"I guess all dragons have to die in the end.. But i wanted to be...a good dragon." That line of dialogue is just oddly funny to me can everyone make meme edits of this line it's so funny.😂

@@noahbradford5342 22:19 ~RDK~RDF!~ 11:09 PM I'm watching the frame-by-frame and holes in the WOW, you guys are the real Proz for me. I'm not tossing those yoqyos again; you need 'em, I'll toss 'em. You hand it off to my friend Ser Jason, he'll knight me in the End for you guyz. He beat me at his own hand of cards; art so fast I couldn't even follow it with my I's. Nor my 0's nor my 1's. Rounded up just for fun. Cosmic flashing hands; Humanity said "Jaxx the Jazz again" and we followed Ali's coaching and roped a dope again. Trans people are needed, my friendz; you guys just forgot your left from your right again. Cheers for the UTuberz in Chatz, pleaze and thankz againz. I'll fight till next Monday for my new husbands if that's what it really, REALLY takes to avoid letting them break Uz againz. Memez az requezted againz. Amenz to my friendz.

11:16 PM She/Her(zt) Thank Good for that, a Good Malice again (whew) and here I thought I was only dodging Reality ;-) take all you like, friend Z. I've been full for a long, long time and I've learned to purr when you sneeze like a good boy again. Erase the pronouns, and the dominoes falls like the piratez again. Finding Nemo again.

~She/Herz Rose/River River/Rose For you guyz A Ro and a RO and a RU again.

@@noahbradford5342 5 snaps into 4 again. Math: the Human Addiction. Follow the Methheads and you'll dust your own Knuckleheads with Lead. Plasticity Unfertilizing for the Youth Again.

Bravo. All of the Colgate jokes are beyond stale at this point. Yours was very well-crafted.

I wonder if they make the CLICK sound when they wake up in the morning

@@Byakkoya11037 in FE heroes apparently they only get bed hair on one side of their head, like how only one of my joycons keep drifting ffs

​@@vergil_6707 bet they need to get that half of their skull replaced every year or so💀

​@@loooooooooby Not the first time I've seen it

Apparently they were never told what the game was going to be about, or just to not make some of them look outright ridiculous

Holy shit now I understand why I hate all their designs. Why the fuck the "serious" assasin that has no desire to stick out has her hair full of reflectant star-shaped purpurine

@@Tronerfull she is ex-streamer tho, thats why she uses quirky langue like 'hiya papaya' and 'zappy', on that note can i get a ZAPPY on the chat?

Do you have a source for this? Googling isn’t bringing anything up but maybe I’m just missing something

@@CobaltWarden Faerghast did a video before the game's release where he showed off the developer interviews

"he said it! he said the line!"

I couldn't believe it when Marth said "It's fire emblemin' time!" and fire emblemed all over the place

Awakening: The fire emblem is a shield. Fates: The fire emblem is a sword. 3H: The fire emblem is your blood. Engage: The fire emblem is you.

@@emperortgp2424 Truly the video game moment of all time

I liked when he activated the Fire Emblem and said "Fire Emblem...Engage!"

That is the best description of Jean I have ever heard

Yeah, I gotta say I was less than amused. After Three Houses really hit some decent points in writing - I mean it's a war game, but it had some musings on the cost of war, how it changes and hardens people, etc. - this game was beyond braindead. I mean Three Houses was not quite the revolutionary groundbreaking work it's sometimes praised as, but it's quite good at points and serviceable at worst. This occasionally approached "serviceable" from the wrong side. Especially with Permadeath a present and possible outcome for characters in one of the gameplay modes, going off to war isn't treated mechanically lightly - so why is it being treated so lightly by the story. This isn't Pokemon, the threat of literal permanent death is at least there.

Bro it's a videogame

@@Val_O7898 That's a terrible argument. Video game stories should not be judged differently just because they're attached to a game, there exist both games with great stories in their own right as well as books/movies that are terrible.

@@Val_O7898 That's exactly why we're complaining tho? Videogames are supposed to be enjoyable, in the case of RPGs they should have an enjoyable story, so of course nobody likes to see a kid go to war for no apparent reason since nonsensical stories aren't enjoyable.

What that's crazy 😭 whole ass anime episode

Wait that wasn't a joke?!

Bruh not even any of the dense-ass RPGs I've played recently went on that long💀💀💀

All that for a mid weeb trash story

theres a 26 minute cutscene in xenoblade chronicles 3 at the end of chapter 5

As someone who is currently playing FE4 I can say with absolute certainty that is how the game is played, fortunately I have friends who tell me I should at least use Quan as well.

they mentioned how they got into the other side though, they literally broke the door and came in

@@damianiscringe1082 he means that they enter the cathedral's main hall in a cutscene, have the main hall's door locked behind them, and then the map starts with them outside the main hall again with no explanation

And you forgot the stellar writing right after the doors close: - The doors! - We're trapped inside!! Thank you, I had gathered as much, game.

