I really appreciate Thor’s healthy and fair attitude to Disney Star Wars. He has a calm level-headed approach that makes me trust his opinion. I really dislike Disney Star Wars because of the sequel trilogy, but Thor’s videos give me a way to still be part of the Star Wars community in a kind of safe space. Thor isn’t a hater or a shill. So I feel like I get a fair assessment of the fandom.

Found Thor a couple months ago, and don't know why it took me so long.. Easily the most eloquent / well spoken and moderated Star Wars KZfaqr.

If the sequels were a good and faithful adaptation of EU stories the Disney trilogy lovers would of loved them anyways. No reason to compromise on quality just for the sake of more “content”

I personally may not be too hyped for Disney Star Wars but i appreciate that Thor still finds shows like Bad Batch entertaining. His passion for Star Wars gives me more hope, so i enjoy watching his videos.

I LOATHE both extreme sides of the fan base. There's no way in hell someone is going to talk to you how they do online in person. The constant judgment from both sides is exhausting.

Thank you thor, I am definitely one of these "toxic fans" you always hear about, but im not watching you because you're just telling me what i want to hear, which isn't always the case, but because you want to talk star wars. Its unfortunate that hardly even happens anymore. Nowadays, when someones talking about Star Wars, they're really talking about the franchise and all the controversies, including this video, its just not about Star Wars anymore

Hey Thor, I've said it before and I will say it again: There are takes and statements that you make that deeply frustrate me, but your integrity, intelligence, and thoughtfulness always keep me coming back to your next video. Please keep doing what you do. May the Force serve you well.

I believe the root problem with "Fans" of Star Wars,is wether they like to admit it or not,or are aware of it or not,they feel Star Wars belongs to them on some personal level. This schizm is very noteable when it comes to the Canon aspects of the lore. Some still hold dear to the EU,others the Legends,or Comics,then you have some like myself,whos more of a George Lucas purist in which i personally feel he has the best answer to the world he created regardless of selling the franchise. Which brings me to illustrate the second issue with Star Wars fans. Theres too much Canon implemented over decades to have a decent discussion with someone because different people stick to what canon best serves their view of Star Wars. Not to say there aren't groups of fans out there who enjoys everything Star Wars universally,but given the diverse age groups that make up the "fandom",its difficult to truly have a fun,respectful dialogue without offending their view of Canon.

Something that people need to realize - attacking someone for not liking something is never going to convince them it’s good. And it’s not just the fans that like what Disney has done with it that are sometimes guilty of this, it’s Disney itself. In fact, them and the access media are the worst offenders. They need to learn that attacking large swaths of the fandom is never going to end well. They’ll always lose that battle in the end. And yes, vice versa is true. If you do like Disney SW that’s cool too. If you’re not telling everyone else what they should or shouldn’t like, nobody should be harassing you for liking it.

Games and sports have rules, they're a part of the entertainment. Star Wars and other stories also have rules, it's called canon or lore. When the rules are broken or twisted people don't like that because generally all people believe in fair play or playing by the rules. I think this is why people have issues with Disney Star Wars because they feel like the rules have been broken.

I love a perfect Canon and Legends mix (yes it’s somewhat possible)

I think very large part in this kind of aggression is the Internet. Everyone allows themselves to be very aggressive online.

I love the Anti-Cheese edits of the PT and have been revisiting those lately while also listening to the audio on some good headphones . I hated the PT when it came out but I was 19 and a much different person but say what you will these films were epic and the last truly real SW I feel we will ever get as a theatrical event. The entire PT world is so well crafted things always moving in the background the soundtrack building dread subtly thorugout AOTC to the droideka fight in the beginning of TPM with all those sounds its just so rich. Sure some of the dialogue is bad but it is tight nothing is ever taking away from the main narrative of the information is always being added to further the plot. From just great chase scenes to memorable characters like Dooku SW was crafted to perfection with GL with the help of many innovative professional creators inside of LF and out. The best of the best for sure you can tell. I mean the ship landing on Coruscant in AOTC in the beginning is still phenomenal to look at. Disney SW has lost that magic for me because it has no direction, no stakes. In the PT even Kamino felt menacing but in the ST everything feels memba berries nothing really is dangerous and that is multiplied to 1000 in the Disney + SW shows. S1 and S2 of Mando was great SW and I watch those on DVD now and get that SW feeling still but anything just feels like people inserting themselves into the story to serve their needs not the overall story. It's weird. Filoni is also a damn goober.

