that all the ex felons were severely traumatized it definitely felt like a third group was needed like maybe a non-criminal perspective
@elianamazurr.5722
@elianamazurr.5722 Жыл бұрын
If Jubilee has any money from this they should put it where their mouth is and put it towards organizations trying to heal this trauma and end police violence.
@monithebarbie
@monithebarbie Жыл бұрын
I am a non criminal and have the same perspective of the criminal side
@byrontownsel7274
@byrontownsel7274 Жыл бұрын
@@monithebarbie Cops shouldn’t have guns? You’re not to bright are you?
@ericsanchez7005
@ericsanchez7005 Жыл бұрын
@@byrontownsel7274 u never heard of non lethal guns
@MsRuntz
@MsRuntz Жыл бұрын
Most definitely, these are people who spent years in prisons and jails which at the bare minimum is severely traumatizing, whether you did something or not. They spoke about what the police did to them when they weren't even committing crimes! The police officers can sympathize with the convicts but definitely cannot empathize.
@mr.peepers2304
@mr.peepers2304 Ай бұрын
The older woman saying you are doing your job because the department tells you to is completely wrong, it's called laws that need to be followed by society. Why can't the people breaking the law understand they got caught and now you have to pay the penalty. Pretty simple, not cops looking to get you.
@user-im2nv9tj7q
@user-im2nv9tj7q Ай бұрын
No accountability by the criminals at all
@David-ol6zj
@David-ol6zj Ай бұрын
Or the other side
@bigSpidermanfan
@bigSpidermanfan Ай бұрын
@@David-ol6zjhow so
@lucasgeton9546
@lucasgeton9546 Ай бұрын
@@David-ol6zjjust a false statement, did you watch the video like at all?
@ZzzZ-sb9ju
@ZzzZ-sb9ju Ай бұрын
The black cop was so mean. “Not me just because it happened to you and other people but I don’t do it so it’s not valid.”
@THOMPSON8787
@THOMPSON8787 Ай бұрын
They suffer from the toxic victim mindset which plagues our society today..They are short-sighted and have no idea of how the world really functions..They live in a small selfish bubble and love to point fingers and blame everyone else for their willful ignorance and outright stupidity.. Btw I have done 7 years in prison and have seen both sides..
@charlesreed7663
@charlesreed7663 11 ай бұрын
Charlie judging everyone and not respecting people’s opinion but expects everyone to give him respect and not get judged. He drives me crazy
@badandboujee4087
@badandboujee4087 9 ай бұрын
He also looks like his breath stank
@-----GOD-----
@-----GOD----- 9 ай бұрын
How virtuous these criminals are. They have all the answers.
@ilovemountains21
@ilovemountains21 9 ай бұрын
And that’s the problem. He was so juvenile!! Still angry at the world instead of looking in. He was so cringe.
@jamesreagan8175
@jamesreagan8175 9 ай бұрын
​@@-----GOD----- To say nothing about the police; upholding a system which seeks punishment over rehabilitation makes you a dishonest coward when your slogan is to "serve and protect"
@candaceewell9582
@candaceewell9582 9 ай бұрын
As soon as Marlon was questioned he got upset... should not be a cop anywhere
@Naxatthedoor
@Naxatthedoor 7 ай бұрын
Not only does Charlie think a person with a badge shouldn’t ask him a single question but apparently he also thinks he’s Batman
@hueykraymond
@hueykraymond 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Oggg963
@Oggg963 6 ай бұрын
The Fifth Amendmen imbecile coward 😂
@peestrem31
@peestrem31 5 ай бұрын
yeah or the guy from Taken
@meekysenpai
@meekysenpai 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 he’s a character. Most of those “sovereign” citizens act like that too. As funny as it is, it’s really sad that an adult can CHOOSE to be like that.
@Naxatthedoor
@Naxatthedoor 5 ай бұрын
@@peestrem31 unfortunately for him, he’s neither a billionaire or an ex CIA agent 😂
@steelasura
@steelasura Ай бұрын
Convicts will talk all day about how they were wronged, dont hear any of those prof victims owning their crimes
@valentinademonte437
@valentinademonte437 Ай бұрын
I hate the fact that the cops tried to be understanding but the other just wanted to join this discussion to share their hate for them. They didnt try at all to understand their points or validate their points. They r living in their bubble and dont wanna see another perspective then theirs because they need someone to blame their problems on.
@LuZu_
@LuZu_ Жыл бұрын
Next time, Jubilee, intervene and show authority if you’re hosting a debate. There’s a difference between letting a feud resolve itself and letting someone take something completely off base/take over the topic.
@rainydayspecialinjuly
@rainydayspecialinjuly Жыл бұрын
agree.
@TwoGirlsOneMacBook
@TwoGirlsOneMacBook Жыл бұрын
100% agree! I usually enjoy jubilee videos but this one missed the mark completely as far as handling the interviewees and making sure everyone had a chance to speak
@87enoughBULL
@87enoughBULL Жыл бұрын
I couldn't finish watching this video. It was THAT bad.
@hollow9846
@hollow9846 Жыл бұрын
No, I enjoy the unfiltered discussions being taken. Middle ground used to be heavily edited, people have requested for this as it's counter-intuitive to edit/intervene in a discussion meant to show both sides.
@GothicTonic
@GothicTonic Жыл бұрын
I agree. If you, as a youtube channel, put together these debates, you have the responsibility to manage when someone interrupts someone else to the point where they cannot get their thoughts across. I swear, lately, I've felt that people like Charlie get away with these things in middle ground whereas in episodes before, it wasn't like this. I don't care who you are, everyone deserves a turn to speak, that's just human decency. Please guys, this is a great concept, I can't sit here and watch how people just don't have respect for other people's thoughts and views where they don't even allow them to speak. It's truly a miserable viewing experience.