That chapter pissed me off on so many levels I had to stand up and walk around the house to clear my head. It already comes out right after a very, VERY stupid story segment where the king keeps waving death flags around the battlefield just begging to be killed, doesn't do jack to prevent the evil king from using the ring he's veeeeeeeery slooooooowwwwwly putting on despite knowing what they are and that they are in possession of those, while previously having refused the help from the army that is not only fighting against said enemy forces to much success but also employs the CHILD OF THE GOD THEY WORSHIP, it also portrays the absolute worst cutscene in the entire game! They enter the cathedral after the Emblems tell them they probably shouldn't, the door closes behind them and they're forced to fight. Standard trap. It pisses me off that the boss in this chapter can use Lyn's skill that allows him to basically one shot anyone in your army with low max HP (especially your flying units) without any prior warning, forcing you to go back in time to reposition your units in a way that he wastes that shot, but that's a whole other problem I have with the ability of turning back time. Back to cutscene. The camera panders to show the entire room you're in, which is massive! There are only a couple of people on your side and a couple in front of them, and suddenly, the CGI starts, and now... there's only the king and the fell dragon present? Where are my characters, they were standing EXACTLY where the king is standing right before he dies! And now that the CGI is over, it's everyone back to their positions and - oh hey, what's Hortencia doing here? Gasp, she shoved the kid laughing at her father's demise, instead of casting a spell or attacking her! And now she's gone forever from the cutscene, she'll never be shown again until the chapter you recruit her! And suddenly the Elite Four walk in, and EVERYBODY TURNS THEIR BACKS TO THE LAST BOSS FOR A WHOLE 10 MINUTES! Dragon kid, that wasn't present for the cutscene where they walked in, suddenly is, and after the CGI cutscene is done and we get back to the in-game cutscene, now it's the last boss that's gone! Sure, you hear his voice, but did he teleport away? Is he still there? And then another cutscene shows a different angle and the last boss shows up again! AN THEN WE'RE OUTSIDE!? Engage has the worst cutscenes in all of Fire Emblem! Character positions don't matter, characters fade in and out of existence according to what the writers feel like doing instead of crafting a story where characters organically move the plot forward, plot twists happen for the sake of having a plot twist, and the dialogue is just atrocious! Any cutscene on the Wii, GCN or even GBA games is a thousand times better than the best rendered cutscene in Engage! In the past games you could actually tell where everyone was, and when the rest of your army was not shown in the VN style, it was implied they were busy dealing with their own thing during or after battle. You could fill in the blanks yourself, but with Engage's obsession of showing everything angle because they're using a 3D engine, characters being or not being there when they should or shouldn't become much more of a problem! Juts look at FE10's cutscene before the final blow to the last boss: it chooses a camera angle that shows Ike and Micayah talking to each other, but only show a very small portion of the arena you're in, implying the rest of your forces are off-screen dealing with Ashera. It's CGI, so it can't account for who you chose to bring to the final battle or even who survived the battle, but it can be smart about how it presents itself BY NOT BEING 10 MINUTES LONG AND FADING CHARACTERS IN AND OUT OF EXISTENCE!!!

What a terrible take.

Hey give the king credit, he's the longest lived parent in the entire franchise dude survived FOUR missions, new record 😂

@@vollied4865 Greil lived for 7, Jeralt lived for 9. Eliwood actually lives the whole game. 4 might be a record low outside of the ones that die before the prologue.

​@@thereaIitsybitsyspider this just made me realize that Eliwood is probably the only Fire Emblem dad that was spared from the Fire Emblem dad curse.

@@vollied4865 Technically in Fates and Awakening...

@@leomassafm160 Chrom technically lives the whole game too

Clown vomit, the character

She's basically the most pampered little princess

Gonna be honest, I lowkey live her design. It's not good, but it's so over the top goofy that I feel happy everytime I see it

I thought she was supposed to be a clown not a princess. Especially since her voice was grating I thought she be annoying villain

@@Yoshixandir To be fair, when you're not the firstborn your obligations as princess become: try to find something else to give your life meaning. Clowning is clearly her passion.

But, don't you see, the problem with doing flashbacks is always that the stakes are lowered because you know whom lives or dies. Alear dying and coming back multiple times means you can have a flashback scene and actually have them die! Genius writing. Fixes all the flaws with the scenes so many writers get wrong.

Which ones have both? I am curious. Because I feel everyone has a different answer, including me.

​@@Danitron904The GBA games are solid in both regards

Path of radiance and radiant dawn@@Danitron904

@@Danitron904 Everyrone has a different answer because everyone's standards for what makes a story "good" are different.

