Civilization VS Millennia - 5 BIG DIFFERENCES Between These 4X Strategy Games!

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Welcome back to Millennia, in conjunction with Civilization 6, Civ 5, Humankind, Old World and others, I'll be using my real played experience in Millennia Game (still very much a work in progress, early access aplha/beta build) to compare and contrast what Millennia does differently. This is the Civilization vs Millennia video that many of you asked for last time! I'll compare units, tech trees, ages, how and what civs look like, the graphics and style, and how cities and tile improvements simulate richer economies (&more!)
If you missed my previous videos on Millennia, you can find them here (they'll probably be helpful as more introductory, slightly slower paced videos unpacking Millennia's game mechanics and disecting the screenshots and trailer)
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Introduction:
0:00 - MILLENNIA VS CIVILIZATION!
0:25 - The Ages
3:00 - The Civilizations
5:20 - The Cities & Regions
7:01 - The Style
8:10 - The Units & Combat
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@Franktamas 9 ай бұрын

I already was thinking of Civilization Call to Power, when you mentioned the tile improvements and building system, but I am happy cause I was imagining Milennia's combat form the reviews like CtP, which has really engaging and fun.

@isidornimages 9 ай бұрын

It may sound silly, but the cartoony art style of Civ 6 is the main reason I've stuck with Civ V all these years. Glad to see Millennia is going for the more realistic style, even if the graphics admittedly seems to need some improvements. Also kind of glad to see Millennia not going for a leader avatar. As much as I love the Civ games, the immortal god type leader that you basically have in those games has always felt a bit strange to me.

@David-vs3cd 9 ай бұрын

I did to until I found two mods making the graphic and UI more like Civ5. The graphic one is made by one of the graphic designers of Civ 5. It's not like it will be totally like Civ 5 but for me it was enough to invest time into Civ 6.

@dragonnsv9710 9 ай бұрын

Same! I miss the old civ v graphics

@user-nj6lp2ku1g 4 ай бұрын

I was a little disappointed with the Civ 6 graphics but it grew on me. Love them. At least Ghandi stopped nuking me in Civ 6!

@millennialsecularandauthri3338 3 ай бұрын

I am not a fan of the cartoon style but millennia’s graphics look rough. I say this as someone who will pre purchase the delux edition.

@DWestheim 9 ай бұрын

There's more than one slice of Civ: Call to Power that's made its way into this game then. And I've waited for something to revisit that combat system for .... HOW OLD AM I, YOU SAY????

@user-nj6lp2ku1g 4 ай бұрын

Loved Call to Power and it's sequel.

@QuestingTruck 9 ай бұрын

Wow, Call to Power. That was probably my favorite civ game.

@Franktamas 9 ай бұрын

Yeah the improvement and combat system was amazing in that. My favourite is Alpha Centauri because of the global summit and unit customization elements.

@monocularfogey 8 ай бұрын

It wasn't a Civ game fyi pal. It dropped the Civ moniker for sequel due to lawsuit vs Activision. Still wonderful and one of my fav 4x.

@Smenkhaare 8 ай бұрын

Old school or Old skool for real. As a Boomer playing games I love the old references.

@markhosking1882 4 ай бұрын

My first thoughts on playing the demo was wow, Call to Power. Call to Power has long been one of my favourite Civ games and I'm pleased to see some of its inspirational ideas revisited. I'm also a fan of Paradox grand strategy, but prefer turn based, so another plus - deep complex turn based Civ. It's a win win. Hope it lives up to expectations.

@markhosking1882 4 ай бұрын

@@monocularfogey Wow that's some pedantry. Commonly known as Civ 2.5 or the "other Civ 3". Of course its not an official Civ game, but really?

@larryb5677 9 ай бұрын

Too bad Humankind didn't think of that age system. "Alright, time to pick my new civ in this, *The Age Of Plague.* Hmm, maybe I'll go agrarian"

@maj.kingkong3004 9 ай бұрын

Enjoyed your take on it. First game I’m looking forward to in a while.

@ademile_0973 9 ай бұрын

Im seeing and seems to look that in Millenia there is a clearly inspiration in the mechanics of Paradox Interactive Studios games and I think that will be refreshing and also for the narrative The example is that the player seems to be the spirit of the nation like in Eu4 and not a inmortal leader like in CIV or Humankind.

@Diogo_CF 9 ай бұрын

I didn't get that at all from the chapter The Civilizations. I interpret JumboPixel as saying that you design a blank state leader and then you add traits according to the national spirits you accumulate during gameplay. No family tree, no substituting your leader for another, no individual stats to boost or nerf certain abilities. It's kinda disappointing: I was expecting something akin to Crusader Kings or Old World.

