Should Men Have A Say? Pro vs Anti Abortion Teens

Should Men Have A Say? Pro vs Anti Abortion Teens | Middle Ground

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0:00 intro
0:26 I have had unprotected sex
10:26 I have had an abortion
28:33 I'd rather abort a child than put them through the foster care system
37:34 Parents should be informed if their teen is seeking an abortion

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@jubilee Жыл бұрын

No matter where you stand on the topic of abortion, it’s a difficult and vulnerable conversation to have, and we want to give a shoutout to our cast for being brave enough to share their experiences in this episode ❤️

@cozypm Жыл бұрын

are these teens or ?? one of them said that they were married

@nylachery7903 Жыл бұрын

@@cozypm I would say they’re young adults cause i think all of them are out of high school and in college

@fireykitten9217 Жыл бұрын

It is not difficult to understand that we do not decide for another persons body.

@mpat100 Жыл бұрын

keep their legs closed and they wont need abortions

@pizzermaster1145 Жыл бұрын

@@cozypm probably 18-20

@sweet3488 Жыл бұрын

Constance needs to realize not everyone wants a child, especially if they’ve been raped

@ooscardls Жыл бұрын

and the rape victim who said that every raped victim should keep the baby.

@44EricRH44 Жыл бұрын

Being raped is a horrible situation, but it's not the baby's fault whether the mother *wants* to bring it to term or not. The baby should still have rights in that situation. It's a terrible, dark situation for the mother: It makes my blood boil. They 10000% get the short end of the stick (to put it lightly), but there's no need to make it even more horrifying by ending the innocent baby's life.

@evaedwards-stoll9036 Жыл бұрын

She was so rude

@Plechatyvisuals Жыл бұрын

Rape, incest are less than 1% of abortions. Look it up. Most of the time it’s just people who aren’t responsible. I will debate anyone who is pro choice and I will win because 90% of y’all aren’t educated you just listen to what social media tells you.

@devin3955 Жыл бұрын

@@44EricRH44 The baby doesn’t have rights. The mother gets to choose.

@Moniethemom Жыл бұрын

For that woman to have no job and carrying a baby to talk down on people not wanting a child is INSANEEEE

@kaitlynkite Жыл бұрын

FOR REALLLLL

@NonStopParis Жыл бұрын

Why though

@nayelialejandro4329 Жыл бұрын

@@NonStopParis because she doesn’t understand the mental and physical toll it takes on women who don’t have the luxury of depending on someone to take care of them while being pregnant . she has the choice to not work while some women don’t.

@skyemadisyn163 Жыл бұрын

And then saying it’s okay cause they’ve created resources for young mothers. Girl I get what I think you’re meaning but that comes across as yea if teens wanna have babies they should and here is who will help

@inesarif8497 Жыл бұрын

⁠@@skyemadisyn163 yeah exactly it doesn’t matter how much help is out there and what people can give you, if you don’t want a child that’s it you don’t want a child.

@emanon2774 5 ай бұрын

constance was genuinely insufferable and made this vid nearly impossible to finish 😭how can someone have so little empathy

@cacaman1391 4 ай бұрын

That's the nucleus of the anti-abortion public. They lack empathy and they don't know better.

@Chris-pg7qg 4 ай бұрын

Womp womp

@u235x00 4 ай бұрын

yeah i had to stop watching half way cus i couldn’t stand her

@gameregg-1006 4 ай бұрын

@@u235x00who

@tkyk4893 3 ай бұрын

Because abortion is wrong. You can't really empathize with a mu-rder-3r.

@0Avachuu0 3 ай бұрын

When that guy said "im not in a financially stable situation to adopt." Bro was so close to the point but missed it 😭😭..

@kellynn739 2 ай бұрын

And the other group went, "OHHH!" I was kind of hoping they would circle back to that part.

@Crating Ай бұрын

Their reaction and the way they went "OHHH!" was so weird. It's not like he's the one taking the risks?

@xoalexa-vs6fx Ай бұрын

⁠⁠ you could be the most cautious person in the world and still get r*ped. if someone chooses to participate in sex then that is their decision and the risk they chose to take. however, if you are r*ped and are not currently financially stable enough to take care of a baby, how is that your fault?

@Randomdesiredvids Ай бұрын

adoption is so so expensive though compared to having a baby naturally.

@hannahwatkins4106 Ай бұрын

@@Crating are child victims taking a risk when they become pregnant?

@Itspoppyme 6 ай бұрын

Hearing Wylan share that she was groomed and raped by a family member and then Constance responding with the phrase "people get into the situation of pregnant" is absolutely repulsive.

@KoolAidSquirt 5 ай бұрын

To me it came off as, she was a willing participant rather than someone who was r*****.

@Sammy2g3 5 ай бұрын

We throw that r word out there way too much. She wasn't r**ped. She said she was groomed but a willing participant.

@Chistinedaae 5 ай бұрын

@@KoolAidSquirt No she was groomed

@KoolAidSquirt 5 ай бұрын

@@Chistinedaae no I’m saying that she explained it that way. Not that, that’s what’s happened.

@cacaman1391 4 ай бұрын

@@KoolAidSquirt And what's that you are adding to the conversation with that statement? That maybe when she was a child it didn't feel like rape because she didn't know better? What?

@sis2334 Жыл бұрын

it literally sickened me how constance talked to alexandra. when she was describing her abortion, how she was grieving, and how it felt for her, and then constance cut her off and said “did you know that a baby has a heartbeat at 5 weeks?”. there was absolutely not respect towards her, which is just sad.

@aidanaldrich7795 Жыл бұрын

She just has little sympathy for child killers. She will understand nuance as she gets older hopefully

@isaactar 11 ай бұрын

That’s just plain misinformation at 5 weeks if you are able to see a heart beat it is actually a group of around 200 cells and it is around 4-5 mm across, calling this a “baby” is wrong scientifically.

@putrirfr 11 ай бұрын

Constance probably somehow unconsciously regret her decision to marry so young and being pregnant so she talked down to the others to make her feel better

@catholiccowboy8545 11 ай бұрын

“did you know that the thing can fart at 1 week ?"

@loganriley1352 11 ай бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795aborting a fetus does not make one a child killer 😂

@lilliekaypowell 6 ай бұрын

there whole convo about how “raped women’s children are the same as everyone else’s children” rubbed me sooo wrong . yes the fetus might be a normal kid, but you know how truamtizing it would be to be the mom seeing ur rapist face in ur kid every single day. i’m a firm believer on if you want to be pro life, be pro life for YOURSELF. you can still be pro choice and personally / morally be pro life.

@domg0714 6 ай бұрын

That doesn’t mean he/she shouldn’t be alive

@denzellmovies 6 ай бұрын

@@domg0714"shouldn't be alive"? No one believes that someone born of rape shouldn't be alive, obviously that's not on them. We just believe people shouldn't be forced to give birth to their rapist's babies. Those are two different things

@campickett4293 5 ай бұрын

@@pinkmama6077do you know every raped mother? Don’t speak for an entire group of people cause there are plenty of those who do.

@rutelichagarrucho2388 5 ай бұрын

And the fact of not having any choice there,like,you didn’t choose to be raped

@mckennaw7996 5 ай бұрын

Well not as much as seeing the rapist in the kids face because the face is the mothers too but it’s more like rape is traumatizing for a mother and that mothers trauma can reflect on the kid.

@kata.8106 5 ай бұрын

Constance cannot have a conversation...she is so argumentative!

@TheLegendOfRandy 5 ай бұрын

@@tigereye5272 There's a difference between an amicable debate and just rudely yelling over everyone. In fairness, this is a group of teenagers, so it's not surprising to have at least one of them be incredibly rude, loud and disrespectful.

@s1l3ntkai 4 ай бұрын

I have to agree. the repetitive talking (quite loudly but not screaming) over other people while they were trying to voice their thoughts just let me know I do not wanna be in a debate with her. All respect for her though for sharing her opinions, no matter how rude it personally seemed for other people.

