thats the VA for you

Did you connect insomnia to your back bro?

any update on how it went? or are you still waiting to hear from the VA?

Hey guys I'm 100% P&T now got the rating early April everything that was stated is in my rating

Same here

Same same

I was thinking the same thing and I have also watched this video multiple times, along with VeteransInfoTap. There definitely seems to be confusion on how to best proceed with Insomnia claims.

​@smallsouthernlawn6909 Yes. Jason from Info Tap explains the criteria clearly, as did my DAV VSO (I know we can't rely on VSOs entirely for everything, but they are just down the hall from the VBA raters they interact with daily within my regional office and have provided me with more inside information for specific questions like this). Jordan and the VACA team have helped me with two successful claims so far, and have put out great content so I just wanted to ensure this video about the insomnia nexus letter needs to be updated since it would not pass muster under the updated criteria (FYI - my VSO officer also subscribes to this and other Vet channels like Combat Craig, Dwayne Kimball, Vet Night ops, Info Tap, CivDiv,, the evil VA Claims Insider, and others, which he admits has helped him assist other Vers, so it's a good platform for information exchange, even though it is self-evident these folks are running a business).

Government trying to save money

@@timmiller745 by taking from vets, the men that served their agendas, and giving to nations so that they get kickbacks.

Same

Not sure if the C&P diagnosed PTSD from an event in military service. If it were me, I'd file the claim on PTSD, with insomnia secondary. Include a copy of the insomnia C&P exam and the private doctor's report with the claim.

@@Christopher-lp7yy How would I obtain the C&P findings? Thank you for the advice.

I wouldn’t. Better off applying for an increase in PTSD if you feel like your mental rating is lower than it should be

I have the same question i submit in december 2023 but my intent to file started on Jan 2023. I got the c&p but im still waiting for other c&p exams. I want to know if they are going to use the old criteria?

What???? So they gave you 30% and then knocked you back down to 10%??

Wow

Similar happened to me. I was approved for insomnia secondary to tinnitus. The decision letter said that insomnia is a symptom of something I am already being paid for, so there would be no change in compensation.

Follow up… I was rated at 10% Insomnia secondary to tinnitus (10%) and no change in disability payment. VA math says: 10%+10%= 10%

@@ryanhill9707does insomnia get diagnosed with a regular doctor, or a mental health doctor?

I personally like to keep claims lean with minimal complexity. If it were me, I trim the conditions, But if it reflects your true story more, go for it

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Technically they’re supposed to give you the version that benefits the veteran the most if it changes during your open claim. Doesn’t always happen. If you have another mental condition to substitute, that’s a viable path or you could get a doctor’s opinion for primary insomnia

I'll try an HLR@@vaclaimsacademy

Damn I’m in the same boat guess we’ll see what happens .

No

You good

thank you@@RoroYaKnow

not sure I'd say you're "good" as you asked. Looking above there is another veteran who had an ITF in 2023 and claim submitted before these changes, yet they were denied. Everyone's case is different....

Mine is at 50%. I hope this change doesn’t cause them to review and try to reduce

Yes

I’m still active as well, I don’t believe you do for a BDD filing but for any other type of claims you might.

if you are still on active duty start going to medical with complaints about your insomnia so they are well documented in your active duty medical STR.

You won’t be grandfathered in, they reduced mine and I’ve had the claim for years

The CFR and M21 info is on the VA website. Since most VSOs and Vets have had to learn about what the VA is wanting to see , EXACT verbiage in the supporting documentation and DBQ, then this is what we have to do otherwise you deny the claim. Do you raters actually think a DR is going to put his license on the line for some vet? So what do you expect us to do? Do you speak up at the Va to your superiors and complain that you, when sending us to a stupid Nurse Practitioner (C&P exam). They have zero medical history with us as a patient and doesn’t have any actual knowledge or practicing experience in the claim topic. Most don’t even take the time to read the DBQ in depth. They then have the power to over ride an actual board certified DOCTOR when we submit a DBQ!?!? That’s the definition of stupid, frustrating, and actually unprofessional. This is a common thing at C&P exams; so what do you expect us to do out here? Also, there’s regulations/laws that state YOU have to use our Docs DBQ (fully qualified of course), yet how many of you throw them out and overlook them? It’s common knowledge most of you do. Are you a vet who’s had to deal with this process, personally, as a vet trying to get help?

@@user-ym9wb2mk5e I understand your frustration. Been there, done that!!! The VA system is 100% broken. Having to go to exams and saying key words like “prostrating” at a headache exam 15 times so the C&P examiner will check off prostrating headaches as opposed to non-prostrating headaches which you can all the exact same symptoms but one is a 50% rating while the other is a 0% rating. That’s just one example. Complaining to superiors at the VA will do nothing but just put the spotlight squarely on your back. Look at what has happened to past VA whistleblowers. I fully understand it’s a game of cat and mouse. There is a smart way to go about things and a not so smart way to go about things. Look at VACI and why they’ve been spotlighted lately. You want to stay under the radar. Showing nexus letter templates for one and all to see isn’t good for business when you don’t know who all may have eyeballs on your videos? You don’t think there are suck asses in the VA who won’t send videos like this up the chain to curry favor? All I’m saying is do better and read in between the lines on certain things.

Notes: Please explain this? DSM-5 revised the diagnostic terminology from “primary insomnia” to “insomnia disorder.” In both the current and prior versions of DSM, the diagnostic criteria includes ruling out all other potential causes. Accordingly, a valid diagnosis of insomnia disorder meeting DSM-5 criteria means that the insomnia condition is not caused by (or secondary to) any other condition. When evaluating insomnia disorder, rate analogously under an appropriate DC in 38 CFR 4.130.

@@Franklin-j2024 If you looked at the bullet points from the video, one of those bullet points listed “primary insomnia” so if you have that as a diagnosis then you are in a better position to be considered a standalone. Also consider there is an ICD 10 CM Diagnostic Code for Primary Insomnia which is F51.01. So you can be covered both ways.

@@TheATXpatriot I see I was diagnosed with primary insomnia in 2006 a year before I retired. Because I have a MH rating they did not give me insomnia. Is this still the case? Pyrimiding?

Hey Shippy! It can be either one. Lately it’s been rated more as a symptom

Sorry to barge into this convo, but you can’t get rated separately for both mental health conditions and also a rating for insomnia?@@vaclaimsacademy

You are correct.

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You assuming there healthy. You don't know what they been through. Worry about your own issues