Jumper T18 vs. Radiomaster TX16S | one fatal flaw?

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Joshua Bardwell

Joshua Bardwell

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Jumper T18 vs. RadioMaster TX16S. That's the big question everybody is asking. And I think for most people, there are a few reasons to stay away from the Jumper T18 and get the RadioMaster instead.
Here are the firmware files I flashed to my radio. You should look and see if Jumper has released newer public files before you use these.
1drv.ms/u/s!Al4b3QGPtgasn7NVw...
I used the FrSky R9 Mini receiver (ACCST version not OTA ACCESS version) with Flex firmware 190201 flashed to it. The FCC or LBT firmware did not work with the 5-in-1 chipset. Download this firmware at: www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/u...
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-- TABLE OF CONTENTS --
0:00 - Intro
2:45 - Dimensions and form factor
3:03 - Why two power buttons???
3:27 - Light up buttons and how to turn them off.
4:07 - T18 has tiltable gimbals. TX16 does not.
4:15 - Scroll wheel. Radiomaster is better.
5:13 - Is the T18 made in same factory as TX16S? No.
6:36 - Battery bay. T18 is smaller.
8:00 - How to use the 900 MHz module.
8:51 - Range Test.
14:33 - Let's open it up and see if it has ribbon cables!
16:45 - T18 doesn't have touch screen (yet). Radiomaster does.
17:23 - ALPS RDC90 gimbals vs. Hall Effect.
19:27 - Was the T18 rushed out? Missing features.
20:41 - Conclusion and final recommendation.

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@damonbfpv
@damonbfpv 4 жыл бұрын
joshua bardwell ..the linus tech tips of fpv..that drop at the start even made me hold my breath lmao
@abnormallynormal8823
@abnormallynormal8823 4 жыл бұрын
Linus Drop Tips FTFY
@echaitea
@echaitea 4 жыл бұрын
The resemblance is striking.
@runforestrunfpv4354
@runforestrunfpv4354 4 жыл бұрын
In the spirit of Linustechtips. I wanna see 1 radio and 7 binded kwads in motion.
@gautamkrishna7421
@gautamkrishna7421 4 жыл бұрын
Runforestrun FPV rotor riot did that with two I think
@digiblurDIY
@digiblurDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure I would insult Joshua like that.
@johndyson8647
@johndyson8647 4 жыл бұрын
Just confirmed my thoughts as iv gone for the radiomaster tx16s with the crossfire module and ordered it a few days ago. Nice one Joshua great informative videos 👍🏻
@traviscook5144
@traviscook5144 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all your hard work on these long videos
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 4 жыл бұрын
Great review / test. I've pre-ordered the Radiomaster, excited to get it.
@NormanLedoyen
@NormanLedoyen 4 жыл бұрын
Great info Joshua. Always nice to see what you think about the systems and radios.
@cpfpv6410
@cpfpv6410 4 жыл бұрын
decided to pause after the intro and thank you so much for this video. I want one of these radios but haven't purchased a T16 or the like yet. So this video is for me! Thank you
@Andrew_O
@Andrew_O 4 жыл бұрын
I placed my pre-order for the TX16S about 2 weeks ago from Banggood and was hoping the T18 reviews would drop in time for me to have a chance to reconsider before it shipped. Yours covered all the ground I was hoping for fantastically and certianly puts a nail in the coffin for the T18. Cheers!
@phillipgabriel8671
@phillipgabriel8671 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you JB I will be purchasing a radio king after watching this and your tx16s review . You have been a tremendous aid in getting me interested in this amazing hobby and the confidence to go into it after learning. Thank you!
@billkendall7464
@billkendall7464 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison! You literally touched on every one of my concerns. You also went in depth on the R9M vs 5in1 power differences. Again, that was the one issue I haven't seen others mention. So, in a nutshell, you nailed it!
@rockcityfpv9117
@rockcityfpv9117 4 жыл бұрын
That is what I was waiting for also ... at 300mhz there is no point getting this ... I assumed wrong and thought it would also support 1ghz and not having telemetry is a big problem for me.
@dr0n3droid
@dr0n3droid 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Finally backlit switch labels. It'll really help out when I'm grinding Global Variables in the dark.
@KanHazKat
@KanHazKat 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought the RadioMaster + CrossFire bundle and can't wait to get it. I've wanted to make the jump to CrossFire for a while and feel this radio will last me a long time. Comes in at the same price as the highest T18 so it was an easy dicision for me.