@tkyk4893 3 ай бұрын

@@tigereye5272 Exactly. There's a lot of cope going on in this comments section.

@sassyp.5999 3 ай бұрын

@@tigereye5272It’s not what you say, it’s HOW you say it. All of their arguments are valid, notice how they’re not being disrespectful to anyone else? She needs to take notes.

@sassyp.5999 3 ай бұрын

@@tigereye5272 That’s the point of this debate/discussion lol. For 2 opposing sides to bring up points they see as valid to support their argument 😭 Ofc they disagree, hence why they’re not on the same side on this topic.

@alimaemia Жыл бұрын

I was shook when two of the teens immediately said they were married/engaged.

@bruja6698 Жыл бұрын

Christians

@Pumpkineata1 Жыл бұрын

They're adults...

@kayladrake9399 Жыл бұрын

@@Pumpkineata1 if there’s a “teen” in your age (for example: eighteen, nineteen) then you’re not really considered an adult just yet.

@Pumpkineata1 Жыл бұрын

@@kayladrake9399 according to whom? In the eyes of the law and society, they are adults.

@Pumpkineata1 Жыл бұрын

@tulip I completely agree, I just don’t know what that has to do with young adults who choose to get married. They’re in a committed relationship, and divorce exists if they decide it wasn’t what they wanted.

@lucemovement2435 Жыл бұрын

I was shook when that young woman told her story of being molested and that anti choice lady responded with "but there are resources"

@satellitestargazer2770 11 ай бұрын

The literally don't gaf

@jaebae.91 11 ай бұрын

@overlordfemto7523💯

@ichijixi 11 ай бұрын

@overlordfemto7523nope

@satellitestargazer2770 11 ай бұрын

@overlordfemto7523 There ain't no baby. No I do not think a little blood clot is the same as a full term baby. Yes, you can love it and have feelings about it, but it isn't the same as having a whole child ripped away from you.

@sethsalazar3334 11 ай бұрын

You opinion isn’t relevant to science

@abbypatterson3688 5 ай бұрын

"so are you going to adopt it? I assume you will" "no, thats not a fair argument-" SHE ATE THAT

@luisnavarro7880 5 ай бұрын

The question was just to snap back at him. Because he was anti abortion doesn’t mean he’s going to adopt.

@bethanyheyde805 3 ай бұрын

As an adopted child myself, I proudly support adoption. I wish more people would do it and embrace it.

@pineapple3555 3 ай бұрын

And when he said “I’m not financially or mentally ready (to adopt)” That was just the icing on the cake 😂

@AJ-lm5dl 2 ай бұрын

There are 36 waiting adoptive parents for every newborn. She "ate" absolutely nothing.

@clairevoyance0 2 ай бұрын

i keep seeing this number but i can’t find any source that includes an actual study. can you cite your source? other than a website that just uses this stat, an actual survey or study.

@paytonrstanglewicz610 Ай бұрын

I feel like Constance’s method of debating is just confusing people so they can’t even really argue against what she said because it doesn’t even make sense

@Sui_23 24 күн бұрын

She’s ridiculous! Saying “ the baby is not white enough to be born” I was shocked??

@putinsthirdtoe8800 20 күн бұрын

Modern politics be like

@quwandathornton 19 күн бұрын

@@Sui_23 When she mentions the Embryo having Emotions is what got me so weirded out

@USMCScoutSniper_ Жыл бұрын

They should have a Pro Abortion Doctor vs. Anti Abortion Doctor episode

@reecelee5218 Жыл бұрын

THIS.

@angebukasa8338 Жыл бұрын

This would be a great idea

@inrisalvatore9520 Жыл бұрын

I think it is a phylosophical topic rather than a scientific one. Therefore, that would be better to have two philosophers debating than two doctors.

@brentoncarter4275 Жыл бұрын

@@marblepeaches did you have to switch to your alts to upvote yourself. sad.

@BroccoliAndCheese01 Жыл бұрын

We need Mama Doctor Jones on that one!

@heathensongs 6 ай бұрын

The way Constance tried to guilt Alexandra about her abortion even after she stated she mourned that unborn baby's life by saying " You know it had a heartbeat." is so low.

@samuelleyimu8218 6 ай бұрын

I really don't think she was guilting her. Alexandra said her baby wasn't a living thing, and Constance pointed out that having a heartbeat is a really hard-to-argue point of being a living thing.

@salexxbrown1985 6 ай бұрын

@@samuelleyimu8218 there are multiple qualities that a being must possess to be considered living. having a heartbeat is not enough.

@donutpete 6 ай бұрын

@@salexxbrown1985that’s opinion, for me it’s conception, that happens after fertilization witch 96% of scientists agree on, it’s opinion, so ur point?

@guccimane8310 6 ай бұрын

@@donutpete The point is it's up the woman herself. You think its a human at conception, they think its a human way later down the pregnancy. And you said it yourself, its an opinion, so they get to chose if they want an abortion or not. And you can't control someone's life. You may think it's human, but it's barely a human. It doesn't feel, doesn't think, doesn't see, or hear, it doesn't have emotions, it doesn't have a conscience, it doesn't have morals, and all these things define what a human is. And that clump of cells you have in your stomach at the beginning of pregnancy has none of it. So whether you think it's human or not, is completely irrelevant. Because at the end of the day, it's not YOUR BODY, so you don't get to control them.

@Toasxy 6 ай бұрын

@@guccimane8310so is a miscarriage not a person when it passed away ?

@greciaverdin2416 Ай бұрын

“I can’t afford to have a kid so I won’t adopt” but you who has no job, no medical assistance , no assistance in general no support…YOU MUST HAVE THE CHILD!

@TheLegendOfRandy Ай бұрын

Yeah, but he's not a woman, so it's not his problem. He ironically made one of the best arguments to be pro-choice instead of anti-choice. He _literally_ argued against himself and didn't even realize it.

@user-zn7gq2jl8m 2 күн бұрын

no. he said i'm choosing NOW, to not adopt and have protected sex, or no sex. because i know i cant take care of a child. those are healthy adult desicions. a women saying i don't want to pay the consequences of my actions is a whole-nother subject. people mix up the difference between choice vs taken way too often.

@daniela__1342 2 ай бұрын

The way Alexandra carries her words brought tears to my eyes. What a beautiful human being

@rihannakahia5078 Ай бұрын

Could not agree more

@thataussiegirlyouknow 11 ай бұрын

Pro choice is not pro abortion. It means that whatever you choose, I will support you.

@aidanaldrich7795 11 ай бұрын

...even if it's abortion. Which is why you are pro-abortion

@jmw8183 11 ай бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795 respecting having a baby and respecting having an abortion can coexist.

@cassiewright8957 11 ай бұрын

But you are pro woman having the ability to have abortion legally. Therefore pro abortion. That doesn’t mean you are saying every woman should have an abortion just that you are perfectly fine if they do.

@why8298 11 ай бұрын

@@jmw8183it very much depends on the circumstances and reasons for having one, if it is the result of and to further one’s own promiscuity then I will have zero respect for you, and that is one of the more common reasons.

@chuckaluck40 10 ай бұрын

No it is absolutely pro abortion.

@natankebreab911 Жыл бұрын

Constance had absolutely no empathy towards Alexandra while she was sharing one of her hardest experiences, on a public platform and she kept shutting people down dismissing their opinions. How rude

@michaelrandall7667 Жыл бұрын

Why would she? Going through a hard experience doesn't justify her decisions and reasoning. That was her entire argument outside the usual silly bodily autonomy argument she made. Constance was immature but so was Alexandra, just in different ways. At least Constance made a couple solid points goinded in logic. Everything Alexandra said was grounded in selfishness.

@milktocoffee 11 ай бұрын

It's really crazy that this country is arguing over a women's body.

@michaelrandall7667 11 ай бұрын

@@milktocoffee They aren't, that is just the people who refuse to listen to the other side. Pro-life people are clearly arguing about not ending babies lives. To mention a woman's body is to say you aren't willing to have an honest conversation.