@obinnaoguike2823
@obinnaoguike2823 Жыл бұрын
This seems more like a therapy session than a productive conversation.
@hatban_
@hatban_ Жыл бұрын
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 여기서 본 코멘트 중 가장
@Ookashay
@Ookashay Жыл бұрын
Obviously trying to have conversations with mentally immature felons won't be productive 🤣
@maebo2524
@maebo2524 Жыл бұрын
This was a rough one to watch. The whole conversation seemed to be based on emotions rather than facts, from both sides. Not the best casting on this one in my opinion.
@maka3230
@maka3230 Жыл бұрын
Still productive
@ambermartinez6587
@ambermartinez6587 Жыл бұрын
Healing is very productive
@fearreavers
@fearreavers Ай бұрын
When she talked about that one cop believing her that she was raped, what she is talking about needing is a peer advocate. We need more advocates.
@morales2018
@morales2018 Ай бұрын
This is what’s wrong with society, the officer was being respectful letting Charlie speak and then trying to answer and was being cut off but the lady instead of correcting the guys bad behavior of interrupting she automatically tells the cop that’s not even in uniform or on the job that he should have more patience. Yes instead of correcting someone bad behavior we should all just have more patience.
@theforgottenone666
@theforgottenone666 9 ай бұрын
I think we can all agree that Charlie is the only dude there not ready to talk about and make a change. Dudes part of the problem.
@akosnemeth
@akosnemeth 9 ай бұрын
I felt the same sometimes with Scar.
@whythissucks829
@whythissucks829 8 ай бұрын
hes not part of the problem, he IS the problem. IQ of a banana.
@shawnrutherford8523
@shawnrutherford8523 8 ай бұрын
@@akosnemeth and Bonnie
@PunoBendito
@PunoBendito 7 ай бұрын
Every convict but Donna was a waste of a spot in this conversation
@juancoronado3736
@juancoronado3736 7 ай бұрын
@@PunoBenditofor sure, Donna is the only one who bothered to listen to a different point of view
@hayesp0706
@hayesp0706 Жыл бұрын
charlie the type of person to still argue even when he knows he’s wrong
@Ian-uo2mj
@Ian-uo2mj Жыл бұрын
the type of person? He IS the exact person. That's all he did the entire episode
@samisugarcube
@samisugarcube Жыл бұрын
@@Ian-uo2mj he was irritating me... ugh
@Daniel-ye6cl
@Daniel-ye6cl Жыл бұрын
BRO I hated him what an ignorant mf.
@UndeadD0ctor
@UndeadD0ctor Жыл бұрын
@@samisugarcube I just started this video and I’m about 2 mins in. I’m gonna reply on my opinions on that guy after I’m done
@catxj9
@catxj9 Жыл бұрын
Dan I don’t see Abby in the comments 😂😂
@shaungandy2287
@shaungandy2287 Ай бұрын
He wants VENGEANCE not justice. BIG DIFFERENCE
@IvanVujica-CertifiedTrainer
@IvanVujica-CertifiedTrainer Ай бұрын
gosh it was so hard to rationalize and understand these criminal's "arguments", and the way they generalized in their accusations
@hikarichoichiro5557
@hikarichoichiro5557 4 ай бұрын
If you told me that Charlie's just playing, that he's just an actor, I would have believed you. Dude's straight up detached from the society.
@Unpolarised
@Unpolarised 3 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I’m not trying to be insensitive but he’s either a complete moron or a plant from the producers
@theescapistpoet
@theescapistpoet 3 ай бұрын
He's got victim mentality
@aergia.anergia
@aergia.anergia 3 ай бұрын
He legit was pissing me off
@Anti-feminist87
@Anti-feminist87 3 ай бұрын
Some people don't want to listen. They just want you to hear their "truth". It gets us no where.
@bedlfit2198
@bedlfit2198 3 ай бұрын
Charlie is on the criminal panel for a reason… dude needs to wake up.
@RBubbles202
@RBubbles202 Жыл бұрын
Hey Jubilee. This type of discussion needs a facilitator. This conversation was so important and could have been so much more effective with a strong facilitator directing the discussion. Thank you to each side for being vulnerable and sharing their experiences.
@jeangarcia6432
@jeangarcia6432 Жыл бұрын
Lol the guy in the blue jacket cant stop being a cop for 2 mins and it shows from 53:40 forward this was perfect it shows that cops ain't shet and that's what slot of people don't like about it they were hoping it would show something else😂
@troyd.8718
@troyd.8718 Жыл бұрын
I understand your reasoning for more facilitation but what I like about MG, is that they allow people to navigate through the tough conversations themselves. Even if the conversation “fails” so to speak, you still see a lot of truth in those moments.
@benjaminasmus3980
@benjaminasmus3980 Жыл бұрын
​@@troyd.8718 Nah they need someone to moderate straight up lies and and all the interrupting
@damowater2962
@damowater2962 Жыл бұрын
The cops were disingenuous
@johnilyemson
@johnilyemson Жыл бұрын
They don't give a fck how their content impacts the lives of people as long as it gets clicks.
@Do27gg
@Do27gg 13 күн бұрын
You can see the reason a lot of these people have trouble with the police, can tell they’re trying to antagonise the cops
@user-st3zg6fk5n
@user-st3zg6fk5n 10 күн бұрын
criminals speaking like the biggest victims in the room , blaming and showing very similar cognitive distortions .