Hate the movies all you want, but the REAL worst thing Disney did to this fanbase is stir up toxicity.

It’s always a pleasure to talk Star Wars with you guys! 😊

Saw the thumbnail: "We're all fans of the same thing." NO WE ARE NOT! There are roughly 5 SW eras: Old Republic, Prequel/Clone Wars, Classic Trilogy, Expanded Universe (Legends), and Disney SW. Of those, most fans are likely strong fans of two of those, while still reasonably accepting all of the first 4. It's the 5th, DSW, that was and continues to be a glaring problem. It is the source of most all of the fandom conflict, not the other four.

I agree with that thing about “coming back for YOUR opinion.” I often disagree with your opinion, but I enjoy the way you’re open-minded and up for discussion. I’m willing to hear you out because you’re also willing to hear ME out, and I like your nuanced perspective. I like that you bring up the views and points your viewers make in videos, so we can see them and you point out what you agree and disagree with.

Funny that this is the first thing I click after just rage quitting a podcast I was listening to. The people speaking seemed reasonably smart, they can make coherent responses to somewhat complex topics. But they started talking about diversity in games, and while I disagreed with them I could tell that they weren't malicious. So I wrote out a long comment laying out my opinion, the factual things about gaming that have been obviously impacted by political activists taking over the diversity discussion. The direct parallel between how comics have slowly died to what may be the future of gaming. The summary being, just stop selling out your brand to the people who don't actually buy your product. Then they shifted to star wars and I still expected to disagree but I genuinely couldn't continue watching. They wanted to discuss the acolyte, and while they obviously were more supportive of Disney I hoped they might have a nuanced take. Instead they decided that the only reason the acolyte is not getting much love is just that people hate women and POCs. Disney has just successfully psy-oped even seemingly reasonably smart people into thinking that the only criticism of their product are sexist and racist. It couldn't possibly be simple lost good-will from consumers. It couldn't be the worrying comments by people working on the show, the background of the showrunner, the potential issues it may create in the lore of star wars, isn't the heavy connection to an era of the universe barely anyone knows or cares about. The only reason the acolyte does not have a positive like-dislike ratio is the evil sexists and racists. I just can't do this anymore man...

Hey Thor, bit of a different question than usual, but as you might know, George Lucas originally wanted the famous Japanese actor Toshiro Mifune to play Obi-Wan in a New Hope. Suppose that Mifune had said yes, who do you think should have taken Ewan Macgregor's place as young Obi-Wan in the prequels? Keep in mind they would have to be about the same age as Ewan and of East-Asian (ideally Japanese) descent. I just think it's a fun what-if

I have my own head canon, and I'm fine with it😊

We're the freaking clients. We have rights.

Hey Thor. I agree with you. while I think people get so passionate about there SW opinions because they care, I also think being frustrated wont change things and I would be happier if I stopped finding reasons to be mad. There is no emotion, there is peace. Speaking of opinions, I don’t know if I asked, but with all the different opinions on what the truth around the Jedi is, where do you believe the Jedi games stand? They seem to ignore big themes or debates to depict a journey of healing. I really like that it isn't bending or reframing the lore to change our opinion, as many projects seem to do. I realized my view on the jedi may not matter that much and I can love the Jedi games for what they are. Cal going thru all that, and feeling what he feels, is likely relatable to the young men that need to see his struggle, fall, and redemption. It's mostly about Cal’s journey, decisions, dreams, connections, and growth above all else. And it's touching bcoz what makes him unique (or relatable) is what makes his journey to healing feel like we are walking with him. And I could gush for hours about how layered and meaningful it is. Do you think Jedi games prove the Jedi right, wrong, or does it have its own priorities?

OK so something I want to talk about with the analogy discussed at1:37 - 2:01. My main issue with the "criticism" I see with certain Star Wars properties, it's how it's done. Sure, everyone has a right to criticize the media they consume, however, if you truly want it to improve you have to do it properly. Going back to the parenting analogy; say your child keeps leaving junk around the house and you keep having to worry about cleaning it up. Do you yell at them to do better or do you sit them down give them reasons why they should pick up after themselves? To use a broader example, when they ask you why they should do something do you just hit them with "because I said so" or do you explain to them why they should care about what you're trying to teach them and have a mature discussion. This is my problem with the way certain fans handle criticism. One of the most annoying things I see is on the internet when it comes to the state of the franchise is people saying, "just make good Star Wars." Like, can we be a little more specific!? Not only is there contention on what "good" or "true" Star Wars is, saying just do something without giving any examples on how to do that doesn't help people improve. Also, to be a little blunt, that's my take on almost any issue in most situations, if you're bringing up an issue but don't give either a plan or at least a suggestion on how to solve it, then it just comes across as complaining for the sake of complaining.