@X.Y.X 11 ай бұрын

⁠@@michaelrandall7667No talking* about a women’s health, body and righting into this conversation is to not have an honest conversation. I bet you lie just like that rude classless girl… making up stuff to fit your feelings😂

@Robzabest25 11 ай бұрын

@@michaelrandall7667 no one agrees with you

@annadealy7653 2 ай бұрын

Braedons experience in the foster care system makes me definately feel I would rather have an abortion over putting a kid through that. His argument did the opposite of what he wanted.

@feltfirefox 9 күн бұрын

But would you want children in foster care now to be put out of their misery? Your point of view, which I understand, assumes the child in the womb has no proper value/life like we do. It is telling people in foster care that their lives have less meaning because they involve more suffering.

@bruv7569 7 күн бұрын

@@feltfirefoxsome people would rather not have a baby than put it through that type of life. it’s that simple.

@samuelhong4272 6 күн бұрын

@@bruv7569it’s really not tho. You’re being reductive. Also what does “that type of life” mean?

@bruv7569 6 күн бұрын

@@samuelhong4272 growing up through the foster care system. and i’m not being reductive, it’s literally just a decision some people choose to make, and some people choose not to depending on their personal lives and circumstances.

@samuelhong4272 6 күн бұрын

@@bruv7569 there's something wrong w foster care?And abortion isn't just a decision it's a medical procedure. There's more to it than making a decision. You're minimizing what an abortion actually is. Alternatively, a pro lifer could say some people should not have sex then have an abortion. It's that simple. My issue is not people having an abortion it's your argument.

@bellapinnette7613 Ай бұрын

I don’t think I could be someone on this episode without attacking Constance

@2twiceray Ай бұрын

ong i wanted to reach through the skin, daphne’s reactions to her words were hilarious

@ModernMozart1104 25 күн бұрын

Then I'm glad you weren't on it.

@antheavandenbrouck3294 17 күн бұрын

I'm glad you understand the concept of a debate

@bridramirez6760 17 күн бұрын

That’s extremely telling and I’m surprised you would admit that with pride

@emoth.mothie 15 күн бұрын

Maybe someone did but they've cut it 😅

@daniel_kale Жыл бұрын

People need to realize that basically NO ONE is "pro-abortion". Being pro-choice means the option to have one, thats it. If you don't want to get one, then dont.

@sydneyclark1135 Жыл бұрын

exactly

@pranavg.9811 Жыл бұрын

If you have abortions that would make you pro-abortion.

@leprechaun130 Жыл бұрын

Yeah , everyone aim is to reduce abortions.

@tonybeltran4366 Жыл бұрын

except the pro choice needs to be before sex and not after you find out you're pregnant

@pranavg.9811 Жыл бұрын

In everything being pro something mean legalising it. You don’t need to own a gun to be pro-gun ownership. You don’t need to be an immigrant to be pro-immigration.

@SL1MTB0Y01 Жыл бұрын

its crazy how insensitive constance was. imagine a girl talking about her experience and getting teary eyed and then throwing the heartbeat thing in her face. smh

@jahnaviraman5411 Жыл бұрын

and when she told daphne about how she "starved" her fetus like HUH???

@alyssar3440 11 ай бұрын

Constance doesn’t care about feelings it’s about science

@carsonmyers3216 11 ай бұрын

Its crazy how someone can take an innocent human life. Especially when it's their own offspring

@AlzMarioWolfe 10 ай бұрын

@@carsonmyers3216It’s a clump of cells, your 20 jerk off sessions a day are all potential children wasted too btw.

@rutgerhauser2377 10 ай бұрын

It is the truth, the heartbeat thing is real. Whether or not it is complex life, it is still a fact. If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen.

@Thebowedcat 5 ай бұрын

Alexandra was a champion. She was so brave to share her stories. she delt with some others absolutely shading and bringing her down. She also helped the group stop arguing by like switching topics. I hope she’s doing very well.

@Thegamer13537 3 ай бұрын

More of a loser

@RoseEyed 5 ай бұрын

It frustrates me how people make pregnancy sound like a minor inconvenience when it is literally a physically, emotionally, and financially LIFE ALTERING EVENT. It's considered a disability for a reason. I know people who literally could not eat food the entire time they were pregnant without throwing up to the point of malnourishment. People who'd need to stop taking medication for depression or psychosis. People who were bedridden for months or needed serious surgeries. Glossing over that is extremely disingenuous.

@aidanaldrich7795 5 ай бұрын

Extreme cases of pregnancy complications should not excuse all cases of abortion

@RoseEyed 5 ай бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795 1) Complications that can come with pregnancy aren't just "extreme cases." Pregnancy sucks to experience in general. It is exhausting and draining to sustain another life both physically and emotionally, even if you don't experience things I named above. 2) My comment wasn't about being pro-life or pro-choice. It was about how people make pregnancy sound like some easy thing when it's not.

@townpro5180 5 ай бұрын

There fault for having sex

@RoseEyed 5 ай бұрын

@@townpro5180 thank you for your very meaningful contribution to the conversation. I will keep that in mind any time you mention something being difficult.

@TheLegendOfRandy 5 ай бұрын

@@townpro5180 So when a drunk driver hit me with their car, it was "my fault? for consenting to drive? Why, in your opinion, was I responsible for that simply for consenting to drive?

@cassidyjones8545 Жыл бұрын

hearing constance saying “i do not” over and over again made me want to pull my hair out

@simrans8050 11 ай бұрын

it made her appear pretty childish, to be honest.

@Chicken.47. 11 ай бұрын

the way i wouldve start yelling at her just for that

@tr4sh.doll_ 11 ай бұрын

yes that was so disrespectful and annoying, she was acting like she was her mom or something

@jahnaviraman5411 11 ай бұрын

LITERALLY SAME 😭

@BADLEMONART 10 ай бұрын

especially the way she was interrupting others no problem, but when it’s her getting interrupted it’s different 😂

@alyssiarichards245 Жыл бұрын

Either the pro lifers are choosing not to understand Alexandra or they just aren’t smart enough to understand what she’s saying. Her points were very clear

@oookoshka3734 Жыл бұрын

No, she was doing strawman, she's comparing apples to oranges

@Asaspecimenyesimextraoddinary Жыл бұрын

@@oookoshka3734 elaborate 😃

@msharp6887 Жыл бұрын

Also wrong

@arelisantanaflores8597 Жыл бұрын

@@oookoshka3734 based on this comment i think pro lifers are just choosing not to understand Alexandra

@oookoshka3734 Жыл бұрын

@@arelisantanaflores8597 she makes no sense besides making reaches

@bluraine7739 29 күн бұрын

Dude, even if the fetus is alive, it's only alive because of the womans body. She should always have the choice to not be a sacrifice. Why anybody thinks they should be able to force a woman to sacrifice her body and mental for a fetus that she either doesn't want or can't take care of is beyond me

@aidanaldrich7795 26 күн бұрын

Anybody who won't save an innocent human life, even when it costs some time and energy, is pathetic and immoral

@JesseoverPessi 20 күн бұрын

You are an awful person lad

@denzellmovies 18 күн бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795 Have you donated one of your kidneys or part of your liver?

@aidanaldrich7795 18 күн бұрын

@@denzellmovies No, but I would if someone needed mine to survive. Wouldn't you?

@taclibonfrancine9066 12 күн бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795and that's your choice isn't it? if only everyone had choices...

@East_ina 2 ай бұрын

Alexandra was so well spoken! I respect how she kept her composure and remained open to hearing what others had to say during this discussion

@sandrarobbins3119 11 ай бұрын

Constance shaming the other women is just absolutely tragic.

@Lansso1 9 ай бұрын

Constance the best.

@user-tn2pz7ze2o 9 ай бұрын

It should be shamed

@vicom134 9 ай бұрын

@@Lansso1You mean Cuntstance?

@vicom134 9 ай бұрын

@@user-tn2pz7ze2oWhat should be shamed is deciding to have a kid, despite having no job and not being able to provide to that kid. EXTREMELY selfish and disgusting in my opinion.

@rohanshende4338 9 ай бұрын

So everyone should agree with you?