@josephcokermusic
@josephcokermusic 5 ай бұрын
Tell the worlds longest scenario about a traffic incident, cop goes to answer, interrupt him til he stops talking “wow you cops need more patience” lol
@BlurredUniverse357
@BlurredUniverse357 4 ай бұрын
I laughed at that.
@rainwhenidie6666
@rainwhenidie6666 3 ай бұрын
In a normal world yes thats crazy. The thing is though that makes her point valid is they are supposed to be held to a higher standard. They are supposed to be "trained" in de-escalation. That officer was trying to insert his dominance over that kid. He went so far as to look at the producers and knock him down a step. Believe it or not this is a very common behavior in police officers. Im in belief that cops are important but we are people too. Treat us that way.
@Unpolarised
@Unpolarised 3 ай бұрын
@@rainwhenidie6666you’re blinded by your unwillingness to see the other side. He’s a human being who was being talked to like a child.. an officer not in an official setting (i.e. on a traffic stop) is not expected to be a perfect human being. Zoom out and look at both sides
@rainwhenidie6666
@rainwhenidie6666 3 ай бұрын
Ditto
@SARGER5
@SARGER5 3 ай бұрын
@@rainwhenidie6666 so how long was he supposed to go on trying to answer the question and being told you're not answering my question and being interrupted? 15 times? 20 times? 3 million times?
@Forester-
@Forester- 7 ай бұрын
When Charlie revealed himself as a sovereign citizen I immediately understood his entire history with the police
@jasl9987
@jasl9987 7 ай бұрын
Lmao exactly
@michaelmitchel3471
@michaelmitchel3471 7 ай бұрын
What's that?
@Forester-
@Forester- 7 ай бұрын
@@michaelmitchel3471 Basically people who don't think a bunch of laws apply to them such as needing a driver's license, insurance, license plate, or vehicle registration to drive on the road.
@michaelmitchel3471
@michaelmitchel3471 7 ай бұрын
@@Forester- oh thanks
@ripn929707
@ripn929707 6 ай бұрын
Charlie is more than just a sovereign citizen, he's an anarchist. I've met several in my travels, and they all seem to have this pie in the sky idea that humans are capable of policing themselves. They think we dont need agencies like the EPA, FDA, and the like. It's a total fantasy concept the completely ignored the factors of human greed and the all of the evils that men have done throughout history that brought on the need for these agencies.
@mrbald9537
@mrbald9537 Ай бұрын
All the convicts just comes off as bitter for their crimes
@gazpod2223
@gazpod2223 28 күн бұрын
The editing on this is crazy. I can’t even follow the conversation with all the cherry picking editing jubilee does.
@lionsareblue8421
@lionsareblue8421 Жыл бұрын
this has to be the worst middle ground yet, they were allowed to stray so far off topic basically negating the prompts
@llvb420
@llvb420 Жыл бұрын
I think the promps need to be better as well its very vague and sometimes so leading
@lilygirllove
@lilygirllove Жыл бұрын
Honestly. I haven’t even finished the video and I can feel the energy. They need the mediator to be more present and need to help stay on focus, most importantly respect each other…
@rosemadder5547
@rosemadder5547 Жыл бұрын
I think that that is what breeds new perspectives and new thoughts and ideas, personally
@jideo.4832
@jideo.4832 Жыл бұрын
But this isn't a problem they have had before. With people like Scar and Charlie always off
@lionsareblue8421
@lionsareblue8421 Жыл бұрын
@@rosemadder5547 no it leads to them dancing around questions and not actually answering anything
@camilenauta5816
@camilenauta5816 Жыл бұрын
when the participants are asking for moderation because they can't get a word out and try to leave because of how hostile everything has become, that's how you know it's gone too far. when the premise of the show begins with two groups at odds with one another-- and especially this episode since you're already starting with a power dynamic, there really needs to be more active moderation and intention behind the prompts/production imo
@jordandudley8040
@jordandudley8040 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree with you, Camile. This conversation needed a lot more consideration bc it’s too intense of a debate.
@QRSTUVe
@QRSTUVe Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, well said.
@samferrell7757
@samferrell7757 Жыл бұрын
No he tried to leave because he's not educated enough for the debate "I'm trying to get my point across that fck the police you know what I mean" very sophisticated perspective.
@harushdesign
@harushdesign Жыл бұрын
So more policing. Got it.
@danliness5455
@danliness5455 Жыл бұрын
It's funny cause the person complaining that they couldn't get a word in was constantly cutting people off mid-sentence to get his own word in, like the video was only about him and his experiences.
@dandnoutdoors3778
@dandnoutdoors3778 2 ай бұрын
These ex convicts are delusional
@swagdonor2357
@swagdonor2357 Ай бұрын
Especially Charlie. Probably an illegal
@christiaanpittman6256
@christiaanpittman6256 28 күн бұрын
Shorty said poverty is a crime🤣 love how ex cons are mad bc they ex cons💀
@TheMusic2007
@TheMusic2007 9 ай бұрын
Charlie is a prime example of what nonsense cops deal with.
@ds82wrestling
@ds82wrestling 9 ай бұрын
Charlie is almost certainly guilty and triggered. Who wants to bet when he was stopped by a cop it was because he had committed a crime?
@speclt
@speclt 9 ай бұрын
I don’t get it.
@volslover1504
@volslover1504 9 ай бұрын
Charlie has been brainwashed over time. It's easy to see. You can tell him that he has been programmed.
@empiretradingacademy3866
@empiretradingacademy3866 9 ай бұрын
100%
@thegrabbindragon9834
@thegrabbindragon9834 9 ай бұрын
Charlie is a clown . He’s probably the type to have a gun while telling the cops not to have a gun.
