Gateway Elder apologizes to congregation for Robert Morris scandal

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Julie Roys

Julie Roys

Ай бұрын

Gateway Elder Tra Willbanks apologizes to the alleged victim of Robert Morris and the congregation for the child abuse scandal involving Morris on June 22, 2024.
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@PattiEmminger
@PattiEmminger Ай бұрын
It should be Robert Morris publicly apologizing to God, Cindy, the church, the public and EVERYONE else he deceived. Period.
@rogerhernandez9675
@rogerhernandez9675 Ай бұрын
I agree 100% still waiting
@laurenmay2098
@laurenmay2098 Ай бұрын
I would be like that pastor caught with a prostitute. He cried like a baby. Lost everything, and his name was in the mud. This is only to repair for tv and membership sake. They know people will stop sending money. They are just trying to stop the fire that already reached the ceiling, unfortunately.
@Keepitoriginalministry
@Keepitoriginalministry Ай бұрын
Yes!
@michelleselby122
@michelleselby122 Ай бұрын
I do also agree
@user-ej6ox4lf4b
@user-ej6ox4lf4b Ай бұрын
Damage control 101
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 Ай бұрын
To many churches want a pastor with charisma more then a man with integrity.😢
@user-cr8xw9wi6j
@user-cr8xw9wi6j Ай бұрын
And a leader in general.. look at MAGA… 🤷🏻‍♀️
@bill2066
@bill2066 Ай бұрын
yes, the big elephant in the room, that everyone is ignoring, is that morris was also one of those prosperity Preachers, and has duped millions out of people. Like Hinn, Copeland, Osteen and all the rest of them
@faeljeri5139
@faeljeri5139 Ай бұрын
That’s true and that’s why all this is happening. The religious system is so wrong!!
@barbaracurrie3187
@barbaracurrie3187 Ай бұрын
You are so spot on!
@user-cz1ot2wh4w
@user-cz1ot2wh4w Ай бұрын
Has RM been doing this act still?Or is this fron he was youngster?
@ShalomUSA
@ShalomUSA Ай бұрын
No one can apologize for another persons actions. Period.
@ddrules9294
@ddrules9294 Ай бұрын
@@ShalomUSA the church is responsible because the elders should immediately remove evil from the pulpit
@ignitedfw
@ignitedfw Ай бұрын
He was apologizing for the elders role not Morris.
@user-mi9nv6wy8j
@user-mi9nv6wy8j Ай бұрын
Apparently he is now in hiding, I think he is remorseful as if his daughters could have been in this situation.
@Clothed-with-His-Glory
@Clothed-with-His-Glory Ай бұрын
He didn’t because he should never set foot on the platform again.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 Ай бұрын
Yes, they can. That's kind of how authority works. Parents apologize for their kids; managers apologize for their employees; commanders apologize for their subordinates; God-With-Us apologizes for his creation's sin. It is called taking responsibility, yet it must be paired with disciplinary action or else be in vain.
@prayerwarriorterri6242
@prayerwarriorterri6242 Ай бұрын
Everyone needs to read their bibles. It's the only way you will make it through the coming times. Keep your eyes on the Lord.
@siphokaziluzipho4197
@siphokaziluzipho4197 Ай бұрын
It's becoming evident the Christian journey is personal. We should look only to Christ. This man, and the elders who knew failed their church. This would have remained a secret had Cindy not had the courage to fight. The church should only pray she is the only victim.
@prayerwarriorterri6242
@prayerwarriorterri6242 Ай бұрын
I also pray there are no other victims. I was a victim from sa from a family member. It started at age 5. I never said anything to anyone until I was in my 40s. My prayers are with anyone who suffers sa.
@skeetabomb
@skeetabomb Ай бұрын
@@prayerwarriorterri6242 That's terrible to hear. I'm very sorry this happened to you. I hope you have been able to find healing and move on. We can only look to Christ. He is the only one who can save us in the end.
@prayerwarriorterri6242
@prayerwarriorterri6242 Ай бұрын
Amen! God is my healer and my strength.
@michellelewis6914
@michellelewis6914 Ай бұрын
Don’t forget Cindy’s Father was clergy too! Not Excusing RM abuse but I’m wondering what stopped Cindy’s Father from pressing charges against RM?
@stjohnbaby
@stjohnbaby Ай бұрын
This is/was a criminal act.
@michaelratcliff3080
@michaelratcliff3080 Ай бұрын
You know, I think the thing with Pastor Robert is I’m just grieved. And I don’t wanna hear what anybody else has to say. I want to know what he hast to say. Because using the discernment I’ve had, Pastor Robert speaks truth and knows Jesus. I want to know what Pastor Robert has to say and what God has to say, but I will not be distracted by what the media and everybody else is saying.
@stephm5877
@stephm5877 Ай бұрын
So as long as someone teaches truth, they can sexually assualt little girls? Is that your narrative? Demons know the Bible. We're supposed to discern spirits via fruit. You dismissing his behavior is part of the problem. A man of God would be righteously angry and want justice.
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration Ай бұрын
The time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration Ай бұрын
The time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@therisenteam3054
@therisenteam3054 Ай бұрын
@@michaelratcliff3080it’s that attitude that got Gateway into this mess. Morris has had blatant serious issues for a long time, theologically and spiritually. You got to open your eyes to see it!
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 Ай бұрын
One big embarrassment. This kind of stuff is why many unsaved souls think christianity is a joke.
@AS-oj3cw
@AS-oj3cw Ай бұрын
I do wonder how many hearts he has now hardened for the last time and they will now spend eternity in hell.
@fitrunner1317
@fitrunner1317 Ай бұрын
Indeed! It’s misrepresentation of who God is who Jesus is and the true gospel. So we must pray and be the light
@user-cr8xw9wi6j
@user-cr8xw9wi6j Ай бұрын
@@AS-oj3cw we are warned about these very heretics throughout the bible. A perfect example of those we have been instructed to avoid is MAGA. Stirrers of doubt and controversy in our communities, the Ones Who Preach The Loudest. How many have turned away from the gates of heaven because of their convoluted example of how to live by Gods word? God will not look kindly upon them during theirJudgement. This makes me so so so angry. And i rememberChrist in the temple, turning over tables and asking His Father for guidance in how to process his rage. How….? Indeed….
@nezlquasie
@nezlquasie Ай бұрын
JESUS IS KING
@rhondarudkin8863
@rhondarudkin8863 Ай бұрын
Sadly, you are correct😢
@SandyLaFlower
@SandyLaFlower Ай бұрын
Im very sure attorneys have warned Robert not to make any public statements.
@xsportsrc3817
@xsportsrc3817 Ай бұрын
There's no escaping for him now, since they demanded a NDA from the victim and she has spoken up.
@petefults5984
@petefults5984 Ай бұрын
@@xsportsrc3817 they didn't demand a NDA.
@user-vw4zn1hz8b
@user-vw4zn1hz8b 5 күн бұрын
What is an NDA ?
@mitsu-tg8qx
@mitsu-tg8qx Ай бұрын
Cindy’s father should have told the police when it all came out when she was 16.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 Ай бұрын
Unless there wasn't any actual crime. It's possible she might have been the aggressor.
@mitsu-tg8qx
@mitsu-tg8qx Ай бұрын
He admitted to it!
@brianboisguilbert6985
@brianboisguilbert6985 Ай бұрын
@@mattk6719A 12 year old girl?!! use your brain for something besides a seat cushion
@1Corinthians2.2
@1Corinthians2.2 Ай бұрын
@@mitsu-tg8qx12 year old girl aggressor against a grown man??? WAKE UP!!!
@petefults5984
@petefults5984 Ай бұрын
@@mattk6719 I'm wondering how her parents or Debbie did not know she was sneaking into the room Robert was in. For 4 and a half years? I'm sure Debbie slept with him most of the time but still. I don't get it.
@leroyng
@leroyng Ай бұрын
The whole board of elders should stand with him on the stage to apologize.
@kingswaydaughter7324
@kingswaydaughter7324 Ай бұрын
Absolutely…..but it is possible this was not a secret to everyone.
@scottnmarj
@scottnmarj Ай бұрын
Yes absolutely, this guy was not there when Cindy sent the letter . Why are the elders being cowards, The whole thing is sickening .
