@@cronusmax you're fighting for your life only to look even dumber. Many games ToS state macros and many features on zen are cheating

@@cronusmax can’t believe a company is behaving like this😂 you guys are a joke

Ikr ? That’s actually pathetic, it’s unbelievable how easy it is to pick lock in dying light. And these ass hats need scripts for that?

@@cronusmax why do you sound like a 10 year old defending himself even in the comment thats pinned

@@cronusmax tell that to the esports community your ruining ?

It is cheating, it however isn’t hacking the game since it’s client side.

@@rduncan89 tiss hacking when scripts are involved, did you know that there is a term for this type of hacking? "off application hacking" its the same concept of people on PC running things in the background behind the game client. wish more people knew these things so that modern devs and companies cant act like they are "fixing it as fast as they can"

Yea cheating is using external devices too, Its not always internal cheats, stupid script kids

Mouse and keyboard players can do this to without this technology the scripts are just adding macros to a controller like a computer can add macros to a keyboard and mouse

@@robertlyons5761 while your argument is half right, the modern controller spoofing devices do have the ability to make and download script macros for things like no recoil and also are able to mask their mouse and keyboard as a controller in games that restrict their use. button macros are one thing but once you have something assisting your movement and aim then its not really you playing anymore. this is the main issue

Nah even better bruh

Why r u being offensive for no reason

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@@eIectro for what?

Is that a good thing or a bad thing

fr bro

Stay mad broke

its crazy

@@cronusmax yes sir

Cry some more

I agree with the slide cancel but that’s why you buy a controller with paddles not a device with mods and scripts

@\f_a/ bro she uses way more than cronus.... 🤣

It is not getting rid of the recoil though. All it is doing is pulling the stick around a bit like a player would.

@@judahfalls7704 with software that takes away the recoil in game, your saying the same thing he is whats your point?

@@petejones6827it’s a lot clunkier than you think. When you use it any like stick movement throws it off.

the console aim assist argument falls apart with any cross play game, M&K will always be more accurate. this is partially because there is no designated design for controller input across all games, its one of the biggest reason most controller settings are what cause controller players to be worse than they actually are, its an unfortunate side effect of people outright accepting the forced introduction of M&K on console....

What you people don't understand is it can only do what the game can do. If you can physically spam L2 to snap to people, that is because the game allows it (it doesn't anymore). Cronus Zen is just a more advanced rubberband. Even when you use mouse and keyboard in a game with Zen, the game is sending controller. You will never be able to turn faster than the controller.

How else are console players supposed to compete against pc sweats? Not everyone can afford a pc just to get good at a game we might as well get the mods since its just a video game

It's a controller mod that changes the parameters of the game. Aim assist is tuned to make controller vs. M&K closer to fair. Bump up your aim assist and it's cheating.

@@judahfalls7704 is a turbo controller cheating in Mario Party? This device is along those lines and it seems obvious if you mod your game or controller you're cheating. It's just about how much cheating is acceptable. Can pro players use a Cronus Zen? I don't think so, but what about a scuff or elite controller? Those have more buttons than a standard controller giving an unfair advantage over people playing with the standard controller. A Zen is cheating but for now it's slight enough to get away with.

imagine buying a zen and not making any money 💀

@@zeteny imagine thinking aim is the only thing you need to get earnings 💀

@@redreni4185 It's not, but if you don't make earnings with it then you are probably pretty bad🤭

@@jethatchard1276 someone without zen who cant get earnings is also pretty bad, whats your point?

@@redreni4185 Not getting earnings without a zen is the most standard thing 😐. If you literally cheat and can't get earnings though, that makes you extra bad

What's funny is now you are just matchmaked against pc users legitimately with native m&k.

how refreshing a gamepad player agrees with me on this topic. Maybe humanity isn´t lost

@@cronusmax Believe me I had a lot of fun as I started playing shooter at the age of 29. I never had a PC or console I were only working, playing football and partying with friends all day. So you can know I were always the worst in the lobby. I had the absolute cheapest pc you imagine and never had a mouse in hand before. But I still never considered cheating. I am now 35 and now above average in my skills even at my age. But I learned it the hard way from scratch. I will never be a top player but I hold my ground in every shooter I play now. If I would cheat it would not be fun it would be betraying myself and others.

@@cronusmax defend the losers some more why dont ya. The only people using that garbage device are the same ones who play story mode games on easy mode. They aren’t real winners and will never be able to experience it

@@cronusmax but what if ur not learning and you’re an experienced player? Now ur good AND you have a complete unfair advantage

The only thing that bugs me when zen conversations come up is that PC players always get so pissed about the edit reset macro. I really can't see any problem with such a macro since PC players have scroll wheel reset.

"Makeing" lmao

trueeee

@@carefvl2003 its just a spelling mistake u don't have to be so fucking toxic about it.