@venusbb9 8 ай бұрын

it’s so insane to me how you can listen to a harrowing story about someone being groomed, raped etc and still even have room in your brain to argue with them about why they had their abortion?!? literally has me thinking those people are psychopathic

@NovaVK 8 ай бұрын

Exactly like clearly you are lacking some empathy.

@katelandaley3208 8 ай бұрын

and then they have the nerve to talk about the inhumanity of abortions, ironic

@Jseagle1989 8 ай бұрын

Neither are wrong. There's truth in what both are saying. However, they are looking at the situation from totally different vantage points. One is looking at it as " I'll have to carry a baby by a person who violated me", and the other is looking it as "Though the child was conceived through ill means. It doesn't make it any less worthy of life than a child she actually wanted. Also, it wouldn't make the trauma from that experience any less than it already is". That's what I'm taking from what they're saying.

@OofBilly 8 ай бұрын

@@Jseagle1989if something dies it dies you call someone deceased once they are out of the belly but when the baby is in the belly they have different terms for when it dies why is that?

@OofBilly 8 ай бұрын

When I say different terms I mean stillbirth and miscarriage which depend on the amount of weeks it had lived

@lahnajohnson31 Ай бұрын

Alexandra’s voice is so powerful and cut through the room like a knife when she speaks. Speaking nothing but facts with sound rationality and also experience. 👏

@saraily3 6 ай бұрын

The guy that went through abuse in foster care and yet hes still basically saying your kid should go to foster care instead like what?

@SlatheTheSpaceMarine 3 ай бұрын

I believe that perspective would come from : It's better to live and to suffer than to not live at all.

@Cece_18 Ай бұрын

@@SlatheTheSpaceMarineyeah until u suffer so much you just wish u weren’t alive at all.

@siriousholmes 11 ай бұрын

32:02 made me spit out my drink "i am not in a financially stable situation to adopt a child". Neither are some of the people who decide to get abortions for that reason lmao

@nbaviis 10 ай бұрын

Well then don’t have sex 😂

@katm149 10 ай бұрын

It's not the same!

@rin1875 10 ай бұрын

@frozenboy712thats disrespectful

@SPKzanita 10 ай бұрын

@frozenboy712then why did you stick it in?

@AlphaAbyss_ 10 ай бұрын

Well how about idk a woman decide to be careful about who she sleeps around with so who ever her partner is they are able to protect and provide for that child

@jahnaviraman5411 Жыл бұрын

i feel so awful for wylan. it's just so shocking that her parents were so disgusting that they were more worried ab people finding out that the baby was his rather than caring about her safety and well being

@_aasshhee 10 ай бұрын

I know...they said she was lying for attention too. That was so heartbreaking. I wish nothing but the best for her.

@jahnaviraman5411 10 ай бұрын

@@_aasshhee same. some parents are horrible

@wyattcole5452 10 ай бұрын

I’ve met someone who was impregnated by their father when they were 13, and it depends on the person, of course, but she said she didn’t regret giving birth, she was actually upset that her mom gave the child up and her and her mom’s relationship is terrible now. My grandpa had two girlfriends whose parents took them to Detroit for an abortion unbeknownst to my grandpa, the girlfriends only going through with what their parents told them. Sad that parents can encourage their child to make such a life-altering, possibly world-altering, choice and even more sad that she felt she had to go through with it when one of them at least felt horribly about the whole experience. I’m tired of the lie that abortion doesn’t effect men, and I’m tired of the ridiculous argument that even if it didn’t, we shouldn’t have a say…

@jahnaviraman5411 10 ай бұрын

@@wyattcole5452 i mean maybe let's not endorse the idea of ppl giving birth to incest babies...

@marsjokes 9 ай бұрын

*disgusted

@macbroekpro2896 4 ай бұрын

Men being there arguing about woman’s bodies and their choices was already disturbing for me, but then Constance started talking and I am disgusted about the way she talks.

@leahsvet Ай бұрын

It’s not woman’s bodies though. If it was “their body their choice”, they’d be the ones getting aborted.

@iceblaze3043 18 күн бұрын

I disagree with your first statement, because I believe men should try to save human life. Constance should have had more empathy, but she is very logical, and scientific.

@LizzylooFuntinati-hx5gd 13 күн бұрын

@iceblaze3043 Uh…no. She was argumentative and confusing

@iceblaze3043 12 күн бұрын

@@LizzylooFuntinati-hx5gd You can disagree with her, but most of what she said was factually correct.

@Feminazi1dc 10 күн бұрын

the race card immediately being played for no reason really set the scene lmfao

@Blackzoro2023 25 күн бұрын

Alexandra is going places in life. Vulnerable. Respectful. And most importantly, thoughtful. I hope the best for her 🙏🏿

@khaos1014 Жыл бұрын

My heart reaches out to Alexandra, that girl has more patience than anyone I’ve ever seen. She gave the floor to people, said to them “I think you had something that you wanted to say” fully let them say their piece, but when she tried to speak her piece was interrupted most the time. Wild how she was the only one willing to listen and have a mature debate about a tricky topic

@jhartleyutah 11 ай бұрын

When she has a kid she will be a great mom

@Kissmyass155 11 ай бұрын

She literally talked the majority of the time with the super long winded responses and then tried to cut people off

@tonyzheng6149 11 ай бұрын

it's nice to know that u feel sympathy for child-killer Alexandra.

@KaydenzWorld 11 ай бұрын

@@Kissmyass155are you serious 😂? Most the time she was patiently listening

@Kissmyass155 11 ай бұрын

@@KaydenzWorld when she was talking too long and people were trying to address each point her addressable points were forgotten. She kind of threw everything off to me.

@seanroyal8017 11 ай бұрын

Alexandra was shy and timid at first but when she got comfortable- SHE WENT IN!!! I would love to see her on a formal debate stage!

@StarlightJosh 11 ай бұрын

she is silent yet so powerful

@baggiesfan257 10 ай бұрын

She is a disgrace

@cloroxbitch2491 10 ай бұрын

When the quiet people speaks up, listen.

@justinruck3334 9 ай бұрын

She’s delusional

@yurimins 9 ай бұрын

@@justinruck3334the anti abortion are delusional

@megndeth 3 ай бұрын

Alexandra is so well spoken for her age, light years ahead of Constance, who talks over people and repeats herself to get her point across.

@user-vd7fw8kc4f 13 күн бұрын

Saying that an unborn baby doesn’t have a voice to say what they want ??? They can’t even think? Like what, I hate this argument.

@ColynKirkland 9 ай бұрын

Constance is the kind of woman to get married straight out of high school, have a child, and not have an actual job🤣

@trillaB 9 ай бұрын

Absolutely agreed like?

@sarahs.9678 9 ай бұрын

Being a mother isn’t an actual job? Lol.

@ColynKirkland 9 ай бұрын

@@sarahs.9678 It's a responsibility, but it's not an actual paying job. No.

@angelperez4499 9 ай бұрын

Literally

@kofiti21 9 ай бұрын

@@sarahs.9678literally unpaid labor

@abigailhoward9312 Жыл бұрын

Constance was the most immature, intolerable part of this conversation. Everybody else was so mature & let each other finish their thought and didn’t behave pompous & condescending. Someone should have put her in her place fr

@bananatitan3080 Жыл бұрын

She did fine? Everyone spoke over each other at some point. 💀

@abby4861 Жыл бұрын

@@bananatitan3080naur she was very preachy & passive aggressive :/

@kaelynjaye4608 Жыл бұрын

I literally cringed every time she spoke

@debatingmusic Жыл бұрын

she just destroyed your side thats all. She spoke when it was a time most of the time.

@clumsyinspector1514 Жыл бұрын

@@debatingmusicyou don’t even know what side they’re on. They literally said EVERYONE else did fine except her, meaning she could just not like Constance.

@mydumblife8067 5 ай бұрын

The reason death is scary to some is because we have experienced life and don’t comprehend what it’s like to not exist. Abortion ends it before it even happens. The fetus doesn’t have coherence in the womb when it’s that early. It will feel no pain, no sadness. It will not remember.

