Just wanted to clarify that they do to this day still call each other “hyung” when talking ❤

Ironically, Suga is the one who really loves cute soft things and enjoys the cuteness culture that exists in South Korea. He was the one to come up with the idea of BTS doing the cute versions of their songs (which basically sounded like kid versions of the song). Many new fans wondered how much they had to pay him to do those cute performances only to find out that he was the mastermind. He's grown to have a seemingly tough shell but he's a massive softie and the younger members know they can act cute around him to get whatever they want to get away with things he'd otherwise scold them for. They know his weakness and aren't afraid to use it lol. The duality of Suga is a rabbit hole too.

i don't think a "feminine" pose, whatever that means, should be a trigger to any negativity from the audience or regret from the boys themselves. their debut images were way more stereotypically tough, manly, hiphop, etc, i suppose because of pressure to present themselves "correctly" but i don't think they care since long ago about how they are all positioned in this discussion anymore. they've talked several times that they don't like these boundaries; they wear make up without doubting it as an "only female" option; they don't care about gender of the clothes - you'll often see them casually wearing female blouses, jackets etc on some events or just everyday life, Jungkook's clothes often belongs to the genderless brands; they had photoshoots and performances in unisex style with skirts and dangling earings and gems and pearls and whatever society tends to mark as female thing it's important to mention too that their journey up from the debut is one of letting go of the toxic masculinity and the more you see them grow in these 10 years the more you see that they have no problem with being feminine, in appearance or in behavior this especially was an important journey for jimin who struggled with their debut image, as tae said, jimin didn't have many opportunities to express himself. and jimin's own words to himself years later were "i don't look like im about to weep anymore, i don't. that's the difference as per my appearance goes. i think i wanted to appear like a strong man, now i don't have to pretend. i can just be myself, talk about myself without pretending anything. [addressing himself in the past] you were trying really hard, i was impressed and moved by you. i could feel how hard you were trying. your eyes looked eager to show something. i felt somewhat sorry for you too, i was shocked a bit. hurry up and be me soon, you will learn and realize so many things" just want you to understand that it wasn't a "feminine behavior" pushed on "real men", but rather "a tough character" pushed on normal boys i'll leave here a quote from the recent Rolling Stones interview just to give you boys' own words on the matter of masculinity: It’s not uncommon for the members of BTS to shed a tear or two while they’re addressing fans onstage. Along with their comfort with makeup and iridescent hair dye, it all plays into their instinctive rejection of rigid conceptions of masculinity. “The labels of what being masculine is, is an outdated concept,” says RM. “It is not our intention to break it down. But if we are making a positive impact, we are very thankful. We live in an age where we shouldn’t have those labels or have those restrictions.” Another interview: “There is this culture where masculinity is defined by certain emotions, characteristics. I’m not fond of these expressions,” Suga tells me. “What does being masculine mean? People’s conditions vary day by day. Sometimes you are in a good condition; sometimes you aren’t. Based on that, you get an idea of your physical health. And that same thing applies mentally. Some days you are in a good state; sometime you’re not. Many pretend to be okay, saying that they are not ‘weak’, as if that would make you a weak person. I don’t think that’s right. People won’t say you’re a weak person if your physical condition is not that good. It should be the same for mental condition as well. Society should be more understanding.”

7:34 Just to clarify like some others have "HYUNG" is a term of endearment as well as respect And you wouldn't call someone hyung that you arnt close to or at the very least are trying to develop a close relationship with All the Younger members still call older members hyung. 14:45 They were actually posing how they wanted to pose...... they were being silly/goofy and tended to do poses like that alot. They seem to enjoy it and think its funny 🤷🏾‍♀️

Jin was crying because he had a wardrobe malfunction. His pants fell down. Whomever attached his mic pack on his backside did not secure it and it pulled at his pants. Of course he was so embarrassed. His first time on stage ever. But luckily, it was a rehearsal, and they got it fixed for the actual performance.

fun fact - the guy at 3:07 (Tablo) and 4:25 (Tiger JK) are two well-respected rappers and considered pioneers of Korean hip-hop. BTS looked up to them during their debut days, and now they’re good friends! Especially the rapline - they’ve collaborated on songs and often interact / show their support. It’s amazing to see how far their hard work has gotten them, and how their craft is (rightfully) respected by their older peers in the industry :’)

today we charted #1 no more dream in a lot of countries, even in the US, just because we are missing the boys.