@Dblackarialallstars
@Dblackarialallstars 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua as usual you never fail to educate me in a entertaining way! love the Baby plug at the end! lol Today i learned somthing.
@user-tq4di3kh7c
@user-tq4di3kh7c 4 жыл бұрын
A great and timely review I’m waiting for! Just ordered a tx16s😁
@Tbag0069
@Tbag0069 4 жыл бұрын
I'm completely new to the hobby and was looking around for my first radio. I have been researching everything I can about the hobby. I've read/ watched so many reviews on radios that I feel like I should be an expert by now. I ordered the radiomaster 2 days ago and came across this video just today. I was excited to see that the conclusions I had come to were validated. Phew! Great job on the comparisons of these radios. I'm not gonna pretend I understood everything you said (yup noob), but it was incredibly helpful. Buy the way any recommendations on a micro BNF. Sadly I'm still on Sim.
@edcbabc
@edcbabc 4 жыл бұрын
Unless I misunderstood, you seemed to imply that the RDC encoders were pots. Encoders are not pots, they typically put out a quadrature pair of squarewave signals (ie two signals 90 degrees out of phase) from which - ignoring how it is done - you can detect movement and direction. Quadrature encoders are used in lots of equipment. If the resolution is good enough, they should be more consistent than an inherently analogue hall effect system. However quadrature signals do not give absolute position on their own, they just tell you how far you have moved and in which direction. Printers that used to use quadrature carriage position sensors used to drive the carriage to an end stop at startup to get absolute position ("ah, that's where I am") and then use the encoder for relative movement after that. You can also get some types of digital sensor that put out absolute position. The real question is - are they contactless? Some encoders are optical and contactless, some have mechanical contacting wipers. If contacting, they they would have wear out / dirt and poor contact issues like pots. Optical, being contactless, should not have wear out issues, but of course sufficient dirt / dust build up can block the optical sensor transmission.
@friendlyfireentertainment
@friendlyfireentertainment 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! It would be interesting to see a range test comparing the TBS Crossfire micro module that can be bundled with the tx16s vs the internal r9m module in the t18 because the price of the tx16s with crossfire micro is the same as the t18 pro
@rustyalford6286
@rustyalford6286 3 жыл бұрын
I flew RC in the early 2000s and used JR 10X radios for airplanes and for helies. They cost $995! The price had dropped and the capabilities vastly improved! Good to be alive. lol
@Evilroco
@Evilroco 3 жыл бұрын
Great radios I keep one for my legacy fixed wings and a couple of Futaba T9ch for my Helis ,I'd say the quality of build is better on those older high end TX's much better in the hand than any of my newer kit, Radiomaster included but you did have to have better knowledge to make best use of them. Great times to be alive and enjoying the hobby!
@Deanjacob7
@Deanjacob7 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea who you were yesterday but holly shit are you an incredible teacher/speaker. I strive to be as good as you at making videos one day
@OverdriveTech
@OverdriveTech 4 жыл бұрын
I have the TX16S and it's great. Highly recommend it.
@BBFPV
@BBFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Did you test 2.3.9, on telemetry i have only a few sensors. Curr and amp is gone, voltage and angle are corrupt. GPS FM RSSI works.
@sjorsnabben3832
@sjorsnabben3832 4 жыл бұрын
I have it to it works amazing and is easy to use
@asennad
@asennad 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit pissed how Joshua ( and to be fair others ) praised the T16 for the last few months and now it's old news. Gotta buy the latest and greatest. I've just started using mine as my flying field just opened up after covid. I love it. Did the upgrades. Fixed the issue with the ribbon cable. I'm keeping mine.
@SCFPV
@SCFPV 4 жыл бұрын
@@asennad It happens with a lot of reviewers really, but Joshua is usually more upfront and straightforward with it. I don't think he ever said the T-16 was a bad radio, just the TX-16S is a better radio at a lower price point. He's definitely right about the Jumper T-16 having terrible 2.4g range. I use my Jumper T-16 pro primarily as my daily flyer, but have recently been thinking about switching back to my FrSky QX-7S because of the constant low, and critical RF signal warnings and failsafes I've been experiencing with my Jumper T-16pro lately. In the end, if you're happy with what you have, don't sweat it, and Happy Flying, but I think what Joshua is really saying, is that if someone's in the market for a radio right now, the RasdioMaster TX-16 would be the better value for what you get. Keep in mind, that the TX-16S wasn't around when he praised the Jumper T-16 or Pro, so of course opinions change when newer a better things become available.