@vivian5578
@vivian5578 Жыл бұрын
you can tell how far scar has come just by how vulnerable he allows himself to be in this episode
@Im-Ekko
@Im-Ekko 11 ай бұрын
So true
@rickgold4854
@rickgold4854 9 ай бұрын
He is a child.
@TheSakufighter
@TheSakufighter 9 ай бұрын
@@rickgold4854 being real is not childish. Sorry you’re weak.
@bjstengel
@bjstengel 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I respect and like this guy because he is so honest and open.
@illicitbike2782
@illicitbike2782 9 ай бұрын
​@@TheSakufighterThere's a difference between being real and whatever scar is doing. Scar is projecting what happened to him to the cops in the video and pushing it to others outside and in general. If he was being real then he wouldn't project and keep levelheaded. I'm against cops but what Scar was doing isn't real and is childish
@jbones2099
@jbones2099 3 күн бұрын
I like how the guy with the head tattoos admits that he used to be extremely aggressive to cops, loud and abusive, and then wants to be a victim
@daniel-san7
@daniel-san7 5 ай бұрын
Wild AF that Charlie interrupted Marlon over and over again causing him to be visibly frustrated and instead of checking Charlie, the ex-cons started telling Marlon that he needs to stay calm. The lack of self-awareness and accountability is appalling
@aergia.anergia
@aergia.anergia 3 ай бұрын
Charlie is the reason why things escalate without needing it to be
@allupelailee
@allupelailee 3 ай бұрын
gaslighting at its finest
@manassehdouglas5968
@manassehdouglas5968 3 ай бұрын
I mean the way i see it the ex convicts all did things to land them up in prison. These people obviously have some problems and you can visibly see this manifest throughout the video. The guy walking out, charlie i mean like seriously
@blake3445
@blake3445 2 ай бұрын
This is valid. Charlie 100% was being an a**hole. In the same breath, this is a profession that Requires a great deal of patience. And if you can’t manage it, it’s truly not the role for you.
@tima5033
@tima5033 2 ай бұрын
That jabroni is seriously bringing up Uvalde as an example of needing police?! They wouldn’t go inside to help and stopped parents from going in and helping. Absolutely embarrassing
@edwardgraftonhilliii7270
@edwardgraftonhilliii7270 3 ай бұрын
Charlie has got to be the most insufferable, childish, ignorant person. He is so comfortable accusing those cops who wanted to have a genuine conversation, as if they did wrong to him personally. It was really frustrating to see how respectful these cops were, while these people just treated them so poorly.
@Ryzan562
@Ryzan562 Ай бұрын
He’s a professional victim.
@nathanhale9389
@nathanhale9389 Ай бұрын
Just because he smoke weed at 13. Like dawg your 13. Now getting punched in the chest is extreme but the cop knew you weren’t gonna speak up. But that’s your own fault for not speaking up after while in court or the many of times you’ve talked to your family or lawyer.
@averagezyzzenjoyer5630
@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 Ай бұрын
Hes obviously deeply taumatised.
@diegomontoya172
@diegomontoya172 Ай бұрын
@@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 nah just a division 1 victim
@averagezyzzenjoyer5630
@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 Ай бұрын
@@diegomontoya172 your a child you've got no idea.
@some-guy-out-there-
@some-guy-out-there- 28 күн бұрын
I love the back and forth and hearing different perspectives! So refreshing in a world where algorithms create echo chambers! Even if you disagree it's great to understand the other side and find common ground. This is what we need more of! Can't believe KZfaq hasn't showed me this channel for years and years! Now that I've found it, I can't get enough!
@Pete-gx4fz
@Pete-gx4fz Ай бұрын
Convicted felons don't agree with cops being allowed to have guns. That's all I heard for an hour. Oh, and that there should be squads of armed police officers waiting in the wings to take on armed criminals...because armed criminals announce they are armed and politely wait for the unarmed police to get to safety while waiting for the armed police to arrive.
@LudlowSRK
@LudlowSRK Жыл бұрын
Charlie the type of guy to rob someone and then wonder why he's going to jail.
@jake.porter
@jake.porter Жыл бұрын
he’s the type of person to rob someone, get caught, and blame the person he just jacked because they just happened to be there
@LudlowSRK
@LudlowSRK Жыл бұрын
@@jake.porter Fact
@faustianfellaheen
@faustianfellaheen Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the progressive utopia
@Zachary_Pacheco
@Zachary_Pacheco Жыл бұрын
That’s a fact lol
@isaacquesada6248
@isaacquesada6248 Жыл бұрын
Nah facts
@viccigraham
@viccigraham 9 ай бұрын
I found it interesting that the convicts say they judge all cops with the same mistrust as they have learned from previous encounters while also thinking no cop should judge any of them with the same mistrust they have learned from previous encounters.
@vodking
@vodking 8 ай бұрын
Yep
@MC_Smuv
@MC_Smuv 7 ай бұрын
It's their job to be neutral!! They get paid for that!! The other side is in no way bound to any kind of neutrality towards the cops. Especially with all they've been through.
@EMMAMUNOZ-id1bg
@EMMAMUNOZ-id1bg 7 ай бұрын
@@MC_Smuv What do you mean by neutrality?