@TheBreadPirate 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for breaking down the differences!

@ktcd1172 9 ай бұрын

Your limited description of the combat reminds me of the combat rounds in the DOS game "Conquest of The New World" by Interplay.

@zerellix 7 ай бұрын

Loved that game, understood nothing tough.

@jamesbernadette6216 9 ай бұрын

Question: if there's a turn timer for the game to transfer from one Age to another, does that mean during that "interim" period there will be flavoured events that pop up to help the player immerse themselves on how and why there is a major shift in the human history that defines the changing of the ages? I really hope it's not just "ok, this thing will happen in 30 turns, better be prepared for the game mechanics to change and *PLOP* now the things are different just because game said so".

@samueloverend3517 9 ай бұрын

I'm about to watch the video, but one key difference is that Civilization 6 is not the Blade of Miquella. Edit: I've watched the video & it looks interesting. Thanks for the info.

@faitas1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the videos about Millenia they are pretty interesting! I very much like the combat in Humankind (and Age of Wonders) and I feel disappointed other games are not pushing for a more "interesting" combat system. I'm more of a tactical combat type of player and just bashing units against each other feels boring to me.

@PrinceJvstin 9 ай бұрын

Oh course now I have more questions. Does every age (beyond the first) have an alternate you can potentially go to instead?

@dylanroemmele906 9 ай бұрын

Alright so basically you get mana points for each major specialization (Art, Warfare, Engineering etc…) That is a lot of mana points… my EU4 ptsd is kicking in pretty hard… tech tree also looks barren, so my Humankind ptsd is kicking in also… I hope its good enough for me to put down Civ 4 :/

@princeimrahil6557 9 ай бұрын

Civ IV was the best, especially with mods

@N1mr 9 ай бұрын

Civ 6 ai had nothing on civ 5. Replay and custom large maps are the key to these games. Civ6 was just too easy and late game units need to improve.

@Trowarr 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, the ai is the definite deal breaker for me. Civ 6 was such a disappointment in that regard. I went back to Civ 5 and occasionally even play some Civ 4.

@Gyratus 8 ай бұрын

The problem with civ games is that the player leading will more often than not broaden the leading edge. And here with the leading player defining the next age for every one ot can quickly become frustrating. I hope they will prepare means to catch back to others or at least cut your pace through ages.

@POKENAR 9 ай бұрын

Really liking the sound of the game

@user-nj6lp2ku1g 4 ай бұрын

Looks interesting. I did like Call to Power (1 and 2) and Civilization. Love Civilization 6. Got 1700 hours played. I have zero life :) I only wish colonies was implemented. Loved colony creation I think it started in Civ 3 then after time, the colonies asked to go independent. Call to Power, I liked the introduction of bio weapons and terrorism. Looking for these and added diplomacy. In Call to Power I loved how you can not allow nuclear weapons, forbid a civilization to research nuclear weapons, and limit pollution in diplomacy. I'm aging myself but does anyone remember, Destiny? It was supposed to be a next gen type of Civilization many years ago. It was cancelled. Just an FYI, Im not a boomer. 70s kid here :) Looking forward to this game and Ara.

@freaky1382 8 ай бұрын

am I understanding this correctly that there is no tech tree? You select individual techs out of a choice of 5 before changing age?

@Plankton_GS44 7 ай бұрын

The Paradox artstyle is called "pushing the Clausewitz engine past its limits that it reached 7 years ago". In this regard, of milking their geriatric inhouse engine, they are second only to Bethesda.

@dave230k33k 9 ай бұрын

how advanced can the technology in millennia get? and how powerful are the WMDs are they able to alter the map? also erailer you said their was no space travel, is their anything close or is their just buildings that give you buffs and say "moon base" like humankind or just no space?

@JumboPixel 9 ай бұрын

There is actually a really interesting, four part lunar mission. It integrates extra options for each mission (broadcast it to your people if you have radio, or try and take shots of the dark side of the moon if you’re explorers). You don’t *actually* travel (the game doesn’t turn into Stellaris or anything), but the mission events are interesting. They also always carry a risk of failure - a nice change over just shipping space ship parts to a capital city. And yes - quite a few buildings I’ve seen relate to it. Space research centres, rocket facilities, that kind of thing. Edit: techs go into the future - space orbital lasers capable of wiping out cities are a thing.

@Jack_Spicer 5 ай бұрын

And what about ARA: History Untold? What do you think about it?