Hey Thor. I was wondering do you Think Leslie Headland is a qualified candidate to take on a massive franchise like Star Wars? Based on her body of work,she has done some independent projects that were hit or miss but nothing on the level of arguably the biggest IP in the history of the world. I'd love to get your thoughts on this...

Stuff like this is why you're one of my favorite KZfaqrs, Thor. 😊

I like having a good spread of Star Wars youtube content. Currently my "must watch" list of creators are always you (both channels), Star Wars Meg, Star Wars Explained, Generation Tech, ScreenCrush, and Geetsly's. Each of you have your own takes and often do make sense, even if you are not all on the same page. Some of you add more (like lore), but all of you whose notifications I see, will always get a watch and a like. And this, I appreciate. Keep up the good work. Maybe it is because you are closer in age to me (I am 1970 born), but I find that we are usually of the same mind on a lot of things Star Wars.

It's one thing to enjoy whatever Star Wars you like, but when you express what you don't like and then you get label as "Toxic" even though you did nothing wrong, then those are the types of fan's who have no standards.

Personally, i see the defenders abusing the other side FAR MORE than i see the critics abusing the defenders. This is because people have a natural instinct to defned what they like and jusity thier choice. They see criticism as a personal attack.

Hey Thor, what are your thoughts on CGI Leia in The Rise of Skywalker? I always found it strange that people said that they needed a proper send off to Carrie Fisher and her character by awkwardly inserting her into the movie, just to kill her off anyway (in pretty unceremonious fashion at that). Wouldn’t it be better to honor the character by giving them a fitting conclusion to the story, even if the actress was recast? Leia was a character that deserved to be Chancellor by the end of the story. Instead, she is given a hollow death and an inclusive arc that leaves the future of the Republic in question.

The only thing I’m really looking forward to right now are bad batch season three andor season two and the third Jedi game after that I don’t really know at this point. At this point, I’ll just stick to the stuff that I like, and keep it in my own head canon where the sequels don’t exist. The things I keep in my head cannon , are the prequels the clone wars, bad batch, rebels, andor, Jedi, fallen order Jedi Survivor rogue one and The original trilogy, and the first two seasons of Mando. I think solo and ahsoka or just OK but at the same time I think there are some moments in both of them that I think are very atrocious…

I love that people can like and dislike certain SW shows/films but i just dislike when people give hate to one another. I like when we can all like our own things. Not every show/film is perfect, and youre correct not everyone is going to enjoy them but honestly if you dont show hate to others for liking something its toxic which i feel is what youve stated Edit: also i appreciate that even if i sometimes don't agree with you youre completely candid and I enjoy that. I also over explain my thoughts like you stated youve done and it helps me understand because you dont say the same thing over and over but its the same thing but said in a different way so that everyone can understand the thought process. I may not agree with everything and i think thats fine but i like your thoughts/analysis

I don't watch stuff because it "agrees" with me. I watch stuff to learn and/or enjoy. Thor's great at driving discussion and presenting well-reasoned and intellectually honest content in his videos. I may not give a crap about Disney Star Wars, but I'm also not someone that thinks new content ruins old content. Disney can pump out a million Rise of Skywalkers, and it'll never take away the Lucasinian Six. And I'm grateful for Thor's content because it's thought provoking and substantial. I mean, just the fact that he knows that the "Light Side" is the "balanced" side and really is "The Force" and that the Dark Side is just all bad, that alone let's me realize that I'm not being gaslit by the universe. It's just that most people don't actually understand Star Wars. And that's insane. But hey, at least this guy gets it.

Hey Thor, I really want to talk to you about my favorite SW character… Han Solo. As a character from the legends novels, I feel his stories had some of the most potential. The Han Solo book trilogy written by A.C. Crispin were full of adventure, heroism, betrayal, humor, romance, fear, heartbreak, and courage. I read these books as a kid and I can honestly say they helped develop my character as a boy growing up. I just want to get your take on Han Solo overall as character and ask your thoughts on how you feel Disney has portrayed this beloved character. Do you feel they got some stuff right in the Han Solo movie? Or missed the mark? Do you think the Disney character of Han Solo in Force Awakens is better than the Legends Han in the novels? How could they have done better? As always thanks for always demonstrating a level head and honest approach to your channel!