@@Danitron904Genealogy is pretty good in both fronts. Thracia is good but has the Thracia fog that sucks ass. The Sacred Stones is pretty good if you don’t mind an easier game in terms of enemy quality.

Honestly there's plenty of room with random npc plots that are very under used in games. Imagine if a fun seemingly generic npc turned out to be a legendary hero in disguise the entire game or that generic npc having their own interesting story. Octopath traveler plays with stuff like this but nothing as likeable as Gatekeeper.

It only works if you manage to make them as charismatic as possible.

That plus something akin to the nemesis system would be godlike

@@TornaitSuperBird I mean just spend the same amount of budget on the VAs as Houses had and you pretty much already have that. Engage having a more mid cast and performances certainly didn’t help its writing

@@sebastianbronowicki7073 if you mean the shadow of war thing, I’m pretty sure the reason we haven’t seen that in other games is that they copyrighted the mechanic. If they ever release it, I feel the progression of AI tech in past years could make the concept even better

I'm genuinely astonished with how amazing Echoes' script is. Every FE game after Radiant Dawn has had such bland dialogue with maybe a few gems in the supports, but FE15 was a fucking gold mine of character interactions and voice acting.

God I love that exchange so much

Lukas is very cool

"A battle between god and mortal? Sounds exhilarating to me." If SoV had a CON stat Lukas's would be the highest to carry his massive balls of steel like holy shit

That's how everyone reacted to the first leak.

Idk man alfred and Diamond look like generic lords to me

What is Futaba doing in your profile pic ?

@@uneconqueambulante2094 screaming in COD lobby

@@Pablo_Martin_aa Diamant maybe, but not Alfred, and he's the exception, not the rule.

Fernand: “I’ll rip that traitorous tongue from your throat!” Lukas: “Then you’ll finally have the truth in your grasp!” Lukas was such a badass.

Fuck you’re absolutely right. It makes so much more sense now, I think I subconsciously connected that but hadn’t realized it.

Damn, the truth hurts.

RWBY- tier writing? No way I’m ever buying this game now 😨 at least if you’re talking about post-Monty RWBY

Shit, that's true I still like RWBY, not Engage tho

The rwby comparison was my first thought too, especially the "sudden 4 bad guys including hot lady, psycho, nice muscle man and the other one" and even the way some characters faces look and animate. But damn, rwby came with some charm at least

It truly is a great comedy. I had fun with it for sure

Alear's mom death: those are rookie numbers

The clanging metal pipes they try to pass off as music makes that moment extra special

The devs must be Eternal Sonata fans.

The whole cutscene i was just thinking "oh my god. Theyre actually trying to make me care. Why. These characters suck i dont like them. Why is it still going!"

@@leaffinite2001 fr, they at least gave Marni some semblance of a sympathetic element, but then Griss and Zeph just killed _her,_ pretty much cementing them as being cunts. THEN THIS BITCH GOES ON A RANT ABOUT WANTING TO BE A MOTHER?! _WHAT?!?!_

and then afterwards Zelkov somehow steals the time crystal and rings back lol.

@@DesensitizedMuffin yup, the level of ineptitude in this game's story is baffling.

"Somehow... Veyle stole the rings"

I think they genuinely just teleport into her hands, which really begs the question of why she never used that insane power afterwards

@@asolomoth1066She said she stole them while the hounds were introducing themselves.

Fire Emblem games DO NOT take place in Medieval times. Plus even if they did, its a myth that medeival people had bad oral hygiene. They didnt need toothbrushes as much because Sugar was rare in medieval europe.

​@@Guy-cb1oh Yeah they do

​@@Guy-cb1ohhoney still a thing, right? And it's not like sweet stuffs is the only bad thing for your teeth anyway.

@@Guy-cb1oh The people of the time ate a shitload of cereals, and not just in Medieval Europe. Egyptian mummies, and I'm talking the upper-class, had HORRIBLE dental hygiene on account of all of the grains they ate and beer they drank.

​@@Hell_O7there wasn't an industrial revolution level of production behind honey subsidies on an amount of land multiple times bigger than Europe the same way we have for corn

I like how despite everything, he’s genuinely one of the best Brodian units.

@@ltranc this game does that a lot. On repeat playthroughs like every unit I ignored shined more than the royalty I insist on using cause thats what FE has taught me is that Noble/Lords are usually always good :(

@@Swiss816 Diamant and Ivy are some of the best units in the game. The Fierene royalty are ass though.

​@@Lechgang Eh Céline is a star player for me but Diamant has fallen off for me personally, alfred is bad tho

@@commanderryu7554 Most people got an very strong Etie, but my Etie was very weak and slow sadly. And my Diamant was super busted, rest was average at best, Anna horrible but turns out she should not stay as an axe user with her magic potential. Alear was super bulky but could barely damage anything

Louis also stands out really well as a tank on his map. Etie can one shot fliers no matter the difficulty. Boucheron is your first Chain attacker and Chlóe is your first flier. Alfred is way more forgettable than these guys.