@willypg2144 9 ай бұрын

I just want to know if ideologies like communism will get into the game, also, if there's a way to custom laws or some kind of stellaris civ reforms

@lawrencepick8286 6 ай бұрын

In your opinion, what are the chances of a Civ 7 trailer at the Game Awards this week?

@tacobowler 9 ай бұрын

I’m a big fan of things like ck3 and eu4; but not a fan of civilization or age of mythology (not bad, but could never figure them out). Would I enjoy a game like this?

@omygandhi157 9 ай бұрын

Hoping they can improve the look of the game to look up to a game made in the year 2023, not 1993. Gameplay concepts sound Great.

@Brellowcrop 9 ай бұрын

That sounds awesome, mate. But i really dont like the battle system they've got

@gustavvigolo4480 8 ай бұрын

so civ, ara, humankind and this wow thats a lot

@TheNoldaz 9 ай бұрын

I hope its less a speedrun game style than civ 6

@WysteriaGuitar 3 ай бұрын

Which one is the most historically realistic? e.g., real units

@petersteenkamp 9 ай бұрын

Once you've played Caveman2cosmos, every other version of civ feels shallow.

@alphadraconis9898 9 ай бұрын

Just looking at these side by side reinforces just how Civ V still wins hands down graphically and gameplay wise over Civ VI for me.

@EstrellaViajeViajero 9 ай бұрын

I wonder how the age system would work with continents. Let's say the Age of Blood is picked, but the player is on another continent with now way to get to yours. So your Age of Blood might be spent building monuments. I think it would be better for each player to get to pick the age that fits their situation rather than set it for the map as a whole and force everyone into a specific playstyle for that age.

@Neseku 9 ай бұрын

so i dont have to put my entire city on pause just to build a unit??

@danted1329 9 ай бұрын

Get ready for mountain of DLCs.

@ChrissieBear 9 ай бұрын

My brother in Christ, rheres an official screenshot of the combat system on Steam. 😅

@yonathor 9 ай бұрын

How many games have been hyped before and didn't deliver. I can mention a whole list by now. I'll wait for gameplay videos and we'll see how soon it will die out.

@omygandhi157 9 ай бұрын

Almost all the AAA developers' games have impressive graphics. It has proven to improve sales, attract an audience to try the product. Underwhelming graphics on a game the audience often does not even try the product. Gameplay/A.I. are the most important, but graphics go a long way to immersion/opinions on how good a game is.

@Kropolis 9 ай бұрын

Yeah my buddy says he has a hard time playing Civ 5 after 6 because he thinks the game is ugly despite liking the systems more.

@Pushing_Pixels 8 ай бұрын

On the flipside, not everybody has a modern or high-end GPU. Devs want their game to be available to as large an audience as possible, so making it so graphically beautiful you need the latest tech to run it shrinks that audience.

@SomeOne-hw6jw 9 ай бұрын

looks great for a 2003 game!

@xtomvideo 9 ай бұрын

I prefer the visuals in Civ5 and Old World over the other games in the video. The age selection doesn't seem to be offering enough substantially different or better over Civ from what I see so far.

@bluebird3131 3 ай бұрын

Humankind has the same stars system for changing Era with some sort of quests, and I really didn't like it at all. Not for me.

@JumboPixel 3 ай бұрын

They’re not really the same. Millennia ages always require technology to progress, and are set by one player for the entire world. Humankind has eras based on your personal yields, leading to individual era change. These eras can never be reached through technological progress alone.

@BoydofZINJ 9 ай бұрын

So.... build a non technical society and then research RogueAI and laugh as SKYNET kills your AI foes for you?😮

@Kropolis 9 ай бұрын

My ideal 4x would use Civ 5 (& DLC) as a base, Civ 6 tile-based wonders & canals/bridges + multiple leaders for each civ, humankind terrain and graphics, and just added/improved techs, civs, and wonders Maybe my opinion will change over time but I don't care much for overcomplexity and lots of micro

@dyingimmortal 5 ай бұрын

Hmm interesting... so we have a game which no one has played, and no one has even seen a Paradox's gameplay and yet we are banking on trailer to make this game definitively different to Civ and Humankind... not saying it won't be, but there is no evidence to suggest it is going to be positively remarkable or negatively forgettable...

