My god, Kevin was accidentally on fire this episode. That man is a national - nay, global - treasure

Kevin realizing it's Joss not Josh is gonna be the funniest thing I see all day. Edit: I wrote this before I got to the cookie bit. Now that tops the Joss/Josh bit.

The Knightmare scene in JL takes place before the Knightmare scene in BvS. Batman has the Joker card on his rifle in BvS.

I can't believe you guys skipped over Cyborg's best moment when he's inside the unity and it's trying to convert him "I'm not broken...... and I'm not alone" Very powerful and the point of his arc in the movie.

Not sure if Nick knows this, but Snyder has never seen the theatrical cut. That’s probably why he didn’t use anything from the Whedon version.

Lol that beanie makes Tim look like a 35 yr old playing a high school weed dealer. Like he belongs in Jessie Pinkmans crew.

“Faith, Alfred. Faith.” I love Batfleck’s character arc from Batman vs Superman to Justice League. In BvS, he was broken, hateful, and alone. But, Superman’s sacrifice showed him that there’s still good in the world. In Justice League, he’s rejuvenated and enjoys the company of others. He believes in the team, the people around him, he cares for all of them. The final scene with Bruce standing outside, smiling and looking at the sunset, that was brilliant. He knew his parents were proud of him, and he finally found peace.

“This movie is too complex for me.” Really sums it up for Tim

In Man of Steel the whole world figures out that Superman’s name is Kal El

Zod announced his name to the entire world in MoS, so she probably knows from that. I assume she would prefer to call him by his given name than “Superman.” She doesn’t know he’s Clark until after he dies.

Watching Tim and Nick have a hard time discerning if it’s a good movie or not is proof that they should’ve watched/review in one sitting.

Lmao at Greg “that’s why I voted for years to get you off in review” 😂😂😂😂

Fun fact for Ezra Miller in the Knightmare scene: he actually was on zoom with Zack telling him what to do, and he shot his part on the set of Fantastic Beasts 3

Corpses, Corpses with Kev ... Kev- “Don’t check my basement”

The scenes with Flash and his dad were so good. They have fantastic chemistry.

"One Flash Rule": he's so powerful already that he gives himself a rule to keep himself in check essentially. "Lois is the key": she's the key to Superman being in contact/relation to humanity ala Dr. Manhattan/Silk Spectre. Once she's removed from the "equation" Superman is more susceptible. That's how i see it. "Cyborg Knightmare": is basically flashing forward through the timeline that confirms that if they go through with this (resurrecting Supes) this is the endgame, no pun intended . "WW calling him Kal-El": goes back to Zod's message that was streamed across the world, the message took over all rss feeds, tv and wifi signals, so it's safe to assume wherever Diana was at that time, she saw the message and heard Zod call him "Kal-El"

That flash moment was fucking epic! One of the best in my opinion 🤷🏽‍♂️ I loved the not impressed line! We are on way different ends of the spectrum! 🤣

I don't get what Tim's problems was about the timelines lmao

It's so crazy that I love these guys so much but literally hate their rankings of pretty much every franchise they've done. Like sometimes I don't even know if they like movies haha

For me personally, Snyder’s Justice League is easily my favourite movie in the DCEU. I think it’s the perfect blend of light hearted fun, and darker storytelling that Zack previously established in MoS and BvS. It’s funny because when BvS originally released, I didn’t enjoy it because it wasn’t like the MCU. But now that I’m older, I really appreciate these movies more, along with the world and characters Zack built. I’d love to see a sequel, and the SnyderVerse restored.

The flash scene in the end is everything i could have ever wanted from this snyder cut. I will watch that scene over and over forever even tho it was not earned.

Greg is whooping y’all ass this episode! 😂 It pays to pay attention.

I've been a fan of KF for years now and I have never, EVER laughed as hard and uncontrollably for as long as I have when Kevin pulled out that cookie. Thank you for keeping my spirits up I needed that

Y’all throw some disrespect on that flash scene. Now I don’t know if it’s because you can’t empathise or you’re trying to be funny? But the scenes with Barry and his dad, cyborg and his father are some of the most heartening and emotional beats of this movie and you just had me feeling like you didn’t appreciate it or acknowledge their importance. Barry’s line delivery was to his dad, essentially telling him that he was one of the most important and heroic people on the planet when he left him in prison thinking he had believed Barry to be wasting his life.

