This series has been my ‘go to’ place for all things metaphysical. The topics and discussion points are fascinating and I do feel I’m a better person for having listened to these programmes. Thank you

Back in the day, the days before the internet, all we had was old dusty books and more old dusty books in the library. A few years back I went to a library and saw many of the same old dusty books. Used correctly the Internet can open your mind

Like a fine wine you improve with age. The interviews just keep getting better. Thank you.

Every bit as good as the in-person interviews, excellent quality.

This makes a lot of sense to me. It just 'feels' right. And somehow, I find it very uplifting.

Barbour, to me, is one of the most “out of the box” (note the double entendre) thinkers of modern physics. I can marginally understand him.

Listening to this while taking a smoke break, it's a light rain occurring as he describes it, watching the drifting smoke being moved as the droplets pass thru unhindered,and splash points radiating outward..spiritually, this speaks to me as well..

Really interesting discussion. Thanks so much for everything you do!

Robert Kuhn is superb and his work has enlightened so many of us. Thank you Sir for the marvellous “Closer To The Truth”!

Et les travaux du scientifique Jean Pierre Petit, qui en parle depuis des années : on en parle ou pas ?!! And the work of scientist Jean Pierre Petit, who has been talking about it for years: are we talking about it or not? !! 🤔

this is my favorite of your interviews

When I was younger I pondered how it would be to try and develop and understanding of "the universe" from the perspective of being fish in a bowl looking out through the glass. "Looking" was the piece that struck me .. I felt as observers we are drawn to giving things dimensions and scales and quickly run out of descriptors after that.

As I understand, there were two universes created from the Janus point, the three-dimensional representation of these two universes looks like lotus flowers with petals beginning to fold back on themselves as the expansion becomes great. If this pattern is extended, I believe these shapes curve back and are drawn into the Janus point from each side, the two universes being opposite each other. The universe folds back through the fourth dimension so gets back to the center of the universe at the same time it began, it is a continuous flow so the universe is recreating itself just by existing.

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I enjoyed the discussion very much. It helped me to better understand some of the points made in the book. Julian Barbour takes us to a new way of looking at TIME.

Repeat that please. Beautiful. I love it ! That makes a difference.

As it collapses it makes more structures counteracting or shaping the collapse so it is organised in a particular way. Showing the universe could get more intelligent or complicated each time. And explaining why animals seem to be more intelligent or complex than the ones they replaced.

Augustus de Morgan: “great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ‘em, and little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum” Size is relative, not absolute. Funny really how none of these ideas are new, merely not conventionally accepted. It takes someone to be brave enough to put them all together and shout about them. Well done.

I was smitten with your angular positioning and question of time weeks ago...I feel excited to review it again.

Wonderful interview!

5:00 very interesting idea. Like the ying and yang of the universe.

Thanks for a great discussion

Universal Engines (U.E.'s) contain numerous lesser universes (l.u.'s) that simultaneously expand and contract like heartbeats.* When U.E.'s are "born" the l.u.'s start off in an expansion phase. When the heat becomes depleted within each of the l.u.'s, black holes vacuum up the remaining matter, but there isn't enough material for the black holes to reach a critical mass, therefore they are drawn towards the center of the U.E.'s within the borders of the l.u.'s where they are able to borrow enough energy from the U.E.'s reserves to kickstart the next expansion phase within the l.u.'s. Eventually the wellspring within the U.E.'s will themselves become depleted preventing the further expansions experienced within the l.u.'s. There are as many U.E.'s as there are photons being generated from a star (as an analogy, just imagine if photons acquired an increment of mass after being expelled from the star that generated them). With that said., the universe "we" find ourselves in are one of many that serve as incubators, hatcheries and nurseries for the seeds that are "our" souls (which happen to look like stars, though intangible to physical senses) where germinating within is the only way out. Life is not about fate, fear, love or worship, it's perseverance in determining who, what and why "we" are by choosing to compost the ignorance in/of "our" daily lives, from life to life.** Consciousness is also the developing character within the soul tied to the physical body whether it be made of Mineral, Vegetable or Animal. "God" is a being of essence that, although has already been conceived, can only find actuality through the uploading of information/data that are "we." * which explains deja vus ** flesh is as soil, souls are as seeds and the awareness within is as an embryo Where's my MacArthur Grant? Oh, that's right., I'm only a philosophical prodigy that can recall other lifetimes or basically a no-body. Lol