@RhondaMartin-gs3rx
@RhondaMartin-gs3rx Ай бұрын
And they should all resign too.
@veryy12
@veryy12 Ай бұрын
The elders that hid the secret, need to step down, covered up, just as guilty in sin.....
@salt1956
@salt1956 Ай бұрын
If the elders knew, they should resign. How on earth did his wife stay with him learning he abused a child for over 4 years while married to her?
@Irbyfamily1988
@Irbyfamily1988 Ай бұрын
Why would the newer elders be held responsible for something they did NOT know?? It’s the ones from early on who hold responsibility.
@joshuajacobs5691
@joshuajacobs5691 Ай бұрын
It happened before the church existed. What would they be responsible for? Please make rational sense.
@mmcneil777
@mmcneil777 Ай бұрын
I agree. They send someone out there, who is a new elder, to do their dirty work.
@sharonclark4343
@sharonclark4343 Ай бұрын
One thing that has become apparent to me, is that when he did confess initially to having an affair with a young lady, regardless of who it was, the elders should have always have investigated from the other side. They never even asked to know who the young lady was. If she wasn’t underage, it would be worth reaching out to her in any case.
@moniquewrites9046
@moniquewrites9046 Ай бұрын
He’s the only one who had no idea and had clean hands? A theory.
@sylvia4alvarez
@sylvia4alvarez Ай бұрын
Look people. They did have a meeting with the father and this woman who is coming forth now. This has not being a secret. She wants to be compensated and should be.
@joycewolf3920
@joycewolf3920 Ай бұрын
Having served in the church for many years as a woman in ministry, I can tell you that at this point there is a church full of people who have been wounded. This is not about damage control for the media, social or otherwise. This is about the remaining leadership trying their best to bring hope to this congregation at a very dark time. The reminder that God has worked in and through the people is still truth. It is still God’s church. He hasn’t changed His mind about the people and the demonstration of the Gospel they have carried out for years. Instead of the criticism, consider and PRAY for this congregation and the future of the ministry that God has given them!
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 Ай бұрын
Well said. The first comment I've read that hasn't jumped to conclusions and casted stones. There are no sinless pastors.
@evirgil84
@evirgil84 Ай бұрын
Amen!
@elohim7778
@elohim7778 Ай бұрын
We are all sinful people in need of God's grace and mercy. My family in not perfect either. We are all work in progress. Having said this, I still believe that we must have the fear of God residing strongly and firmly in us. Fear of God equals obedience to Him and His ways. Easier said than done, I know. Weave God in our daily moments. In our standing, sitting, talking, relaxing, resting etc. In all aspects of our lives. God sees our hearts and He will act on our behalf. Life is filled with ups and downs but we have our good God to turn to in times of needs. Amen.❤❤❤ Pray unceasingly for your church leaders. To cover them from subtle attacks of the evil one. God bless all of you richly.😊
@Littledove-mw1ed
@Littledove-mw1ed Ай бұрын
God Bless you Joyce Wolf, this was a wonderful insightful, utterly inspired comment! Thank you Dear One--fellow servant of the most high God😊❤❤❤
@Littledove-mw1ed
@Littledove-mw1ed Ай бұрын
​@elohim7778 Thank you, God Bless you too Dear One❤
@lyndalightburn6988
@lyndalightburn6988 Ай бұрын
Such a sad situation- please don’t let this allow you to walk away from God. Man is flawed. God is not. Pray for this congregation.
@TinaDaSilva7
@TinaDaSilva7 Ай бұрын
If he’s shocked and truly filled with remorse, why wasn’t Pastor Morris fired ??? he was allowed to resign…
@susanma3483
@susanma3483 Ай бұрын
Maybe they were in disbelief. Either way he won't be pastoring again. It was shocking to see such poor judgment on Robert and Debbie's part. May God heal everyone involved.
@mesquitegirl2013
@mesquitegirl2013 Ай бұрын
@JesusFollower1960 because sadly since the statue of limitation had passed on Cindy‘s case currently, I don’t think there’s anything they can do because there’s no part of the child laws in Texas that allow them to be able to try somebody for something that happened years ago, especially once the statue of limitations was passed which I think they said at the time the abuse started the statue of limitations in Texas and Oklahoma where she grew up with two years. I don’t know why her or anybody else that found out about it immediately report him to the police probably because they were afraid of his position and what he might try to do if they did, according to Cindy, her dad had given an ultimatum either resign or I’m calling the police or the sheriff. I think it was actually what was said. I wouldn’t have given an ultimatum. I would’ve immediately called the police, especially when my child safety and well-being is being violated and abused shouldn’t have been in abuse
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration Ай бұрын
The incident was happened before Gateway church was established.
@lisamayo7657
@lisamayo7657 Ай бұрын
They say they didnt know it was a child. 🤷‍♀️ Did he resign b4 they could fire him? 🤷‍♀️.....the statue of limitations are up for criminal prosecution. I dont think (whether child or adult) he should have been restored to pastorialship
@kellycarey5663
@kellycarey5663 Ай бұрын
Her recovery should be completely compensated , and then some for all she suffered
@timothystandley8777
@timothystandley8777 Ай бұрын
We were told not to follow man,this apology needs to come from The man that has deceived the sheep.
@laura-cg7vl
@laura-cg7vl Ай бұрын
This is the elder leadership addressing the sin and crime as well they should. Although RM should also publicly do this the elders also need to as this man is. The elder board should be THE senior leadership over the entire staff and body.
@brendaburton392
@brendaburton392 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@emelinabrincat9071
@emelinabrincat9071 Ай бұрын
Cowards and liars are not capable of repenting.
@lovethegrandkids3732
@lovethegrandkids3732 Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t allow him back on the stage at this point
@jmspegel
@jmspegel Ай бұрын
If he truly has repented and now has Jesus in his heart, is this how Jesus wants us to behave?
@ricksarmiento201
@ricksarmiento201 Ай бұрын
My wife and I both had one word for this...pathetic. This guy...crocodile tears and a bunch of banter about their commitment to truth.....as if we are all that naive. Shame on you all...elders...elders of what? Being complicent in this entire mess.
@nellyorr304
@nellyorr304 Ай бұрын
Agree!!!
@mrnice111
@mrnice111 7 күн бұрын
Yep. Bunch of losers worried their rain maker is gone.
@duncancassie7747
@duncancassie7747 Ай бұрын
Trust God when you pray it works. He said all we need to do is ask in prayers. My testimony spans from penury to $57,000 monthly, and you stay and doubt that he doesn't answer prayers. Make that altar now and spend time there. A change is in the way. Amen!!!
@ayafakiri
@ayafakiri Ай бұрын
I definitely know this fosho! Prayer works wonders
@sabrinalysa
@sabrinalysa Ай бұрын
In Christ alone my hope is built and anchored. I am a work in progress and in due time he makes everything beautiful
@sabrinalysa
@sabrinalysa Ай бұрын
But hold on, how do you get all that in that period of time? Mind sharing?
@duncancassie7747
@duncancassie7747 Ай бұрын
Oh yes! In him alone
@duncancassie7747
@duncancassie7747 Ай бұрын
And thanks to the digital market. So much folks are getting the good side of it
@jeneseholbert9536
@jeneseholbert9536 Ай бұрын
Also uh they knew she said something in 2005 and they tried to force her to sign a gag order. Its sick
@Ronpaulians
@Ronpaulians Ай бұрын
It is just painful to me. I have not found nobody in Ministry to help me. Predators' enablers always start with "It's the hardest thing for me". I don't believe this elder. As a survivor of a long chain of crimes and abuses in 2 evangelical churches, I am 100% sure that you had seen many predatory behaviours in that wolf and he always used scriptures to excuse them and that all his previous victims of his greed, verbal abuse, etc, were despised. This kind of predators do not work alone.
@hotpinkjalapenos
@hotpinkjalapenos Ай бұрын
And he wants to pray for u his tears are conjuring see how he looks up to see if it's working.. PLAY Q SONG MONEY MONEY MONEY .. gateway to hell . I threw my son's n my baptism photo in the trash this morning ur whole root has poisonous branches all in my grandparents town ... Tricky tricky tricky
@nancylee1625
@nancylee1625 Ай бұрын
Well said.