I appreciate your honest take on Star Wars and the different productions they give us. I also feel we usually feel the same about different shows and things in general.

Hey Thor, I would like to point out that stories are important to humanity and have always brought people together as well as caused conflict. Long before the written word they were told from generation to generation to share history and lessons learned so they wouldn't be repeated by their decedents. In fact the first book of short stories ever printed by the printing press has been a source of war and conflict as well as inspiration and guidance two thousand years after the main character who inspired the book died. This book of short stories was so divisive to its fan base that it created religions, divided nations and allowed a empire in claps hold onto power long after its borders shrunk down to the border of its original city state. The fans of this book of all books will read the parts they identify with over and over again while ignoring the parts they don't identify with. The issue with these stories that are so meaningful to us that they become part of our identity is we take it as a personal attack anything that may alter or call into question that part of your identity.

They can pry the EU from my cold dead hands. As far as I'm concerned, the only things past Episode VI is the Thrawn Trilogy, the X-Wing series, the Young Jedi series, and Mara Jade Skywalker. Luke faced not only Sidious multiple times but made it clear he should STAY dead and faced off with an evil version of himself learning to accept the Force in Balance to become the Wisest Jedi Master of his Era. He walked the path of the Light and always commited to helping others no matter what. Be like EU Luke Skywalker, kind and patient but never backing down from upholding what is right. And help your friends when they're in trouble.

Your even-handed approach is why I keep coming back to your channel.

Hey Thor, do you think you'll play KOTOR 2 any time soon?

My issue with current Star Wars is mainly how they’ve treated legacy characters. Outside of possibly Chewie, they’ve destroyed almost every major legacy character.

Yes, your integrity and your honesty is one of the best things about you. You are not like the chills or like the ultra haters.

There's something about SW that's in our DNA. Mythology, technology, morphology ... there's so much about SW that's just fun. I personally love that the SW fanbase is extreme in terms of likes and demands. That extremism forces us all to articulate what we feel is good and worthwhile. And I love that SW is still chugging along, both in terms of glossy corporate "product" (which admittedly is sometimes really good but rarely great) but also in fan made films and fan chatter. And Thor, you handle this ... balance ... extremely well.

It is important to be grounded in something outside of fiction so that all this doesn't matter so much. It stays an escape not a hill to die on.

I've been listening to you for the vast majority of your channel's existence at this point and you've never fallen for just churning out easy rage bait. You consume all of the Star Wars content, and give us your honest and fair take on what you thought about it. You're clearly not particularly excited or impressed by a lot of the crap they've put out and look like they're going to continue putting out, but you can discuss it without descending into jaded mockery... I'm jealous!

Hey Thor, since this video is about liking certain Star Wars content more than others, what parts of it would you include in your personal headcanon timeline, whether it be from either legends or canon?

Star Wars fans no matter Pro Disney Star Wars or EU/Legends should consider buying Star Wars Legion a miniatures table top war game. It has something for everyone.

If only Lucasfilm had this outlook. You don't get enough credit, Thor

You’re the best Star Wars channel because you’re not a straight up hater or a shill. It’s nice to have someone who doesn’t have brain rot regarding Star Wars.