@Fili_42
@Fili_42 4 жыл бұрын
I pre-ordered the Radiomaster TX16S within the first 20 pre-orders, got the first batch of it, and I am still very happy with it, did not noticed any problems... Except for the speaker, which is not as loud as expected....
@MasterApeFPV
@MasterApeFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Some people go to the gym for some exercise; Joshua Bardwell does radio testing. Thank you by the way! Just received my TH2 yesterday, and I am already hooked to FPV flying, thanks to all your super interesting videos (and yes, Ive watched like what feels like all your videos- even before ordering my whoop!)!
@Fisiek_Inferator
@Fisiek_Inferator 4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for that comparsion, and here it comes :D You definitely dissolved my doubts about tx16s. Maybe t18 is in fact released to soon, and Jumper's way of potential future upgrades.. Well , i'm not buying it at all. The radiomaster is more versatile and more "polished" despite the lack of r9 protocol , in my opinion . And that's what i'm gonna buy. Thanx JB
@Chris-xo2rq
@Chris-xo2rq 4 жыл бұрын
...and R9 is not even a feature, it's a liability, crossfire is better in every way
@rossturner9340
@rossturner9340 4 жыл бұрын
Loving the last scenes in the videos!
@SimonCrowther1
@SimonCrowther1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. Much appreciated.
@burdenfpv8628
@burdenfpv8628 4 жыл бұрын
I was trying to decide between the 2 and was waiting for this review... but then the DJI sale happened, sooooo... basically now I'm waiting 2 months for that to arrive from China! 😆 good review though Joshua! I may end up getting tx16s at some point anyway, if i really hate the DJI radio or just fancy running Crossfire!
@yatzeegamingop
@yatzeegamingop 3 жыл бұрын
"500 is closer to 300 than 100" Bro...
@jbwebst
@jbwebst 3 жыл бұрын
ROTFLMAO!
@aidanfarley9566
@aidanfarley9566 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think he meant like in terms of higher output power but I was scratching my head at that for a couple seconds.
@arwo1143
@arwo1143 3 жыл бұрын
I think he misspoke here.... I think that thing goes from 300mw with internal power to 1w
@DKNguyen3.1415
@DKNguyen3.1415 3 ай бұрын
In his defense, 500 is only 160% away from 300, while 300 is 300% away from 100!
@freefallnfoamy6764
@freefallnfoamy6764 4 жыл бұрын
loved your range test!! I've seen so many range tests were people fly and then crash drones as they run out of juice trying to get home. keep the receiver fixed.... then walk/drive away. = smart.
@abghostrider7960
@abghostrider7960 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Jumper T16 Pro and works great. I cant get a new radio every couple of months like you Joshua. I had a Spektrum Dx6 for many years but wanted something that did all protocols and along came Jumper had an 8sg, too small upgraded to T16 pro, changed to carbon face plate, awesome radio does all my planes and quads, added TBS Crossfire even better, Gimballs are very precise as well.
@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398
@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398 4 жыл бұрын
Lol best opening ever! Thank you for this comparison video it really helped me decide which radio to buy to replace my Taranis in the future (radiomaster!). Although I like the T18 and it's Night Rider lights.
@yodabuttscrumdiddly400
@yodabuttscrumdiddly400 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reviews. As soon as I saw the TX18 had only an internal 2.4ghz antenna, and to a lesser extent no touchscreen or internal charging...I pre-ordered a TX16S! (From affiliate link). I’m excited to move up from a Taranis QX7S. Thanks!
@johnsmith-oh2xo
@johnsmith-oh2xo 2 жыл бұрын
Idk why you guy's keep saying the t18 has no touch screen my t18 pro has one and it work's if you flash it to EdgeTX i use it everyday way better than OpenTX.....
@johncarold
@johncarold 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh Great video and review of the Jumper T18 and Radiomaster TX16 features and if I was starting out these radios are the best way to get into the Hobby. Thanks again for the video and review.
@ASmallPoop
@ASmallPoop 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for the info, this made me decide on the radiomaster since the jumper t18 has worse range.