@GregoriaRill
@GregoriaRill Ай бұрын
Not true more knew but the money was still coming in . The piece of crap Robert morris said sermons about how he prey on young girls who didn’t have a father figure in their lives . He told on himself on more than one occasion. Why wouldn’t someone look into the details before they gave him a position of being a pastor . Anyone who keeps attending this church is almost brainwashed if the congregation doesn’t hold those in position accountable for overlooking his wrong doings . Prime example of a Wolf in sheep clothing because of the dollar . By the way don’t forget to give money 😡
@christieprince6991
@christieprince6991 Ай бұрын
Where is the evidence 😞 OR is it based on Rumors? Fortunately there is a commissioned comprehensive independent investigation and we are going to hear ALL sides to this saga. Everyone is going get those due process. After ALL The Lord Christ was absolutely Sinless and PURE, HOLY Son of God, and yet the crowd hailed and cried Hossanah to the highest towards him one day and the next day Cried Crucify Him! EVERYONE shall stand before the Judgement throne and give account of themselves and account for ALL they have done -- unto God
@redeemedbygodsgrace1971
@redeemedbygodsgrace1971 Ай бұрын
It is so evident that Abba Father is exposing & cleansing His church! 🙏👆✝️👆🙏
@LG-br3fe
@LG-br3fe Ай бұрын
Judgement begins in the house of God. Search me oh God and see if there be any wicked way in me and lead me in the path everlasting. The fear of God is needed in the church. I pray for healing for all involved.
@Runner8617
@Runner8617 Ай бұрын
I don't see any cleansing being done, that church is still FILLED to the brim with 🐑 and the Morris's are filthy rich off those 🐑. But God is definitely exposing it all, that's for sure.
@OGRTVFan
@OGRTVFan Ай бұрын
How so?
@user-mi9nv6wy8j
@user-mi9nv6wy8j Ай бұрын
This has certainly sparked women all over the world to begin to come forward. I used to attend Gateway Church and I left because of the doctrine that Robert Morris preached on an Easter Sunday. But now the latest scandal of RM, I am soooooo disappointed with his actions. God is cleaning his church.
@daliamontoya2783
@daliamontoya2783 25 күн бұрын
Amen
@digitalwasabi2
@digitalwasabi2 Ай бұрын
He has the gift of crying without shedding a single tear.
@cheryla786
@cheryla786 Ай бұрын
He is only concerned about HIS financial position now within the Church. His prepared speech is so non-believable. Alarms went off when some of his first words were..... I didn't know......they all KNEW, but no one was strong enough to speak up and question the situation and say WHAT YOU DID WAS WRONG. No one ever thought this would happen and they felt they were safe covering up the truth.
@ShelovesJesusandElvis
@ShelovesJesusandElvis Ай бұрын
Sometimes you can’t cry tears ! 😭 I personally couldn’t cry at certain points in my life. It was worse!! I wanted to but the tears wouldn’t come till later! Please stop judging!!
@ShelovesJesusandElvis
@ShelovesJesusandElvis Ай бұрын
@@cheryla786 I believe they didn’t know !! They SHOULD HAVE but they trusted him. !! 😢. Same as everyone who ever watched him or followed him! ❤.
@r.fortner4661
@r.fortner4661 Ай бұрын
@@ShelovesJesusandElvis she asked the church for money to pay for her psychological counciling. They offered to pay only half of what she asked and also asked her to sign an NDA!!!
@petefults5984
@petefults5984 Ай бұрын
He has tears. Zoom in.
@maxmoore2076
@maxmoore2076 Ай бұрын
None of this rings true. Crocodile tears why did no one ask some searching questions that establish the facts?
@wrshpr4lf
@wrshpr4lf Ай бұрын
My heart is with you Church. Hold on to everything you know to be true about Jesus. Focus on Jesus right now. let Him heal you.
@elizabethhernandez1964
@elizabethhernandez1964 Ай бұрын
She was a kid no excuse ……
@suzanneosteen1285
@suzanneosteen1285 Ай бұрын
Morris is a pedophil and needs to be held accountable for his crimes!
@rainchazzer6308
@rainchazzer6308 Ай бұрын
You know sociopaths can "cry" without having a single tear too
@rachaelbrown7771
@rachaelbrown7771 Ай бұрын
Yea I didn't see any tears....
@patrickshing9206
@patrickshing9206 Ай бұрын
The whole leadership should step down.
@howardrosen3736
@howardrosen3736 Ай бұрын
Not your place to apologize.
@matthewterry9413
@matthewterry9413 Ай бұрын
Yea it is
@JeniBrandt
@JeniBrandt Ай бұрын
@@matthewterry9413no it’s the pastors job. Not the elder board members since he didn’t commit the act.
@matthewterry9413
@matthewterry9413 Ай бұрын
@@JeniBrandt there is no pastor. He is removed. it’s called responsibility. Corporate guilt, and corporate repentance.
@ignitedfw
@ignitedfw Ай бұрын
@JeniBrandt Silly, the elders job is oversight. Obviously there was none.
@mitchellneth
@mitchellneth 28 күн бұрын
I agree Robert should apologize, but had he been the one to do it to the church from their stage on a Sunday, there would be just as many comments here blasting him and the church for giving him a platform and claiming he's still the one doing damage control for himself. It seems to be lose lose for the church regardless of how they dismiss the fallen leader.
@rhondaschraub771
@rhondaschraub771 Ай бұрын
Morris’s son should not take over as pastor. Robert would still have his ear. Your church should be allowed to vote on their next pastor.
@ebenoit72
@ebenoit72 Ай бұрын
What is it with pastors passing over the church to their offsprings like it’s their kingdom?
@Chuck-qi8pw
@Chuck-qi8pw Ай бұрын
Church members will make the final decision.
@graniteguy8410
@graniteguy8410 Ай бұрын
He acts like he's a KING
@kevinjones6440
@kevinjones6440 Ай бұрын
To keep the money in the family.
@christieprince6991
@christieprince6991 Ай бұрын
I think he founded the Church and the Lead General overseer
@brendaclark8053
@brendaclark8053 Ай бұрын
WOW judgment is beginning at the house of God 😊 No more hiding behind the Church
@Linda-ot3pj
@Linda-ot3pj Ай бұрын
Robert Morris taught me some things I will never forget. I pray for him. He is our brother and I’m sure he is hurting There are dark places that we all came from, and places that were dark and unregenerated. It took time for our crooked ways to be made straight .
@jamesmaina9041
@jamesmaina9041 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately in this case RM has never been truthful of the whole incident but he's been lying about the victim and accusing her of seducing him. He needs to truthfully repent for his vile acts for his own soul's sake
@petefults5984
@petefults5984 Ай бұрын
@@jamesmaina9041 where did he say she seduced him? I would like to view that too
@trinawms3749
@trinawms3749 Ай бұрын
Preach this
@nanzirirhene1128
@nanzirirhene1128 Ай бұрын
Agree with you
@samvijaysenan
@samvijaysenan Ай бұрын
We need to tell the truth..truth has come out...but we have to pray for Pastor Robert ..God in his mercy used him to build the church.. He is paying for his consequences. It's time to pray for all who are hurting.
@KelliHilario
@KelliHilario Ай бұрын
Was he allowed to resign so that he could keep his 401K and controlling interest? There are legal reasons for resignation instead of termination. Usually financial in nature.
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 Ай бұрын
Bingo
@Steadfast_Steady_Strong
@Steadfast_Steady_Strong Ай бұрын
I’d be interested to know if he resigned before they had a chance to fire him.
@user-mc8di2ch9d
@user-mc8di2ch9d Ай бұрын
Send an older elder next Sunday, please.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 Ай бұрын
Exactly. He won't lose his benefits.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 Ай бұрын
We knew of a pastor many years ago that was in a denomination for years. He just took off with his then girlfriend, went to another state and married her. He literally abandoned the church. There were other issues as well. He was retirement age. A few people from the church went to the state headquarters to let them know what had happened. They went ahead and gave the man his retirement benefits. But as far as I know he was not in ministry anymore. The girlfriend he married ended up having the marriage annulled a couple of weeks after they married. I don't know why?