@thehost7697 5 ай бұрын

So we can just do whatever we want to pregnancies and justify by saying “who cares, it won't remember”

@mydumblife8067 5 ай бұрын

@@thehost7697 correct, it won’t remember, it won’t perceive what is happening, it will not feel pain at that stage. Why is that a problem? It’s is not a viable life. I’m not advocating for late stage abortion.

@thehost7697 5 ай бұрын

@@mydumblife8067 because immediately at conception, a set of dna is made, that determines eye color, skin, hair color, body structure, how is that not worth caring about? Why should we let abortion tools tear them apart, starve them, and cause cardiac arrests? Does this not sound inhumane? These are babies, How can you justify that?

@user-zn7gq2jl8m 2 күн бұрын

yeah. but since you've expeirenced the joys of life. wouldn't you want them to have that oppurtunity to?

@janey-lynnperrier2404 25 күн бұрын

Alexandra is such a icon. The way she was trying to hear people out

@luciagonzalo6762 Жыл бұрын

I want to make this clear: She didn't "put" herself in the situation of having unprotected s*x, she was groomed to be there.

@Mischief_Maker211 Жыл бұрын

well said

@louise6840 Жыл бұрын

@@Jonjon25629 well your mother sure was... too bad she did

@notime9616 Жыл бұрын

Women never take accountability. They complain about how difficult pregnancy is on their bodies to justify abortion, yet EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE WOMEN HAD UNPROTECTED Sx.

@Clementine-mh5wo Жыл бұрын

@@Jonjon25629 Theres actually no way you chose to respond to her comment like that, read it over, and still decided to post it, you are disgusting and you have never felt the touch of a woman.

@TravelWitMi Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@arguewithyamammyplz Жыл бұрын

Constance was a nightmare. That guy that compared abortion to slavery was just….I have no words

@aidanaldrich7795 Жыл бұрын

Very appropriate comparison. In both cases, people on the wrong side of history try to strip personhood and rights from living human beings

@morganberner2458 Жыл бұрын

Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margret Sanger, actually founded PP so the African American population would decrease? She was an eugenic who called black people “weeds.” Around 80% of Planned Parenthood’s are located in minority led neighborhoods.

@betty_3 Жыл бұрын

Are you really going to define something that can't feel hear see or make sound a human? Really?

@lysgatineau4722 Жыл бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795 what about enslaved women who were raped and forced to bring children into slavery ? i highly doubt they'd be against reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.

@Reptile1888 Жыл бұрын

@@betty_3 so blind, deaf, and mute people aren’t humans? Do they have human DNA? Are they of humanity? Yes. So they’re human

@trufflesrheaven 2 ай бұрын

They aren’t “pro-abortion”. They’re pro-choice.

@samuelhong4272 6 күн бұрын

There is no meaningful difference. Pro choice implies pro abortion.

@JonathanWomble 3 ай бұрын

When Luke said “if you don’t want slavery dont have slaves” and the camera zoomed on wylan side eyeing Alexandria and Constance. I fell out😂

@fruitaeano1325 11 ай бұрын

After hearing how irresponsible, ignorant human being constanse is... I'm seriously terrified for her upcoming child

@gurrbee 11 ай бұрын

Agree

@tinytannia 11 ай бұрын

How was she irresponsible? She was spitting facts the entire 45 mins...

@hannahazaira 11 ай бұрын

@@tinytannia real

@susiid.8051 11 ай бұрын

@@tinytanniai agree. I liked her

@npcnamedlaila6842 11 ай бұрын

@@tinytanniabesides what she was actually saying it was just disrespectful to constantly(ironic lol) cut people off and the chuckling

@zoemzkk Жыл бұрын

Constance was very dismissive and rude it’s crazy that she is having a child rn with the lack of empathy and maturity she possesses that’s all I’m going to say on her.

@EdgarHernandez-uu4iw Жыл бұрын

Same way the pro abortion side cheer for her pregnancy but in the same believe a fetus isn’t worthy of life

@ZacharyShank Жыл бұрын

She is very professional and firm, and I respect that about her.

@zoemzkk Жыл бұрын

@@ZacharyShank were we watching the same video how was she professional💀

@emma-leighprice508 Жыл бұрын

@@ZacharyShankinterrupting someone and yelling at them IS NOT mature

@nonchalantsavagery Жыл бұрын

She gives me strict parent vibes to the point her kids don’t like talking to her . Probably not the case I’m only seeing er in this video but she gives off those vibe’s heavily.

@raidahwaziha5305 3 ай бұрын

"Are you going to stand here and say that children who are conceived in rape are somehow different than children who are conceived consensually?" this was one the most stupidest and insensitive follow-up questions asked, for the very reason that the discussion wasn't even about discrimination amongst babies but rather about the mother's mental health and the trauma she goes through after being raped

@2twiceray Ай бұрын

EXACTLYY I was in shock after she said that because that wasn’t even related

@superbloom_3 10 күн бұрын

speaking loudly doesn’t mean you’re saying smart things constance!!

@scarahua 9 ай бұрын

i'm actually apalled when wylan talked about being sexually abused at a very young age-young enough to not know what was happening to her body, and constance reponds with "what about the unborn child" without so much as thinking about how wylan *WAS* also a child in that situation! a child that could have been forced to carry ANOTHER child to full term. that is something that i genuinely feel is horrifying and was not even close to being made out to be as horrifying and gut churning as it is when it was over looked so quickly and insensitively instead of actually digesting it even when wylan implies she was very young.

@bogartmotomoto8222 9 ай бұрын

They are both victim. Wylan and her own child. Both of them need a support. The abuser need to be punish. Simple as that

@ncfire80 9 ай бұрын

Pro lifers are not pro life, they’re anti-woman.

@xxaavviieerrrrr 8 ай бұрын

@@bogartmotomoto8222 agree, but Wylan ABSOLUTELY takes priority over her fetus, because how can we expect a healthy life for the fetus (if it does grow up) if Wylan herself is a child, still developing? It creates an unhealthy cycle.

@braydondobbs3784 8 ай бұрын

⁠@@xxaavviieerrrrrthere’s lots of ways to prevent an abortion even if you aren’t on birth control (because she was so young) plan b, you can have ur cervix scrapped (in privacy and don’t even have to inform police if you were assaulted… it’s more like if you are afraid of the person it won’t come back at you in a police investigation if you don’t want that), you can also have if caught early enough a lot of things done to prevent the process of pregnancy, by no means am i saying i want any young lady to go through this but that child inside her also deserves a chance if it’s late into the pregnancy, as you get older you can have your birth control and cobdoms to perform safe sex with these same options to prevent pregnancy’s caught…., it’s less expensive to get all these done then to have an abortion so it’s not even a money issue atp

@sarralemon 8 ай бұрын

There is no way this subject will ever come to an agreement. I don't like that they think abortion is health care.. Teens parents must be notified, because complications do happen.. Your a child you need your parents.

@betty-gf2ns Жыл бұрын

Alexandra was so honest and powerful in this. Shame on the anti-abortionists, especially Constance, for disregarding her story

@summer78946 Жыл бұрын

Powerful is such a great word to describe it 🥺

@urmomdotcommm Жыл бұрын

@@summer78946it really is!

@Isabella-mt7ob 11 ай бұрын

Everyone has their own story. Alexandra just decided to share it.

@anthonywchavez 11 ай бұрын

She didn’t disregard her story. She challenge her thinking. Pro choicers take no accountability

@tonyzheng6149 11 ай бұрын

shame on u for thinking that way. Alexandra is a disgusting child killer

@aidanprimeaux7250 5 ай бұрын

Luke mansplaining pregnancy to Alexandra was insane

@TomBradyisinlovewithson 2 ай бұрын

You mean explaining? Wtf

@doofuscawt Ай бұрын

explaining*

@BritneyHIAM Ай бұрын

@@doofuscawt mansplaining**

@doofuscawt Ай бұрын

@@BritneyHIAM Explaining***

@CreeperG0d 9 күн бұрын

"Mansplaining is a sexist term used to silence men." -Notch.

