5:50 .... Nairn was wrong on that point, it was Jill Stein who said Trump is less dangerous than Clinton, not Assange.

Why does it matter how he got the information? As long the information released is accurate that's the most important thing!

Hilary is not a "lesser" evil... this world is fucked if ANY evil can be "lesser"

We love Julian, truth revealer! No matter WHO is doing dirty deeds, expose expose expose! Thanks Julian!

Assange is a hero. The world is better for having Wikileaks. Trump should pardon him.

What we need is LESS information so that people are NOT educated about events. Wait. Wait. That can't be right.

He cares where the information came from, not whether it was true. Nairn calls himself a "reporter".... sheesh

Allan Nairn straight out liar suggesting Assange preferred Trump and got caught out hard.

Just lost all previous respect I had for Allan Nairn. What is going on at Democracy Now these days? Have you just lost your minds since Trump or did you find a new funding sponsor who wants to promote Democratic party talking points?

This guy is a real journalist. The people who give him information are not revealed. Everyone believes him. What other sources of info do we have, that we can trust?

Yes, Julian. We have to stop the party politics argument. There is one politic and it is corporate totalitarianism.

what is the point of having this Alan Nairn person on with Assange??? We hear this all day long

Lotta respect for all these people--I wish there'd been more time for more discussion. And I wish the US govt would stop detaining Assange so he could get out of there and heal from any paranoia or other psychological effects that kind of isolation and oppression can cause.

What an unfortunate guest Allan Nairn is.

There were alternatives. I voted for Jill Stein. When the DNC realized they had picked a criminal gang to lead the party, they should all ethically got behind a third party candidate like Jill Stein. Bernie could have been persuaded if the DNC stepped up do do something ethical. It is so convenient to blame Julian because it is so ridiculous.

Allan Nairn, shut up and let Assange speak.

Let me break this down. It's really simple: 1) Clinton was terrible and Trump is way worse. 2) No one expected Trump to win. 3) Wikileaks attempted to, and succeeded in, revealing the terribleness of Clinton in a way that did maximum damage. 4) Nairn is upset because Trump is president and because Wikileaks bears some small but not measurable responsibility for that. 5) Assange is upset because Trump is president but realizes it's not really his fault and any true responsibility for Clinton losing the election is not on him or Wikileaks.

Good for Assange!

this segment needs 2 hours

Wow, now DN! is doing hit pieces on Wikileaks????

Bottom Line, WikiLeaks provided the country and globe the catalyst for us all to wake up somewhat quicker. A Lot quicker actually. I'll be forever grateful.

It doesn't matter where he got the emails. It's the content that matters. Trying to obfuscate that makes you look like a fool.

Amy, please do a follow up on the Russian smears & our press freedom that concerns you.

This is like David fighting Goliath !! David took that giant down with just one throw but it had to be accurate, it had to hit the target... Julian Assange is doing the same... he has probably taken on one of the biggest fights (if not the biggest) fight on behalf of the human race. We have been living in a sewer and it needs cleaning up and the rats gone. God bless and keep Mr Assange safe.

Allan Nairn spent the entire interview with Jullian trying to interrupt him to frame the discussion... Then he get's an unchecked Monologue from 7:30-10:30 Where he repeats his talking point over and over like a Propagandist. Instead of having a discussion on the substance of the leaks it was a discussion about the Source, Which is purposeful obfuscation in a discussion with an institution whose entire purpose is to protect sources, then when that failed it regressed into the same old Lesser of Evilism discussion that Malcolm X Framed so well in the LBJ V GoldWater election.

I could only watch just over half of this video. IMHO, Nairn's unprofessionalism highlights some of the major issues with today's "journalism." I was interested in listening to what Assange had to say and not the opinions and/or innuendo of an interviewer. I won't be back to this channel.

Wow. at 6:05. Alan Nairn tanks his reputation as a journalist. What a sad spectacle.

Julian Assange's most valuable trait is his unwavering integrity. The world needs him and many more like him. He is intellectually and ethically honest in his refusal to buy into "tribalism," meaning choosing a "tribe" or alleged lesser evil and then defending that tribe no matter how bad its behavior. There are better options and higher priorities than tribalism's groupthink and conformity.. Over past decades, the lesser evil strategy hasn't proved to move the U.S.and the world forward. Think beyond this static, stagnant fallacy. Assange lives the example of baseline human decency, and if more people caught on and did the same we would at least have a chance of reaching what Malcolm Gladwell called a "tipping point," moving the world in a more ethical direction. People who promote the lesser evil view often accuse those who disagree with it of demanding "purity." However, the lesser evil advocates declare themselves the ones who define good and evil, and their standards are extremely low.