@kevinharris3993
@kevinharris3993 Ай бұрын
Robert Morris should have addressed the church. Morris should have been fired and an outside committee should name the successor because if Morris son takes over the church, Morris continues to have influence regarding the church. The Elders supported Morris even when Cindy informed them she was only 12 and Morris was 20. It was only after the story hit mainstream media that the Elders claimed they didn't know all the facts. I am praying for restoration for all parties involved including Morris because it would be shameful for Morris to go to hell for unrepentant sins. God is giving Morris a chance to really repent and stop lying. Morris and his wife owe Cindy an apology. I am really praying for the church because they have been lied to for over 35 years by Morris and the Elders. I don't believe some of those Elders didn't know the truth. Why did the Elders release a statement supporting Morris once Christian Post published the article that Cindy was only 12? The church doesn't need tears from Elders. The church for once and for all needs the truth. Morris isn't the only person that needs to repent
@elizabethcurylo6158
@elizabethcurylo6158 Ай бұрын
Yes I agree what you wrote ! I feel this same ! I have been believer for 40 years and I left Gateway 3 years ago but went to Shabat on Friday nights there ! Praying for full repentance and his son shouldn’t pastor Gateway ! He needs to open his own church if God is calling him to do that !
@BbCc-uf8fu
@BbCc-uf8fu 24 күн бұрын
@@kevinharris3993 they can’t Handle the truth becuse they really are Chris- Islam. 12 year is perfect age for an annointed married preacher to have cucúbine. He is practicing Christ Islam so did victims family needed to go to cops. Oh no they too were Chris- Islam where father makes the decision on behalf of 12 year old who had been sex toy for married man and molested for over 4 years damn people are Chris Islam
@ccak1121
@ccak1121 Ай бұрын
They all played dumb for money!!!😢
@daliamontoya2783
@daliamontoya2783 25 күн бұрын
Yes
@tanyaernst270
@tanyaernst270 Ай бұрын
Sniffling with no tears. He passes in and out of emotion like a switch. That’s impossible. This is a rally more than it is repentance.
@pamelaeason1982
@pamelaeason1982 Ай бұрын
This is extremely sad. I feel so bad for the congregation. A lot of tears over all of this
@1Whipperin
@1Whipperin Ай бұрын
Jesus commanded against titles amongst the brethren in Matthew 23: 8-12. No one in the NT had the title Pastor. Pastor is a titled abuser that makes himself the focus of the gathering rather than the one anothers encouraging one another.
@michelleselby122
@michelleselby122 Ай бұрын
IF I was one of the Elders and was asked to speak to the congregation, I would have said, “ Robert, I love you. You are the one who needs to speak to the congregation. You are the one who has hurt and upset so many people who have also loved and followed you. I am one of them and will be sitting with the congregation. I did not violate this child, you did. Take full responsibility for your actions.” I personally would have had some shred of respect if Robert Morris spoken to the church.”
@laurenmay2098
@laurenmay2098 Ай бұрын
Yes, thanks, agree 100%.
@RedNicole22
@RedNicole22 Ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said except the respect part. I do not respect a pedophile, even one that claims to represent Christ.
@karenmartin4221
@karenmartin4221 Ай бұрын
I’m curious to know if they will still let Robert’s son take over the leadership role after Robert’s resignation.
@kevinjones6440
@kevinjones6440 Ай бұрын
Of course, he will take over the family business.
@reginaldarimado4032
@reginaldarimado4032 Ай бұрын
Why, how did RM hurt them, RM was very open about his sexual immoral past. Dothey have to be very specific? Then, all elders and pastors, should narrate all their past sins.
@sashajames3991
@sashajames3991 Ай бұрын
“Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap. “1 Tim 3:1-7.
@oliver0656
@oliver0656 17 күн бұрын
Religion is the antithesis of Christ's word. It is the perversion of Christ's word and it has been the reason for many wars throughout history. Christians are being aligned because of the utter hypocrisy on display on so many fronts this man sounds phony. His tears sound forced
@jewelzinbox
@jewelzinbox Ай бұрын
There are so many things wrong with this. It's clear, the body of Christ doesn't understand The Cross.
@valeriethomas4168
@valeriethomas4168 Ай бұрын
That was the most insincere display of emotion I have ever seen!
@Mutasis_Mutandis
@Mutasis_Mutandis Ай бұрын
Agree!
@SandraLira-gq8oj
@SandraLira-gq8oj Ай бұрын
And the Academy Award for lousiest actor goes to: The Clown on stage yaking.
@nikkistinson6322
@nikkistinson6322 Ай бұрын
To the last guy....PETER was being persecuted! Oh my goodness . NOT the same kind of " trouble" your pastor is in.
@MrAlissahk97
@MrAlissahk97 Ай бұрын
My thought exactly. Inappropriate comparison and use of scripture. Everything here is wrong. If he got away with it in his 20's and he's now in his 50's or 60's, there are more victims.
@laurenmay2098
@laurenmay2098 Ай бұрын
​@MrAlissahk97 I think he is 62. I can't imagine how many more, but he sure didn't stop it at one.
@giftyadu7569
@giftyadu7569 Ай бұрын
You are spot on !!! Always twisting the word of God to manipulate the sheep! Seriously, I pray more exposure of ALL hidden things, a deep cleansing and fir this deception to end!!
@katethielmann4244
@katethielmann4244 Ай бұрын
You are missing the point. Morris groomed and poked and prodded a child from age 12 to 16. That is a crime. CRIME. THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARE OUTRAGED. The hypocrisy.
@marcelguerrero9957
@marcelguerrero9957 Ай бұрын
And they can knock it off with the music. Just going along like it's business as usual. As if we are praying for someone who may have lost a job or received a cancer diagnosis.
@stephaniebergmann80
@stephaniebergmann80 Ай бұрын
If I was member of this church I would have never gone back.
@dfwguy7149
@dfwguy7149 Ай бұрын
well, observe and take note who stays and defends gateway and you'll have a pretty good idea of who to avoid in life.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 Ай бұрын
If you were a member of his church you'd know it wasn't his church. You'd also know that this whole scandal reeks of political subterfuge: it is an election year and Robert Morris had connections with Trump. He's also at least the third big church pastor in the Dallas area to step down this year. The timing is strange.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 Ай бұрын
​@@dfwguy7149 pure bigotry.
@trinawms3749
@trinawms3749 Ай бұрын
​@@dfwguy7149 ok
@rosemaryh1114
@rosemaryh1114 Ай бұрын
Please let me know when you find a perfect church. There is not one church that is without sin. Just the one that Jesus is preparing for those He calls and they respond. Look at all the Jews that cried crucify Him yet Jesus prayed to His Father for they know not what they do. We as Christians should be praying for Robert Morris soul.
@11bbqbob
@11bbqbob Ай бұрын
Aside from the egregious act, which I am not discounting, it's sad to see all the people that are in attendance there. People, it's time to get out of Dodge!!! The Law firm was hired to protect their backside - WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!
@user-td3ky9hc6r
@user-td3ky9hc6r Ай бұрын
But the church knew he had engaged in sexual misconduct and they let it slide. They are equally culpable.
@michellemiller347
@michellemiller347 Ай бұрын
Their sexual misconduct, and then there’s pedophilia the church was not aware of the age of Cindy. They were told she was a young woman and had a Jezebel spirit and was flirtatious. They were very unaware that this was a minor should have been fired. Should be in jail yesthere are plenty of people and plenty of pastors who have committed adultery bat pedophilia I don’t think you should have a place in ministry
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration Ай бұрын
The time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@Cwood79
@Cwood79 Ай бұрын
How do you know they let it slide?
@joshuajacobs5691
@joshuajacobs5691 Ай бұрын
Culpable for an act that occurred before the church existed?
@patriciawright1371
@patriciawright1371 Ай бұрын
According to what I'm hearing, this man and others are saying. They knew he committed an immoral act but did not know it was a child.
@BarbaraMorin-nk2kz
@BarbaraMorin-nk2kz Ай бұрын
Once Elders knew he committed adultery with a "Young Lady," they should have disqualified Robert Morris from preaching. They are complicit. Lord, help the victims of this horror!
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 Ай бұрын
She wasn't a young lady. She was a child. A young lady is someone at least 18 or above who is young.
@margaretsmith1507
@margaretsmith1507 Ай бұрын
The first question I would have asked is "How old was the young lady?" I believe they asked, too.