I genuinely think if you're confused by the nightmare scenes you need to stick with Fast and Furious

"Doomsday come, me wanna go home." I was crying from laughing so hard at that stupid joke. 🤣🤣

I’m a Marvel guy so all the DCEU slander is funny AF. But even I know everyone knows Superman’s name is Kal-El from Zod’s message in MOS right?

Glad Nick got to cover that fucking land mass of a back that Cavill has because holy shit

I JUST finished the film. I fucking loved it. As someone who couldn’t even finish the joss whedon justice league I cannot believe how much I loved this and how much it actually hit in ways I didn’t expect, beautiful stuff

I’ve seen it twice now and still love it. The Batman/Joker interaction is so damn good

THE ACES ARE WILD !!! LETS GO BABY!!!

The way Tim couldn't fathom the concept of respect....... ? 28:56

How do you not understand that when flash and cyborg are digging up supes it is CLEARLY out of respect. Like, what? What other reasoning would you even want?

1:22:14 - Everybody on the planet knows his name is Kal-El. You are not alone. My name is General Zod. I come from a world far from yours. I have journeyed across an ocean of stars to reach you. For some time, your world has sheltered one of my citizens. I request that you return this individual to my custody. For reasons unknown, he has chosen to keep his existence a secret from you. He will have made efforts to blend in. He will look like you. But he is not one of you. To those of you who know of his current location, the fate of your planet rests in your hands. To *Kal-El* I say this: Surrender within twenty four hours. Or watch this world suffer the consequences.

An explanation for why Wonder Woman calls Superman as Kal-El is probably because when Zod and his army came to Earth in MoS, he told everyone on Earth that he was searching for Kal-El. So, before WW knew that Superman was Clark Kent, she knew him as Kal-El.

And for the record the congratulations is about the baby because you see Lois Lane holding a baby bassinet when she’s walking into the house with Martha as opposed to the Joss Whedon cut where she’s just holding a box

Can we talk about Andy getting caught off guard being asked to do Haiku in Review EVERY SINGLE THING!?

Tim in nutshell: "This is pretty cool, but it's not Marvel or Fast and Furious, so it's overly complex and lame."

Remember the God aweful mouth that went with the truth line.

Can’t wait to have them nitpick this part of the movie to death lol

Gal Gadot easily had the most screen time and badass moments. I'm ok with that, she's dope af.

All of Tim’s and Kevin’s complaints boil down to “movie long me confused”

To explain the timeliness stuff my read of it was that the BVS Knightmare scene and the vision Cyborg has happen on the same time line where Berry doesn't reverse time and stop the unity , and then the epilogue happens in the time line where berry did reverse time but Darkseid invaded using the old ways

You only get to be critical about plot and info that happened in the movie WHEN you get the facts correct. Otherwise you are just using ur false info to make bad opinions. Looking at everybody here except Greg.

In Snyders leaked full story that Tim mentioned, Louis was pregnant with Bruces baby, not Clarks. Snyder is a lunatic.

Left you guys years ago, came back for this react for Greg. And I’m gone again

@ 15:15 it’s not a dream Bruce said he had referring to “Batman V Superman” he told Wonder Women he had a “premonition” big difference fellas

"how is lois lane the key?" does that really need to be explained when you've watched bvs and this movie?

@ 1:00:57 i watched Tim laugh at Kevin's cookie monologue at least 50 times...I just wanna shout out..

"IT'S JOSS?"

"Epilogue was just used to setup the next movie" Well... Yes? Don't understand the criticism towards the epilogue while at the same time always being stoked about the end credit scenes in MCU -movies. This is infinitely better than any of those scenes.

Completely overlooked how the mother boxes used Victor’s weaknesses against him and how he had to overcome his whole arc in order to save the day. That’s why Aquaman showed concern for him earlier, knowing he was going to be put in a tough spot right after losing his dad. It was just as much of a climax as Flash’s rewind (plus it was actually built up better unlike Flash’s dad), and they happened back to back from each other.

Nick: 'It would have been good if that actually played out, and then the next movie could have been them going back in time and trying to fix that'... So Endgame...