​@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast Alfred keeps showing up throughout all the story Cutscenes and has an interesting character twist.

​@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast You say that but Alfred is a constant in dialogue and story. I find him less forgettable. He's also one of Engage's better written characters. A plot twist that recontextualizes a lot of what he says and does, some very sweet/fun dynamics (my favorites are the crown royals being put off by how carefree Alfred is in a harsh world), and he arguably has *the* best dynamic with Alear. Alfred actually treats Alear like a person, a friend that Alfred saw comfort/strength in throughout a sickly childhood than "omg rare critter divine dragon god thing! how may I serve you? can I worship you?". Alfred and his sister treat Alear as a close friend to mutually vent to. Imo, the close friendship developed throughout supports feels extra earned too since you help their kingdom on the brink of collapse and save their mom.

The story is really bad 😭

And even then, they just had to go and slap her design in the face with those stars. I don't care about why she has them, they look stupid as hell

I hate that take, but i found 3H'S story to be really bad after i beat the 4 routes. They tried to tell a good complex tale but the mc fellatio, the 4 route structure and the shitty villains ruined it.

​@@guilhermecardoso2365it's a super satisfying framework with big ideas, but yeah, coming together in the end didn't bring the cohesion I was looking for (and I don't just mean a happy ending lol). On one hand I'd really like to see IS take on a multi-route structure like this again, on the other hand if that's the next title I think that would make the veteran fan vs 3H newbies divide even larger

I mean I think it's a dumb idea in general. Like to be clear I never liked FE7's story and I think a lot of the popular stories are really overblown (Radiant Dawn's story is one of the worst in the series and you can't convince me otherwise, only Shadow Dragon is worse). However they are enjoyable, they normally have depth, and they take the story series, which Engage really...doesn't. Still a better story then Shadow Dragon but that's a really low bar.

yes and this idea completly ommits tracia, gaiden (or echoes), path of radiance, genealogy of the holy war? Hello? are we just so used to shitty generic anime plots in FE that we assume it's at its core? Even FE1 had ambition in its story, FE8 an FE6/7 too, there are some interesting subplots, treasons, character drama can be taken seriously, shitty story and characters are not a norm in fire emblem. Heck even 3 houses was good in the end but was tarnished by its format.

It’s just lazy excuse this coming from someone who thinks fire emblem stories never been good. Closet we got was three houses so I was hoping they were finally going to tell a good story and we got this. That not only has lack luster story but characters.

I think it is a case of the art not translating well into a 3D model. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 suffered from this for a few artists. Because if you look at the 2D art of the characters they are clearly thought out well and the artist's passion or favorite telltale signs (i.e. Nomura with his signature designs for Torna) and then their 3D model it cna be jarring. Fortunately, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 fixed most of those issues.

@@coolyeh1017 I think i can agree with that with all 2D art of Alear they look very well done and thought out but i'd say in general Pikazo's art probably didn't translate well in 3D or at least the 3D art direction they were going for in Engage

At the least, you would think nintendo would let mika have a say in the environmental design. If the whole game popped (like fe x shinmegami tensei), the game would look alot better imo.

You know, there's a lot of really good character designs in this game. Diamant, Citrinne, Chloe, Louis, Jade. But the bad ones are reeeeeeeeeally bad. Alear and Hortensia come to mind. Yunaka would be good without the stupid star sprinkles in her hair.

@@renzallen8251 but Pikazo never made art for FEH hell even F!Alear is made by Amagaitaro. Pikazo is mostly know for her FGO art and the Vtuber rig she made for Baelz

Definitely engage story was boring predictable and un engaging. Same with the characters if I have to wait til the A support to care for these characters then they are written terribly. They need to catch my attention or give me a reason to care just them being “nice” doesn’t work since almost everyone in the cast is nice

Late reply but think back to Chrom’s mother from Awakening. We had like 7 chapters to get to know them. Lissa, Chrom, Emmeryn. And then we have this whole cutscene to see her die and how the characters react. They gave you ample time to know the characters. So you can feel it too

@@DylBro101 Emmeryn was their older sister, not their mother, but yeah. Same with Eliwood's father in Blazing Blade (my personal favorite FE from a story perspective). You get a lot of time to know the characters and what they mean to each other.

I couldn’t take it seriously after she took long dying my switch went to rest mode

Gave me flashbacks to Fates writing, and Corrin's mom (I dont even remember her name XD

I had the exact same experience. I saw absolutely every line of dialogue coming a mile away, but that death scene is what caused me to start making those predictions, just because I wanted to see how predictable it would really be.