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 4 жыл бұрын
I was leaning towards the Radiomaster T16S already but wasn't 100% sure. You covered the Pro's and Con's very well, settled it completely and I have no doubts now.. Not sure if it will outlast my faultless Taranis but the T16S +Crossfire is intended to take over main duties from my X9D+.. which I will keep as a great backup Tx. Thanks Joshua
@noceris9303
@noceris9303 4 жыл бұрын
thanks JB I have now ordered the t16s with crossfire, sounds like its better than t18 for sure, keep making informative videos, thanks
@HomeDronen
@HomeDronen 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, cool little guy, he's gonna teach you something... lol.. Just ordered Ribbon cables for my Jumper T16 Pro V2 from Heli-Nation. Cheers to you and your family!
@scooterfpv8864
@scooterfpv8864 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Been keeping my eye on that RadioMaster for some time before the general populous became mostly aware of this option. The name has a bit of old timey nostalgia for me on my favorite weekend brick and mortar place that is hard to find anymore for my electronic parts, supplies, and learning. They deliver on that front besides all the features I'm keen too. Keeping my ear to the ground about the other entities thwarting a belligerent swagger pretty much seals the deal for me and a reputable company I like has embraced this radio as well with their long rage options. It's only natural after the homework I've done for the future upgrades I've planned.
@gee4zfpv
@gee4zfpv 4 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a Tango 2- and love it.
@Desmarestia.
@Desmarestia. 4 жыл бұрын
How did you not edit in a "Oh we got a jumper!" line?
@Infinite_Ouroboros
@Infinite_Ouroboros 4 жыл бұрын
Well. Just cancelled my order for T18 pro and put in the order for TX16S with TBS module. Literally a day before they start shipping. Thanks Bardwell!
@Infinite_Ouroboros
@Infinite_Ouroboros 3 жыл бұрын
4 months later... Absolutely no regrets getting this over the jumper. Radiomaster just released a CNC upgrade kit and I just ordered the red kit. Can't wait to make this amazing radio that much better.
@smooth_ops2942
@smooth_ops2942 4 жыл бұрын
PRO TIP: If you are wanting a buttery smooth throttle, slide a piece of silicone fuel tubing over the metal tension bar slider on the throttle gimbal. Once you have done this get some oil (Micro Mist oil is what I use but anything will work really) and apply it to the side of the tubing that's contacting the gimbal itself then move up and down until oil is spread throughout the entire throttle range to which you will need to adjust the screws top/bottom that attach the slider bar to the radio itself. This MOD is so buttery smooth it can make a shitty gimbal feel better than a futaba gimbal. I use a DX9 and it made a huge difference because mine would stick with minimal throttle movement before 👍🏻
@rudypoirier7793
@rudypoirier7793 2 жыл бұрын
Bought the Radiomaster TX16S. Got too frustrated with my Taranis qx7 . And I’m going with crossfire. I know where You live now too. Lol Always wondered where You were. Thanks again for all the knowledge You share. Rudy in Moncton NB, Cnd.👋🚀
@fpvdron8684
@fpvdron8684 4 жыл бұрын
I reserved the Radiomaster TX16S with hall sensors and when I saw the Jumper T18 I was not sure if I made a good choice but after seeing this video I am clear, I will stay with the Radiomaster. Thank you. 👍👍👍👍
@STUDIO89CH
@STUDIO89CH 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I have to say I love your reviews with all the infos and even a little joke in the intro! ;-) Keep it up and thanks for all the advise!
@aninconspicuousman2288
@aninconspicuousman2288 4 жыл бұрын
JB is one of (if not the) best youtuber(s) out there. You can tell He works hard to bring us the most educated, well rounded opinions and product facts. Thanks for what you do, Joshua.
@2dogrc
@2dogrc 4 жыл бұрын
Love the baby section at the end! Can you swap the gimbals from the Tx18 to the Tx16? Also what is the gimbal throw? I know the Tx16 has shorter throw then the Tx16s.
@VLena_art
@VLena_art 4 жыл бұрын
I have looked forward to this video.
@proprotornut5389
@proprotornut5389 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks
@MrNams
@MrNams 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Joshua, Does Pixhawk support motor Fail-safe? If yes, which version to use? If no, which is good Flight Controller? I knew Naza-M2 support motor Fail-safe(correct me if I am wrong), but its close code, so I am avoiding it as long I have alternate FC.