Allan Nairn is absolutely wrong. As long as the party can succeed by offering us the lesser of two evils they will continue to offer us the lesser of two evils. But when the party learned that if they offer us the lesser of two evils they might lose they will realize they have to offer us far better candidates. The road Alan suggests is merely the slow road to greater evil it is not the better route.

To me the danger of Hillary vs the danger of Trump is difficult to compare. I'm not sure I'd say one is worse or better than the other. They are both very dangerous but in completely different ways. I think that's part of what Julian is trying to say.

Sorry, but you cannot allow the lesser of two evils be an answer. We would be worse off with Clinton because people would go back to sleep and allow a "democrat woman" do do all sorts of crap with no protest or eyes open to corruption.

"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won’t do." - David Frum

Great interview.

Allan Nairn is a great guy but he just doesn't realize that lesser-evil voting just provides a license for parties to move away from the populace with impunity.

You would have had mushroom clouds already months ago with Hitlery in the WH.

There are no democracies in the world; there are nations which are more or less Republics.

Long live Julian Massage!. Guatemala for centuries has been 1 of the 20 richest countries in the planet in gold, silver, jade, nickel and such beautiful landscape. Guatemala must recover its mayan province of Belice and sue the pirate, criminal and parasite monarchy from the small island of England. God help and protect the men of good will!

shame on DN for playing politics. I thought DN was about the news, I was wrong.

Trump is Crook but DEMOCRATS are not much better too..

Julian schools Naomi and Alan like a boss. Excellent.

So Nairn is upset because... he didn't like the outcome of the election or he didn't like how people voted? Since when is that an argument against information?

"Free at last. Free at last...".

Yes.

Since when is less information better? All information should be available and citizens can make a choice after digesting it.

Can anyone find evidence to back up Nairn's claim at 5:40?

Isn't it odd how the Democrats have become Orwellian?

Assange is a hero. Nuff said.

There is a massive chess game going on in the background. Julian Assange seems to be trustworthy on his own merit, but there appears to be good possibility that he was played by higher powers.

Naomi, politics are political; their nature is direction of policy. Ethics are normative.

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One more point, Assange is not a political prisoner, he is a coward hiding behind the good people of Ecuador (or is Salvador?)

They keep forgetting that the American people by a margin of almost 4 million votes so, no they did not overwhelmingly voted for 45 only because of the electoral college. I am a atheist but with the appointee to the Supreme Court they got it all, god help up us.

Allan Nairn thinks that when truth hurts, it's better to suppress the truth?

Free Assange

UGH, Hillary Lost, she is still trying to pull strings to push Trump into over reaction and I really hope we can all start seeing through this crap.

Something very odd about Wikileaks only publishing stuff on Democratic Party and nothin of the republicans very very odd

disappointed in Mr Nairn's general attitude in this interview....a first

Allan just ruins all discussion with his bias. He argues instead of listening.

And good job protecting your sources Mr. Assange.

Democracy Now is still stumping for Killary. This is why I can't watch you guys any more. Embarrassing.

Allan isn't even on Assanges level ..

And that young man that thought he was talking to the eph bee eye when he was...you know the blank fills.

Gonorrhoea is mostly treatable and avoidable too. Typhoid/Cholera is a more deadly disease . So which is Trump or Clinton?

Larf... on a rational sense this guy is more American than 99% whom say they are.

One, a principled, intelligent journalist. The other, an Australian who coordinated with the Trump campaign.

I think this is the ugliest segment of DN! I've seen ever and I've watched the show since it went on the air with only a handful of exceptions. Why invite Julian on if you're going to set him up against an antagonistic host, against Klein's disembodied and out of context remarks and against Nairn, who apparently has decided he is a pundit and not a reporter. This is why I don't watch and don't recommend any more.

