Junior Dev -> One monitor Mid -> Two monitors Senior -> Three Top dawg -> Joshua

How to stop being junior developer. Stop calling yourself junior. You are web developer or software developer or software engineer. When you go on interview for a job they will see how much skills you have.

Senior dev is when you don't care of the language, only the data structures.

You know you are Junior Dev when you have animated wallpapers and RGB gaming keyboard. Booom ;)

The dream was to do this full-time and now your dream came true. Congratulations Joshua.

Stop apologizing for trying to make money dude. Thanks for the video

I think that what makes you Senior level has less to do with the technology and much more to do with design patterns, clean code, and sheer experience. Although I agree if you dont completely know a stack you can be behind but you have the coumpounding force of years of knowledge that will make you much more valuable than a junior at doing the same job (if you are good). Smart employers hire for these raw skills if the unicorn cant be found.

Hey man, stumbled on your KZfaq last week. I'm in a career change towards front-end development so your channel has been a huge help

You deserve more subscribers. As always, true.

Man, your channel is growing fast, 11000 subscribers! Congratulations man, love your content. Cheers from China.

I've done sold out. Serious though. Thanks for the support monetarily or not!

My thoughts...The years of experience are very subjective. I have seen people with 20 years experience who have practically done 1 year twenties. It’s best to stay at a company for 2-4 years, plus to keep learning and have side open source projects. What makes a senior developer are things around coding, design patterns, architecture, OPs, automating testing, performance, security, accessibility etc. As one gets more senior, titles become less important and the less the developer thinks they know 🤓, you are right “don’t let years & title define you” 👍, thanks for sharing

The difference : some are a bit older and know how to pretend they know what they are doing

I think you are putting a lot of emphasis on the technical side where there is other key areas that gives you some level of seniority: ownership, listening, leadership for example...

I don't like the notion that levels are measured through time worked. I was hoping to get a different point of view. For instance I've been a web dev for 3 years, and my team says I am ready for a senior level assessment. I think this is a very interesting topic and that there is more to explore and discuss.

Personally I think 1-2 years you are a Jr. anything after that you are a software developer. You need to always keep in mind that you are learning, expanding your knowledge and experience. After that you may be experts in certain types of technologies. Get strong on the basics, diversify and always stay curious.

The salaries that you mentioned don’t apply to NYC. Start is around 105-110k.

Nice video! I think your estimate for junior (1-3 years) is too long though. Most devs can handle the given tasks by themselfs (which is a requirement for being a middle) after one year. Some can even do it after half a year. So I'd say on average this estimates will be closer to the correct ones: 0 - 1.5 - junior 1.5 - 3.5 - middle 3.5+ - senior

Happy birthday, Josh! There’s a likely chance I’ll be entering a Bootcamp soon, and your videos have been super helpful. Thank you for everything.

Knowledge is free Freedom is power Knowledge is power

The other thing to remember is that companies will always need people to convert code from one code base to another, so as long as you are realatively smart you can get spun up on the latest tech.

I've never seen a "mid-level" job. It's always senior positions with a few juniors sprinkled around, and most of those require 3 years experience in the framework I just created a year ago.

I had a recent experience where I had to on-board developers for a client. I found it took about 4 to 6 months to on board Junior developers. What surprised me was the last developer I on-boarded had 30+ years experience and I was able to on-board him in 2 weeks even though he had no experience with the tech stack or tooling. I think that the programming patterns that seniors acquire accelerate their ability to adapt to new patterns and code bases much quicker even if they are unfamiliar with the paradigms or languages. I find mid-level devs the hardest to on-board. Most of the time it was due to the lack of experience with creating technical debt. Most of the mid-level devs on this project produced over complicated code with huge maintenance costs to account for assumed future risk. This lead our client in spending way over budget, which lead them into hiring more seniors.