@comosellama548
@comosellama548 7 ай бұрын
I empathize traumas of ex-convicts with the system and bad cops, but with their logic of generalizing, basically stereotypes of all isms like racism, sexism, ageism would be justified💔❤️‍🩹
@jan-3356
@jan-3356 7 ай бұрын
@@EMMAMUNOZ-id1bg he means that it's the cops' job to ensure the safety and protect the people, not assume every one of them walking around is a threat that needs to be intimidated and yelled at or need have a gun pointed at their heads. It's not the civillian's job to do anything, they can assume all they want about cops but cops have certain responsibilities in place, often ones they break and don't get punished for. all of these people in the comments are promoting tyranny and are blind in how justice works.
@cjay3330
@cjay3330 Ай бұрын
These are the kinds of conversations we need to be having! I love seeing Cops and Criminals just having necessary conversations and being respectful.
@la0346
@la0346 Ай бұрын
I respect cops a lot more now seeing how they have deal with criminals such as Charlie. He is pure a Narcissist and a professional victim.
@marvinmiller2983
@marvinmiller2983 Жыл бұрын
Jubilee needs to do a better job at handling these conversations. If people are talking over each other, tell them to stop. If they’re going in circles, it’s someone’s turn to talk, or time to move to the next prompt. Overall, I think you guys need to control these discussions better so everyone can talk and hopefully no one tries to leave again.
@joeymurillo4203
@joeymurillo4203 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting if they had a mediator
@yoshipapi7880
@yoshipapi7880 Жыл бұрын
@@joeymurillo4203it actually shows a lack of emotional intelligence
@TheGamerbroski
@TheGamerbroski 11 ай бұрын
What they need see a psychological analysis/specialist to know when the tension is happens a bit too many times it occurred in these very hot sensitive conversations that in deep careful analysis and patience with mutual respect shown; okay show a lil to show people how the public is but can be bad and dangerous if it lasts to long as it was shown bit too many times and too long in critical moments of their person experiences
@whengchung90
@whengchung90 10 ай бұрын
Drama reels in views, it's that simple
@calli8891
@calli8891 9 ай бұрын
no? why would they censor it it’s supposed to be where both sides 100% honest and give there opinion
@nicology13
@nicology13 8 ай бұрын
“Policing is necessary, but it depends on how you police.” That was powerful Ms. Donna.
@SoundSpeeds
@SoundSpeeds Күн бұрын
Police have to follow rules. Criminals don't follow any. Police are already at a disadvantage in the situation.
@lf8893
@lf8893 Ай бұрын
when bonnie said her crime was not justifiable about 26 minutes in. I got major respect for that woman because it sounds like she took 100% responsibility for her actions and did not justify them. from what I can tell, she was a drug dealer, and she did it because she was hungry, but she was taking accountability for it knowing there was another way for her to make that money and that she didn't have to be a drug dealer. but then the cops go on and try to justify the crimes for her, yeah, they said they would still punish her, but it sounds like the cops do more mental gymnastics to justify crimes than Bonnie, the convicted felon. She 100 % took accountability and didn't make excuses for herself. What a Woman!!!
@MargaretCutt-um8iq
@MargaretCutt-um8iq Ай бұрын
yet Bonnie was talking about her distrust of police that she had interactions with throughout the country... .sorry...she made her mistake and went to jail........and learned nothing and continued to commit crimes all over. smh.
@Valscorn01
@Valscorn01 21 күн бұрын
@@MargaretCutt-um8iqcharges for drugs really shouldn’t even exist. If you want to do tranq or fentanyl and overdose yourself go for it.
@AuntieGigiAnn
@AuntieGigiAnn 2 ай бұрын
Retired LEO. I can tell you, with complete truthfulness, people like Charlie are not an anomaly. Cops deal with that level of absurd ignorance, from criminals and non criminals alike, daily.
@alphabettown04
@alphabettown04 2 ай бұрын
Ohhh poor you
@samstromberg5593
@samstromberg5593 2 ай бұрын
@@alphabettown04Wow I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an eloquent counter argument I mean you really did just shatter his whole worldview and leave him no opportunity for rebuttal His point was that maybe there’s a reason cops go into encounters with little patience
@alphabettown04
@alphabettown04 2 ай бұрын
@@samstromberg5593 it’s KZfaq, you dunce. I’m not a debate bro trying to change anyone’s worldview. Just felt like clowning on him a bit kinda how I’m clowning on you too rn.
@video631king
@video631king 2 ай бұрын
Charlie was the worst. Most annoying person to ever see on this show. There was some real ignorant annoying people that appeared on this series and the KZfaq platform… but I must say… Charlie is competing for the gold trophy of “special”.
@laurencameron3150
@laurencameron3150 Ай бұрын
And people deal with bad cops on a daily! 😂 Civilian and cops are having the same experiences
@xgfreedom
@xgfreedom 10 ай бұрын
As a Korean living in the states, ex convicts not wanting cops to handle firearm using other countries where cops do not carry guns while respecting 2nd amendments baffles me. Yes, cops from my home country does not carry firearms but that is because we DO NOT have firearm incidents. However, in the states cops do not have that luxury.
@ThisIsMyAlt0
@ThisIsMyAlt0 9 ай бұрын
For real. We've had school shootings 28 times out of the 36 weeks we've had this year. Prohibiting cops from lethal force against someone actively firing with thousands of targets is insanity. I've had 2 friends this year who've been in school shootings and they're alive because of cops with firearms.
@leia7190
@leia7190 9 ай бұрын
Thats why America needs to implement strict gun laws.
@jamesreagan8175
@jamesreagan8175 9 ай бұрын
"You need guns to combat guns" then get rid of the guns and you won't have that problem. The most popular argument against this (the black market) is silly as the black market exists all over the world and yet somehow there are no where near as many school shootings anywhere else in the western world than America, where guns seem to be basically handed out to its citizens. Why are there so many mass shootings?