I like all three dissidents. I listen to all 3 to get a more realistic picture of the world. They are all the guys in Plato's cave warning the clueless where they really are. I also like their criticisms of each other: It reminds me that even my 'heros' question each others' motives as well I must. But know that because of their courage and honesty I am better equipped to be a true human.

mr allan picking a side, journalism has to take the side of the truth, and the emails at that time had to be published

From today's perspective of the UK Magistrate's muzzling through torture based on nothing charges, countless expert witness testimony, a fight for a COVID banned mere hand full of journalists, professionals, coworkers, family. Turned away in favor of reserved "VIP" special seating for unattended parties of the UK court. The American lawyers who sat with the state prosecution, have presented no physical case that proves hacking or harm to others. It is they who are protecting war crimes under their first amendment, not his own patriotic rights, as formally declared by the UN Working Group on International Torture. In 2017, the unprepared make up man, his opinions and agreeable facade all washes out in time. Maybe we should put him and the rest of the political class in the gas chamber after Lee Harvey Oswald's State of Virginia CIA strong handlers do it to Julian. Welcome to an inverted totalitarianism transformed into the military empire of economic collapse. People have taken to the streets, and what has it solved? Those people in power, none of them have resigned, just like the bankers were never jailed, just like the unabated polluting and plundering of the planet for a fake currency. I would hate to be a journalist. It really is the end. "But no one seems to wonder, no one seems to care" - George Carlin

Thumbs Up Julian Thumbs Down Allan

disgraceful. I used to really like democracy now. They've sold out and this is a disgrace. shame on you

Julian rules.

Were the releases political, does it matter, and is it valid to even ask the question? I think Klein is right that the timing was highly political. There was no need to time them to cause as much damage as possible. They could all have been released earlier and the public still make up their own minds. If this had been done then any criticism towards Wikileaks would not carry much weight. Maybe a reason for the timing is that WL is in the habit of timing releases to maximise impact and the same tactic was applied in this case as well, unwisely in my view. This creates the overwhelming perception of political bias, whether this was the true intent or not.

Not mentioned point : better chances for pardon with Trump.

and how. what will astound you us why and by whom. We want them alive for their trials but our..."...to respond" is limited by "non interference "

Thanks, Democracy Now!:) i may be idiotic, but Assange is hard for me to Disparage?!:D The Parties do Seem a part of the Oligarchy Problem? Happy Birthday (David Frood)!:D

The rapo isn't looking so good these days. Had he gone to Sweden to answer the charges he'd have been out by now...

Brilliant riposte from Assange.I have a lot of love for the American people but the people of influence even the likes of Democracy now can't or refuse to see that Assange is 100% correct instead of focusing on Trump they should be focusing on destroying the Democratic Party then rebuilding something worthy in its place ......a party of true virtue.

Nairn just stated his position that he prefers Democrats to Republicans thereby rendering him bias and a contradiction to what he is injecting into Assange.

time is running fast

I agree with Noam Chomsky and Allan Nairn the moral choice was with Hillary Clinton when Bernie Sanders was no longer the choice, Trump is already reverting back George Bush type policies with extremist vigour using the nuclear option no previous government had ever dared to appoint the new Supreme Court Judge this move by the Trump administration has entrench the political divide and swept up many Americans into party politics wether Assange likes it or not.

DootDoot Love your comments! Spot on. XO

Despite Assange recommendation that we transcend the two party duopoly the comments on this interview is fraught with partisanship. Hillary is well known for her war crimes. Assange does a very credible rebuttal of Naomi Kline's criticism of Wikileaks for tipping the scales for Trump. "Do I prefer Cholera or Gonorrhea". Still, should the perfect be the enemy of the good? Great discussion. But the Democratic establishment is loath to change. I say its the Zionists at fault.

Thanks, Democracy Now!:) i may be idiotic, but Assange is hard for me to Disparage?!:D The Parties do Seem a part of the Oligarchy Problem?:D

chris hitchens later got frantic over his own promotion of the war of aggression against iraq; Some of those problems are self-eating

Give them some more information

Make america great again

The latter. If wiki gave out leaks damaging to both sides fine

Wow, now in 2023 (July) Allen's talking shit.

Julian is probably regretting all he did for trump now.

very stimulating debate and might i add Mr.Assange is looking most attractive in a lumberjack fantasy kind of way

oh well

How do you cut this conversation short?

Nairn is only voicing his opinion, not bringing facts to the table. Very interesting coming from an 'investigative' journalist.

is Is IS Bill knew from " under the desk"

Yes give the missdirector the last comment when the phrase "deep state" come up

Allen look how wrong you have been

Wow Naomi Klein's take is particularly shit especially after this recent leak of Assange's calls to the State Department.

He reminds me of David spade with the stash and soul patch

Fuck Naomi Klein, her shit is slowly shinning through.