Your video is awesome, you speak of the reality a lot of developer's face nowadays, these companies expect people to be lile robots, you basically need to know all the fucking technologies in order to get a job, you will find job ads like "We need a junior developer who has at least 3 years of experience, knows at least 4 programming language plus 8 frameworks, the truth of the matter these companies want a person who can do the job of 4 people while paying you a shitty salary, they will exploit you as much as they can, and you being a junior/midlevel developer you will most probably fall for that because you have to start somewhere.

The ability to mentor others is important as a senior.

I'd say there's even the added dimension of front end and back end. In my team it's necessitated that the 3 of us who maintain 14 apps and are currently building 2 news ones have to be full-stack, but honestly I'm fairly useless at UI design and coding. If you toss a problem that needs multiprocessing and careful performance considerations, I will probably wipe the floor with most 4th year devs. I don't know why. I just think in cache lines and separation of concerns without effort. The only commonalities across our apps are the Microsoft SQL Server back ends. One is a 20-project C# monolithic beast that is everything about SOA done wrong and is responsible for the single view of HR every day, one is a C# .NET Entity Framework monolith that actually adheres to the single responsibility principle, one is a Java Spring Boot and AgularJS 1.0 front end with Spring Boot micro services, several are ColdFusion monoliths, one is just a static HTML + JQuery web page to act as a supplementary data processing app to change from one format to the other, and our newest is a JHipster monolith that is a supplemental app to our oldest and worst ColdFusion app with totally new business functionality, and that's Spring Boot + Angular 5/6. You can be a mid to senior-level thinker and developer and not be particularly good at any one stack depending on your years of experience and environment. You can be creative and smart enough to solve some wickedly tough problems in legacy systems and not have a ton of experience after college/uni. I think most of your video holds true, but at the end of the day, it's skill and confidence, not experience, that carries you through and finishes a project. But maybe I'm just the exception to the rule. I'm not quite 2 years into the employment game, but I've absorbed and learned and fought a lot, and I'd say I've got enough specialist background in high performance computing and distributed systems from my masters-level studies senior year, and I've had to be the sole owner of an app that determines what people get paid after yearly performance reviews in a language I didn't know existed when I left school, so you shouldn't stratify based on age in my opinion, as you said. And yeah, everyone in my team works 45-55-60 hour weeks because we lack the luxury of having everything in one back-end language. We have to cover for each other all the time and have to share knowledge all the time because there just isn't enough skill in the world to make up for knowledge of business process and core language weirdness. Love your work. Keep going.

It's just a title. Generally in my experience in content publishing the guy who was there the longest is the senior dev, and everyone else is a web developer, and the newest guy is considered the junior dev, but junior usually is not part of their title. Besides a lot of these titles are changing. Like now there are ui/ux specialists, data specialists, devops, adops, etc.

The junior level vs senior level "I found A bug"' is such a reality check.

I became an expert in Angular, and now every single new product in SF-Bay Area is built on React/Redux. Talk about a bad decision. I literally cannot get a job because I don't have 2+ years in React.

I think the notion of specializing on a stack is key here, because outside of web development, I don't think that's the case eg. Java or C++

"You're almost junior in every aspect" is *still* _VERY_ applicable to senior devs who're looking to find a new job. especially when coming from a long tenure at a small code shop where it's time-prohibitive to always follow the technological 'moving target' with ground-up rebuilds in an ever-flowing sea of new languages, given that customers still want new features. unless they meet a potential new employer's stack item for item, a senior dev has just as little chance as a junior dev in getting the job. don't get me started on the code challenges which "shouldn't take more than 30 minutes" ...yes, i'm bitter asf *

Good luck Josh. You are a good guy!!!

Mid and senior are interchangeable. I was senior in my last job but in my current one it says just “engineer” but also I’ve seen my description as “SME”, which I technically am. It also relies on the field being large enough to discern a mid from senior level. If your field is burgeoning or if there aren’t enough people to fill the roles, then you jump to senior real quick. And that should be expected. Of the currently available body of knowledge, you know enough to warrant a senior role, or given the current workforce, your knowledge set is a higher percentile.

i guess i need one more screen :D :D ,thnx bro,love your tips and channel

Jeez, has the pay really gone up that much since 2018? Or am I in way over my head? Out of a boot camp and got an $85k/year offer. Might be area? Philadelphia. Still, scared of the level of expectation here lol.

in miami: jr -> $0 ~ $24k mid -> $33K ~ $40K senior -> $45 ~ $55K $60K or more , they tell you only if you can walk on water, if you can't you don't deserve a salary of over $60K

thanks for the value ;)

Amazing! Seriously good job.