(THIS IS NOT SERIOUS BTW. I recruited Ashe on EVERY playthrough I made of Three Houses)

Me with Lorenz

I used ashe n he was op for me, idk if it was luck or just him being goated tho

Valentia localization goes crazy with the sauce

I’m pretty certain the inheriting of skills from menu was a day 1 thing or at least before whatever update you’re referring to because I was definitely using it while not being able to inherit skills in the arena. In fact I still haven’t updated (I don’t have internet at my house and need to travel to update the game), so I can probably verify this.

@@anthonynguyen1289 Everything you just said can be summed up as “I have no knowledge about anything you’re saying, but I’m still going to act like I do.”

​@@anthonynguyen1289 it wasnt

@@AustinOnStandby I messed up my original comment I meant the equipping of skills while in inheriting skills menu existed which is in fact in the game prior to the arena update. I think my brain farted when I made my original comment. I can upload a video showing my game being on an older patch and being able to equip skills while in the inheritance menu. You never needed to close the inheritance menu and open your inventory menu to equip skills you can find people on reddit discussing that prior to the arena update and I’m on 1.2 and I can do this. I know I did it on 1.1 as well. I believe it was in the game in 1.0, but I don’t think I played on that for long

What mechanic are you talking about?

Unengaged?

Gotta be honest. Shadows of Valentia made me care at least somewhat for the gameplay. For as much as Shadows of Valentia has the best writing in the modern entries from a fundamental perspective, the gameplay is easily the worst of the modern entries.

​@@Mojo1356 Yeah, the gameplay of Echoes is dated as hell and wasn't as polished as it should've been.

i can enjoy a mediocre story, but engage's just actively takes away from the experience. it is actively bad, and that is honestly impressive in its own right.

I could never get into his character. He was one of the characters that really made me mash through dialogue...

@@RockR277 Even when he was standing around in the background of other characters, he always looked annoyed or bored (why am I here?). He's snide and rude but doesn't come off as annoying like Marni. He doesn't try to talk over your head like Zephia, nor is he a contemplative soul like Mauvier . Griss is who he is. I guess what I'm trying to express I feel we the players are like Griss when the story becomes campy and most of the characterss feel paper thin. "Let's get on with the story so I see what happens next so I can stay interested".

Griss it's a very simple guy, he likes pain, suffering and his mom, everything else is just to serve his 3 main motivations.

We know nothing about Griss other than he's a pain slut because orphan? I guess? Yeah, real great villain

Idk the masochist villain trope is extremely played out. It felt dumb and silly. Its right out of a cartoon.

I dislike enemy phase music in every game it appears in.

You can turn the enemy phase music off iirc

I dislike the idea of enemy phase music. It ruins the flow of the soundtrack. I much prefer the games in which the map theme plays all map, only transitioning to the more intense variant during battle, unless you engage a boss with a unique theme.

@@artificialaceattorney6822 I agree.

They don’t even let you turn it off for the main campaign- only grinding maps and tempest trials.

Physical sales for Engage are currently doing worse than Three Houses, although we won’t have the full picture until we get digital sales numbers as well.

@@Neoxon619 Thank god, praying for that to continue

@@internetguy7319 imagine wanting a game to sell less lmao

@@internetguy7319 the fact that you want the game to do badly is just sad lol

@@thebloatgaming553 I think he wants it to do badly, or at least worse than Three Houses, so that IS gets the picture that people prefer an FE game that focuses on story and characters

I already didn't like the morbin' meme, but the people that started attributing to things that *weren't even out* made it painful. I'd argue that most of the "cringe" is only due to people deliberately accentuating the negative because that's what influencers did preemptively.

Braindead comments from lames that dont have any sense of humor..

I wanted to like this so bad but it has 69 likes and I don't want to be the one to change it. Edit: it got to 71 before I finished the comment

@@jvts8916what do mean? He’s just talking about his favorite part of the game. Don’t you remember it? It was pretty lit.

Every time they say engage in the game I point at the screen and say “He said it!”

"Ignoring the terrible story (impossible)". Me when the skip button function was programmed into the game:

(Impossible) There literally is a skip button. Plus all fire emblems have terrible stories, not sure why you think this is the exception.

@@Melkac all fire emblems do not have terrible stories, and certainly not on this level. the only story the same level as this one is fates. i've seen plenty of mediocre stories in video games- i have never seen one that has such poor, juvenile, GRATING dialogue, combined with shamelessly contrived and uninspired "plot twists" that they foreshadow by having characters look directly into the camera and spell out exactly what's going to happen, combined with literal cardboard cutouts masquerading as characters, that still somehow takes itself so seriously it gives you 5 minute long death scenes for characters you don't even know. there were no moments in three houses where i literally just sat back and started laughing at a "serious" scene, but it happened plenty of times in engage. even more often than that i put the controller down to check my email.

​​@@Melkac lol. You're opinion is invalid if you think all fire emblem stories suck. You just cant read.