@LilwickedFpv
@LilwickedFpv 4 жыл бұрын
Great blog bro 👍🏽
@losien1
@losien1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review I’d also mention about: - foldable handle on t18 (quite nice) - nice box/case that tx16s comes in (if it had a handle and a little lock it would be super cool) - an additional “back” button on tx16s for me it’s a pretty big thing. Lack of going “back” on t16,t18 was a big pain for me when navigating through the menu. Here on radiomaster it’s been resolved but for some reason no one talks about it- so is it only me? If there is a page up button there should be a page down and they’ve done it finally. That row of buttons should be labeled more clearly (letters painted) as they are pretty invisible and you have to go by a memory.
@SparkyInCali
@SparkyInCali 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe nobody has mentioned that because holding the page button on all the other opentx radios does page back.
@peregrineflow7354
@peregrineflow7354 4 жыл бұрын
Reasonable value either way. Jumper support has been great, firmware updates work, and my set of new T16 ribbon cables came in yesterday from defianceRC. Only paid to ship. I would like to see a flight test that concentrated on the gimbals to compare curves and feel. The latest Jumper T12 is also worthy.
@SomeTechGuy666
@SomeTechGuy666 4 жыл бұрын
I applaud you speaking out and warning people about FrSky making firmware harder to get.
@GBoniFPV
@GBoniFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what I talking about, i went to frsky website and all the Accs firmware were still available.
@Matt-fl2vr
@Matt-fl2vr 4 жыл бұрын
The trucks going down the road reminded me of Pet Semetery 😂
@kudalkarshadab
@kudalkarshadab 4 жыл бұрын
Lol.so true
@jpslayermayor9293
@jpslayermayor9293 4 жыл бұрын
I really like how your are including drop testing in your gamut of stress conditions for radios. Maybe a shootout for highest drop survivability and functionality ;-). ?
@dontully7015
@dontully7015 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for your videos man. I think it’s time for me to try this chit.
@staviation9238
@staviation9238 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a T18 and I am able to get it to connect to the computer in usb mode. however companion will not see it. the version on the Tx is 2.4.8 and the companion version is 2.4.9. would the version difference still cause me not to be able to connect? I don't believe there is a opentx 2.4.9 for the t18 yet.
@the80s365
@the80s365 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Hard to find good reviews like this. Kudos. Have been throwing up between Paladin PL18 and the Radiomaster TX16 - The Paladin looks amazing, but hard to justify the cost difference. Curious to know if you have an opinion on the two compared to each other. On paper, it seems the Radiomaster still has it (bang for buck) due to OpenTX, multi-module and the huge price difference.
@Asu01
@Asu01 4 жыл бұрын
The internal charging capability is reserved for Jumper T18S Pro SE V2. Jumper is releasing unfinished products way too frequently. Currently putting my bet on Radiomaster.
@relo999
@relo999 3 жыл бұрын
8:40 that explains why my first drone, which I flew next to a field with a cell tower, went haywire the moment I flew a few meters away from me. Back than I though that was some issue with the build.
@charleswhite7134
@charleswhite7134 4 жыл бұрын
Nice flick of the wrist, there Joshua! ;-) I DID learn something..
@forrera168
@forrera168 3 жыл бұрын
0:04 stands up for it's name, jumper.
@janickithomas
@janickithomas 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joshua. I'll buy the radiomaster.
@guuskoelman8254
@guuskoelman8254 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua, Thank you for your video support. You tested the range of both transmitters. Some say that LBT EU has a much smaller range than the FCC mode. I have a radiomaster TX 16S with several X8R FrSky receivers. Has this LBT EU or FCC mode any influence on the range?
@dondupuis5524
@dondupuis5524 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing you have the replacement 😀
@tvlg4185
@tvlg4185 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video and test ! ( I m working as tester too ), please help me with a question, I have to put my old Frsky Taranis X9D international version to pension , so , I have to purchase a new one TX, so, I m flying a lot of my models with the Rx Frsky DR8-II PLus (international version) , DO you think I could buy this RadioMaster TX16S and bind all these my old DR8-II PLus receivers ? and later just move forward (copy) my existing models configuration from the old Taranis DX9 to the RadioMaster ?
@Sackenstein
@Sackenstein 4 жыл бұрын
I have two Jumper T16's and have issues with both of them. I'm going to wait before I purchase another Jumper. I bet after this video Jumper will make some changes. Thanks Josh
@iamptm
@iamptm 4 жыл бұрын
:(... Get a refund and go tx16s
@Sackenstein
@Sackenstein 4 жыл бұрын
@@iamptm thanks, I will definitely consider it.