@rickmin3566
@rickmin3566 9 ай бұрын
Cops in S. Korea do carry guns. They carry modified .38 revolvers. But are not as equipped as American Police officers.
@xgfreedom
@xgfreedom 9 ай бұрын
@@rickmin3566 They are allowed to but most of the times they do not except for the special occasions.
@unkownquantity4949
@unkownquantity4949 Ай бұрын
I believe Scar's physical appearance may be something that puts an officer on high alert because it is in line with a hispanic criminal stereotype.
@thetoaster1810
@thetoaster1810 Ай бұрын
Not really a stereotype when he actually looks like that and has that behaviour of a criminal.
@unkownquantity4949
@unkownquantity4949 Ай бұрын
@@thetoaster1810 it can be both a stereotype AND true. A stereotype doesn't stop being one when you present an example of the exact reason for it.
@sparkyyoung73
@sparkyyoung73 2 ай бұрын
"Policing is necessary?" really? everyone in the world should be stepping forward for this one. I can only wish I lived in a world where policing was not necessary. If you would not have stepped forward just think how bad things would be. just give it a tiny bit of thought.
@doobieddooo
@doobieddooo Жыл бұрын
Donna was essential to this. She always reset the tone and pace of the conversation.
@godsend877
@godsend877 Жыл бұрын
her voice calmed me down
@101Navyseals
@101Navyseals Жыл бұрын
Because she’s lying?
@davidjones595
@davidjones595 Жыл бұрын
She comes over as a moderator
@elizabethfunes8435
@elizabethfunes8435 Жыл бұрын
@@101Navyseals what did she lie on?
@Scrappy_ill_fold_ya_Doo
@Scrappy_ill_fold_ya_Doo Жыл бұрын
​@@davidjones595 don't disrespect her like that 😂
@hearthels
@hearthels Жыл бұрын
i was literally praying that scar didn’t leave😭after he came back, hearing what he had to say was so relieving
@angcar337
@angcar337 Ай бұрын
I find it counter productive that ex convicts are trying to tell law enforcement how to do their job.
@teenychristinee
@teenychristinee Ай бұрын
I back the blue.
@Looey222
@Looey222 Жыл бұрын
Scar did point out a flaw in the uvalde thing when the cop was listing school shootings, he tried to speak up that they happened despite armed cops being there, but was interrupted. This episode was really good, but could've had some more mediating from the jubilee team to make sure everyone gets a chance to speak their mind.
@achillessong
@achillessong Жыл бұрын
The mods were not going to check a room full of cops and ex cons. 😂
@kaylao.3326
@kaylao.3326 Жыл бұрын
Jubilee actually displayed that info on the screen when the cop was speaking on it (that armed cops did nothing during the killings)
@gwenrichard7507
@gwenrichard7507 Жыл бұрын
Uvalde was stopped by a ICE officer and the cops were told to WAIT for swat. It was the perfect example of what waiting for help looks like.
@Zero-ln7ru
@Zero-ln7ru Жыл бұрын
Absolutely not, I love when it’s not mediated as much, I want them to genuinely speak as much as possible
@Looey222
@Looey222 Жыл бұрын
@@kaylao.3326 Yes, but scar and the others probably didn't see that. I mostly think he just should've gotten a chance to speak during that conversation
@reeree1924
@reeree1924 7 ай бұрын
Charlie’s whole thought process is so cringe. He didn’t even have the decency to let anyone speak. I had such a hard time finishing the video because of him . Great job Jubilee
@Forester-
@Forester- 7 ай бұрын
He outed himself as a sovereign citizen that explained everything to me
@Watchingvids01
@Watchingvids01 6 ай бұрын
@@Forester-i felt that too
@Matt-zp1jn
@Matt-zp1jn 5 ай бұрын
The overtalking by everyone, NEEDS a 3rd party to referee things unbiasedly. Charlie the guest was overtalking more than anyone, as well as others to varying degrees too, BUT there is little to almost ZERO proactive mediation evidence by the Jubilee show “Host” to keep things on track, except when things are ALREADY getting out of hand. The Jubilee Host needs, the skills to verbally quell tensions BEFORE they get out of hand, recognize the Triggering behaviours on both sides that can naturally and justifiably come out of escalating situations such as these very polarizing talk shows/discussions. Jubilee NEEDS more, than just some host-Director and a camera person only asking the main questions and then being absolutely silent to watch things head into train wreck breakdowns in everything. The Jubilee “Host” was weak, in acting many times during this episode BEFORE things headed into more volitile situations and seemed to be just letting everything escalate just for “TV Show entertainment DRAMA”, like this show tends to do all too often, for clicks/views/Likes, etc. WEAK administration by Jubilee, in effectively handling BOTH sides when there clearly needed the 3rd party host acting as the “IMPARTIAL” mediator to step in to communicate things back on track from side tangents, or set the grounds rules of respectful and balanced talk/listen, question/answer type discourse. “Jubilee, don’t let this haphazard Hosting continue without a proper interviewer/supportive counselor or communications specialist to be there to intervene at a moments notice if need be. “ A future physical disruption, where a guest or someone SNAPS on another, or the group, staff, or whatever will eventually grow out of these WEAKLY mediated episodes as unfortunate as that would be. Just because the cameras filming are rolling, don’t think nothing will happen, that is unwise thinking or preparation…
@CruzLegend3
@CruzLegend3 5 ай бұрын
Same. I paused it a few times because I was getting irritated how he continued to cut people off and talk over them, not allowing them to make their point when they were granting him, that respect of allowing him to give his perspective. He was ridiculous.