@Ronpaulians
@Ronpaulians Ай бұрын
Agree. Predators' enablers always start with "It's the hardest thing for me". I don't believe this elder. As a survivor of a long chain of crimes and abuses in 2 evangelical churches, I am 100% sure that you had seen many predatory behaviours in that wolf and he always used scriptures to excuse them and that all his previous victims of his greed, verbal abuse, etc, were despised. This kind of predators do not work alone.
@joshuajacobs5691
@joshuajacobs5691 Ай бұрын
He would have been 20/21 when he would have had the affair with a “young” lady. Not sure whether people would say who was it with, when they understood the Elder board at his prior church (Shady Grove) had already dealt with the restoration process…
@dawnzimmerman6818
@dawnzimmerman6818 Ай бұрын
@@joshuajacobs5691- and married with a young son in 1982 when it all started!!
@jcj2007
@jcj2007 Ай бұрын
Give this man an Oscar! Such crocodile tears. I hope he truly wept for the victim.
@mrnice111
@mrnice111 7 күн бұрын
He did. We all saw it. Bahahahaah
@mitsu-tg8qx
@mitsu-tg8qx Ай бұрын
The elders should have notified the police years ago. Child molestation is a crime!!
@dantheman909
@dantheman909 Ай бұрын
Morris lied to them.
@petefults5984
@petefults5984 Ай бұрын
There were no elders when he confessed.
@vee10403
@vee10403 Ай бұрын
As a former Gateway member, I hope people will realize that this church is full of people who love the Lord regardless of these leaders twisting scripture. Unfortunately you now have Jimmy Evans blessing a man’s divorce to marry the new widow Joni Lamb, and Robert Morris twisting words such as “young lady” to talk about sin, Etc. Think what you may about these leaders, but there are real families here that could sure use our prayers. That’s what I will be doing 🙏🏻
@debsad7500
@debsad7500 Ай бұрын
Well said.
@lilit384
@lilit384 Ай бұрын
I agree. I was caught up in a false church for years. The members of Gateway must pull away, become Berean’s, gain courage, and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit and stop suppressing the truth in unrighteousness.
@saintbees2088
@saintbees2088 Ай бұрын
Gateway members may learn that they need to think for themselves.
@graniteguy8410
@graniteguy8410 Ай бұрын
Joni Lamb I can't watch anymore
@reedermh
@reedermh Ай бұрын
I haven't heard this about Evans. What is the story on this?
@greeneggslamb9336
@greeneggslamb9336 Ай бұрын
Most High, be with this church Family. 🙏🏾💜
@peterkruger9011
@peterkruger9011 Ай бұрын
Interesting, I have not heard one single comment from church leadership on the foundational topic of repentence and forgiveness. If you sin to such an extent as Pastor Robert did and then you repented and put 25 yes plus I to doing God's work, are you not having a Damascus road experience ? Is the work done by Robert Morris a throwaway? Our family has gained enriched spiritual knowledge from Gateway as have many others over the years. I only year this horrible baying for blood, not a single shred of compassion or forgiveness.
@arcasa73
@arcasa73 Ай бұрын
Stop calling what is a crime a sin. Pray if you want for these people, after calling the police.
@andysung1026
@andysung1026 Ай бұрын
We are Christians. This is our language. He’s not an attorney. And what is different if he calls it a crime v sin?
@stjohnbaby
@stjohnbaby 24 күн бұрын
@@andysung1026 Seriously,I'm a Christian too,we are to follow the laws of the land!It's a sin,and a crime!!! Don't minimize the trauma of victims.
@andysung1026
@andysung1026 23 күн бұрын
@@stjohnbaby calling it a sin or a crime is not minimizing what is done. Going in front of the church and apologizing is very much honoring the victim(s)...
@pamelaeason1982
@pamelaeason1982 Ай бұрын
No tears. The sniffles were dry. Not saying he isn't hurting but ple5 please don't fake emotions. That didn't help at all
@dfwguy7149
@dfwguy7149 Ай бұрын
they all did their performance and were back at robts cushy $6 million dollar estate having lunch and brainstorming after the service. This is business NOT heart... there's $millions at stake here. I'd have found another church for sunday myself.
@katethielmann4244
@katethielmann4244 Ай бұрын
He resigns, they accept it and his son takes over. How interesting how that works.
@TheIceManCooketh
@TheIceManCooketh Ай бұрын
Oh he did?
@angelbarrett4477
@angelbarrett4477 Ай бұрын
I heard that his son would not be taking his place.
@time2pray777
@time2pray777 Ай бұрын
@@angelbarrett4477 i hope you are right, I would want all of the elders to be gone to resign because they failed. I understand this Elder is crying, but he should’ve apologize for not knowing any better and not holding Robert accountable and asking the right questions years ago. I would leave the church if it’s the same elders.
@walterzelaya5990
@walterzelaya5990 Ай бұрын
@@time2pray777 The elders that he came forward to where different ones, Gateway didn't exist yet.
@dfwguy7149
@dfwguy7149 Ай бұрын
@@angelbarrett4477 It was on James Robison show sometime in the last 6 months...Morris and his son talking about the switch...Robison even said it surprised him.
@jacquiehenifin5541
@jacquiehenifin5541 Ай бұрын
Most jobs would fire you for that abuse and report it to the authorities. This makes me sick that the church covered it up.
@vlc1954
@vlc1954 Ай бұрын
No more mega churches. Too much deception and corruption. Pastor wasn’t fired? Turned over to the authorities? I am sickened by this crap happening over and over again.
@sharieblossom
@sharieblossom Ай бұрын
Gateway Church you better put a stop to the victim blaming coming from your supporters! It needs to STOP!
@user-dq3xx2yr3l
@user-dq3xx2yr3l Ай бұрын
He should be fired.
@dantheman909
@dantheman909 Ай бұрын
Sometimes when you fired someone they are entitled to severance. So letting him resign could be the best option.
@lindatheodorou389
@lindatheodorou389 Ай бұрын
RM needs to be arrested.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 Ай бұрын
Why?
@lindatheodorou389
@lindatheodorou389 Ай бұрын
@mattk6719 Slashing Mica's tyres. In some countries, that is classed as attempt of causing bodily harm to another.
@21trips
@21trips Ай бұрын
What about the elders who offered her $25,000.00 of hush money years ago?
@CaroleSusan
@CaroleSusan Ай бұрын
This was well spoken, genuine, heartfelt and compassionate. Thank you, Elder Tra, for sharing your heart, speaking justly and keeping it all real. Thank you for not blaming, shaming or making excuses. That was refreshing 💒🙏
@jolewis2057
@jolewis2057 Ай бұрын
Katt Williams was right about these false prophets. The reason why these so-called pastors' gross behaviors contues is because their congregation allows and make excuses for these false prophets. My faith is in God, not man. This man has sniffled and cried with no tears🤔
@jld4870
@jld4870 Ай бұрын
Right on…Not I (man) but Christ!
@kelliem1562
@kelliem1562 Ай бұрын
He was actually prophetic in Holy Spirit and all these you know would not have received that Word from someone like Katt. I think how great God will use who He wants to show up the wicked.
@jolewis2057
@jolewis2057 Ай бұрын
@kelliem1562 Again, my faith is in God, and not man, especially those prosperity pastors who think that they are about all else because they anoint themselves as such.
@roberts4587
@roberts4587 Ай бұрын
But Kat Williams is a sinner himself… he doesn’t know CHRIST and what he says isn’t of GOD.
@kathysheppeard2178
@kathysheppeard2178 Ай бұрын
There are girls that have gotten married at 13 and 14 years old. Maybe she liked it and was in on it because she liked him and had crush on him. They don't even know what really happened yet. Wasn't that like 30 years ago?
@tinakempf5845
@tinakempf5845 Ай бұрын
I couldn't get past 2:52 sniffling and whining, then right back to a normal voice. Everyone knows what you 'should' say. I'm tired of it all. I just need Jesus, not this.
@soundthinking1534
@soundthinking1534 Ай бұрын
This is what evil looks and sounds like.
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration Ай бұрын
The time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@mimimack6905
@mimimack6905 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jo_jo-dt9sl
@jo_jo-dt9sl Ай бұрын
Right? Doesn't seem genuine with the fake tears
@tomy8339
@tomy8339 Ай бұрын
​@@CMMC-immigrationYou've been replying with the same scripted comment. Go away.