@pwncity
@pwncity 4 жыл бұрын
Love how you exacerbate the battery rattle in the beginning LOL
@DeanChapmanFPV
@DeanChapmanFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Had to watch you drop the radio again 😂
@juggalizzle75
@juggalizzle75 4 жыл бұрын
I loved frsky when I first got into the hobby. I've since learned of their business practices and despise them. I've converted everything to crossfire. I still run my taranis until I get my hands on a tango2. I personally wouldn't run R9 if it was $20 cheaper and they gave me a handful of receivers.
@skyraidfpv6753
@skyraidfpv6753 4 жыл бұрын
Sure am glad I got my Radiomaster TX16S!
@SomeTechGuy666
@SomeTechGuy666 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. At 23:30 you called the Radiomaster the "Jumper TX16S".
@tylerelliottFPV
@tylerelliottFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Going to get a little technical here, bear with me... That is a flex cable not a ribbon cable. ALL screens like that will have one. Flex cables have more closely to a pcb trace in them than a ribbon cable which usually comes with stranded wires. Problems with ribbon cables, I've found in my computer building experience, are bad assembly practices. Really need to push that connector down on that ribbon cable to ensure you cut all the way through the cable sleeve. Flex cables generally have a zif connector vs a ribbon cables headers. Zif connectors come with their own connection problems too though.
@aerialcombat
@aerialcombat 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I'll try that since I've received cables to replace the original ribbons but the keystuck still persists
@ZeroFPV
@ZeroFPV 4 жыл бұрын
There is ACCST Firmware for the Access R9M module. You can get a bundle with module, super 8 antenna ($10) and an R9 MM ($24) for $52. So the module isn't much more then the $10 and you are getting 1W. You forgot to mention the SD card slot of the T18.
@olafschermann1592
@olafschermann1592 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any information about the battery runtime of T16 / T18 / TX16s ? FrSky X9d runs kinda 2 Weeks Horus X10 kinda 4 hours. What about the T16/18/TX16? More X9D like or more Horus like?
@WayneEarls
@WayneEarls 3 жыл бұрын
I'm about to buy another radio, do you still like the TX16S? Amazon has a bundle that comes with crossfire..
@AndrzejKuczwara
@AndrzejKuczwara 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua, thank you very much for a true and fair report. I ordered a TX16S. I was afraid I would regret not waiting for the T18, but I am happy. 1. I use 2.4GHz. I choose a better range. 2. 900MHz WITHOUT TELEMETERY? It's a misunderstanding.
@veit5256
@veit5256 4 жыл бұрын
What were we doing without you JB? I learned so much about betaflight and stuff from your videos...
@nullx8
@nullx8 2 жыл бұрын
that's like the nicest "don't buy Jumper" review I have seen haha, objective: Yes, neutral: Yes ... but the bottom line is pretty clear. literally, after 1:52 that was a done deal, hearing the battery flapping around inside the case, the cable problems, and anything following after is just a really big Red-flag for the whole brand. it's more like an origin story on why Radiomaster exists ;) great job.
@Storrsy
@Storrsy 4 жыл бұрын
Related but off-topic question. My old FlySky i6 has 2 antennas (antennae?) which I assume has some level of diversity. It seems that Jumper and Radiomaster only have a single antenna. How much effect , if any, does this actually have on performance?
@jjj25313
@jjj25313 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not too clear on the Frsky/OpenTX issue. Would you say that as long as you got a reciever bound and working, it would work until it dies?
@DiogoFilipeR
@DiogoFilipeR 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think is possible to change the plastic wheel on the t18 with a metal one from the radiomaster? It should be a cheap part and easy change. And another change would be to disable the 5in1 and put a 2.4ghz antenna.. But that maybe be too much complicated than that
@hcmaclub5905
@hcmaclub5905 4 жыл бұрын
I currently have a taranis x9d+, is it worth it to upgrade to one of these? Currently I use all frsky rx but will transition to crossfire probably at some point. Would like the big color display but didn’t know they would be loosing frsky capability soon
@The-Opium-Den
@The-Opium-Den 4 жыл бұрын
Although I'm not into the FPV hobby yet, it seems the Radiomaster will be my daily driver when the time comes. Is it compatible with the full size TBS Crossfire module?
@matebulica4531
@matebulica4531 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua, are you planing to review Radioking TX18s?? it seems to be the exact clone of Jumper T18 lite with added usb charger and touch screen at even lower price, so could the openTx firmware for Jumper T18 be downloaded to it?