Thank you! It was very helpful.

The starting salaries in the UK for a junior dev are like £25 000 a little higher in London, but cant believe how much higher it is in the US !

What is up with the hairdoo? I was expecting you to end the video with ""Surf's up dudes!".

I'm working 7 years but I feel like I'm midlevel.. I've work in different languages but not in a senior levels. I think I have this some type of crisis where i don't know where I'm expert of

Happy birthday dude! Your channel has been a great source of info - thanks

Happy birthday bro! P.S. You are absolutely killing it with the content

thanks mate, this video help me to think about bymyself :)

Not sure where you’re from but in NYC a junior developer can make around 80 - 110k (potentially more if you go to a bigger company and came out of a big school), a mid level makes 100 - 150k, senior developers should be making no less than 120k and up to 200k. These might sound high but that’s generally what I’ve seen. Source: I’m a dev in NYC and a lot of my friends are devs in NYC

The salary bands you mention only really apply to smaller cities. You can start at $100k+ (if you're good at negotiating, a more common range is like $70-80k) in SF or NYC, around $150k as mid level, and even up to like $500k as a senior developer with 7+ years of experience. There is a LOT of money in those tech hubs and plenty to go around.

Great content as usual

Hello, I'm a frontend engineer and I think I'm a junior developer. I'm learning data structure and algorithm to improve skills and become a mid-level engineer. I'm not sure what I'm doing is right or not. Especially, the more I learned the more I felt that I'm not enough to be a mid-level engineer. If you give me some advice to improve myself as an engineer, then I would appreciate you. Thank you :) Btw, your videos are very useful and thankful for someone like me!

Hey, love the vids. Note. Your salary figures are way off (low) on the mid and senior levels. Look up the Robert Half Technology yearly salary survey for more accurate. You will see tons of variables. Local cost of living, titles and industry verticals. Whole other video. Cheers.

HR LADY YO WHERE DEM NOOTS?

How many projects does a developer do in a year at the same company ?

Thanks Josh

good info there

dat SPONGEBOZZ wallpaper lol. do you know that SPONGEBOZZ is a German Rapper?

This isnt really what happened in my experience. For me, I taught myself coding while on another job. Then I worked up to being half of my role. It was a small company so I was completely in charge of our IT and software development. Then I got a job where I was paid full-time, started out as a junior, but again a small team and I got to make a lot of decisions about our technology stack. Not really any strict limits. Full responsibility

where are these salary number based on? these seem really extremely low, are these salaries based in mid west area or other less populated region? 80k - 100k seems to be the norm for junior level in NYC, and 130k - 200k seems to be the norm for senior engineer in NYC. Are these salaries based on some type of part time schedule?

Josh happy birthday 🎉! May ask a question since on your previous videos regarding applying to jobs and getting interviews you have being careful to say and announce to your current employer that you are not leaving or getting another job. How do they feel about you doing this full time?

Happy Birthday !

Happy birthday Josh!

Happy Birthday Josh! Could you talk about living in another country? You mentioned that you lived in Finland previously, but I wasn't sure if you worked on software when living there. I have been considering moving to Finland for a little bit (dual citizen) if I can find the right full-time remote job.

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2 years later 443k subscribers. Crazy how much your channel has grown and the adversity you've had to overcome. Bring the hairstyle back but get a face tattoo. Oh and I don't know if you play video games anymore but some gaming content would be cool.

you can call yourself a junior, but never promote yourself as a junior(in an interview etc) you experience and resume will say Junior for you lol keep coding and learning. A lot of companies refrain from entry level and jr level positions and just call it software associate w/3-5yrs experience etc so they can weed out all Jrs and want a senior level at a Jr pay etc

At 3:58 you give a brief summary of what senior level is. You completely misunderstood what senior level is about. I suspect that is because you were never on a senior level position. You said senior level can write nice code and optimize it. In my opinion senior level does a lot more than that - he can do whole architecture, can pick and implement new technologies and most importantly can teach other developers.