@glxtterbxmb Ай бұрын

“I haven’t had sex due to my religious and ethical code..” Sure, Jan.

@eshaanvig Ай бұрын

I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT 😂😂

@jayfaisa3171 Жыл бұрын

Abortion wouldn't be so widespread, if we cared about women's maternity care, child care, and treating sex and relationships with more respect.

@denzellmovies Жыл бұрын

and had proper sex ed

@angelaschone2847 Жыл бұрын

No, there are abortion because of health risks that are not presentable and non viability, no, abortion is not because people have sex a lot or are polyamorous, you can have an abortion being married

@denzellmovies Жыл бұрын

@@angelaschone2847 he never claimed ALL abortions happened because of those reasons...

@angelaschone2847 Жыл бұрын

@@denzellmovies it doesn't matter, he is saying most of them are because of the reason he have, and that is not true

@denzellmovies Жыл бұрын

@@angelaschone2847 he lierally didn't say that, you're just making things up

@remiyara Жыл бұрын

respect to alexandra, so well articulated in the face of others interrupting her & speaking over her

@judas7585 Жыл бұрын

FR i would've gotten pissed and walked off the stage

@manniefresh3425 Жыл бұрын

@@judas7585 lol yeah most pro abortionist act like adult babies

@electricpenguin32 Жыл бұрын

YES! Nothing but facts and they weren’t even listening to her 🙄

@GANZERBITCH Жыл бұрын

that women had a rape baby … thats fucked

@user-to6fi6jk4v Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure she’s just regurgitating things she’s learned from being a volunteer at planned parenthood.

@gioandlaurenfoodreviews 12 күн бұрын

people need to understand that the point of middle ground, is to try to find a MIDDLEGROUND. its not always about arguing your side, its about understanding the perspective of the opposing idealist.

@gioandlaurenfoodreviews 12 күн бұрын

alexandra was BEYOND respectful to these ppl.

@jimmydean6801 Жыл бұрын

I HATE when people equate their personal experiences and compare them to everyone else. Your circumstances are unique to you and no one else!

@jumpstreet2425 Жыл бұрын

Most abortions definitely aint unique. You have the huge amount. And the little outliers m

@laiainautumn-1252 Жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m saying. Personal experience doesn’t mean you get to force it onto others

@dongsicheng170 Жыл бұрын

Except when it match up with statistics. When you’re an outlier then yeah that’s specific to you.

@jay01342 10 ай бұрын

Exactly! That's why the government needs to stay out of it.

@jimmydean6801 10 ай бұрын

@@jumpstreet2425 people’s reasoning FOR the abortion are different is what I mean.

@hannahtchibinda9213 Жыл бұрын

When the Pro-lifer Braedon said he wouldn’t adopt because he “wasn’t in the financial place to adopt, however he has the choice to become a foster parent” I laughed out loud. The hypocrisy is ludicrous.

@blk5124 Жыл бұрын

The difference being he didn't put himself into the position and process of adoption or fostering kids and then back out. These women put themselves in the position to become parents and then they used abortion to back out. So the difference is pretty big.

@denzellmovies Жыл бұрын

@@blk5124 sex is a normal part of life and protection doesn't always work. Saying they put themselves in the position to become a parent is the same as saying that guy put himself in the position to adopt simply because he grew up and is now of age

@blk5124 Жыл бұрын

@@denzellmovies the efforts would have to be equal and they're not. To adopt, you do through a long, draw out, expensive process. Sex is not a long, drawn out . . . I hope nobody is paying for it . . process. Sex is a much faster decision. It leads to pregnancy. Adoption never leads to pregnancy for those adopting but it does lead to baby and child care. So the outcomes eventually are the same but the roads to it are totally different.

@freedomishavingachoice3020 Жыл бұрын

Ask em about the draft, and you can generally watch the h.y.p.o.c.r.i.s.y roll. Suddenly using their unwilling body for who the government deems more worthy is wrong. Unless it's the president they like, of course. 😂 Then of course the president they like should force you to get hurt. Honestly, a prolifers place in a country touting freedom is some astonishingly poor thought out logic. Prolifers want the freedom to use your body, not for their body to be used.

@MissingYouser Жыл бұрын

@@denzellmovies Lets say I tell a Major League Baseball pitcher to throw a ball as hard as they can at me because it sounds fun. I cover myself in pillows, a helmet, and body armor because I don’t want to get hurt. If it ends up hurting anyway, it’s my fault for first, wanting a ball thrown at me, and also for not covering up with even more pillows and armor knowing that protection isn’t 100% effective.

@nishthatripathi2905 22 күн бұрын

I will never understand how people are against abortion.

@user-bi3oc2jt4t 13 күн бұрын

Because human life has intrinsic value

@Feminazi1dc 10 күн бұрын

@@user-bi3oc2jt4t ironic.

@artwithsoli5450 8 күн бұрын

@@user-bi3oc2jt4twhy?

@Sweetheart-ch1kz Күн бұрын

@@user-bi3oc2jt4t Womp, womp

@lydia6637 Ай бұрын

32:03 so he understands the financial burden of having a kid, but still wants to force it in others?

@maude55 Жыл бұрын

to the people who opened up about their personal experiences with abortion - thank you. you didn't have to have this conversation, but you did. thank you for your strength.

@maude55 Жыл бұрын

also: daphne, thank you for your compassion, vulnerability and honesty.

@manniefresh3425 Жыл бұрын

Agreed it takes a strong person to openly admit to doing something pretty horrible

@07foxmulder Жыл бұрын

What strength?

@Nikki-lh1tu Жыл бұрын

@@07foxmulder the strength to sit in a group of people and tell them about your trauma

@trash5709 Жыл бұрын

@@manniefresh3425 lets get you back to bed grandma

@vivianb5780 Жыл бұрын

i would have literally cried if i had to be around constance. the amount of ignorance and unwillingness to listen, and plain disrespect is so hurtful to even listen to on a screen.

@aidanaldrich7795 Жыл бұрын

You "would have cried" just being around her? 😂 You are a weak person

@Mirro6112 Жыл бұрын

She’s self-righteous. Loves to hear herself talk and is prided by having said something, like a know-it-all teenager or a kid. Don’t let that make you upset, let it make you feel better that you don’t act like you have an underdeveloped brain as an adult.

@zzfxd553 Жыл бұрын

Ima just wait till she hits 35 with nothing but a highschool diploma and her husband gets tired of her🙂

@katenoke1571 11 ай бұрын

this is why more and more Americans support access to abortion - I don't think pro lifers actually understand how they come across

@aidanaldrich7795 11 ай бұрын

@katenoke1571 No. More and more Americans are supporting abortion because people care more about how easy their lives than respecting the rights of other human beings (such as the unborn)

@perfectkey4432 Ай бұрын

Pro choice doesn’t want to take away rights from anyone, we just want to be able to choose to have children or not. Pro life wants to strip the choice from women

@mika3235 3 ай бұрын

As someone who’s lost a parent to say a divorce is worse is crazy 💀

@sarahcorbo3659 7 ай бұрын

The stark difference in the level of maturity and willingness to have an open discussion between Alexandra and Constance is like night and day.

@maisyrae4967 7 ай бұрын

The way Constance berated Alexandra after she told such a vulnerable story was so disgusting. You don't have to agree but she is still human and went through an incredibly difficult time. It shows more and more how anti-abortion people do not take into account the experience and well-being of the mother. I'm so impressed by how well spoken Alexandra was after being so disgustingly attacked because I would have been sobbing.

@mjlawnscapingllc3873 6 ай бұрын

Ironically, the fetus was a person too. Imagine that.

@carsoncorcoran6487 6 ай бұрын

having a vulnerable story doesn’t make you exempt from being wrong

@TrexGrimStud 6 ай бұрын

@@mjlawnscapingllc3873 sadly a fetus is not a person ,kid , baby or a child .you have to prove personhood without it a fetus has no rights .

