Jungleman Dishes on Game of Gold, Tom Dwan Debts

Jungleman Dishes on Game of Gold, Tom Dwan Debts | Life Outside Poker #11

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In the 11th episode, Connor speaks with Dan "Jungleman" Cates about accountability in poker, his notorious heads-up challenge with Tom Dwan, Game of Gold, climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, mindfulness in poker and his new podcast Winning the Game of Life. Cates also talked about his iconic Poker Players Championship outfits and a six-figure downswing he experienced at Bellagio during the summer.
Time stamps:
0:00 Intro
0:32 Six-figure downswing at Bellagio
4:54 Going back into teaching
06:44 Accountability in poker
07:52 Creating jobs for poker players
12:06 How to hold players accountable
18:18 Has Tom Dwan paid his debts
21:30 Being one of the best heads-up players
21:54 Getting into poker in college
24:32 Video games
27:11 Winning the PPC back-to-back
31:07 PPC outfits
33:34 Game of Gold
38:08 Starting a podcast
44:37 Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro and Mount Kailash
49:11 Mindfulness in poker
50:44 What makes you hopeful?
52:32 Advice for younger self
53:16 Life lessons from poker
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@tonyflow6244 Ай бұрын

Jungle is gloriously odd

@JasonCannon-th3pc Ай бұрын

I think he’s a very smart guy that pretends to be dumb

@Bowling_Dude Ай бұрын

A lot of people who are extremely intelligent in things like math or science often are pretty reserved with their emotions as they approach life in a very analytical way. I think that's the case here with Jungle.

@tonyflow6244 Ай бұрын

@@Bowling_Dude he’s never really made a secret or a philosophy about his neurodivergence, if only we could all be so unapologetic and successful 😘

@ww2079 Ай бұрын

Jungle Musk

@genesises Ай бұрын

@@JasonCannon-th3pc he's not pretending anything. he's just doing him and doesn't care at all wether you think he seems dumb or not.

@dlo2895 Ай бұрын

Wow I wasn’t expecting that level of empathy and genuineness from jungle 👏

@ants84 Ай бұрын

Yes he’s a genius, yes he’s different, but most importantly he clearly has a good heart and that’s why people genuinely like him.

@Stefanburakov 26 күн бұрын

Great Guy

@ZalexMusic 26 күн бұрын

good take.

@LevelofClarity Ай бұрын

This is a fantastic Interview.

@shanemichael3925 Ай бұрын

Tax man would love to hear more about the cash game

@benjaminthishandleistaken 25 күн бұрын

What an interesting and likeable chap.

@AncientCoinStory 24 күн бұрын

Great guy.

@bentonja668 Ай бұрын

Best all-around poker player in the world

@Stefanburakov 26 күн бұрын

I meet him in Brazil very nice Guy, gave him a GL chip from Macao 🎉

@SpaceMonkey616 Ай бұрын

I really love the Jungle, he's such a great guy. The world is a far more interesting place with him in it. Thanks for this podcast.

@toms3664 Ай бұрын

We love Jungle man ! Would love to play head up Pai Gow poker against Jungle

@2160michael Ай бұрын

My favorite player of all time

@haypapa 23 күн бұрын

I like his ideas...

@biillyy Ай бұрын

this video of him just made me change my whole image of him..he’s a good dude besides that he b dressing all crazy

@DEGENERATE_sendit Ай бұрын

Man this guy is such a genius. He gave the most long winded explanation of a credit score for poker players I’ve ever heard, because he knows he’s way more intelligent than the average person and feels like he needs to make a complex idea very simple…as many geniuses do. 🐐

@luvtotrade2009 Ай бұрын

he is 34 but no one would be shocked if he was 54

@billj4525 Ай бұрын

He does appear much older than 34, at least very late 40s.

@tommyfu9271 Ай бұрын

He looks older than 34 but c'mon 54 is absurd

@arthurfonzarelli9828 20 күн бұрын

just needs to cut his hair short and shave and he look fine. Scruffy balding men always look older. Not like he has gray hair and wrinkles.

@randywade5095 Ай бұрын

Mushrooms or what 😂

@Joseph-ny5rr 19 күн бұрын

I am trying to guess myself lol. Something good for sure.

@brewsandbass5572 Ай бұрын

He reminds me of Jack Nicholson.

@billj4525 Ай бұрын

Really? I don't see that, but I'm curious to what about him reminds you of Jack? The fact that they're both somewhat odd?