@mjwallace8953
@mjwallace8953 Ай бұрын
Any preacher that can’t handle being questioned about their actions doesn’t have the a godly spirit in them. I’ve grown up Pentecostal my whole life and I’m tired of pastors thinking they are not accountable! They want to get in a pulpit and call people Jezabel’s when their hearts are full of pride. God is separating the mega pastors who are loving power and money over holiness! Robert Morris has blood on his hands for not exposing those criminal acts when he said he repented! I hope and pray the church gets an humble man leading them!
@christabewley
@christabewley Ай бұрын
Nothing will change. They will all stay and move on, sweeping it under the rug!$
@dudeinrok1
@dudeinrok1 Ай бұрын
This is amazing…. He’s emotional, yet still talking about the priority of building Gateway Church!!! This talk is like a TED talk. It’s all about their church, not even appealing to The LORD Jesus Christ for mercy and His forgiveness on their church or church staff…. What an act! And the emotional music in the background of the second speech. Total manipulation of the church members. Take your eyes off of the tragic events of the victims, and make the church pastor and staff the center of focus….”FEEL SORRY FOR US… WE LOOK STUPID AND COLD AND HEARTLESS AS WE TALK TO YOU!!!! …. FEEL SORRY FOR US, THE STAFF AND LEADERS OF GATEWAYS CHURCH!!!” This is awful. All the congregation should walk out and find a true biblical church to attend.
@Runner8617
@Runner8617 Ай бұрын
Notice how he's trying so hard to avoid eye contact and looking up at the audience? A sign or guilt, and lying?
@MH-yk2gy
@MH-yk2gy Ай бұрын
They knew about Cindy for years but covered it up. She brought this to their attention over a decade ago.
@nanzirirhene1128
@nanzirirhene1128 Ай бұрын
He talked about God and Jesus the owner of the church. Don't listen and watch with an objective to criticize. He is doing the right thing
@godshealed9093
@godshealed9093 Ай бұрын
Wow! So many people on here are so judgemental!So many caddy and ungodly comments. You wont be happy til you have blood from Robert Morris. God is the judge and knows the true intentions of a man's heart. I dont attend Gateway but I'm sure similar situations occur at large and small churches. This is a terrible thing that has occurred and this Lady named Cindy, the victim has suffered dearly and needs healing and whatever else that might help her, but as born-again believers in Christ, we are to pray ernestly for all involved, not condemn each other. If jail time is what is needed for Robert Morris, then God knows that. Guard your tongue people and watch what you say. The devil is definitely in the details and he's having a field day with this, dont give him anymore.
@LH-ot5rk
@LH-ot5rk Ай бұрын
I think you mean “catty”. 🙄
@djpeeler2912
@djpeeler2912 Ай бұрын
I came to realize that God's justice is restorative, not retributive in the manner that Man's is. Can both the perpetrator and the victim be restored?
@srae9902
@srae9902 Ай бұрын
Robert Morris was disqualified from ever preaching/teaching again. Believers follow God and His Word not a man. Belivers are called to judge righteously other Believers or those that claim to be ones.
@lilit384
@lilit384 Ай бұрын
I suggest you o back and study your Bible because it clearly instructs us on how to deal with 🐺 like Morris.
@ebenoit72
@ebenoit72 Ай бұрын
God is the ultimate judge but He also commanded us to judge each other’s actions. In fact Paul told us to rebuke elders that are in sin PUBLICLY
@zerozero9085
@zerozero9085 Ай бұрын
"accepted the resignation"?! Why wasn't he immediately fired? I guess he walks away with his pension intact?
@Tears77529
@Tears77529 Ай бұрын
And a newly built mansion to retire to! Pitiful!!
@debsad7500
@debsad7500 Ай бұрын
This was so loving. We on the outside looking in although disappointed, aren’t impacted as personally as Gateway. “KEEP YOUR EYES ON JESUS…” Hebrews 12:2 There will be folk standing along side this congregation in prayer. ❤🙏🏼
@juanitawebb1703
@juanitawebb1703 Ай бұрын
Praying for your church.
@timroyster1044
@timroyster1044 Ай бұрын
My question is where were the elders not doing an investigation 30 years ago? What are you hiding? No, it’s been an injustice to the victim Also entire congregation?
@joshuajacobs5691
@joshuajacobs5691 Ай бұрын
That was a different elder board at a different church. Shady Grove Church which doesn’t exist any longer.
@petefults5984
@petefults5984 Ай бұрын
There were no elders when this happened.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 Ай бұрын
Jump to more conclusions.
@gussu9308
@gussu9308 Ай бұрын
Because Getaway church didn’t even exist when that happened. And he was put down from the pulpit for two years and he received the forgiveness of her father and her family. But she contacted pastor RM again back in 2005 ….for … Please read the whole story so you can understand before you judge
@user-sq4jz9up6g
@user-sq4jz9up6g Ай бұрын
They should have called law enforcement not "restore" him
@batatasol8540
@batatasol8540 Ай бұрын
No more Morrises to lead the church! The elders need to hire a new senior pastor who is not one of Robert Morris's sons!!
@angelbarrett4477
@angelbarrett4477 Ай бұрын
I understand not wanting the sons to be in leadership. But please don't be mean to them. The kids and grandkids had nothing to do with Robert's sins and crimes.
@dfwguy7149
@dfwguy7149 Ай бұрын
@@angelbarrett4477 um...this stuff gets passed down generationally..the fathers sins curse generations...yes, God can individually break the curse for us.
@Pumba424
@Pumba424 Ай бұрын
Well Robert morris is worth 116 million dollars and hasn’t received any jail time so as far as I’m concerned, these are all empty words. How many elders knew about it and helped cover it up for so long? More than 0.
@jamesmaina9041
@jamesmaina9041 Ай бұрын
I think his victim should sue to get some of that money. She will never recover what she lost but some of that money can be put to use to help other victims of these sexual predators 🙏🏽
@sherryhodges2707
@sherryhodges2707 Ай бұрын
Learn what the whole story is and then you will understand
@Pumba424
@Pumba424 Ай бұрын
@@sherryhodges2707 I understand you defend men who touch 12 year old girls. You’re sick.
@Pumba424
@Pumba424 Ай бұрын
@@sherryhodges2707 I understand you defend grown men who touch 12 year old girls. You are sick.
@mattk6719
@mattk6719 Ай бұрын
​@@jamesmaina9041 Aren't you assuming a lot? Victim? Let's not forget this is an election year and R. Morris had connections to Trump.
@tanyawatkins7206
@tanyawatkins7206 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. This was the right way to begin to deal with this.
@vaportrails7943
@vaportrails7943 Ай бұрын
He should never have been preaching, ever. Those who knew and let him continue were in the wrong. I always thought he was a grifter fleecing the church for money, but didn’t know how bad it was.
@gussu9308
@gussu9308 Ай бұрын
Wait ! So you don’t believe on this: 2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all His benefits: 3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases; 4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies” Wow, some Christians are more harsh than God himself 😳
@JacquelineMelgoza
@JacquelineMelgoza Ай бұрын
Heart wrenching but a beautiful example of a talk with family. So many tears and it’s not even my church but we are still the family of God! Prayers and love and healing from the Comforter. 💝
@Drshakababa
@Drshakababa Ай бұрын
We’re so used to preacher emotional manipulation that it appears phony.
@digitalwasabi2
@digitalwasabi2 Ай бұрын
Not a single tear. I don’t believe ANY of these people, they are all about spin, coverup, NDAs and damage control. I would NEVER return to that “church.”
@su....
@su.... Ай бұрын
sadly, i can't help but agree
@SimoneMarie4
@SimoneMarie4 Ай бұрын
Yeah
@sveabryan9126
@sveabryan9126 Ай бұрын
I know. It reminds me of amber heard fake tears and vocal fry.
@SandyLaFlower
@SandyLaFlower Ай бұрын
Something about how Robert exaggerated about many things.. he has even commented on how Debbie would correct him on this.. some preachers act like being behind the pulpit is like being on stage. Like a fan club. Other pastors included.. use your own discernment when a pastor gets into the drama of preaching, and not the Holy Spirit, it is a spirit of self aggrandizement, which is pride. I truly believe the pastors that started with a pure heart have fallen because of the pride of the fans... I could be wrong.. we still need to pray for the body of Christ as a whole regardless..
@charleshadnot2152
@charleshadnot2152 Ай бұрын
We have all sinned and should be thankful for God's Grace.