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I have to say that I better understand Julian's point about entropy than the traditional view. Indeed, I thought that I was stupid when I heard from physicists that the big bang was the point with less entropy and the disorder has been growing up since then and it will continue doing so forever. The big bang was indeed the most uniform state! Thank you Julian. Now I am not thinking that I am stupid. The point about the assumption of the experiment of the second law of thermodynamics is also very interesting. We are always talking about entropy within the universe, but the original experiment was done in a box! That's a clearly contradictory. Great point as well.

Keep up the great work.

I find the declared intention of “Closer to Truth” in the video description interesting. It claims to be “exploring humanity’s deepest questions” and to “discover fundamental issues of existence”. It is perhaps in the nature of scientific enquiry always to be an estimate and always to be wrong. Being open to this concept is how we manage to learn. What is important is how the effect of our current notion of knowledge affects our attitudes and behaviour and the priority that is given, compared with other demands and interests. We need to get that sorted out, if we want to continue with learning in the long-term, rather than following a road to human-created destruction in the short-term. I wish you well.

Yes, variety IS life. I've noticed that when there is parallel adaptation, one of them Will die off. Life doesn't stive on repetitive survival.

it's hard to call any of these excellent when they're all excellent this one is extra excellent

Definitely “closer to truth” with this dude. Bravo Zulu.

Great video.

Thanks!

Changing it shape it shape of the universe greatness

ive just bought the book on amazon... Fascinating, I've always wondered why i had to learn the Schrodinger equation using a particle in a box/constrained potential. 😀

I would point to the Pauli Exclusion Principle to further argue his point. There will always be a difference in the energies of objects therefore there will always be change.

I would love to see a debate between Julian Barbour and Leonard Susskind on the topic of time!

Similar path and thoughts as Howard Bloom. Especially in regards to entropy and the increase in structure.

Dr. Barbour is one of the most brilliant independent thinkers about time and cosmology. His book, The End of Time, should be read by everyone interested in the philosophy of time.

Fascinating stuff!!

Robert Kuhn and his interviews have taught me more about the world around me than any other person. What an incredible guy!

Excellent idea of the Janus point with the arrow of time pointing in opposite directions ( I have an other problem with this as time is actually a scalar, however) as nature abhors asymmetry. So the question is, did all the antimatter flow along the opposite time flow to ours and why antimatter is rare in this universe?

The metaphors that describe science are very important to review and rexamine.

Thinking outside the box. The assumptions have been questioned by many, although not by any of those that you have encountered “ in the box”.

We learn by contrast and detect variety. Decimal expansion is a subtle distinction

24:50, this particular form, according to the Vedas, is the Cosmic Egg. They describe the cosmic egg as the fundamental form of the creation of a universe. In each case of a universe of countless many.

Wonderful ideas.. going to the brink of being fantastical.

Superb

I suggest looking into traditional Buddhist and Vedic cosmologies & notions of "time." Might find it amusing, at least.

The first person who proposed that there are regions of space were time goes in reverse and does not admit light was William James Sidis in 1925 in a book entitled "Animate and Inanimate" He was thought to have had an IQ of 260, and was admitted to Harvard at the age of 11 in 1909.

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Arthur M Young has been ahead of these astrophysicists all along, he proposed the Toroidal shape of the universe, and its eternal cycle in the 1980's, the growth of novelty and movement towards purpose.

Barbour is a genius in my estimation. He is not afraid to challenge conventional wisdom.

Brilliant

So my daughter's bedroom does not have increasing entropy, it's simply untidy!

I like that the more advanced the Physics, the more poetic reality becomes. Really good to see top notch physicists like Julian Barbour “thinking outside the box”! Strangely, Lee Smolin who also criticises reductive “Physics in a box” thinking, in “Time Reborn” comes to an opposite conclusion - that time is real and fundamental!