​@@heathersmith4042I agree Engage is all these things you say it is, but there are certainly other games/forms of media with similarly as bad writing 😂

They need to stay as far away as possible from the graphics though. We should not be getting N64-Ass pixelated clouds on a 2017 HD Game Console that gave us Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2 & 3, Smash Ultimate, and more which all look VASTLY better and run at a stable 60fps compared to 3H which can't even manage 30

​@@AkameGaKillfan777 They're still more competent than Game Freak. N64 Tree, anybody?

@@alexanderkosten7611 You can count the pixels in the clouds. The character models are good though

Hell no. Koei's story writing wasn't any good.

Koei wrote Azure Moon. (And the clusterfucks that are Crimson Flower and Verdant Wind, but still.) Intelligent Systems wrote Silver Snow and White Clouds; the reason your lord pick only matters gameplay-wise in the first half (and has no bearing on the story) is that the lords were supposed to be shafted originally, because Silver Snow is the canon ending. Koei's playtesters liked the lords and pushed for the fanfiction that American (for Edelgard) and Japanese (for Azure Moon) fans actually ended up liking through some fluke. Koei then responded to the American 3H base by releasing 3Hopes, which made the story and characters _worse_ by trying to fill in what Intelligent Systems didn't answer... with more questions. 3 Houses is a fluke.

Simple: "lets look at other media which are absolutely nothing like FE and copy them!"

Fundamentally it's a game about duality. Truly a masterpiece of meta commentary, bravo.

Came here by you're resetera thread. Thx

So the game is a cry for help?

@@kyperactive In the sense that the gameplay designers are desperately asking for a better story writers, yeah.

As always you have terrible opinions, congratulations lol

I truly, genuinely, cringed when I heard that line. I had to turn my volume all the way down that way I didn't get embarrassed bc my fiancee heard it 😭

@@evandrake6269Fire Emblem Engage haters when the emotionally stunted character acts emotionally stunted: 😮

@@NotGenoThey’re talking about how the dialogue itself is badly written, not about the character’s personality. You gotta admit, it’s a pretty stupid line.

@@quack-tastictictac1630 I do agree that the translation keeps using the wrong words. You don’t have to keep saying ally, just say friend

@@NotGeno It's not the translation, it's just a badly written story.

But but but the “discourse”! Me no likey when games have themes that people have debates about!

Micaiah wasn't butchered. If you played Radiant Dawn you'd known a lot of her personality WAS a saintly priestess type woman that can see the future. The plot screwed her over and put her under duress a lot, forcing her to make tough choices to protect her friends. Her entire character wasn't her war crimes, she had a lot of standard lord dialogue and moments. It's a major source of recruitment and gaining allies in RD. Micaiah was never "snarky". A single dialogue piece that didn't exist in the Japanese original script doesn't make her entire character.

​​@@nuibaba280 dude she was butchered. You try too hard to defend this.

​@@mihaimercenarul7467 Do you have any proof to say he was wrong. You literally Ignored his explanation.

​@@mihaimercenarul7467So no arguement,cool,good to know

@@axonymous_thevoice în order to have a counter argument, you need an argument first. I am waiting.

Hell the characters barely feel like they’re in actual danger from the war. We have time to party, go camping and do random stuff at the market. It never felt the war was even considered. I hate how it breaks the immersion of war like how the priest feels like we can party despite u know a war

Fernand not so much

Modern FE writers try not to reduce a character to one trait and run it to the ground challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

@@A_Person_64It's not like there isn't stuff to get out of characters in this game. At least from what I've heard, a lot of characters can be pretty deep. I just can't bother with it because they all just give such bad first impressions.

@@PumpkinFox I feel like you really hit the nail on the head with the struggle I had with this game. I wanted to like the characters, but by the time I got past their first impressions I just didn't want to bother. It really takes digging into their supports and by that point... why.

I haven't played the game but the characters look like something from a Arthurian Touhou clone not a war game

For me, I think most of the character designs when deployed in battles look perfectly design The somniel outifts... definitely not as big on

I mean 3h wasnt great either but at least it tried to introduce interesting ideas or plot elements. Engage has way less stupid stuff but thats cuz it never does anything.

Fire Emblem is a very fluid series, every game except the GBA ones are rather different from the rest. If you really liked Three Houses I recommend Path of Radiance or Awakening and do not touch Shadow Dragon.

@@nahte123456 Oh, thank you for the recommendation! I intended to go back to the older ones at some point, thank you for giving me some direction. Have a good one! :)

@@b.h.4249 Feel free to ignore me but if you want to elaborate a bit more on what you liked or value more I could give you a more precise recommendation. That was mostly that PoR and Awakening have solid stories and similar enough gameplay without being to much or little either way.