This came in clutch on my 4 hour drive today. Thanks for the content

According to Snyder apparently batman was treating Robin like a kid and so Robin got a complex about it and to prove himself went to try and take on joker and got himself killed and joker destroyed Wayne manor. This is why bats is unhinged and explains the manor and Robin's suit in BvS.

Its a little weird some of them complained about the Flash scenes, flash was awesome in this movie. I totally enjoy how in the beginning he seems a little unsure of himself and at the end he saves the day and we have that scene with him running in the city with a smile on his face. Really enjoyed his place in the movie and didn't think it too much for this movie as a whole. The nightmare scene I agree doesnt really mesh well with the rest of the movie, however I don't know if that scene was meant to be in the movie initially. I was under the impression it was added after the snyder cut was announced. Either way, don't really see why we should complain about more movie. I'd say it would be more of an issue if we had more nightmare scenes sprinkled inside the movie, that would be cutting into the main story and be distracting. Regardless...seeing the justice league chop off Stephenwolfs head and it spilling on the floor by DarkSieds feet was insane! total hype.

Lex Luthor did not get his information from Steppenwolf, he used kryptonite to cut off Zod's fingerprints and used them to access the Kryptonian archives. He wasn't even made aware of Steppenwolf until the end of BvS

The best sign to me that I really like Snyder's Trilogy more and more is that with Justice League I have so much urge to rewatch it and it makes me want to rewatch all of them. (Though idk why they thought wonder woman's theme was a good idea lol) I'm with Greg that these are the ways I would have told the stories but that doesn't mean I can't like them. Really interested how Flashpoint will be. He was definitely my favorite part of this cut.

I just need to say that I appreciate the preamble of Kev's cookie reveal involved him getting up in what looked like a moment of true panic. It multiplies the moment by like 100.

Tim and Nicks opinions are fine whatever, their entitled too their own. But I would like if you guys would keep this same energy towards DC films with Marvel films. I love the MCU but let’s not act like the MCU doesn’t have some of the same problems the DCEU have. The only person whose been pretty consistent in that regard has been Nick. Tim usually glosses over a lot of MCU problems aside from Avengers Age of Ultron. I would really love for someone too explain how this movie is too complex. Almost every question you have is answered. They leave the Knightmare stuff a bit up in the air because I would assume if they didn’t want too go in that direction they’d have an easy out by saying it was just a dream. Also saying that the problem with Flash is that he runs faster is a bit redundant since that’s kind of Flash’s thing. In order to rewind time he needs to run faster.

As a Marvel fan myself, it upsets me when people like Tim shit on DC films like this. Its quite evident that he just doesn't enjoy DC stories but that doesn't mean the film isn't good. Is it the kind of story I wanted? Hell no, but I can put my hand on my heart and honestly say this movie was great.

I love how Tim is out here bitching about how confusing the knightmare scene and stuff is here (it's not), but then he's like "they should have just started with the injustice and apocalypse movie with an already formed JL" Like respectfully Tim..... f**k off You would've bitches about that too. This is a better setup with the team forming, leading into what's to come. Still love you guys

So glad that Zack Snyder’s Justice league is being received so well by so many. Current sitting at 96% audience score on RT and 8.3/10 on IMDB!! The ironic thing is that the jokes landed better in Zack Snyder’s version than in Joss’s which was cut, reshot, and rewritten to be “funnier” Also each character is integral and brought something of value to the team in ZSJL. Meanwhile Joss’s flash was sent on a side mission to rescue a random family...and Batman is useless in the final battle.

I actually prefer Lois not being a part of Batman’s plan. It gives her agency, and we establish in the first half why she is going there daily anyways so it’s also in context and less “convenience.” Being a part of Batman’s plan isn’t bad necessarily, it’s neat to always see Batman’s contingency plan, but I do enjoy giving Lois her agency back.

1:00:41 Cookie Kev, the immediate reaction, and its persistent fallout brought me to TEARS from laughing so hard.

isn't one of the only reasons superman didn't run through doomsday because he had just been walloped with kryptonite by batman. My interpretation had always been that this was why batman had so much guilt over his death. And that supes probably could've handled him had that not been the case.