Normally I try (really hard) not to get involved in the comments (and I often fail). The reason why is because I have grown to severally dislike the Fandom I had grown up with and used to love. In truth, the toxicity has grown out of control. What I have experienced is simply too much for me to ignore or condone. And I do blame the fandom for it. We live/work in central Florida, so going to the Theme parks is a common thing for me and my family. The tipping point was on one such outing. At Disney’s Hollywood Studios, we were cutting across Galaxy’s Edge. At the Ray Meet&Greet, a little girl dressed as Ray was meeting Ray herself. Seen this play out a hundred times. So for us, it wasn’t that big of a deal. What was the big deal was the two absolute A holes walking between us and the Meet&Greet. One screamed, “you’re (explicit word) Mary Sue!” While the other added, “you suck!” This cause our party to stop and observe the scene. The little girl was clearly distraught at the scene that just unfolded. One had to wonder if she even understood what was unfolding around her. Her parents definitely did, and so did the cast members. Without missing a single beat, the Cast Member portraying Ray took the girl by the hand and rallied the family. And walked her across the promenade, where guest recovery was carried out. While I don’t know what happened to the two A Holes, I would like to think that they were promptly removed from the park for good reason. The debate over what is Good Star Wars has grown so far out of control that some (not all) thinks it’s perfectly acceptable to ruin what others love. It’s ridiculous! I would listen to some fans (on Thor’s Discord, here on KZfaq, or Facebook) about how they dislike this or that. While most don’t even realizing Star Wars was NEVER perfect! It was ALWAYS Political (Lucas used to always link his creation to political messages), and it always had flaws! And don’t even get me started on continuity within the EU! I have been a fan of Star Wars since I watched Empire Strikes Back in theaters! Read the books, comics, had the toys and so on. I don’t like all of what Disney has done with Star Wars, but there are things I really do like about it. The way I see it, it’s like a buffet. I can take what I enjoy and leave what I don’t. To place the Pre-Disney Era on a pedestal is dishonest. To crap on something somebody else loves and enjoys is disrespectful. No one says you have to love it, or even like it. The simple truth is, Disney owns Star Wars and it’s their franchise to do as they wish. I can’t stand the toxicity, the endless crying about what we dislike and complaining about the choices being made by Disney & Lucas. So I decided to walk away from the forums and Discords that were ripe with this Toxicity. I only ask you, think about the words and choices you make. Do you have a right to hurt someone else’s feelings because you don’t like something?

Hey Thor, do you think the Star Wars fandom will ever escape being labeled toxic?, I’ve said this many times before but I’m just tired of fans who’ve genuinely done nothing wrong getting labeled as toxic…

Hey Thor, I've noticed Disney seems to be making this push towards turning star wars and force users into this physical martial arts style or discipline. They do it in Ahsoka with Ezra not using a lightsaber and just dodging and pushing opponents. They do it in the acolyte trailer with this karate martial art hand to hand combat, and they do it in the episode of the bad batch with the gang fighting Ventress. What do you think they are pushing or stressing that for?

Exactly! I pointed out to the… You must love everything that is canon … people that meant at one point you had to love the holiday special and can not like any of it because it has been taken away. That one point you had to love the Ewok movies but now you can’t. You must love everything you have to love the cartoons and the TV shows on Disney+, even Andor. Basically, some people are going to like some things, and some people are going to like others. So I’m not going to let a statement from George Lucas that says the force unleashed games are canon to tell me I have to love them.

Hey Thor, how do you feel about Padmé’s death? ‘For reasons we can’t explain we are loosing her’ & her supposedly loosing the will to love always felt a bit cheap to me.

What I like about this channel so much and makes it stand out from the rest is how Thor is always a realist. He always speaks his mind and isn't having to "walk around eggshellss" or always hyping up everything Star Wars the reality is that as much as he and all of us LOVE this franchise it's not in the best of places right now and only by speaking out and criticizing or calling out the bad things can we really find a common ground and as he says pretty much to a tea I think it's just all of us fans wanting this franchise to succeed despite Disney dropping the ball almost every time. He's a great example of logic, facts, level-headedness and tolerance. Above all the fandom is in a rough place and there's not much else that can be done about it unfortunately.

I think in general, most people let people like what they like. Yes, there are people on the fringe who are aggressive towards the other. Here's the thing, it is a product at this point and if a person does not enjoy the product why would they purchase it. By the same token, if someone enjoys a product they should be allowed to purchase it (with some exceptions).

i have been getting that over Ghostbusters Frozen Empire and The Marvels. i get beat down so much to the point i cry and just keep it to myself and ignore the mean comments

I want to enjoy your episode 3 of the Obi Wan Kenobi series.. Thor!!! Still waiting lol

Hey Thor.... Another quick question. A bit off topic, but still... Do you think that Ventress being alive and well gives Disney a "Strong Female Character" (that male fans happen to love), that can finally shut up some of the reverse-misogyny that Disney seems to enjoy?

Well, if every version of Star Wars is valid, then my fanfic about Darth Vader marrying an Ewok princess and then riding away into the sunset on a fiery dragon shooting AK-47 into the sky is also perfectly valid.

Hey Thor, how do you think Maul Poops?

