JUDGING COMPETITIONS / RED BULL STREET STYLE 2021

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Freestyle Ranks

2 жыл бұрын

Some thoughts I wanted to share about judging.

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@aguskafree 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome points 🙏

@PeGeFreestyle 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this video man! Super interesting and I’ll talk about this with Julio!

@hermenvoerknecht8248 2 жыл бұрын

Great explanation! Really interesting! I agree with all the points you made. Looking forward to the video with Kala

@FreestyleRanks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hermen.

@zdzichuZ 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one, video would be much longer. So many stuff to analize. I agree with the fame of the name issue. That moments show who is a competent judge.

@FreestyleRanks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Zdzichu. I will probably do more videos. Because there is so much to say about judging. And I think if we want to have better judging, we have to talk about all this in an open way.

@theWFFA 2 жыл бұрын

Nice analysis that completely makes sense from your perspective. But there were a few assumptions that were not correct. It is a bit long to go into for a KZfaq comment , but tonight in FreestyleTV on our KZfaq channel we have an episode with Erlend , Lia and judge Javi where we will discuss this topic a bit more.

@jofreestyler4378 2 жыл бұрын

Tres bonne analyse Gaetan, je suis d’accord avec toi sur les points que tu évoques mais c’est vrai que ça mériterait une vidéo très longue avec d’autres intervenants de manière à croiser les informations et se faire une opinion et surtout prendre conscience de ces biais afin d’y répondre d’une meilleure manière. (Notamment lorsqu’on est juge)

@FreestyleRanks 2 жыл бұрын

Oui exactement, ce n'est qu'une première vidéo. Une première pierre. Tu viens de me donner l'idée de faire une vidéo par biais. Faudrait les énumérer et aller plus en profondeur. En faisant intervenir aussi des personnes qui ont déjà été juges pour qu'ils témoignent.

@GlebKarpov 2 жыл бұрын

Good points mentioned. Guess the most important point was to raise the discussion about focus of different fs tournaments. If the competition doesn’t have clear focus (technique-focused, musicality battle or whatever) then the judges naturally decide how this focus will feel like. If the judges are chosen to compose “the balanced panel” then there always will be “controversial decisions” because of subjective perception of freestylers of judges and players. And such discussion cannot be resolved when we say all the criteria have the same weight. To me it’s more fair to say “yo guys it’s gonna be sport-style competition so don’t get mad if your original style will not get as much recognition as it deserves in principle“. Also agree on “fame-name” issue. It’s risky to vote against the “big name” because if the underdog wins then the battle will be reviewed by more people with more attention. Not many people can take such risk when there’s always a safe option.

@GaetanCzaja 2 жыл бұрын

The problem if you give a directive for the competition and judges to judge for ex more music, attitude. It will affect their natural judging and it can be strange. Or maybe freestyler will try too much in an awkward and not natural way to act with attitude to "gain" points. And this can be strange also. If the competition is oriented "music and attitude", just picking a panel that suits to this criteria is enough to me. But it is interesting to test and see. I just say what from my point of view I'd see happening. I may be wrong. Thanks for answering