What if you live in my country where the boss's friends get the senior position

If you've been coding all your life but haven't done much of it for other people, what level are you?

My takeaway from this video: "I dunno"

sweet like a skill tree in a videogame :)

When you say you're working 2 jobs, are they programming jobs? I find myself at the 2 year mark at the job I'm currently at and feel like doing some freelancing/solo learning is going to be the best career move for me. Obviously I can't just up and leave and not worry about money, so I was looking for some part time work to keep me afloat. Having some trouble finding part time programming work, so I might resort to what I did before I became a programmer and that's working at a restaurant.

Would you mind telling me what wallpapers you are using there and what you use to even get live wallpapers to begin with on windows 10 (dunno maybe it´s baked in now, didn´t pay much attention to those kinds of updates). Though, those wallpapers look seriously amazing!!! :O

Hey, been watching your videos. I’m currently learning Front End Development thru Treehouse. What are steps I should be taking while learning to support me in my career change? What are some basic projects I could do to test my beginning skills (HTML & CSS)?

pretty good video. Now, as a consume of this videos my advices would be to: - change the position (yours and of the camera. The angle, the FOV too) - dont look away so often (this is a side effect of the "position" - sorry for bad english - probably) - get better audio (it seems fine but..unremarkable? m not an expert in audio. but i think it could be better) - Get on with the speech skills (the "uh" and "uhms", the point and how to make it shorter or longer, the covalization and connotation of some phrases as well as spacing and silences) - lighting -

Giving you a big thumbs up for your opinion on Elon!

I have a daytime job, working 8 hours with 200usd salary monthly. I am learning and planning to freelance in the future, and also quit my job. Do you think that's a viable option considering I want to enjoy my work and earn more money?

Is your birthday July 17th, too?!

Is $55k ok for a remote junior dev job?

Where are you getting your animated wallpapers?

Happy belated birthday MAAAANNN!!!

Happy bday joshua, can u please tell me the song played at end

Jr. -> Uses GUI even for Git, uses Windows; Mid -> Uses the terminal, but only one command at the time - thinks Mac is the ultimate UX for developers; Senior -> Pipes and Arch.

hey josh has anyone ever told u you look like a younger William Fichtner? The guy from Prison Break!

I dont look to the market i ask for what i believe. Junior can make up to 70/hour

That a finnish flag on your wall? Happy birthday!

Hey Joshua , can you work for an american company while living in EU (European Union) ? ATM living in scandinavia .

He’s talking about the Indian salary frameworks

lol long hair

how do I get this live wallpapers??

happy burday!

Yes your content is better than those others that show how they brush teeth or something. But i just noticed what you are lacking. And that is Linux. :D

Pay rates re SO low in the USA. wow.

i love you 😁

one question off topic , how did you set up three monitors with windows ??????? i need to know please answer me .....

i wonder how much it takes to compile on this guy pc with all those active walllpapers

Is that the german rapper Spongebozz behind you on your dektop?

And this guy didn't do a single job ever properly.

TIL: me and everyone I work with at my last 2 gigs mispronounce Laravel.

Lol that Spongeboss picture. Do you hear german rap music?

45k for a junior developer with a degree?!?! What????

Sounds like you're a real work hound and a real salesperson. You should probably work for yourself and get rich. My girlfriend is a maybe a junior developer in what she calls the wamp stack, along with css, html, js. Freelancing, she pulled in 180k last year, without working more than 60 hrs per week (though she did outsource here and there). This was up in Boston. Point is, I imagine you'd make more than this, especially because it sounds to me you might be working more than an 80 hr week. My question is, why aren't you doing this already? (She just told me that the 180,000 is closer to 90,000 after paying for health insurance, social security, taxes, etc., Still, though.)