There are two kinds of things, things and the relations between them. Those relationships can always be expressed geometrically because everything is expressible in relation to space and time. Ratios can be used to express a scale between those things in various relations.

Robert Lawrence Kuhn is the perfect guy for finding truth. Superbly interviews the greatest thinkers of our time(which is no easy feat). Nobody is better at bringing self awareness/reflection to these sort of questions. Thanks for the great work!

Dissipation carries information that is conserved. It can be seed for self organization and build structure

This was very interesting. But I'm quite sure that Roger's conformal cosmology has nothing to do with a collapsing universe though. I will be reading Julian's book. Will we ever understand entropy? Happy Christmas everyone.

Nice video. Philochrony is the theory that describes the nature of time and demonstrates its existence. Time is magnitive: objective, Imperceptible (intervals) and measurable (duration).

I wonder after having watched this: Do growth of structure and emergence of variety equal increasing complexity? Or.ARE these two ideas indeed equivalent to each other? And : If there is supersymmetry wouldn't it account for all of the universe and all of what the cosmos is about like e.g. matter and antimatter? In other words: If there is supersymmetry and we see it occur, wouldn't it have to apply to "the box (encompassing the system) as well? Or was I not making sense at all with this?

Why would there be a limit of 2 universes flowing from the Janus point?

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Interesting. Gotta get and read this book. Always questioned our definition/description of entropy... either key characteristics are missing or our current definition isn't very accurate {and may be completely wrong... logic is: history of developing/changing/improving knowledge on past theories of other knowledge).

I just ordered this book on Amazon

Looking at the Mars pictures on-line today I was made to think about why they were so excited to see variety in the geology....

My mind is still reeling from conceptual overload. Food for thought upgraded to banquet. Thank you.

People try to explain the expanding and collapsing universe as entropy. I think we were all entangled at one point in time so the farther away we get from our entangled particles the more force gets exerted slowing down the expansion of the universe which in and of itself will cause it to recollapse because everything happens in a cycle in the universe. The only way for infinity to be realized is for it to continuously happen over and over and over again forever. Taking into account that this is infinitively happening (including the one universe where it doesn't) then one can only extrapolate (before I figure out what calculations to observe to make it so) that we don't know what is going on other than the universe is big. Really big. And our observations are the only thing that cements reality. Until we observe what we are trying to know the answer is everything. Once we observe the our come is determined and entanglement's hidden force pulls time both ways. 12-19-2020

Life could go on forever.... with movement....!!!!!

I learned in my psychology courses, the engineer's way we accepted to view the laws of thermodynamics is called functional fixedness. I am gladdened to have my thinking plausibly put right. For quite a long while I have been trying to see the universe in a more protean way. Maybe I should call this the "Proteus Principal." The basis for this approach is to consider quantum effects as an expression of accommodation for a likely counterpart to the dimensioned reality we find ourselves a part of and try so hard to know and understand. The "Janus Principle" strikes me as a step in this direction, which may well be the right direction.

All the points covered in the interview point to a promising new model of cosmology. But I get lost in the lengthy discussions in the book. At time times I feel like Barbour is a physicist speaking in tongues. (I wish someone had re-organinzed the book for him.) I'm 2/3rds through Barbour's book and find it slow going despite having an undergrad degree in physics. Also note that Arieh ben-Naim has some interesting books describing entropy based on Shannon's Measure of Information.

Time is the Eye of Love.

Thanks to take me back to the point -again- of “who is right”?

Im not a scientist by any means. But when I read a book about fundamental particles, and that an antimatter atom of opposite spin and (is it chirality?) Traveling backwards in time would be identical to its normal matter counterpart, I started wondering if the big bang was a point and on either side the matter and antimatter separated, which explained where all the missing antimatter was. Maybe.makes less sense than I thought but over the years i keep seeing articles that jive with it.

so what are the implimications of having an unbounded wave function of the universe?

i need to talk with this man cause he said it seems like no one is talking about physics like this but i have come to an incredibly similar concept myself, just listening to ever physics video i can find