I'm reminded of a scene from Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, where Captain Pike has to mediate between two warring factions on a planet that's currently in the middle of political fighting much like our real life Earth. One line from his speech always stuck out to me. "You'll use competing ideas of freedom to bomb each other to rubble..." Now obviously the stakes for the Star Wars fandom are no where near as high, but the point is the same. We all want the same thing -- Star Wars. And I'm guilty of getting overly sensitive to people's takes on Star Wars too. And it really hasn't accomplished anything. There are places to have conversations about Star Wars but the KZfaq comment section definitely ain't where you'll find people who want their ideas challenged. Especially when you never know who's a bad actor for either side or who only cares about making a political statement. I defend Disney because I believe creators have the right to create the stories they want to with the characters they want to, but there is no denying that a lot of their Star Wars is disappointing, and my primary enjoyment comes from Legends.

What I REALLY appreciate about this channel is the diversity of opinions here in the comments. The way Thor addresses all viewpoints and invites his viewers to challenge his POV is, imo, quite rare in this space. 🙏

Keep up the good work Thor! Your channel is one of my favorite places to go to for Star Wars and I always appreciate you staying true to how you feel about it. I love Star Wars still although the prequel era is and will always be my favorite.

Never change Thor. You are my favorite Star Wars channel. Wouldn't mind a face reveal though.

You are younger than I am. You saw star wars, first at a different age. Yet I think we feel the same about it. Now I believe ,what it comes down to is when you first saw star wars...and how old you are. 1977 in the theater...6,8,10 years old...16, 18, 25..seeing it 5,6 times. Later on video tape..6,8,10 years old..seeing it over and over again. This made a deep impression... Years later episode 1...young kids loved it. But the kids from the original three are in there 20s. Just my thoughts on why people disagree. On video tape ...6,8,10

Nah... what makes a property unique is what it is defined by... if it can be anything, it ceases to have an identity and is just a bunch of random shit. Call it gatekeeping but hey...whatever it takes to preserve the integrity of what makes something special, so be it.

I wonder if, back in the day, that fans of the Iliad got mad over the Odyssey when it came out, and then again when the Aeneid came out. It's funny to imagine high-class ancient citizens arguing over new releases to their franchise like we do today.

I don’t believe Star Wars is anything truly special now, but I believe that it was and it can be. That’s why I’m here. I think you more or less agree and you’re always open and honest.

Pictures leaked years ago about the people who made Disney Star Wars have posters of Luke Skywalker with a big red X on his face. These people hate the Star Wars that was loved by and united millions of people of every nation and race in fandom. I can see the hatred these people have for everything we enjoyed about Star Wars in every new project they make. Look at the latest horror the Acoylte they say it's not about good or evil which is what Star Wars was about... And it is not even about anything else space or adventure related the main theme of the series as stated by the creators is lesbians in space... That is not what I or any "non Disney" Star Wars fan I know want from a Star Wars project and honestly while some of us including me will still enjoy the original 6 movies and other select content, we will not support Disney Star Wars ever again they blew their final chances with Kenobi and Mando season 3 disasters!

I am a massive George Lucas Star Wars fan. I so badly wanted Star Wars to shine when Disney bought it. I don’t even bother watching all the D+ content. Not that I never have. I enjoyed Andor, the beginning of the Mando show, but have seen the lack of quality just plummeting. I watch channels like yours to get an idea of what’s coming out and to hear some other fans opinions. Many of times I have been called racist or sexist for stating things like keep “the message” out of Star Wars. And not every main character has to be a poorly written female marry sue. I love Star Wars. And Star Wars for me ended a while ago. Would love to see it return someday.

Yeah i totally agree with the title. I get so tired of people just non stop hating on anything Star Wars that Disney puts out. What is even the point? I totally hate the sequel films but at the same time, I like the clone wars season 7, I like 85% of rebels, I love Andor, I like the bad batch. I like mandalorian and Ashoka and the parts of Kenobi Reva isn’t in. Life’s too short to just say oh well I’m never watching anything they make or I’m never going to drink that beer again. I’m happy to listen to hours of videos dunking on Disney Star Wars cause it does suck but I also have to admit that some of it, is actually good or really good

I have learned a lot from you Thor, even though I often disagree. I am here for whatever point of view you choose to analyse, or present as the best possible view (if only in your own world, however it may impact other's). This is the Jedi way.