In their debut days, Yoongi was definitely stepping out of his comfort zone for the fans, trying to bring the energy. It's always impressed me that all 7 of the boys were such good sports, willing to give 100% for the sake of the team. That said, I'm really glad that BTS is now in a place where they (hopefully) don't feel the need to put on an act for ARMY, they can just be themselves.

One thing you will notice abt BTS as you go along this journey is that at first they tried so hard to adhere to the concept of hiphop and its masculine centered tendencies. But you will still see them as chaotic and free spirits while doing their own thing, like the "feminine poses they did." As years go by, they have become freer to express themselves as young men and they go about their likes and dislikes. It resonated with so many people even though they were just doing their own thing- they wore "feminine" clothes and accessories, they cried when they were sad and were open about it, they talked about love for oneself, for family and friends, they talked about deep philosophical things they read about or seen in movies etc... They wreaked so many havoc on the biases and prejudices of so many people. They showed that it is okay to be those things, to like those things. When called out for misunderstood lyrics as misogynistic, what Namjoon did was, he apologized and held himself accountable, he asked a Women's Studies professor to proofread his lyrics to make sure it won't happen again. So yeah, you might find yourself cringing when you catch yourself doing something not totally your style but was influenced by the members, that is okay. They do influence us in the most positive way that is life changing. That is guaranteed. They just are so positive despite and in spite of the challenges they faced and the fame they have. This is the BTS influence dude. And if people around you give you shite about it, maybe it's time to indoctrinate them to the BTS way? 😅😂 But seriously though, preconceived notions are gonna be blown to smithereens. They do inspire us to be better, you know?

i think suchwita sugas show will be great for you to watch every member was invited on the show as guest

i think you’re reading a lot things too intensely, like suga can be loud when he wants to be. like he’s not jhope loud 24/7 but he can definitely be loud. All of bts can get very loud

I WANTED TO SEE JKS PART 😭

Perfect day to upload video we just charted no more dream and are having comeback of there first album

Just FYI, V didn't join later than the rest. He was just hidden from the audience until they debuted. In fact, Jimin joined even later than him. They just didn't want to reveal V yet. So it's not that he wasn't there, he just wasn't shown to the public. And they still call the members that are older 'hyung' until this day.

They still use hyung, except when Jungkook calls Jimin-shi lol

15:24. Hmmmm? Your comment about them posing in a feminine way comment was puzzling to me. You said they were copying poses like the other groups. Posing feminine? Their costumes were the opposite of feminine. Their choreography was opposite of feminine. Portraying being bulletproof is opposite of being feminine. In fact their stereotype they labeled themselves back then was highly masculine. And you think that style of posing was feminine? I could be wrong. But all of the poses BTS took that made it to print and marketing were not feminine. What you saw...I think...was a silly pose after they had finished taking all their serious masculine poses. A break from all their hard work. In my opinion. The poses you saw on their vlogs and videos were of them goofing off and acting crazy. And yes, they were young. But to this day ..the old age they are now...they still pose goofy and crazy and youthful sometimes. But from my perspective none of their silly poses back then were feminine. I understand I come from a completely different point of view. You come from a strength training body building environment. And I think maybe that limits your view. You said your friends looked down on them and considered them feminine. I get that. However, I don't think BTS ever got any negative press or any questionable articles written about them appearing feminine. If they did, I've never seen or heard about it. Other than those underground rappers calling Suga and RM girls because they wore makeup. You are right. All performers were makeup. Otherwise they would look blank and "dead" on stage. I can promise you this. Even when they turn 40 and 50 and 60 and older...they will take their serious non feminine photos for the press articles. But also, they will always take silly funny goofy "feminine" pics also. But they do not think they are feminine. Just funny. Just letting go. Just being themselves. Young at heart poses.

So, just to clarify some things... in this particular era several BTS members were actually pushing themselves to be more macho than they really were. They were avoiding being feminine at all costs due to their hiphop origins and the criticisms they got from the underground scene. Specially this tough macho image took a heavy mental toll on Jimin and Jin. Jimin later talked about coming to terms with his self image and masculinity in 2016. He stopped trying to be all manly and just became himself. Jin talked about how in 2015 finally he allowed himself to be more goofy and therefore he felt free for the first time. Its only after 2016 that BTS for the first time tried more "feminine" or more androgynous styles. You will what i mean when you get to the WINGS album. So what i want you to understand is that bts from 2016 accepted more gender fluid styles to finally free themselves from the limitations of masculinity. In 2016, they had a high fashion image, with heavy makeup and references to the book Demian where a man kisses another man at the end of the book, symbolic of growing up. In 2019 they made a song called boy with luv where they wore all pink and sang abojt having love wothin themselves. None of the bts members are scared of being percived as feminine... if that means being free. They wear bright hair colors, high fashion cloths, heavy makeup. Jk loves Gender fluid styles.... jhope even recently wore nail polish for the entirety of his album promotions. Its about freedom and expression.