@georgevielmann
@georgevielmann 3 жыл бұрын
Hey josh thank you for your vids question I have t 18 I had drones on it and I had flown with it before but today I lost all my drones and I as at calibration screen when I Powerd it on what can I do to fix this if you know
@cfanyu6422
@cfanyu6422 4 жыл бұрын
JB, bought a T18 Pro on your recommendation. It doesn't bind with with a Jumper r1F. What receivers will it bind with, and what software needs to be flashed to get it to bind?
@teobass82
@teobass82 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua, even if the gimbal are worse than the T18, perhaps the T18 Lite could be more similar to the Radiomaster or the previous T16. What do you think about it? Have a good day 👋
@nattybumpo7156
@nattybumpo7156 4 ай бұрын
3 years later: Just bought the TX16s mk2. I got the machined AG01 gimballs, 4 in 1 model, and added on the 1w ELRS module. This thing thrashes the T18 5 in 1 that i should never have bought.
@SebastienChedalBornu
@SebastienChedalBornu 4 жыл бұрын
with the price difference just buy the radiomaster with a crossfire
@JohnFHendry
@JohnFHendry 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.... R9 will never be as pain free as Crossfire and I'm afraid Frsky has crossed the line with the public in wanting to rule the world and make their system proprietary. One thing I noticed is how similar the RF board in the Jumprer is to the original 4in1 sold by Banggood I put in my DEVO 10 running the Deviation OS back when the JJ1000 was impressive...
@cityoftrees9953
@cityoftrees9953 3 жыл бұрын
What is crossfire
@SebastienChedalBornu
@SebastienChedalBornu 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnFHendry the 4 in one modules are almost the same and they have the same firmwares. But it's not a surprise as you got the same chips and it's open source.
@SebastienChedalBornu
@SebastienChedalBornu 3 жыл бұрын
@@cityoftrees9953 keep looking Joshua's video. If you want to Google search tbs or team black sheep crossfire
@JohnFHendry
@JohnFHendry 3 жыл бұрын
@@cityoftrees9953 Generally considered the best lower frequency RC radio link made by TBS and advertised as a "long range system" but in practice is used for lower latency and better penetration and a safer RC link flying multi-rotor craft at closer distance than normal LOS flying that generally means flying above the tree line... not under and through it. FPV has actually resulted in smaller scale models (making the relative size scale of a back yard bigger) flown closer to the FPV pilot vs the LOS pilot turning an 8ft+ wingspan glider into a small speck in the sky you don't dare take your eyes off of. 2.4 gHz radio systems introduced important changes to RC flying but were also a step backwards in distance and penetration. Crossfire is a step forward again taking technology with it for the best of both worlds. Most people find true long distance flying rather boring and a pain when you or a part fails compared to up and close fast flying next to objects where failure happens a lot in achieving the goal to go fast and get better.
@dronexfun8469
@dronexfun8469 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered a RadioMaster as soon as I saw the price. Holy crap, what a deal. So much radio for a relatively low price.
@jaydronezz
@jaydronezz 4 жыл бұрын
I only use xm+ as it is adequate for what I need it for. Your findings confirm my initial hunch about the internal 2.8 antenna. Although I think the t18 is a better looking radio, this is a big put-off for me. I love Jumper radios, I've owned the t8sg plus for 2 years now with no problems, but if and when I upgrade, it looks like the Radiomaster for me! 😁
@smooth_ops2942
@smooth_ops2942 4 жыл бұрын
You need crossfire 👍🏻
@johnsmith-oh2xo
@johnsmith-oh2xo 2 жыл бұрын
For 2.4ghz on the t18 pro v2 i have has a range of over a mile or more way more range than i need flying planes and mine has a working touch screen yes it work's just have to use EdgeTX instead of OpenTX and EdgeTX fixes a bunch of the shit OpenTX has wrong with it too..
@johnsmith-oh2xo
@johnsmith-oh2xo 2 жыл бұрын
Youi need to look up a real range test this test is shit that is not how you range test a radio....