@Will_Moffett Ай бұрын

He's pretty much the opposite of both Nicholsons characters and real life persona. Nicholson represents impulse driven narcissism with a penchant for violence and snark and levels of smugness ordinary people can't concieve. Jungleman seems like the opposite of that to me.

@brewsandbass5572 Ай бұрын

@@billj4525 Hard to understand his thinking.

@JICM25 Ай бұрын

@@Will_Moffett AHAHA, brilliant descrption

@pedaltheglobe419 11 күн бұрын

How do we access the online community he is building?

@alib5085 Ай бұрын

That's D cat, a legendary jungleman

@RaddyKahl Ай бұрын

I wish Jungle was my dad

@ButtPunisher-qv4fb Ай бұрын

Legend

@bennybeeeee Ай бұрын

Ask him. Worst case, he says no.

@BeegYoshi24 Ай бұрын

You want an absent autistic father?

@markhatkevich6082 Ай бұрын

He is ,looks like you

@Burbs1976 Ай бұрын

Jungle is definitely wired different. Great player

@michielankersmit8656 Ай бұрын

I never expected him to play Fire Emblem, good taste!

@michaelb4090 Ай бұрын

The reason people don’t like others to know where they play is probably a safety thing even if they don’t realize it I think 🤔 the jungle is the man 🎉

@gergohegyesi2266 Ай бұрын

I am 42 but this guy looks much much older.. But really nice fella🙂

@marvinsgardenproduce798 Ай бұрын

Good luck finding a way to make it fun long-term for "recreationals" to lose. There will always be a cap on how many people there are who are willing to lose money playing at a disadvantage.

@dullatron Ай бұрын

A chapter on "mindfulness in poker." Apparently Cates' mindfulness betrayed him when he mussed Airball's hundreds of thousands in chips all over the table in that stream from the Lodge.

@RCFSULAW Ай бұрын

I would suggest an arbiter that has been a lawyer and also a poker player. In arbitration the arbiter hears both sides of a case and makes a decision that includes summary of the case and findings of fact. It can be notarized and then held by a 5 player Board of Directors elected by peers. The peer group would be players who voluntarily join to police the game.

@mrsiimes8463 Ай бұрын

He is not only high on life

@darylmixan8170 24 күн бұрын

Jungle stuck in the "Best Poker player= inteligent in Everything" mode... He isbtrying to hard but I love it

@scottalford7393 28 күн бұрын

yeah he was loving life raking £25 per hand in london private games

@paulosborne9404 Ай бұрын

Jungle is great

@dcunited01 21 күн бұрын

I’m prob gonna have half a turkey sandwich and not gonna toast the bread. Just a fold over with cheese and some miracle whip.

@Joseph-ny5rr 19 күн бұрын

Miracle whip 😢😢 dont do the sandwich that injustice.

@dancargioli6120 19 күн бұрын

@@Joseph-ny5rr I'm usually a mayo guy but Miracle Whip is good too.

@Jealod24 10 күн бұрын

The charisma in this room is blinding… geez guys, simmer down.

@330miggs 23 күн бұрын

15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD

@mult336 Ай бұрын

i likke it

@stevet8121 Ай бұрын

What happened to him after he combed his hair?

@Mike-lp4iq 18 күн бұрын

He didn't look like he came out of being in the jungle for a while ? Cates is an awesome player and great guy

@dirkdiggler7887 26 күн бұрын

Jungle, call it the Grey List. Also use Black List for the real bad.

@terrymiller111 22 күн бұрын

On the spectrum, but in a good way (if you know what I mean) I was never diagnosed, but I am eccentric, too.

@user-zu2ge9vs6y Ай бұрын

How is life in the gambling jungle?

@frankflex4465 23 күн бұрын

what about players who lose other peoples cash to like multi millions

@tommypitcock9928 21 күн бұрын

There is to much hidden money to have a accountability in money owed due taxes

@SJtoobsox Ай бұрын

Is Cates trained in anything?

@jonnyhicks2076 Ай бұрын

winning millions in cash games hahaha

@ww2079 Ай бұрын

$100 an hour lol

@Gorgula 24 күн бұрын

Semi-rich person thinks $100/hr is nothing. Ultra-rich offer $12/hr max. Funny how that works.

@alexthedeal1827 Ай бұрын

'Poker helps to create a middle class'......... wow.. It's good that he talks about society but it's not all gold

@dullatron Ай бұрын

I wondered about that too, then I thought about all the jobs that card rooms provide. I;m not sure whether it's a net negative or net positive overall in terms of raising people into a middle class, but if you project (hope) that most poker income comes from people who can afford to lose, then it stands to reason that the jobs provided do help create middle class jobs.