@@nahte123456 Oh, that's incredibly nice of you, thank you! I mostly value character-driven narratives that go in-depth with the characters and let them develop over the course of the story (especially when it concerns the MC). I also like it when the morality isn't completely black and white and it's acknowledged that in war no one can be absolutely good and really appreciate deeper world-building. No other strong preferences really come to mind right now, I'm not particularly choosy about gameplay, I've played 3H and Fates so far and found both fine. I can look past many issues if I'm invested enough as long as the issues aren't too egregious. Thank you again for the offer!

Oh, *now* everything makes sense… didn’t know that, thanks

I'm not sure why would they be inspired by Brazilian culture. Because Timerra looks like a dark-skinned Brazilian woman and she also looks prepared for a carnaval (or a circus lol)? Well, ok, I guess. Her brother looks more like a dude taken out of the royal Turkish period, Panette wears a stereotypical Día de Muertos attire, Fogado's retainers don't have anything on them that directly associates them with their country, and Merrin is just a furry. To top it off, the Solmian capital looks like a discount Constantinople. Nothing Brazilian about Solm or its people.

Also you missed the part where I said “She was not informed Solm was a desert country” because she only did the designs. She had no idea what Solm itself would be like, which is takes from all sorts of cultures including an isolated part of Solm being based on Japan which is where Kagetsu is from.

Man, Fogado coming home and just yelling "MOM, IM HERE" like he was just some nobody feels so Brazil, right next to when asked where they left Ike's ring, their answer was "dunno, maybe its in the drawer or something".

@@BlackfangDragon wow they did a fuckin terrible job then

@@Introversion399 Where? If it did I didn’t notice.

@@Hiya8partyz Nevermind, I am wrong. I Thought you meant the UI fix at 15:36. I need to get me some reading comprehension.

bandaid to a bigger problem

Yo I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this. I was half hoping it would be the case.

I was thinking the same shit

I'm still shocked they made the Zero Emblem the primary motivation of the main villain, but decided to not mention its existence until literal endgame and tell us basically nothing about it Why does it even exist?

@@OriginalGameteer It really is like they got to the end and said, "wait, we don't have a reason for the villain to do any of this. Quick, make something up."

It's not like that game handled branching paths though

@@AkameGaKillfan777 True, it didn’t handle that concept too well, but there was a sort of take on it. I was expecting this game to handle that idea but a lot better, since I enjoyed the paths in three houses - especially the split between saint snow and crimson flower.

I cant with the female bebsi Model. Not even just the silly hair, her face just looks so out of my tastes. I will take 3 houses or even the dated graphics of 3ds FE (at least they used beautiful 2d portraits anyway) over this ugly generic gacha model with giant eyes and a weird jaw any time. Like, Alear actually looks Good in the artist's official drawing of her, not my thing but good. In the model, it just looks so bland. And most of the characters i feel this way in engage. The art is pretty, im not against *some* exagerated designs, but seriously

It's a big bite frfr

Alligator Bites lmao

Out of all the properties I expected to do the "it's Morbin time/morbed all over those guys" meme unironically I didn't expect it to be Fire Emblem, yet here we are...

I completely agree with you when it comes to story having more importance than gameplay. The trailers were very obvious about the story being very thin, so I waited for reviews to come out and then decide if I'd buy the game. Seeing just how thin the story and characters are, I'm SO glad I didn't spend any money on this. I probably would've been more disappointed than with Fates.

I mean i dont play games where i dont like the gameplay. So thats why youd keep playing. I prefer good stories but if thats all i cared about id watch tv or read a book.

Eh I disagree with the story being more important than gameplay. Gameplay matters more to me because I spend my money so I can loose myself for an hour on the gameplay and having fun while doing so, and seeing on how all the mechanics come into play. If I wanted a actually good story with engaging characters I would rather watch a movie or a tv show tbh.

@@b.h.4249 Then that's your problem for your failure to make your own opinion. The characters are just fine, they rely on the support system like every other FE game and they're a better package than Fates.

Fates?

@@TheBakonBitz Bad.

@@nuibaba280 I’d even argue Corrin is more dragon-y than Alear. If Alear wasn’t called divine dragon every 5 seconds I’d be easy to forget he/she even is one.

​@@nuibaba280 So it's a fair comparison then 😂

@@TheBakonBitz It makes Corrin's lack of dragon moments far more glaring since they could transform yet it never comes up in the plot ever again. Corrin is a worse protagonist than Alear.

No... In terms of story, character design and development, your gut gave you good signals here.

Yet you wrote this like a true millenial. Interesting

still better off than Conquest and Rev.

Or had a miscarriage

Its the baby-fication of fe, if you added one line about friendship to the pre-last map cutscene it could come right out of a shitty 4kids dub

Actually, Engage is Conquest’s descendant, given its positives and negatives.

Yeah, I miss that. When characters other than the player insert and lover interest mattered in the plot, when characters dying had impact and weight and actual consequence, when....actually I kind of just want a Tellius Duology Remake.