Let people like what they want, but don’t get upset if people poke holes. That’s been my problem. People praised last jedi, but as soon as the faults were pointed out, people got upset

Thor I like your content but I’m gonna be honest with you. Fence-riding is the only reason Disney feels enabled to keep pumping out the same low quality content. How can anyone expect Disney to do better when no one holds them accountable? What exact incentive does Disney have to do better when a good chunk of fans always says “dang I didn’t like this project, whelp I guess the next one will be good for sure this time! We did it with BOBF, we did it with Kenobi, we did with it Mando season 3, all low quality / sub par, yet now some are about to do it again with Acolyte. This isn’t gonna stop anyone soon. Disney will keep releasing the same crap because they know 30 percent of fans will always enjoy it defend it regardless

Hey Thor... Where do you think the line for toxicity is drawn? I mean, there are several SW Tubers who say they try to show both positive and negative aspects of SW, but when you watch and subscribe, you see that they do a video saying how great something is (an episode for example), but then they'll do 10 videos on how bad something is. Or Vice Versa for the overly positive ones. I whole-heartedly agree that as fan, we all should be allowed to speak our minds, one way or the other, and we should be free to enjoy or not enjoy any particular facet of SW, but there should be more balance. We, as humans, tend to speak out more about the negative things in life, but once the horse is dead, should we keep beating it?

The way I see it is like this. We all as Star Wars fans can on agree on some level on general things such as wanted the franchise to be put in the hands of people who are capable of pushing the franchise forward in a positive trajectory and in the hands of people who care about the product beyond personal values. However, it's also important to acknowledge that Star Wars is an international, multi generational sensation with fans all across the world. So while we may share some similar viewpoints from time to time, we're bound to not carry the same values in regards to some things regarding the franchise whether that be: favorite characters, movies, shows, story lines, etc. As for the state of the franchise itself and whether it's dead or alive? That honestly depends on who you ask. Me personally, I found my new favorite Star Wars content in the form of the Star Wars Visions anthology series. Given that Star Wars is a Western product typically aimed at a Western demographic, it's easy to only look at it from that biased Western outlook. Star Wars Visions bridges taht gap by allowing talented studios and fans across the world to tell their own Star Wars stories with many of them being so refreshing and different from the typical and safe mold that we are accustomed to nowadays. Its also perhaps the most natural presentation of diversity to come out of Star Wars in the KK era. Would like to see you cover it more.

I think it’s simple. Like what you like, advocate why you like things (or not) to others as they will hear you, but don’t tell them they “should” feel a certain way. Fundamentally anyone can think any parts of Star Wars are good or bad, and that they’re good or bad Star Wars. I’d draw one exception to that, and that’s to say I’m not sure you can really say A New Hope is bad Star Wars, sure, you can think it’s bad, but that’s different and as the first film it’s the model of good Star Wars imo. But beyond that one point think and feel as you wish and express it however passionately you want. I’ll talk for literal hours about why I think TLJ and TROS are awful Star Wars films but I don’t hate or abuse anyone who loves them or even likes them and thinks they’re good (I just think that person’s a bit odd 😉)

I like the OT, parts of the PT, TCW, Rebels to a degree, Rogue 1 and i even have a nostalgic liking for the Droids cartoon from the 80s and the 2 Ewok films. The Mandalorian was okay and i haven’t watched anything else. I saw TFA and TLJ and that was enough for me. If others like what i don’t why’s that any of my business? We’re all individuals. We all have different tastes and what clicks with one might not click with another and that’s perfectly okay. The world won’t end. No fan is better than another fan for liking and/or disliking something within the SW universe. The arrogance if one thinks they are is pathetic. Like what YOU like and if others have a hissy fit over it then that’s their problem, not yours.

So long as Disney are the ones making the majority of Star Wars content, you can only expect mediocrity and extremely on the nose "Progressive" political themes that take precedent over established lore, and just telling a good story in general. Peter Jackson and the folks who made the original Lord of the Rings films were mostly Liberals, and yet, amazingly... those films can be watched and enjoyed by most everyone on the planet. The ability to tell a good story (and respect any prior works it may be based off of) has seemingly been lost by the entertainment industry now days. It's almost like it's physically painful for them to do otherwise.

I’ve been listening to this channel for years, and I really appreciate Thor’s dedication to integrity and being upfront and honest. It’s easy to bend and shift with what’s popular. I feel like I can disagree with Thor and he’ll still give me the time of day.

There's being an honest fan who can say what he likes and dislikes, then there's slaves who worship Disney and desperately try to win arguments with the most stupid of logics. I'm not saying everything Disney did is bad. But a vast majority is. Add Acolyte into the mix of absolute garbage with all the reasons why we do not like it and those reasons will never be considered by the hypnotized Morlocks.

It is a pleasure to see and listen your vídeos.