@rahmadianfam2184
@rahmadianfam2184 3 жыл бұрын
My tx16s, r9m 2019access + r9mini rx is on the way, as I read in the comment, r9m will not compatible with tx16s and should be flashed to accst. Can it be done using tx16s ? Or it needs frsky tx
@epicchris89
@epicchris89 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Joshua I am from switzerland a basicly new to long range. I have a Qx7 and was wondering what i need to buy to use the R9 module with my taranis Qx7. Could you help me? greetings from switzerland
@fallofmanbrand
@fallofmanbrand 4 жыл бұрын
great video bro
@kimjeppesen2172
@kimjeppesen2172 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua, Thanks for sharing Your videos - I really enjoy them. "Unfortunately" I've ordered the Jumper T18PRO but I'm starting to regret my decision as I fly 2,4Ghz in fixed winged planes. Do You know the actual range test of the 2,4 Ghz in an open unblocked environment, ie normal and unblocked airspace? I need to trust this Tx with my $5.000 planes.... It would be nice to be confident before I maiden this Tx ;) Have a great day and keep sharing - I'm learning a lot. Regards Kim
@pierstaylor7780
@pierstaylor7780 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I’ve the t18 but sadly live in Ireland so tough getting good weather. loved the goo,goo gar,gar
@Tomas.O.Sullivan
@Tomas.O.Sullivan 4 жыл бұрын
hey buddy im in tipperary
@miklosko3355
@miklosko3355 3 жыл бұрын
Reporting from Mayo 👍
@Tomas.O.Sullivan
@Tomas.O.Sullivan 3 жыл бұрын
@@miklosko3355 cool red alpha .
@pierstaylor7780
@pierstaylor7780 3 жыл бұрын
Co. Down
@imu4869
@imu4869 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the TX16S and a mobula 6 (frsky) I can maybe make it 100-150ft before I lose rx signal. Would this be a problem with the radio or the spi rx on mobula?
@padcom
@padcom 2 жыл бұрын
Me, I went for the Jumper with the special gimbals and after a short period of using them I replaced them with standard hall-effect gimbals. As for the TX module being problematic.. well I use ELRS all round and the support for ELRS on 900MHz is coming to the 5in1 module so... RiP R9 :D
@anselrod5699
@anselrod5699 3 жыл бұрын
bought the radio master thanks to you!
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 4 жыл бұрын
I think the better comparison is the Jumper T18 Lite. The 5n1 is an interesting idea but crossfire has years of reliability and added features that I don't feel the R9 system is going to live up to. The lite version with the 4n1 means you keep the range on 2.4 and then the only thing Radiomaster has over the Jumper is the touch screen, larger battery bay, usb charging, and better scroll wheel. I don't see the touch screen as a big deal but without seeing what opentx has in store its tough to argue. I can live the battery bay and scroll wheel. Main selling point for RadioMaster for me is the usb charging. Removing batteries and setting up a charger is just a pain when you are already dealing with flight batteries and goggle batteries. I am holding off a bit to see if Jumper releases a usb charging upgrade for the T18. My two t16's have now made it a full week without having to reseat cables so hopefully I can hang in there a little longer. If I didn't have the T16's it would be Radiomaster right now.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I definitely agree, Joshua! My X9D Plus SE is still rocking... But the T16S is really tempting! Even more if you can buy it WITH Crossfire from Banggood! Anyway, stay safe there with your beautiful family! 🖖😊
@cafub2650
@cafub2650 4 жыл бұрын
Stay with your Taranis. The others looks like really cheap cardboard radio's.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 жыл бұрын
@@cafub2650 Yeah, but... ACCST 2.0? ACCESS? I'd rather stay away from those. You know?
@cafub2650
@cafub2650 4 жыл бұрын
@@MCsCreations just and you crossfire. Like you would with the TS16.
@GBoniFPV
@GBoniFPV 4 жыл бұрын
@@MCsCreations Access is totally fine. It a pain in the A&% the update your fleet to it, but you only have to do it once. People are just hating on Frsky. I'm not sure why. Most people complaining about it are just sheep following JB. Based JB reaction, It looked like this is actually is first time really testing the ACCESS R9 system. Last time I check, frsky is a private company and not open source. They are just trying to protect their IP. Any company will do the same. Keep your X9. Last year everybody went crazy about the Jumper T16, now it turn up it just a piece of you know what. JB giving it a pass, talking about the problem started in December 2019. Painless360 had one of the first one. His also had issues. I don't have a T18, but from what I'm seeing, I can tell it not a finish product. They will keep coming with update like the did with the T16, and JB going to make Video about. Of course, all the sheep will go along and buy the upgrade that should have been in the tx from the start.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 жыл бұрын
@@GBoniFPV Maybe. But I don't want to have anything to do with it. Sorry.
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