@ahmetoler1652 8 ай бұрын

not so big differents and i dont see still RTS war

@Dracleos 9 ай бұрын

Old World is the best atm

@cloverdog85 9 ай бұрын

Looks kinda like humankind

@CCRRJJ 8 ай бұрын

like the concept but the game's aesthetic is really nothing to be excited about. It looks like a bland, uninspired, derivative version of other dated/old 4x games. The art style looks generic and meh. And the colors are all shades of the most boring greens, beiges, and browns. You're right. It badly needs a glow up.

@oldrabbit8290 9 ай бұрын

tbh, it's not looking that good, especially when compared with another new 4x game Age of Wonder 4. The "local production chain" is great, but all other feature is either meh or severely outdated. And that's not to mention the truly groundbreaking 4x Paradox game of Stellaris..

@dylanroemmele906 9 ай бұрын

Yeah the reliance on arbitrary mana points/xp is worrying and the actual tech tree, or… line I guess, is barren. I think we’re gonna get another Humidkind scenario where the pacing will just be off and just make the game unfun.

@Antonio-lt1sp 9 ай бұрын

I don't like the aesthetics of the city boarders.

@SovereignRO 9 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but there can be no excuse for the graphics. You can argue as much as you want that its an RTS and if the the gameplay that is important and I agree, but its still no excuse. The game simply looks extremely dated and that is not acceptable unless its a 15-20$ game maybe not evern then. Hopefully they get a very notable upgrade by release.

@misterbeach8826 9 ай бұрын

millennia is not worth mentioning so far, imo. way too close to civ. ara history untold feels more fresh, at least.

@claytonstokes8655 2 ай бұрын

Would you compare it to Civ 5 or Civ 6? I ask because Civ 6 sucked.

@wolfmasters1 2 ай бұрын

@@claytonstokes8655says you. I love civ 6

@wolfmasters1 2 ай бұрын

@@claytonstokes8655what exactly sucks about it? It plays fine, looks fine, I don't understand what could be better about civ 5

@claytonstokes8655 2 ай бұрын

@@wolfmasters1 as a retired graphic artist I like the graphics of 5 much better than 6. I have been playing Civ since it first came out - all those many many years ago. I enjoyed how each new game looked and played better, but 6 did not. It look terrible, and it plays so damn slow, like loading floppy disc slow, cold molasses slow. Play a turn and go make a sandwich and come back after eating it AND it might be ready for its next turn. Now, having said that, if you enjoy play it. I am looking forward to 7.

@claytonstokes8655 2 ай бұрын

@@wolfmasters1 I’m glad you do, happy for you, it’s just how I feel about it. No worries.

@maranr 9 ай бұрын

combat looks uninspiring. That was always the most fun part of the Civ games for me. probably pass on this.

@devindbass6711 9 ай бұрын

Paradox style of combat, no thanks. I appreciate the Humankind combat much better.

@backstabber3537 9 ай бұрын

Milennia looks like a mobile game made in 2010 so bad....competing with civ6 what a joke

@youtubeisafascistdictators4829 9 ай бұрын

Again, the graphics of Millenia look like Civ4. Outdated and very uninspiring. So far doesnt look good or particularly interesting. Looks like an average 4x game with its own mechanics or whatever, but nothing special. Maybe when a proper gameplay will be available more would be clear, but for now look like a pass as in not interested.

@Milan74 9 ай бұрын

i don't call these games, but hexagon garbage.. Total War Empire is the way to go.

@ollllj 3 ай бұрын

Stop insulting any game by comparing it with civilization6. no game deserves this insult. Civ5+6 are VERY poorly balanced, to a point where civ6 is merely a 1x "game" and not even 4x, because groups of over 5 offensive/hunting archers are way too strong, and easily stronger than groups of the same amount of defensive/surrounded archers. - 1 unit per tile limit lasts too long, and large groups of archers take advantage of this. - terrain is too flat, making defenses against archers way too weak. - anti archer things need too much research and are not as efficient, because tech tree is silly and because of all of the above. so this is how you play cviv6 if you want to win efficiently, on ANY difficulty, even as complete novice: - never build any settler (archers are better) - never build any worker (archers are better) - never build any city improvement, not even the military district (archers are better) - constantly have as many archers as you can, the more the better. - only have as many melee units as you need for capturing cities, emptied by archers. - only build a many transport ships as you REALLY need, which is only relevant after you rushed and captured most of your continent, long before archers get weak or obsolete, and you likely won the game by then already, so its not that it matters much what you do from there. civ6 is all about archers. at least civ6 is 80% about archers and 20% about having many small underdeveloped cities /(by any means needed, ideally by archer rushing, but civ5 cities have slightly better FREE defense than civ6 cities)

@redlucius544 2 ай бұрын

Didn’t order a yappacino