@obsidian2249 6 ай бұрын

@@TrexGrimStud Humans are humans at whatever stage of life their at, life begins at contraception

@mlad5274 6 ай бұрын

Its so ironic that you call her human, when she won't even call the life she murdered that. Wow.

@wmp9391 5 ай бұрын

I mean the women that came stood up when asked “who have had an abortion” sooooooooooo brave

@l_p2980 2 ай бұрын

As a biologist I always cringe at these pro lifers because they don’t know what they are talking about. A seed is not the same as a tree, a fetus is not the same as a grown and developed human that has the capacity

@ouo7343 Жыл бұрын

Big hugs to Wylan for sharing her story at the start - I was flabbergasted when Constance started talking after her. Wylan just shared a story of CSA and Constance thought it was appropriate to start pitching for pro life organizations - how tone deaf.

@thatoneterrifiedfrog Жыл бұрын

the way Wylan just went totally silent for the rest of the vid too, i feel bad for her, Constance was so insensitive

@aidanaldrich7795 Жыл бұрын

I mean, do you think most girls know about what pregnancy resource centers provide? I thought Constance did a great service to expecting mothers in the US

@afairyist9981 Жыл бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795 Constance is part of an organisation that stole aborted fetuses, so that's fun, completely insane.

@Kittles932 Жыл бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795 crisis pregnancy centers are never, and I mean never enough support. Children are incredibly expensive, and a mother will need more support than in just the first few months. It’s a fantasy to believe otherwise.

@aidanaldrich7795 Жыл бұрын

@@Kittles932 Enough support for what? They are just meant to get new moms on their feet

@louisamillerout Жыл бұрын

props to alexandra--she really stood up for herself and completely shut down others trying to disrespect her and misinform others.

@TheNewNationPodcast Жыл бұрын

We must’ve watched two different videos bc she didn’t “shut down” anyone.

@louisamillerout Жыл бұрын

@@TheNewNationPodcast i mean “rebutted”

@MrWhammy Жыл бұрын

@@TheNewNationPodcast not even close

@Mj_Duke Жыл бұрын

@@TheNewNationPodcast She shut down Candace dmbas multiple times😊

@arendari8757 Жыл бұрын

but her analogies were mostly faulty

@brileehenry4161 4 ай бұрын

y’all shoulda just scrapped this whole episode at the halfway mark due to Constance 🙄 not even gonna get into how apathetic she was, she was literally just flat out rude.

@kumaranvij 3 ай бұрын

One of the forced-birthers called Planned Parenthood a business. PP a non-profit organization. It is not a business in that it does not make a PROFIT, which is what businesses are designed to do. It charges fees in order to pay for things like rent, salaries of staff, etc. No one is getting rich off performing abortions, at least not at PP. Perhaps at a fancy private hospital where you get your own room and very nice facilities. PP serves its communities well with clean rooms, competent and caring staff, etc., but it is definitely a no-frills operation.

@ameliacondon9874 11 ай бұрын

i have so much respect for the two girls who shared their story of having an abortion. especially because of the fact that they knew people would of attacked them afterwards. it’s so hard to have people completely blindly attack someone for their situation.

@skylamunyaneza7233 10 ай бұрын

exactly especially bcs they havent told their parents. it must take so much courage to share that

@AlphaAbyss_ 10 ай бұрын

You do realise it was a debate so in order to establish your point you have to run the risk of offending the opponents

@th0m4xs70 9 ай бұрын

@@AlphaAbyss_ They are talking about the people in the comments. It is not at all justifiable to attack somebody personally because they disagree with you.

@AlphaAbyss_ 9 ай бұрын

@@th0m4xs70 yeah you do realise what was said was entirely relevant

@user-tn2pz7ze2o 9 ай бұрын

Lmao pro abortionists literally burn down crisis pregnancy centers but how dare a pro life person hurt her little fee fees the horror of it woo

@imdva 11 ай бұрын

I love the part where constance raised her voice to overpower alexandra so that she couldn’t get even a single word out. constance just because you have pent up rage and resentment does not mean you have to be disrespectful. everyone was VERY respectful in letting you say what you wanted to.

@MarieJameson-ps9nq 11 ай бұрын

If you want to talk about overpower I think that is what Alexandra did when she murdered her baby

@clarkkent4665 11 ай бұрын

She raised her voice because alexandra was interrupting her point

@ichijixi 11 ай бұрын

@@MarieJameson-ps9nqnah it wasnt

@wolfboy20 10 ай бұрын

@@MarieJameson-ps9nqhol up what does that have to do with constance being a major outspoken prick who can't let others talk?? 🤔

@risingfire7 10 ай бұрын

@@MarieJameson-ps9nqIt was not even a baby

@ladylea9039 Ай бұрын

when braedon said he’s not in a financially stable condition to adopt a child whilst advocating against the termination of pregnancies by women who aren’t in a financially stable condition to have a child 😅😅

@elwo4855 26 күн бұрын

bro when constance was just going "you do not, you do not you do not you do not." it actually made me so mad and the fact that alexandra was still respectfully sitting there is commendable, personally me anger issues could never.

@LailaKazem Жыл бұрын

I think Alexandra’s arguments were too advanced for some of the other cast members to even comprehend… lol. You could see them with confused faces as she gives the most well-developed, intelligent responses I have ever heard someone give regarding autonomy and reproductive rights. Alexandra for president honestly

@isauldlc-qj5qe Жыл бұрын

Bro it's not that smart - anyone who has read or listened to anything small thing related to abortion knows the main arguments of the feminist pro-abortion movement.

@VicWho1213 Жыл бұрын

@@isauldlc-qj5qe Que es cual?

@txbaca4861 Жыл бұрын

So men can not be fathers if they don't want to be...? Consequence free evasion of court mandated child support is a thing?

@tatyanavillegas6315 Жыл бұрын

agree

@sadafmo7363 Жыл бұрын

@@isauldlc-qj5qe They were smart because they used philosophical arguments, arguments based on rationality and reason. Whereas the other side only relied upon religion. The former being more complex and complicated than the latter.

@KrisUniwolf Жыл бұрын

Alexandra is extremely well spoken and nailed everything. Props to her

@aidanaldrich7795 Жыл бұрын

Too bad she is a person who believes some people are lesser than others

@cheerioboiesc2194 Жыл бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795 you don’t actually care about the unborn clumps of cells, you care about controlling women’s bodies

@queen_shake Жыл бұрын

@@aidanaldrich7795 the only person who believes that is you by saying that 🤔 as you are judging how she perceives based on a 45 minutes video only abt abortion.

@aidanaldrich7795 Жыл бұрын

@@queen_shake pro abortionists, just like slave owners, inherently believe some humans are less than others. Do you believe a fetus is less than a born baby?

@AJ-lm5dl Жыл бұрын

@@queen_shake Abortion is literally the dehumanization of the most innocent and defenseless human beings for the sake of one's convenience.

@LeejieLextar 5 ай бұрын

Alexandra is so sensible and intelligent. The way she argues is so well put together.❤

@kaylinismissing 5 ай бұрын

31:45 nobody’s arguing for the slaughter of human beings, people are arguing for women’s rights

@iceblaze3043 18 күн бұрын

That’s not true, there are people who argue for the slaughter of human beings.

@feltfirefox 9 күн бұрын

I am afraid that those are two sides of the same coin.

@user-zn7gq2jl8m 2 күн бұрын

nobody's arguing for women's rights to be taken, they're just arguing for basic human rights. they'res always going to be another problem, so can we all just take a seat and give someone a hug?

@LexiWeeks-ls9bs Жыл бұрын

Constance was rude, disruptive, and did not listen to the other side. Alexandra was amazing at coming back at her and giving calm answers.

@cornpeal8945 Жыл бұрын

I would have felt so frustrated if I were Alexandra. Constance was just straight up offensive at that point.

@Melissa-xo6xm Жыл бұрын

@@cornpeal8945 it’s like her goal was to try to get a reaction from the pro choice.