@JoThomas-mc7xb
@JoThomas-mc7xb 4 ай бұрын
Omg thank you so much and because of you imma finish this bc facts watching him is hard
@thesillygirlz100
@thesillygirlz100 8 күн бұрын
“I don’t enjoy conflict” decide on a profession that is centered around conflict 😂
@ailenehuston1650
@ailenehuston1650 Ай бұрын
What a great conversation. We need to speak to each other more and realize that we are more alike than different. I was arrested twice and the first time i was 18 and guilty and i was treated with empathy and respect and the second time i was pregnant and was with someone who was falsely accused of something. the cop had me in tears because of how cruel he was. I was completely cooperative and even was stripped search naked 7 months pregnant. Was told that i would be a terrible mom and my daughter had no chance. After they realized i didnt do anything i was kick out the station traumatized, embarrassed with no way home. I was 3 years in college for my bachelor's degree and completely law abiding. It still angers me to think about it.
@hankt51
@hankt51 9 ай бұрын
I can see why Charlie would have bad experiences with anyone. At around 29:50 when Marlon is trying to explain what he would have done Charlie keeps interrupting him, talking over him, and generally being disrespectful. Charlie was able to go through his whole broke-down car, flat tire scenario but wouldn't even let Marlon respond. Jubilee needs to do a better job of allowing the other side to respond. Respect goes both ways regardless of who you are talking to.
@ds82wrestling
@ds82wrestling 9 ай бұрын
I'm sure his interactions went the same way with the cops he encountered on the streets, too.
@johngorman1219
@johngorman1219 9 ай бұрын
Their attitudes obviously led them in to their incarceration.
@cristianfilmz24
@cristianfilmz24 9 ай бұрын
@@ds82wrestlingthese specific cops weren’t the ones who mishandled this gentlemen. Yet he still disrespects, interrupts and rejects to even listen to the other side. How can he want to reach middle ground(I hope everyone is) if he doesn’t even want to listen to the other side?
@ds82wrestling
@ds82wrestling 9 ай бұрын
@@cristianfilmz24 I 100% agree. That's what I am saying, he is hostile here, I am sure he was hostile to any officers on the street as well. Probably even more so.
@gosarcasm
@gosarcasm 9 ай бұрын
bro literally made the whole story up lmao
@Forbestravels
@Forbestravels Жыл бұрын
Charlie was the hardest one to watch didn’t answer ONE question and acted petty with with one cop and literally tried to turn the other convicts on the black cop
@Boken123
@Boken123 Жыл бұрын
yeah, no wonder he is a criminal
@ClaytonAFoster
@ClaytonAFoster Жыл бұрын
He was really annoying and thought he knew what he was talking about.
@paulcastle7007
@paulcastle7007 Жыл бұрын
The guy wouldn't let anyone else talk. I'm surprised the moderator didn't step in when he got heated
@furikagi
@furikagi Жыл бұрын
Charlie’s response to the policing prompt is telling. He’s someone that doesn’t want to be held accountable for any of his actions. Simply put: he doesn’t like being told what to do.
@kaylao.3326
@kaylao.3326 Жыл бұрын
He has a reason to feel the way he does. He’s Hispanic. They’re the second largest ethnic group of people (aside from black folks) to be profiled and harassed by cops, especially in places like Texas, Cali and NYC
@richriver5336
@richriver5336 6 күн бұрын
Bald cop has an air that wreaks of superiority and arrogance. He talks like a cop who wants to arrest you but doesn’t have articulate suspicion.
@matthewnorris203
@matthewnorris203 Ай бұрын
Great Conversation. Very needed.
@toajay1816
@toajay1816 Жыл бұрын
This was tough to watch primarily because charlie was so absolutely closed minded it was hard to really reach any sort of middle ground when ever he put his two cents in
@ApocPurpill
@ApocPurpill 11 ай бұрын
wasn't any single persons fault
@10101funday
@10101funday 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes there isn't going to be a middle ground and that is okay
@anmahek
@anmahek 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like he's really hurt, and it seems to me he first needs empathy before he can empathize with others.
@raw_oyster
@raw_oyster 10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed hearing his perspective and experience
@jackthomas6952
@jackthomas6952 10 ай бұрын
He’s another in a long line of idiots with no acknowledgement of personal responsibility
@marine296
@marine296 7 ай бұрын
Listening to Charlie speak, constantly interrupt and be disrespectful makes me want to bash my head into a wall. Scar and Charlie both have very similar views, but scar goes about it respectfully, while Charlie just channels his immaturity and just plays the blame game. We need the police but we also need to hold them all accountable.
@72horses75
@72horses75 4 ай бұрын
Jubilee encouraged this. This guy kept talking over the cop the whole time no one did anything, then one of the ladies were saying how he should have more patience when this guy is CONSTANTLY talking over him in a debate and not even letting him speak. THEN they let him spew a whole essay and whenever the cop tries to even interject the host tells him hold on and then they dont even show his opinion and move onto the next slide. This is ridiculous and unfair when this is supposed to be midddle ground. The cop literally had to ask them to step in and when they did they stepped in to silence the cop!