@uBenji1234 Ай бұрын

Hard to see the diff between millionaire poker pro n homeless...

@randywade5095 Ай бұрын

Mushrooms

@Will_Moffett Ай бұрын

"Don't we want everyone to win" Nope. There are only a small percentage of us who want that. And probably the only reason I want it is not because Im a great guy but because I realize that, in the nuclear age, it's either we all win or we all die. Wanting everyone to win is the moral and rational position.

@noahschmartz2354 Ай бұрын

how were any of Dwans bluffs courageous or valid if he was using money borrowed from people and having no intention of paying it back?

@GRice999 Ай бұрын

"No intention of paying it back?" Where did you hear that? The issue with Cates is not finishing a heads-up challenge where he fell far behind. Then with slow paying when an agreed upon settlement was made. I haven't heard he borrowed money and refused to pay it back.

@davemarnell8871 Ай бұрын

He's probably being fronted the money (by people running the game, maybe) and the only way he profits is if he wins.

@JasonJohnContos Ай бұрын

@@GRice999you’ve obviously got your head in the sand if you support Dwan and aren’t aware of his debt situation.

@GRice999 Ай бұрын

@@JasonJohnContos Support Dwan? When did I do that? And how did you come to that asinine conclusion?

@spleeeen4it 26 күн бұрын

He's not " all there" is he, nice guy though.

@dennishora3328 Ай бұрын

The Elon Musk of poker!

@Jealod24 10 күн бұрын

It’s cute he thinks poker can elevate the poor into a middle class. Definitely doesn’t show how sheltered and out of touch he is.

@UbuPluto 17 күн бұрын

Is he on drugs?

@BohoFreedom Ай бұрын

He is an amazing poker player but absolutely NO business sense. Clueless.

@MikeJones-zu7cq Ай бұрын

I watch him and know about him. But is this dude on drugs , odd , or a combination of both?

@howard5992 Ай бұрын

Odd only.

@Lexngton 6 күн бұрын

autism

@jonyrodz Ай бұрын

Does he dress like a homeless guy on purpose? He should also fire his hair stylist!

@CRAIG5835 Ай бұрын

It is summer in Vegas, and they are currently breaking records for the temperature. Dressing that way he gets a pass from actual street beggars they think he is 'Staff.'

@billj4525 Ай бұрын

Did you listen to the interview? I feel like someone who thinks the way he does is not going to care much about dressing well or his hair. I mean he could, but I have my doubts.

@genesises Ай бұрын

@@billj4525 the upside is you save time and you don't have to deal with people like the original commenter - who are superficial to the point of being judgmental

@andrewdinns1746 Ай бұрын

he used to be best dressed in poker lol.

@user-um1kr8vy1e Ай бұрын

This guys talk in circles. Just play poker dude.

@steveo288 Ай бұрын

Jungleman has yet to discover what a comb is used for. Why is is important too know who plays at what casino? Who cares? I couldn't watch more than 4 minutes as both these guys were putting me asleep.

@tommyfu9271 Ай бұрын

Bye

@ww2079 Ай бұрын

Talking abouf poker debt for 30 mins yawn who cares. Mosnt debts originate from greddy backers

@tommyfu9271 Ай бұрын

Most debt originate from a ton of shitty broke "pros" Most backers never make a dime from these losers.

@ww2079 Ай бұрын

@tommyfu9271 yeah because of terrible staking deals that leave players stuck in makeup until they bail out of the "deal"

@tommyfu9271 Ай бұрын

@@ww2079 how is that terrible? The backer ends up losing money not the tournament "pro". It's a good deal for the so called" pro".

@ww2079 Ай бұрын

@tommyfu9271 yeah they just spend tons of time making zero money with tons more time Committed to getting out of the makeup

@tommyfu9271 Ай бұрын

@@ww2079 if they're good and win they make money, if they get buried they break even as opposed to losing tons of money if they were playing on their own time. 95 percent of these backed "pro" are losers wasting their lives who need to get jobs.

@RudyB-ti8ye 26 күн бұрын

I like Dan but some of his philosophy borders on socialism.

@spleeeen4it 26 күн бұрын

Good. It's not a dirty word in Europe

@pedaltheglobe419 11 күн бұрын

Yes he plays a zero-sum game as a career. The irony.

@RudyB-ti8ye 11 күн бұрын

@@spleeeen4it It would be if they knew freedom. You know like we used to have before the government grew and the media quit telling both sides of the story.