@clarkkent4665 11 ай бұрын

Constant completely destroyed their shitty arguments. The core point of alexandra and most pro abortion people (after they fail to establish a fetus as a parasite or a non human entity) is that

@SuzyL35 10 ай бұрын

Y’all are such snowflakes 🤣 Of course the pro life side is going to be more disgruntled … CONSTANCE IS LEGIT PREGNANT. The protection of life has become so irrelevant to everyone

@RiyaAdvani7 10 ай бұрын

@@SuzyL35if u are so "protective" that u can't have a civil discussion, then don't participate in a literal discussion. I swear force birthers are so dense everytime 🤦🏽‍♀️

@queky3434 10 ай бұрын

i don’t think i’ve ever seen someone with so little empathy and so much disrespect as constance. how dare you disregard someone’s trauma and grief because you believe your personal beliefs are better than theirs and provide a reason to guilt them.

@TheEverFreeKing 8 ай бұрын

No you're just frightened that she's a strong black woman telling the truth and expressing her love for humanity by standing up for the rights of The unborn. Constance is a modern day civil rights leader and a hero 💜

@skylerwhiteyo9191 8 ай бұрын

@@TheEverFreeKingthe group constance is a part of (PAAU) stole 115 fetuses from an abortion clinic, some members took them back to their apartments and others displayed them in a box. So..yeah.

@skylerwhiteyo9191 8 ай бұрын

This was supposed to be a 'rescue mission'.

@Jenny-eq2po 8 ай бұрын

@@TheEverFreeKing hmm i dont think so

@globetrotter3956 8 ай бұрын

Does Constance really believe that any woman who is in sex trafficking and being forced to get an abortion will just not be forced to get an abortion if they are illegal? Sex trafficking is illegal… the abortions will then happen in secret. They are still going to happen.

@KenM-ic9bj 19 күн бұрын

Constance is SO delusional. People like this should not be allowed to run for office.

@user-bi3oc2jt4t 13 күн бұрын

Fr, only people with your viewpoint should

@redditinsider17 Ай бұрын

constance basically has nothing to do other than try to tell people how to live

@liadelacruz753 Жыл бұрын

Alexandra was clear and direct and solid with the facts she brought to the conversation. I applaud her so hard.

@politicalanalyst1254 Жыл бұрын

How? She interrupted multiple times and is very emotional, no logic

@Thejinx546 Жыл бұрын

@@politicalanalyst1254 You commenting on every posts shows how emotional you are. I’m still waiting on the logic behind your behavior.

@brentoncarter4275 Жыл бұрын

@@politicalanalyst1254 hey look an emotional reaction

@jaynie3598 Жыл бұрын

she literally works for planned parenthood and wasn’t on birth control and having unprotected sex… i don’t trust a word she says

@PlanetHimOfficial Жыл бұрын

@@Thejinx546 I was about the say the same thing. This person is emotionally commenting on every post. I dont have an opinion on this topic at all however Alexandra made a lot of sound arguments in regards to bodily autonomy and the state and the other girl with the short hair could not understand the argument and pivoted by saying it doesn't make sense

@LoRAlzaa Жыл бұрын

The hostility and the constant disrespect of Constance towards the other panelists primarily the pro-abortion*** individuals is crazy. She is literally the only one who is constantly trying to talk over and interrupt people.

@al-oq1jr Жыл бұрын

real

@marianne5055 Жыл бұрын

Definitely giving Erin "Thats not Vegan" vibes.

@giorgiagiommoni4952 Жыл бұрын

exactly

@karendegraw4832 Жыл бұрын

She was stating facts though. While everyone else was stating their opinion. If you think about it I didn't hear any scientific facts stated on the pro abortion side... hmmm interesting

@renluvsk Жыл бұрын

@@karendegraw4832alexandria literally did multiple times m. try again bud

@jessev2295 14 күн бұрын

You can have all the resources you want, but if the desire and mental/emotional maturity isn’t there then the odds are stacked against that child and parent.

@user-gx7ix6vu9j 2 ай бұрын

Notice how respectful the pro abortion people are from the anti abortions, they wouldn’t let the pros even speak yet they antis are speaking/yelling over people and demanding they be heard, but shouldn’t this be reciprocated?

@jettriggs5388 27 күн бұрын

…respectful? Daphne and Joey straight up rude too be fr

@JulysCabernet Жыл бұрын

Constance didn’t want to hear anyone else, but herself. There was no reason having her there. Also, just because some people had children under certain circumstances doesn’t mean everyone else should have to. Do what’s best for YOURSELF and let other people do what’s best for themselves!

@Oneeeofoneee Жыл бұрын

& as one of the only black woman in the room come on? They should've sent me in there to advocate

@ellis1469 Жыл бұрын

The opinion of an ungodly woman sad what times we are living in

@matthewsisti4382 Жыл бұрын

It’s not for themselves though! It effects ANOTHER human being.

@skeletonhands01 Жыл бұрын

@@matthewsisti4382it’s not a human

@shizuka4253 11 ай бұрын

@@ellis1469 a fetus can only be called a human being AFTER it’s born

@sonyawix5871 7 ай бұрын

Constance was a sour spot of the conversation. Inconsiderate and willing to provide empathy to a concept of human, but not the people sitting with her in the room. Grilled on my nerves the whole time.

@zacm9747 5 ай бұрын

She was great. The sour spot was the one defending herself, not abortion, Daphne. She was invited to debate and she rolled her eyes and made faces faaaaaaarrrr more frequently than anyone else on the panel.

@ultraboy2669 5 ай бұрын

@@zacm9747THIS

@calvinhoward3808 5 ай бұрын

Not a concept of a human, but a human being.

@michaelturley8222 4 ай бұрын

and Joey saying men shouldn't have an opinion on the slaughter of babies.@@zacm9747

@AngelinaSalmon-df1ee 4 ай бұрын

All those people in that room have the privilege of life itself. She is empathetic to the unborn life whose choice is being argued.

@Ashtyn3 17 күн бұрын

I feel like what Daphne was trying to say was if a women was to get SA’d and she was to fall pregnant it would probably be hard for her to have to support a child that she did not want to have nor did she want to birth.

@cristiP2022 Ай бұрын

Constance is such a loud mouth. I think all the other teens are super mature and respectful. She needs to learn to talk to people if she wants to ever learn or be heard

@emilylindquist6592 Жыл бұрын

People also forget that going through a pregnancy could be fatal and has side affects that some people don’t want to go through

@hahahaaha7208 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, idk why people don't bring that up in arguments. Maybe because most women keep the horrible ordeal to themselves.

@colonelsanders5278 Жыл бұрын

Then don't have sex

@renee187 Жыл бұрын

Yeah but the female body was made for pregnancy and is fully capable of it. And yeah, just don't have sex if you don't want to deal with the side effects of pregnancy

@hooman9554 11 ай бұрын

@@colonelsanders5278what do you suggest if someone gets raped

@harlgg 11 ай бұрын

@@colonelsanders5278just don't push your beliefs onto other people wanting control over their own body

@liviavanvlissingen3919 Жыл бұрын

I loved how well-spoken Alexandra was, she sounded so mature and continued to spit facts without belittling the others in the group

@ryanhickman3335 Жыл бұрын

She said some questionable things

@ticiat5832 Жыл бұрын

She seems like a deeply sad individual who is grieving her child, and is using certain logic to try to make herself feel better about her decision

@dunno-19 Жыл бұрын

@@ticiat5832 you do realize there is no way to make that claim valid through these few moments you saw of her in this video...

@ticiat5832 Жыл бұрын

@@dunno-19 You can see her fighting and struggling emotionally with what prolife people were saying. She then admitted she did it because her boyfriend wanted to support her more during pregnancy because of his religious views & didn’t feel he was able to at the time. She quite literally said she’s grieving with her boyfriend daily still.

@weirdo_xo7330 Жыл бұрын

@@ticiat5832 you are making assumptions based on only a few moments you have seen her

@jnkvval 3 ай бұрын

the prolifers are getting on my nerves so much that I don't think that i can even finish this video. all i would like to say is that Alexandra is so mature and handled the conversations so well