@kennedygilyard3822
@kennedygilyard3822 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t like the Jubilee only had questions that were centered around the cops but not around the ex-convicts. It made the whole video seem like they were bashing on the cops. I agree with some of the criminal but they aren’t innocent in the blame game
@danielsanchez-ep6ud
@danielsanchez-ep6ud 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Charlie annoyed me when he speaks like you talked now let other speak
@tylerl3510
@tylerl3510 4 ай бұрын
Charlie is ignorant af. He hasn't had a rough life the guys a clown
@rachelmazza4079
@rachelmazza4079 3 ай бұрын
This. And Jubilee encouraged it for views 🙄
@Contextual_Christian_Church
@Contextual_Christian_Church Ай бұрын
The amount of lying and overall deceiving false equivalence from both sides is crazzzzzzy
@nahumbenitez9186
@nahumbenitez9186 13 күн бұрын
Charlie’s level of delusion of so worrying it’s funny 😭😂😂
@brandoncrain3818
@brandoncrain3818 8 ай бұрын
Charlie is just an example someone who feels they should do whatever they want
@gregap8282
@gregap8282 8 ай бұрын
not really, someone with eyes can see and understand where Charlie's coming from
@agustinjr.enriquez6238
@agustinjr.enriquez6238 8 ай бұрын
@@gregap8282Charlie wants to be heard but doesn’t want to listen, there’s bad cops and there’s bad people.
@JuliusCheeser223
@JuliusCheeser223 7 ай бұрын
​@agustinjr.enriquez6238 The excuse of "there's bad cops" is so lame, the system is broken. The system was built around slave catchers. The system has failed the average person so many times
@matthewhoward7384
@matthewhoward7384 7 ай бұрын
​@@gregap8282 Yes but his points are so futile and can be easily seen as nonsense. His reasoning for these points based on past trauma is very real and I empathize. But when faced with the question of being hyprocritical, he agrees knowing his point is so invalid, but still tries to impose it otherwise. I think the biggest point in this whole video was the black cop saying " Just like how you don't want to be discriminated against because of bad things other people did, I dont want to be judged by the offenses other cops have made " Its really a big circle and the traumas that happen on both sides will keep it spinning. But people like charlie that insinuate hypocrisy and hate all because of few, we will never get anywhere. Same goes for cops who do the same thing
@user-oe9wb4dm7v
@user-oe9wb4dm7v 6 ай бұрын
​@@gregap8282we see where Charlie is coming from but anyone with eyes can see what kind of guy Charlie is. He's an instigator who loves to start drama and play victim later.
@Asian_Kid
@Asian_Kid 23 күн бұрын
Charlie's telling his story like it was that specific cop who came to help him
@sokofilmsnyc
@sokofilmsnyc 3 күн бұрын
@30:36 this guy with the hat WONT let him finish at all. It’s suppose to be a civil discussion. The police officer was trying there. Let people talk.
@Michael_MW
@Michael_MW 9 ай бұрын
“I DONT KNOW YOU.” I’m glad someone finally pointed out that assuming all citizens are criminals or assuming all police are tyrants is the same ignorance. It’s called prejudice.
@Itsjrdot
@Itsjrdot 9 ай бұрын
The most real comment I’ve seen.
@pinksnake8001
@pinksnake8001 9 ай бұрын
It's not the same ignorance because cops aren't just random citizens, they're part of a system. That changes everything.
@tooserious8722
@tooserious8722 9 ай бұрын
@@pinksnake8001every system has its own unique elements
@professormadlad7773
@professormadlad7773 9 ай бұрын
I see cops as tyrants.
@wood9670
@wood9670 9 ай бұрын
If you financially cripple people and tear them away from their families because you are paid to do that then you are rightfully called a tyrant.
@Dandeliondart
@Dandeliondart 9 ай бұрын
Charlie expects everyone to just be their own police, detective, judge, and jury.
@lazarzivkovic3393
@lazarzivkovic3393 7 ай бұрын
its called anarchism
@michaelmitchel3471
@michaelmitchel3471 7 ай бұрын
It's pretty silly of him. One of the best points the ex convicts brought up was that since there is nobody (or very few) policing the police, they have an ego, and become controlling, yet Charlie wants that for every body(and look, Charlie has an ego)
@napsterdeus5770
@napsterdeus5770 7 ай бұрын
@@lazarzivkovic3393it’s called idiotizm😂
@knado8135
@knado8135 6 ай бұрын
Sovereign citizen. Tells you everything you need to know about that person. They literally think they have no repercussions to anything they ever do. They don't think they need to buy anything, pay rent, follow laws, etc. Literally the problem with the entire US.
@mvsilent1764
@mvsilent1764 20 күн бұрын
This episode turned into who has the saddest story
@alyssaleblanc6826
@alyssaleblanc6826 7 күн бұрын
The way all the cops got SO DEFENSIVE whenever the other side were giving personal examples. Like... if I got treated that way, why do you think id respect you at that point? RESPECT IS EARNED.
@crazyeaglefan
@crazyeaglefan 9 ай бұрын
When Charlie brought up the situation about the broken down car. He wouldn't let Marlon respond. Marlon would say 2 words and be cut off. After constantly being interrupted he asked the controller to get control and then the criminals said "see, you cant control yourself" when the ones who couldn't control themselves was the criminals.
@NfiniteRage
@NfiniteRage 9 ай бұрын
Yeah that's called gaslighting.
@Ph4r4oh_444g
@Ph4r4oh_444g 9 ай бұрын
Yea I didn’t like! that charlie is definitely an agitator and manipulator, charlie can’t understand because all he can think about is himself and what he went through and how he was done wrong and can’t put himself in the officers shoes because he disassociate himself with anything that has to do with the law 🤷🏾‍♂️
@Michael_MW
@Michael_MW 9 ай бұрын
100% that part was really annoying. Also because after that the officers who clearly wanted to say something were not allowed to respond and they just cut to the next prompt.
@19jessejames83
@19jessejames83 9 ай бұрын
They all did their time for their crimes so stop labeling them as criminals.
@jonw7937
@jonw7937 9 ай бұрын
​@@19jessejames83That's what they are
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