@therisenteam3054
@therisenteam3054 Ай бұрын
We don’t expect that from the spiritual leader of the largest church in America!
@Elizabethvaughan1
@Elizabethvaughan1 Ай бұрын
Absolutely and the Bible is clear this man would have been disqualified from ever being a “Pastor” in the first place . Whoever it was that ordained him and allowed him to lead is culpable .
@TrBdunn
@TrBdunn Ай бұрын
@@Elizabethvaughan1wrong. Paul murdered Christians, repented, and wrote most of the New Testament. Forgiveness. There is forgiveness. If not, tell all your sin and let’s see.
@dawnzimmerman6818
@dawnzimmerman6818 Ай бұрын
@@TrBdunn- but this pastor of the largest church in American Sexually Groomed & Sexually Abused the daughter of another pastor started when she was aged 12 on Christmas Dec 25, 1982. Imagine how Christmas is for Cindy every year since then.
@Elizabethvaughan1
@Elizabethvaughan1 Ай бұрын
@@TrBdunn all murders by Saul were done before his conversion. As for my sin ,it is under the blood of Jesus Christ and I have repented . I am a woman therefore I would never seek a pulpit ministry . What about you ?
@JamesYourTrainer
@JamesYourTrainer Ай бұрын
They should be all standing and applauding the victim for staying strong!!! Not standing for supporting that apology 😅
@EnlivenWellness
@EnlivenWellness Ай бұрын
I cannot imagine how difficult this was to do. That was a great statement, pastor. This must be so awful to be going through as a congregation. I’ll be praying for everyone being deeply shaken by this…including Cindy and her family❤
@pamhollett6382
@pamhollett6382 Ай бұрын
These elders are just as guilty as Robert Morris covering for Robert all this time is despicable!!!!
@TheRriley7
@TheRriley7 Ай бұрын
He may have been in the dark. He’s only been an elder for 10 years.
@lissieRiv
@lissieRiv Ай бұрын
The elders had no clue! They are all shocked. All they knew was that Robert had immoral behavior. in the past.
@user-de4mm8su4b
@user-de4mm8su4b Ай бұрын
They did know follow the Justin Peters Ministries.
@aliwatters8111
@aliwatters8111 Ай бұрын
​@@lissieRivWrong. They made him an elder at the age of 29, 3 years after their knowledge of the abuse- allowing a predator of children (a pedophile) to "minister" congregations for years. Police were not involved. They protected him, further abusing the victim. They ARE complicit.
@ThePreachingOfHisWord
@ThePreachingOfHisWord Ай бұрын
They were under Robert's false prosperity teaching. Money is all they care about. They have failed as a church.
@jeneseholbert9536
@jeneseholbert9536 Ай бұрын
Robert Morris needs to be in jail and get no financial gain no 401 k nothing and his wife to. She knew and called that little girl and told her she forgave her. It's sick
@mesquitegirl2013
@mesquitegirl2013 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, that probably won’t happen because of statue limitations I’ve seen lawyers being being interviewed in other videos saying that at the time the abuse was happening both in Oklahoma and the state of Texas the statue of limitations was like two years now laws have changed, but there’s nothing that would allow you to try somebody for something that happened years ago relating to child abuse my thing is why didn’t anybody reported immediately once they found outthey were afraid that my child would’ve immediately once she told me or I found gone to the police
@user-cz1ot2wh4w
@user-cz1ot2wh4w Ай бұрын
It is sad but let a man without sin cast the stone. RM has done a terrible act but there is redemption for everyone of us as long as we repent of our wrong doings. RM is like any other man on the face of the earth that sin. So let us not be vile in our judgment. Temper sin with forgiveness Christ has demonstrated it in His walk.
@user-jm2tc3uq5l
@user-jm2tc3uq5l Ай бұрын
He’s an unrepentant liar. In 2005 the elders knew.
@brendaburton392
@brendaburton392 Ай бұрын
Yesss. The wife covered for him. God does not approve this . He calls for repentance with accountability and consequences.
@bobbiejoyce1402
@bobbiejoyce1402 Ай бұрын
You might want to get your facts straight before commenting. Robert Morris did commit sexual child abuse and should face the consequences.
@bobcardinal8596
@bobcardinal8596 Ай бұрын
Thankyou lord for your Grace and Mercy 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@stevesmith1493
@stevesmith1493 Ай бұрын
Gateway Church is GONE! Period
@vickitrotter3404
@vickitrotter3404 Ай бұрын
I'm gagging.....I cannot stomach religious superiority!!!
@brenthandycts131
@brenthandycts131 Ай бұрын
Hot seeing any religion or superiority being displayed here. I am seeing a guy who is in charge of a group of leaders telling people what the leaders are doing and saying he is a father with children, girls and is probably feeling what everybody else is.
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration Ай бұрын
The time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@yawkay299
@yawkay299 Ай бұрын
What is religious superiority? The guy looks sad and disappointed. I can’t tell if his sadness is genuine or not? He says he has been in the church for 18 years. And if he didn’t know about Robert Morris’s past, then surely he would be shocked that the man who appears all good and has been a friend, a leader, an example, did something like this way back. Hopefully, there are no other victims. But justice and the law must be allowed to have their way.
@jennifergriffith4526
@jennifergriffith4526 Ай бұрын
​They offered her half ($25k) of what was requested ($50k) to help w therapy only as "hush money!" She had to sign an NDA! Would you have settled? ​@@CMMC-immigration
@trooper190
@trooper190 Ай бұрын
Tears? Now? Really? I can't even listen to this. I'm outta here.
@peta-gayejamieson3106
@peta-gayejamieson3106 Ай бұрын
All the elders should be present. Not 1 person speaking on behalf of....smh.
@laurelfran3850
@laurelfran3850 Ай бұрын
Listen to what she says your Pastor did to her as a 12 year old child. Now picture yourself as that 12 year old child. Now picture your child as that 12 year old child going through that.
@gussu9308
@gussu9308 Ай бұрын
And at 16 … 17 .. ? 🤔
@PretzelBubba
@PretzelBubba Ай бұрын
I can't imagine why anyone would stay in a place with leadership like this. It's not just the horror show of Morris and his wife, it's also these lawyered-up yes men circling the wagons to protect them with this charade of crocodile tears and carefully-worded statements. What a disgrace. Then the congregation stands and dutifully *applauds* this??!! It's like when the congregation gave a standing ovation for several minutes for James Lindell of James River Church a couple of months ago after his disgraceful "sermon" when he savagely tore Mark Driscoll to shreds just to protect his own reputation. What on earth is going on in these churches???!!! As someone else commented, no wonder people want nothing to do with Christianity. Smh.
@kehcat1
@kehcat1 Ай бұрын
The thing I don’t understand is why no one believed her earlier?
@Peano2017
@Peano2017 Ай бұрын
That's wat I thought and wondered.... something wasn't dealt with wen she was younger, or maybe the parents didn't do enough back in the day.... then it's brought up 35 years later idk.....
@stacymartin4730
@stacymartin4730 Ай бұрын
Evil
@bettywood2548
@bettywood2548 Ай бұрын
Why didn’t her father take this to the police when he knew about what happened to his daughter
@CMMC-immigration
@CMMC-immigration Ай бұрын
That’s a lot of questions we should look deep into it. How come the parents didn’t notice especially in this assault situation. 12 years old can’t hide that well. And the time of incident was happened before Gateway church was established. Church still offered her $$, obviously not enough.
@enolagoodman
@enolagoodman Ай бұрын
Yes my thoughts, what happened from age 12-16. How could this continue? Did the parents not call the police?
@StandUp777
@StandUp777 Ай бұрын
Elders, you are also accountable to God for this. As overseers, it's your job to be in the know. Shame on you. As an elder, you were more concerned about the business than the truth. Can barely stand to watch this.
@mombythesea2426
@mombythesea2426 Ай бұрын
I just read the story of David and Bathsheba last night and watched a few teachings. Since everyone compares a sinful pastor to David. And the teacher says Joab was just as guilty as David, because he helped get Uriah killed as part of a coverup. Point being, David sinned, his subordinates helped cover it up, and now everyone involved is guilty of murder. So, I think all elders involved in a coverup are guilty of the sin they’re covering.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 Ай бұрын
In many churches elders are just a bunch of yes men, or women.