@@cronusmax Its cheating because ben chill says "This is a piece of hardware that allows for unintended actions that are not meant to be available to any players (such as stronger aim assist, macros, or no recoil) which directly impacts your ability to win (particularly in fights)." if you cheat in a online video game you suck as a person as your cheating people out of money or other rewards which you did not earn by cheating if you cheat ur kinda weird ngl

@@frigidszn7510 cry some more spaz

Battlefield and COD too

The final thing u said is fax they literally said thank you when benji said he was gonna quit they are making their game really crap atm and I'm getting sick of how op the weapons are getting so I have to build more u can't even use normal boxfight techniques like 2 box method anymore

epic doesn't care about the community because they are sick of the constant bitching.

You stated correctly in the first place just because you have a top notch pc don’t make you good at the game same with the Cronus zen it won’t give you an advantage it just make things easier just like a top notch pc and 240hz monitors so the second half of the statement is wrong

@@mikepagani6996 having stronger aim assist = better aim which definitely makes you a better player. As far as the mechanics side of the game, the two main actions are building/editing and shooting. Being able to increase your ability to do one of those things using a device is without a doubt an advantage. For example imagine giving kbm players aim assist, obviously that would be cheating because it’s an unintended advantage they are not supposed to have. It’s the exact same thing with a controller player having aim assist above a certain strength. It’s an advantage they are not meant to have. No player in the game is supposed to have no recoil when they shoot their guns. No player in the game is meant to have a macro that presses multiple buttons at once for them. All of these cheats on the zen gives players a competitive advantage that the game doesn’t intend ANY player to have. Also Fortnite themselves have literally already said that using a macro is cheating. They also said “using any kind of cheating device, program, or similar cheating method to gain a competitive advantage” is cheating in their chapter 3 season 3 official rules blog post published 6/24/22. There is no way to justify using a zen with these scripts as anything other than a cheating device. Converting your input device is totally okay, and fortnite agrees (ex. Double movement software) so if you’re using a zen to play with an Xbox controller on a play station or anything like that, it’s all good. But if you’re gaining an unintended advantage from scripts, then you shouldn’t even need a rule book to tell you that it’s cheating.

Better fps does not necessarily give you better performance, aim bot guaranteed will make you much better

its not the case, more people stop play cuz of cheaters and it have more impact. Also its not so easy to detect bcs you already have some aim assist on controller and how do you find diffeence in 40 and 50 % aim assist, you dont. Thats why people aint banned

over reacting honestly, like its just hustling to get free cash who cares about doing it for real thats just bs gotta do what u gotta do to get the bag

With thoughts like that you might as well be a criminal if you know what's right and wrong. Breaking rules and breaking law similar thing lack of self respect to earn a honest living.

@@badbonezFN its different when its just a game

@@redreni4185 That’s so dumb, because games are meant for fun and you ruin the fun by cheating. Also some pros do make a living out of this game, which can be threatened by undetected cheaters, so it’s pointless to say «it’s just a game»

@@HolterDomino Purpose in life isnt to care about how much fun other people have playing fortnite, and most non cheating pros still easily make earnings its not that big of a deal and if it is they can just get a zen themselves

Caught you in 4k 📸

Justicul bro he’s trolling 💀 you didn’t catch much. Lololol

Are you wave vic0 or nah

As a zen user, I would say, thats not my problem

@@cronusmax can i have free zen :O

Not nearly, they ARE undetectable

@@cronusmax NGL I've seen alot of your comments, your the kind of person who'd sell their mom for pennies on the dollar if it ment you could have more cash.

Fucking gamers are nothing but frauds. What a joke.

Is it though really? By this definition... Is buying an elite controller with paddles and going up against people with a standard controller not cheating? Is playing on a higher spec console that pushes 2-4 times the framerate not cheating? Is using better internet and having a lower ping not cheating? Is match making against a PC user with a mouse and keyboard, or even a macro mouse and keyboard not them cheating? These are slight advantages at best that are probably less than the above advantages. You still have to aim. You still have to be able to play the game. At best maybe it gets you to the top of your skill level but it is not going to make you exceed it. Remember that all these devices can do is blindly press buttons. They cannot create anything that is not already in the game.

@@judahfalls7704 You are forgetting one crucial detail, None of the items you mention add scripts, scripts that can remove all/most recoil along with a array of other things, That is why Fortnite Is doing hardware bans and CallofDuty Is trying to combat it, By all means if you want to use it use it, As it stands right now it is cheating, In your words it is "pulling the stick around a bit like a player would" If I had a program on my pc to do that it would be cheating hands down, "It is lower educated people that are perpetuating" promotion comments like you.

@@TheUnshifted you realize a script is just a macro right. Fortnite doesn't even have recoil. As I said if it can do it the player can do it. Get good trash.