Amazing channel. I've always had this androgynous look as guys in K POP, but in my case it was a real fuel for bullies when I was growing up. I embraced it, used it to my advantage in my acting / modeling career, I was almost the face of Leon in these new Resident Evil games :) To anyone who's ever been a victim of hate / violence because of their appearance, gender, orientation, race : DO NOT ever let a hateful notion 'there's something wrong with me' sink in. Trust me, it's a recipe for self hatred and compulsive anxieties later on. When we suffer and we need a break, it's only natural to think: 'maybe if I wasn't 'different', if I was 'normal' I would be accepted. No, haters will always find something else to prey upon. They're extremely toxic who can see your potential and value but will drag you down with intent and hideus determination, when they notice a slightest sign of insecurity. Remember; There's never anything wrong with you.

Respectfully disagree with some of your statements. I do not think the funny or goofy poses are the reasons for how some people put labels on others or propagate "stereotypes" which should not be done in the first place. I also have noticed that you seem to describe certain things in terms of "masculine" or "feminine" even in one In The Soop episode you labelled certain chores as masculine. There is no gender with chores. Please bear in mind that you probably have a global audience who do not see things the way you do. I understand that your observations are based on your experiences but making generalizations and judgments especially about BTS may be off the mark as you grew up in the US and your frame of reference is that of a Western lens and influenced by your background. BTS will not fit that frame of reference.

Hyung is what you call people after you become close, before you call them sunbae or something similar. In Korea younger people never really fully remove the honourifics no matter how close they are ( the youngest members don’t follow this rule a lot of the time)

BTS are extremely goofy like it had nothing with stereotypes. I think that’s just who they are even right now they are still very goofy.

"- i see the passion in our eyes! - its the eyeliner" Iykyk 😂

Fun fact: BTS no more dream has reached #1 on US itunes for the first time ever. It was originally release as a debut track back in 2013. It's their 3rd new entry this "week" (remember they are on hiatus not we army) And no more dream has become the first and only Korean/kpop group debut song to reach #1 on US itunes, after a decade of release.. The way I love the fandom is undescribable😂, the started on Twitter with army's randomly saying we should top some BTS old music like N.O, danger, NMD and also buy dark and wild album again which we did and few days ago we did the same with spring day, bro Idk why I'm laughing and someone just brought another idea again and we are starting another listening party😂 bye gotta go serve my military service in it💜

They do still address the older members 'hyung' it's just that the subtitles exclude it. For example, JK. He addresses all the other members 'hyung' because all of them is older than him. The same goes to the other members. They must address 'hyung' to whoever member that is older than them. (ex. Jin-hyung, Yoongi-hyung, Namjoon-hyung)

I think your attitude regarding prejudice and stereotypes is a bit misguided. Instead of saying "these people were doing this so it's only natural that others would judge them" the actual growth from prejudice would be "there's actually nothing wrong with these people doing this, I was just brought up to believe there was" because if you think bts in 2023 have stopped doing cute poses you are sorely mistaken lmao. They do not care if people see them as masculine or feminine because that way of thinking only puts people in boxes. Also try not to do the same to individual members, namely Suga, because every person on earth is multi-faceted and even an introvert can get wild and crazy if they're with people they love and trust and Suga really loves his members, family, and his fans.

Jin had a clothing malfunction that we won't go further into which is why he was crying.

Coincidentally, today (NO MORE DREAM ) is #1 on iTunes

actually they still call the older bros "hyung". it's how they show respect. even yoongi being only 3 months younger than jin, he still calls jin "seokjin hyung". unless they're in teasing manner, they still always use the word "hyung" to address the older members. probably because you watch contents that didn't literally translate their korean well (ex. BTS In The Soop) but if you listen, they called older members with hyung (re: hyeong). seokjinie hyung, yoongi hyung, hobi/hoseokie hyung, namjoonie hyung, jiminie hyung, taehyungie/v hyung, & jungkookie.