...Did you actually play the Tellius games or...? Like how was Vik 'relavent' or Calill's moment to shine, Largo just get's ignored in RD because he was that unimportant, and so on. Also the political drama gets thrown out with Ashera and the sheer stupidity of the Blood Pact ruins most of the dramatic stakes even before that. ...Also LONG cutscenes of the Heron's singing is awful but that's minor. Also not sure what the issue with the Corrupted is, you kill plenty of normal people, mostly Elusian's, and old games never treated it any worse than Engage.

@@nahte123456 I played both games multiple times, have unlocked every line of dialogue, and read the japanese extended scripts and the drama cds. Just because you didn't find any value to these more minor characters in the overall story doesn't mean they did nothing whatsoever. Vika is important early on to foreshadow that Micaiah is a Branded and we see that due to her discomfort around Micaiah in their initial base convo. Calill literally gets a whole scene of dialogue in the bar in part 2 and if brought with the Hawk Army in Part 4, she gets more screentime with her adopted daughter Amy. Largo I can't even disagree with that man was done dirty but at least they didn't forget about his existence. Also just because Ashera is awakened doesn't mean there isn't politics at play still just because Oooga Booga Evil Goddess Lady is there. Micaiah and Sanaki still have to deal with Lekain. Just because you found the Blood Pact stupid doesn't mean it isn't involved in the worlds politics. Sephiran was the root of everything that happened in the story and manipulated events for centuries prior to the start of the games. Just because Ashera essentially paused the world doesn't mean we can't get more context and lore on why the events we have already witnessed happened the way that they did.

@@Gronnwolf First, dialogue isn't importance. Calill can talk all she wants that doesn't make it important. Likewise Largo can be "remembered" until the cows come home, still not important. Neither one affects the plot, neither has a character arc, neither ties into the themes, dialogue doesn't make them important. For Vika, not only are there several other Laguz that do the same thing but better for her and Soren, but so does Pellias when he talks about the Spirit Charmer thing. One of a dozen bits of foreshadowing from a character that does nothing else. Killing Lekain isn't political. He was killing people, they stopped him. That's like saying arresting a murderer is political. Blood Pact is factually stupid, not "I found it" to be. It's unexplained and doesn't follow the in-universe rules on magic to be engaged with nor figured out. Sephiran having a backstory isn't politics, the politics already happened. He already got what he wanted and now people murder their way to getting what they want. Nothing is decided by his backstory, his argument, his context, or his lore, once you reach him in the tower it's "kill you or die".

@@Gronnwolf lol, you're just biased to Tellius to the point of being blind if you're going to defend every irrelevant poorly handled character as "relevant and awesome" especially when you consumed every piece of content but won't even look through Engage's supports to give the characters a chance. You can't convince me with some lousy made up bullshit that Makalov, Dawn Brigade, Meg, etc were relevant and important to the plot. They're unpopular garbage and their performance in polls confirm my suspicions. Especially if Intsys themselves avoid these certain characters like the plague.

I also noped out when I saw the character designs, A gameplay can be the most fun ever but if it hurts my eyes there's no point in playing.

Yeah, I like Mika Pikazo's art but I don't think her art style does not suit Fire Emblem that well...

⁠@@aurelius-sparksthe problem is they never told her what these designed was gonna be used for. Mangs did a interview with her and she said they gave her no information on what she was designing for

Great gameplay & an awful story isn’t exactly a hot take for this game.

@@Neoxon619 I've seen too many people praising it like the second coming of Christ, citing how "deep" the characters are

​@@mooseyluke Thank you for this, I had deal with people constantly trying to defend the multiple flaws in Engage without understanding the game. While no fire emblem game is perfect, I love some of the older games due to the characters, story and world building that Engage sorely lacks

@@mooseyluke %100 with ppl online acting like this game is a godsent masterpiece, they've def got rose colored glasses on. You say one negative thing about it and all of a sudden its like youve committed a sin lol

The character's not meshing with the rest of the world is part of the course for FE. I was just watching the Cutscenes for Radiant Dawn, which is more muted in style compared to the rest of the series and even in that game the designs of the main characters are far more flashy than the random background characters who would inhabit most of the world. The only difference is Engage is less apologetic about standing out than Radiant Dawn is.

​@@Guy-cb1oh I don't believe you.

@@AkameGaKillfan777 Yeah, like... the Dawn Brigade? They don't have a uniform look, but except for a couple of returning characters from PoR they have muted designs. Definitely more FE4 than, say, FE13.

Thankfully they fixed that with a patch.

@@nuibaba280 no its just the inherit skill option in the arena. everything in the ring room is still seperated

Too be fair inherit skills is the only reason you want the two in the same place

@@emerylsg Who cares about the rest of the ring room stuff. The inherit skill thing was the biggest reason for any consistent visit.