Nicks Pied Piper joke was so good an underappreciated

In the MCU they traveled to different points in the multiverse, the ancient one explains this. In DC there is a multiverse exactly in the same way, but when the flash does his thing he actually alters time across a single reality like in back to the future or bill and ted, where in itself time travel is a paradox. if one will ever go back in time then they already have. Of course the only one's in DC who are really aware of this paradox are the speedsters themselves (and the time wraiths) so in this case Barry remains aware of the changes to the timeline but nobody else is. This means that his one rule exists because he has already fucked up the timeline before, this is made clear by the scene where he meets iris in which he seems to already know her even though they have never met.

I didn't enjoy the movie (although probably more than I did the Whedon version) but Tim has always had a weird hangup on the Knightmare flashforward stuff and he's carried that into his opinions on this version as well even though it pretty much explains everything.

Those ten mins of crazy made me laugh so loud at work that people think I’m crazy now. Thank you guys haha

Originally Snyder wanted to introduce John Stewart's Green Lantern into the movie but WB told him he couldn't use the character so he subbed in Martian Manhunter as a compromise.

You guys are too funny ''The Ships like dont do it!! Aquaman is like dont do it bad idea!! but Cyborg is like fuckkkk off!! im gonna do it i can launch nukes!!'' roflll he didnt say that

Still no one is dressed in their DC costume?!? I'm not amused.

I think people are forgetting that this is not a theatrical cut and a directors cut. I’m sure if Zack Snyder was to make this a theatrical cut then it would be more concise. That’s why the four hours doesn’t bother me

The fucking cookie killed me

When you talked about restoring the Ayer Cut, I was like 'What about Wonder Woman 1984'? When it was first pre-screened to the audience like 1.5 years ago supposedly it was good. But WB execs didn't like some of it and did the reshoots. After a second pre-screening, people did not like it at all, and that is the version we ended up with...

I love the Batman and Joker scene, there conversation was so good

Gotta love Greg sneaking in the "We are Mizzou" line with Faith in Haith. MIZ...

This is where the fun begins

Nick, your John Wick was actually good as well. Give yourself some credit bro!!

Was I the only one who got excited when Flash mentions he knows GORILLA sign language?? Snyder is a little up his own ass sure but I love that he is a comic book fan

It's quite an assumption Superman made that Steppenwolf's axe wouldn't have just lopped his torso in half. Like, he knows space rocks can cut through him, but this crazy spikey space axe? Nah, I'll be fiiiine.

When Andy brings up Ben Alfeck looking CGI, all I could think about was how much he looks like George Clooney 1:51:02

Has an idea been passed around for patreon subscribers to have watch alongs for these in reviews? I would have loved to have done that with Greg specifically for this movie via discord or something

One thing I really miss not seeing (way more often) is Darkseid in his iconic pose with his hands behind his back

I sat through a four hour movie (which I enjoyed way more than I thought I would) , for this. And it is exceeding my expectation. The unprompted Chyrnobyl science with Kev starring his cookie is, among everything else, more than I ever could have hoped for.

Only Greg gets it. Sigh.

Go to 1:00:23 And look at the masterful directing of Kevin's feed - that's a beautiful story telling shot. Really, go frame-by-frame, and check out the narrative build up of this cookie entering the frame. This man deserves an Emmy.

No, the JOKER kills lewis and that's why superman blames batman, for not stopping the Joker.

I'm with Kevin on the timeline talk lol

1:22:00 In Man of Steel Zod broadcasts to the world Supermans name "To Kal-El, I say this; Surrender within 24 hours or watch this world suffer the consequences"

Kevin's faces at the start of every episode is hilarious

Kevin is on fire this episode.

Seems like only Greg watched the movie.

I actually miss when andy would just sing the songs instead of playing the music as well XD. I thought those were really good without the music lol

#restoretheSnyderVerse

The dummy explanation of Flash time travel in this movie is that he runs so fast that he actually gets there BEFORE he started running. Imagine if he normally ran so fast that he could get 100 yards in 1 second. Well now he's running so fast that he runs 100 yards in -2 seconds.

This man really said Snyder should have used some of Whedon's footage. 🤦‍♂️

Is Birds of Prey ranked 1 as a troll/joke? Surely should be dead last lol

My favorite part of this movie is when Joker offers to give Batman a reach around.