@StandUp777
@StandUp777 Ай бұрын
@@sharoncrawford7192 Sad but true. This is a perfect example.
@mesquitegirl2013
@mesquitegirl2013 Ай бұрын
Oh, I mean everybody’s gonna get their punishment even if they don’t get legal repercussions on earth they have to speak to God one day and why nobody immediately didn’t report the abuse when it was come to light as it was happening is shocking to me because he had, he wasn’t as popular as when it started so he wasn’t very well known at the time so why would you be afraid of that especially when your child is the one being abused, so many people failed Cindy
@user-ej6ox4lf4b
@user-ej6ox4lf4b Ай бұрын
Hope this mega church has lawyered-up…. Other victims WILL COME FORWARD
@juanresendiz56jr
@juanresendiz56jr Ай бұрын
What a good actor! This makes the so called GW church look even more pathetic! I would have demanded that morris himself apologize and address the people! The elder still referred to him as pastor morris. Really!! Could the real church please 🙏🏻 stand up!! Totally sick of leaders screwing everything up and leading people astray. Lord reveal the fake pastors and the way they manipulate and twist Your Holy Word!! Amen! 🙏🏻👏🏻😇
@achristian11
@achristian11 Ай бұрын
Praying for the victim 🙏🏼
@terrywalker2437
@terrywalker2437 Ай бұрын
I left Gateway over two years ago. I yearned for a church with sound bible teaching and I found it right across the highway from Gateway. I pray for justice for Cindy. I pray for true repentance and restoration for Robert Morris. Not restoration back to the pulpit, but restoration in his heart. I pray for the Morris family. I pray for the people who call Gateway their church, may the God of justice, grace, and mercy heal your hurting hearts and restore you to him. Keep your eyes on Jesus.
@sharoncrawford7192
@sharoncrawford7192 Ай бұрын
Yes, everyone should hope Morris truly has or will repent. But he should never be in ministry again. I feel the same about people like Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggert. Hopefully, they are now right with God. But both are doing ministry, and Jimmy Swaggert never stepped down. I never listen to them.
@laurenmay2098
@laurenmay2098 Ай бұрын
​@sharoncrawford7192 Jim baker is going strong selling the apocalyptic food. He is still doing what he knows best. It is hard not to try to make money inside churches. I hope my heart keeps right with the word of God. But I have no desire to step in any church.
@WilliamFoster-cd1xl
@WilliamFoster-cd1xl Ай бұрын
Kindness he's been totally destroyed it is unfathomable the child needs prayer healing I cover her with the blood of Jesus Christ it happened to me I still have sexual sin be cause of it pray for all of us we came into a devils system God bless you I don't know why I did this
@Ronpaulians
@Ronpaulians Ай бұрын
Predators' enablers always start with "It's the hardest thing for me". I don't believe this elder. As a survivor of a long chain of crimes and abuses in 2 evangelical churches, I am 100% sure that you had seen many predatory behaviours in that wolf and he always used scriptures to excuse them and that all his previous victims of his greed, verbal abuse, etc, were despised. This kind of predators do not work alone.
@BrendaRobinette-zx5ix
@BrendaRobinette-zx5ix Ай бұрын
You said it the way it should be said Thank you
@christybaggett6438
@christybaggett6438 Ай бұрын
Elders are complicit.
@Ronpaulians
@Ronpaulians Ай бұрын
Agree. Predators' enablers always start with "It's the hardest thing for me". I don't believe this elder. As a survivor of a long chain of crimes and abuses in 2 evangelical churches, I am 100% sure that you had seen many predatory behaviours in that wolf and he always used scriptures to excuse them and that all his previous victims of his greed, verbal abuse, etc, were despised. This kind of predators do not work alone.
@user-su1oq8bm3b
@user-su1oq8bm3b Ай бұрын
Totally agree. I don't understand how these people, the congregants, can ever trust the staff again, how they can stay?
@hotpinkjalapenos
@hotpinkjalapenos Ай бұрын
Q SONG after the fake tear crying check ..MONEY MONEY MONEY
@hotpinkjalapenos
@hotpinkjalapenos Ай бұрын
Don't accept their prayers dirty fingers built this church ... Of an innocent child turn the Bible w ur predator SA fingers .. nahh get lost
@Cwood79
@Cwood79 Ай бұрын
How do you know?
@jessevarela
@jessevarela Ай бұрын
Trying to save the business from going under. He "didn't" know because he didn't want to know.
@mrnice111
@mrnice111 7 күн бұрын
You got that right.
@hollyriley9848
@hollyriley9848 Ай бұрын
They will say anything to save their big beefy paychecks. Wake up people!!
@sowaniagermain1168
@sowaniagermain1168 Ай бұрын
Praying for healing
@vedosafie2831
@vedosafie2831 Ай бұрын
As sad as it looks. God used this man to bless many.Its time to support each other, and stop throwing stones, which one of us without sin.God is merciful. He must face the consequences. It's time we pray for all our leaders.Keep our eyes on Jesus, and keep PRAYING for our church leaders.
@1my2boys
@1my2boys Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@briancana4855
@briancana4855 Ай бұрын
Amen
@user-CBijou
@user-CBijou Ай бұрын
Yes!! Absolutely the truth!
@lizbethshepard6731
@lizbethshepard6731 Ай бұрын
That church should close their doors
@susanhamberg676
@susanhamberg676 Ай бұрын
Why isn’t he on stage asking g for Grace, mercy and showing his tears! The elders need to have him show his face, what a coward.
@ivanasimic2072
@ivanasimic2072 Ай бұрын
DAMAGE CONTROL
@Waggy_519
@Waggy_519 Ай бұрын
You are damned if you do you and you are damned if you don’t… What would you do or expect if you were in their shoes or if this was the church you attended?
@JudyChartrand-uv6oi
@JudyChartrand-uv6oi Ай бұрын
What about being a godly man if you’re a pastor. He committed a crime against a 12 year old child. Maybe you don’t know the full story, or maybe you don’t care. The Bible is very clear that a man who is immortal is not to be a teacher. Or a leader in the church. NOT TO MENTION this church is a harlot church. You need discernment my dear.
@dianeskipwithmarshall8866
@dianeskipwithmarshall8866 Ай бұрын
Of course. Everything to the light!
@user-su1oq8bm3b
@user-su1oq8bm3b Ай бұрын
Yep
@e.j.406
@e.j.406 Ай бұрын
I would have investigated him in 2005 when Cindy came forward. I would have fired him. Then I would have called the cops. 👮‍♂️
@tommihail2178
@tommihail2178 Ай бұрын
Why is it necessary to use an independent law firm considered Robert Morris has resigned or is there far more ti come out of Roberts child grooming days? If Cindy is pursuing legal action it just may open the floodgates for other victims to come forward too. With all these current sex scandals around the Globe, its the wives and children of these perpetrators who suffer very much..😢
@brenthandycts131
@brenthandycts131 Ай бұрын
Accountability and testimony to the outside world. If they handle it internally, the world will claim cover up.
@susangibbs676
@susangibbs676 Ай бұрын
Wives tolerate it for the money and status
@dahj5954
@dahj5954 Ай бұрын
Because she’s obviously after his pocketbook and fame….. little douche. Go to him personally and make it right. Pastor Robert morris over and over again has said he was morally in sin when he was younger….. he repented but she wants more than that…… been sexually abused too and I went to the individual directly….. grow up.
@patwilson7940
@patwilson7940 Ай бұрын
Robert Morris's wife knew this all these years... She even called the victim when the victim was only 17 and told her she forgives her for what she did to her husband 😳
@ebenoit72
@ebenoit72 Ай бұрын
@@patwilson7940when I heard about that, I was disgusted beyond belief
@HardRockMaster7577
@HardRockMaster7577 Ай бұрын
The 3rd party investigation should reveal who knew and when did thy know it, about the actual age of the young lady.
@PhilipBauer-pq3eb
@PhilipBauer-pq3eb 25 күн бұрын
This is just wrong for continuing persecution of Robert Morris! "Those who have not SIN, cast the 1st stone!
@brianboisguilbert6985
@brianboisguilbert6985 24 күн бұрын
And I'll bet you don't even know the context of that scripture, just something you whip out to try and gain the moral high ground. You display a shallow, simplistic knowledge of the New Testament.
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