No mention of Prigogine, who built his science around the system being not in a box?!! Non-equilibrium thermodynamics was well-developed by the 1970s by Ilya Prigogine. Research of others on evolutionary thermodynamics in the 1980s had firmly arrived at Barbour's conjecture that the direction of evolution is NOT toward greater entropy, but toward growing structure and order (See Theory of Radially Evolving Energy, 1989, Int'l Journal of Gen'l Systems, vol. 16). Barbour's assertion that nobody was thinking of this merely reflects his ignorance. And where is mention of any of the work or theories of David Bohm? Or Stephen Wolfram? My sense is that Dr. Barbour has not read widely enough outside his own historical research and analysis of Einstein's work to realize that he is not ahead, but rather a bit behind the cutting edge of evolutionary theory sub-Planck-scale in his 1999 publication. He has been working maybe in too private an academic bubble?

Consider the metaphor that the universe is not expanding but the physical substrate - some lower layer than yet explored, is thickening. That would explain many problems of expansion.

I understood about 75-80% of that... That makes me feel good lol.

Δ (change over time) is the kernel of the ToE of physics as every material substance and process can be understood in relation to it. Change is the substrate of material reality.

WOW Big concepts.

Time is an illusion. There is only a now. A single pane of moving things.

The arrow of time can be explained by the fact that a function can only have one output for each input. If the universe can be described by one single function, there has to be one and only one dimension in which it is irreversible. I’m not saying that dimension is time, our universe seems to have a lot of dimensions, but time is definitely more closely related to the irreversible dimension than space.

32:00 i think penrose doesn't say it finishes with everything collapsing into a black hole, his idea of "aeons" says the black holes evaporate and what you are left with is a universe populated by particles travelling at the speed of light, and therefore however "big" the universe has become size and time have no meaning, massless particles don't experience time and therefore distance has no meaning - it's a singularity but it can be any size.

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There are 2 types of time. All of humanity's problems in trying to understand it, time, is because their research, scientific views and philosophies are developed within the context of the 1st type of time

Julian is right ... that's all. there will be always a dynamical structure . density vallues do not change. the most part of 'antimatter' stays on the other side of the apparent singularity point, janus point. atomism is scale independet in its true simple logic: structure are independents from atoms relative distances. atoms obviously are non small or big in absolute sense. they are only force center in a structure. their size is fixed by the size of that structure, the structure of universe under observation.

I always said it wasn't expanding from one spot (big bang) - I always thought that there was just eddies and currents in an infinite eternal universe, like smoke swirling around in space. A universe that paradoxically has no beginning, and it has no end. We are already in "forever". In some regions of our infinite universe most of the stars and planets are moving away from each other, while in other parts of the infinite universe everything is all moving together. It's all just an illusion, and it simply depends on what part of the infinite universe that you're in, that will be your perspective.

Julian's new book has just arrived, interesting theory and looking forward to reading in more detail.

Robert should interview Rupert Sheldrake. I think he may find his ideas of morphic resonance interesting. Rupert is highly knowledgeable in science, religion and philosophy.

Vous pilliez les travaux de Jean Pierre Petit....

I was wondering if you are aware that a French scientist called Jean-Pierre petit created quite some time ago The Janus Cosmological Model (JCM) describes the universe as a Riemannian manifold with two different metrics that handle positive and negative masses in general relativity with no paradox, in very good agreement with latest observational data.

Great book. Read it during lock down. Think I grasped it. Not completely sure.

7:09. No doubt.

Cyclical is the only truth I come up with in the end of every theory. Caos into order, before it spirals out again. The biggest thing is the smallest, the furthest thing is you self.

He was wise to get out of the academic ratrace. I know a physicist who did that since you are only "allowed" to have a certain class of theories if you expect advancement and tenure - or sometimes keeping a position at all. Still, I wonder how Google Translate is impinging on the translation business. A little more AI and they'll all be out of business 😀

Is janus point close to Bimetric gravity, a model called the "janus model" by Jean Pierre Petit?

How did electromagnetic wave(s) start? Do electromagnetic waves come from gravity?

Julian Barbour and Roger Penrose need to talk...Penrose’s cyclical universe also talks about maximum entropy at time 1.0 and role of gravity gravity ...

Smaller than planck length can be measured with time? Certainty of classic matter becomes probability of quantum energy that might be measured with time?