Since kpop is more of an industry than a genre, many people who were once idols move on to do other things in the industry. Some may become dancers, choreographers, teacher in the arts, actors (many idols are in kdramas too), solo singers, show hosts, MCs for shows, or re-debut in another group. Also, since idols are expected to complete their education (often including college), many can transition into normal jobs too if they're done with that life entirely.

Jungkook part always make me cry😭

Suga, Jin and Jungkook actually introvert persons ... The shyest person are Jin and Jungkook.

pls continue rise of bangtan pls pls pls

I love watching your reactions. A quick note. Ive never known anyone to get a copyright strike for this series including for the songs. So please don't kill the audio during their music. Also, did you edit out part of the JK birthday scene? One minute he was feeling bad and then we skipped on to V - I think. I could swear you cut several scenes short. PLEASE don't edit other people's work. If I'm mistaken I apologize. Thanks for the reaction.

Just fyi Armys doing a project yesterday 15 dec 2023, to buy their debut song which were attack on bangtan and no more dream to get #1 on i tunes especially in US. And there is project for 2024 as well honestly. I feel like i'm in their debut era, apparently i'm Army jungkook world cup era 😂 it was just a year ago 😅

I always love watching The Rise of Bangtan series with the reactors, and I looked forward to seeing yours. However, I was disappointed that you are the only reactors who didn't show the entire chapter to the audience. I really hope this is not how you are going to do the rest of the chapters.

28:19 Personally I prefer when reactors are informed about whatever subject they're reacting to. So I don't mind that you've already heard/seen the songs you're going to react to. I'm more interested in your thoughts and how the music makes you feel than whether or not it's your first time hearing it.

If someone did actually have an idol career and retire, a lot end up working in the industry, as song writers or producers or in radio or turn to acting or musical theatre etc. Trainees on the other hand has more variable outcomes, some do stay in the industry still tho.

Can't describe how much of warmth I'm feeling right now seeing you diving to their debut songs and stories I'm just so glad that you're doing because sincerely you wanna learn more about them i really appreciate that so much thank you so much for your reactions I'll keep waiting for your daily updates 🥰💜💜💜

V would still call the older members (Jin, Suga, J-Hope, RM) hyungs. It's the term for a male close friend or older brother (if you are also a male). It's already a informal term for close relationships in korea.

Watch “Blue and Grey” song with lyrics and background story before going ahead to watch In the soop episode 6

I love watching the same videos over and over again with different reactors because I also learn or notice something new each time. For example @ 2:00 - what is Yoongi perched on? LOL. It's not a desk like the other members.

Aint no way you're considering their poses as feminine.💀 they're litterally goofing around. And even if they were , there is nothing wrong with it. At least they are embracing both sides of them without caring about toxic masculinity!.

I was waiting for this, and then i missed it.😂

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Why JK ‘s part birthday get cutt.. ommo😮

Its not a MV, you havent missed out on anything. The dancing you were talking about is a consept trailer for the album, it was released as promotional video before they released the second album. There is a dance practice video for that, but its not related to their songs. If that makes sense. And you can absolutely watch Rise of Bangtan without going through all of their MVs first, most of the content on Rise of bangtan is not really about their music, its much more like behind the scenes content.

Os meninos não se importam em parecerem femininos. Eles simplesmente são eles. Especialmente no comeco eles eram obrigados a parecerem mais masculinos pela imagem que o grupo deveria passar... Mas com o tempo graças a Deus, cada um pode ser e se mostrar como realmente É. Recentemente Jimin mesmo falou sobre isso.

6:21 watch this video " I Trained With BTS: Being on the Brink of Fame and Then Losing it All"

Just curious. What is your real name? Rex doesn't seem like a Mongolian name. Or are you more American than Mongolian? You never mention work either. Just working out. Again, I'm just curious. Thank you for watching these shows. Of course I've seen them. But it's fun to see these shows through your eyes, a new baby Army. And oh, congratulations on being new Army. Did you register and pay the fee to join?😂 Ha. Just kidding. It's free. The only time you have to register is when you buy concert tickets. But good luck with that. They sell out within minutes. You get assigned a place "in the line", but aren't guaranteed the tickets won't be sold out by the time you make it to the first in line. Their L.A. and Las Vegas tickets sold out so fast that they didn't have any left to sell to the public!!!

Exo is good but the fans... nevermind 😂😂

Suga, Jin and Jungkook actually introvert persons ... The shyest person are Jin and Jungkook.