I can deal with just about any kind of Star Wars story, so long as they are good and make sense when placed in the timeline of what we already know. I don't think that's asking too much.

... and just like that, your video provides better PR than Disney's LucasFilm's official PR representatives and employees.

I am very pessimistic about the future of SW although not all of Disney is bad. Just most of it. I want another opinion of SW in case. I enjoy having my opinion validated but also don’t want to be in an echo chamber all the time. Different opinions are cool.

Oh, we know what is about to happen to the Bad Batch. Uncle Harlow helps Wolffe with his identity crisis, and then Rex finds a secret way into Mount Tantis via Luthen Rael, and we find out who Luthen really is. Then Palpatine throws a fit and sends in Lord Vader, who takes out all of the clones, but Ventress steals Omega away at the last second. Vader force chokes Hemlock, which makes it all worth it.

I found this channel before I was pessimistic about SW. I stay because it seemed wrong to unsubscribe from Thor’s channel just because Disney SW sucks. I hope he doesn’t “cater” to pessimism because a little optimism is nice and why would I want to listen to a creator who says what his audience thinks instead of what he truly believes?

I , for one, appreciate a balanced presentation. Such comments seem more likely to be rooted in facts or experiences, whereas one-sided commentary is much more likely to be reflective of the echo chamber it seeks. So, thanks, mate.

Hey Thor What are your thoughts on gatekeepers in the Star Wars KZfaq scene. The Whole, Prequel All Good, Sequels all Bad is Very Annoying when having friendly debates with other fandom members, but Instead I'm not **"TRUE"** Star Wars Fan

The OT had class and majesty. Nothing since has measured up to its standards or quality. Lucas fudged it himself initially, then Disney produced something unrecognisable from the OT, not even in the same universe. That’s the problem.

Great video! I am 51 years old me and my family saw Star Wars 1977 something like 10 times in the theaters back when I was 4 years old just before entering Kindergarten. I had many friends throughout my childhood that were crazy into Star Wars playing with the figures and toys, etc. We were pretty much all on the same page back then, very little disagreement. Empire stoked all our fires like nothing else but even back then during recess we started to have our disagreements. Nobody was sure if Darth Vader was Luke's father becuase it kinda contradicted the first movie. And who was "the other" that Yoda spoke about? Well shit hit the fan with Return of the Jedi and the Star Wars fan base fell apart. We couldn't agree on anything. Many of us didn't like the fact that Luke and Leia were twins, like, wtf is this crap? (I was in that boat still there to this day). Boba Fett died like an insignificant bitch and Jabba's palace was kinda silly and Ewoks? George i'm trying to grow up not stay a kid forever! Anyways, Star Wars has been dividing the fan base since the very beginning. I enjoy Mandalorian cuz Grogu is pretty cool and Mando is a dope western gunslinger. But Andor is simply the BEST FUCKING STAR WARS sinces Empire Strike Back. Anyways! Everyone loves something different about Star Wars we been arguing about it 20 years before the fucking internet had anything to say about it. LOL. Cheers!

I have no problem with people liking all Star Wars. What bothers me is when people tell me I should rewatch the sequels and I’ll appreciate them more, or that one day they’ll be liked the way the prequels are now. No, they won’t, I always liked the prequels, the stories were always solid, the world building was there, the characters were memorable, and George made them. The sequels for me have none of that, they’re badly written, and TROS is the worst thing Star Wars ever made. I don’t like being told I’m a hater for having standards of quality, and being told I should just enjoy Disney Star Wars because it’s “fun” and “better than nothing”. If you want to like crap, that’s fine, but don’t tell me I also have to like it. I don’t support bad movies and shows, because no, it isn’t harmless, if we support it, they’ll keep making more of it at this level, they’ll have no incentive to improve.

One big problem with the sequels is that it isn't art. There's simply just no vision. It's only business for Disney.

just keep it dead. we need to remember what was great and move on.

Love your stuff man! I don't agree with everything you like but that's what makes it interesting to watch. I'm also fairly optimistic overall, until the show is bad.

I appreciate Thor’s integrity.

Balance is key to everything. Thanks for always being a bright spot of the fanfom, and bringing us your based and balanced takes 💖

I don’t care if people still like the wretched Disney stuff, just don’t piss on my legs and tell me it’s raining

Luke was originally a hologram in Jabbas Palace?

The world needs to join the Gen X crowd and "You do you boo".

Bro can talk about Star Wars at the intellectual level of Oppenheimer and I’m all for it 🙌🗣️