@@judahfalls7704 Anything that changes the function of the game or the player without the player's actualy input is in fact, cheating as it circumvents game design implemented by the designers and goes against the intent. Just because the cheating isn't as blatant or severe, doesn't mean it isnt'. Cronus comparing themselves to something like a Gameshark should be enough to see they get what they're doing ;)

@@Jabler- Oh whatever dawg. You support playing online only unfinished micro transaction trash. You're perfectly okay with them making unbalanced games filled with unfair advantages across players like crazy and here you are acting like you're not? LOL!

stop the cap and regurgitating the trash EPIC has said in a PR statement. The zen does nothing more that what the top 25% of the player base does. So epic is going to ban the top 25% of the player base??? miss me with that trash....or just maybe...just maybe do you now feel more warm a fuzzy because of a PR statement. God damn people will believe anything......

@@Masi22isaM lul

@@cronusmax Did you even read my comment?

But it is used for cheating in onljne games. What dont you understand about that? No recoil, faster shooting, better aim assist. Its being used as a cheating device and you simply dont care. Shameful.

@@cronusmax The damage control is strong with you boi

*Ahem* cross-play *cough*but I see what you’re saying tho and I definitely agree with you

All pro cheats

Dude what you and many others do not understand, is fairness went out the window, the moment you people decided to match make console gamers against PC players. And if you play on PC, fairness has never existed. PC gamers will turn off foilage to see better, use wall hacks, aim bots, these things are a 1000 times more powerful than something that is entirely based on macro playback.

@EmberSL7 Accidentally took my reply off but the point is , if your using somthing to Purposely cheat in a online multiplayer game like giving your self perfect aim , then that’s unfair and cheating , , im not %100 sure about that other stuff guess it should be tested by Professionals to see if it gives people a unfair advantage and if anything does , simply get Reid of it or let everyone use the same thing. Where it’s fair on everyone , humans mess stuff up from time to time and zens basically turn you into a Computer that doesn’t miss. How is that fair to Your opponent in a online game ? It’s not ,

@EmberSL7 None of those are cheating.

If I ever find new information I will ;)

mouse and keyboard are compatible with new console ....

they cant detect it cause it controls ur controller or mnk so there is nothing to detect they probably could but the software to detect it would be so intrusive it would be illegal also i saw on reddit they have made it so mnk is very easy to use with it so now mouse aim has cronus crazy

@@shaggy-wb1yn they patched it on ps5 only. everything is detectable

@@RPGkanon there are apparently work-arounds

@@christianroberts23 you gotta buy a 100$ usb thingy and remote play your controller which adds latency

@@RPGkanon crazy thing is that people will actually buy that

Haha, now is inside of the ps5 controller 😂😂😂...ps5 controller ha been hacked as a pie

all that needs to be done is find the code it pulls up when plugged in and lock the input from the device before it attempts to spoof the input. The easiest way is to make controller confirmation manually check the controllers analog position and input speed, thumbsticks can only move so far and devices like the mouse and keyboard easily go beyond the possible input a controller can provide The issue is that the devices spoof the controller input for something else. if any of these game companies were smart they would implement security behind controllers, most modern controllers have the potential to have security checks to make sure spoofing them isnt so easy. the main issue is that these evil companies are using the disabled as a shield to hide what they really use devices like the cronus zen for, input scripts and spoofing another input as a controller like Mouse and keyboard. they arent even focused on helping the disabled play games.

Your favorite mkb pros use macros to tap strafe or reset/build on fortnite

@@MB808AllDay tap strafing is nothing compared to anti recoil if the zen didn’t specifically have that it wouldn’t be that bad

@@novapheonixgaming buy a zen and test it out then and ship it back when you’re done. It’ll make you play worse you’re just buns buddy.

@@MB808AllDay dead as shit your a random and your screaming that out but it’s cool all the dogshit preds that don’t actually have skill use em only reason they’re pred that’s the problem it’d be a higher skill gap scene if the device didn’t exist

@@cronusmax In fn?

what you are seeing is clever editing and faking from people that want to sell scripts.

Also now: Non existant

@@vfamily4396 no i played on controller for the first time and if you have low sense and an smg its still there

@@Twongz_does_anything I just recently switched to kbm

aim bot is when they are anywhere on screen and you shoot and the bullet goes right to their head no matter what. Aim assist is when you're almost about to shoot them and it shoots for you. One requires a tiny bit of effort and the other requires none at all. Learn the diff bk. Man it's sad that folks don't know this. I've known this since the halo 2 days almost 20 years ago lololol.

because it isn’t aimbot…

thats the official Cronus yt channel. And unfortunately there does seem to be alot of people here that use the cronus zen.

@@cronusmax LOL Love this comment ! I agree 100% just not sure how Fortnite of all games let this slide, but APEX does not ... Maybe since Zen player base increased lol we will never know

@@cronusmax ewww you’re gross.

@@badbonezFN You can still use the zen in EVERY SINGLE GAME. Its undetectable.

@@cronusmax here’s another word for you to look up you thick fk: “euphemism”. You need a dictionary-mod to help you with your English.

Or start a petition to get the product banned being sold by anyone and it offence if you caught try to sell it we as gamers have the power to make that happen

​@@siontimmy1Stop crying. The creator of Cronus has been doing this for a very long time.

@@DrWiki-po1hk Sony and Microsoft can sue the fuck out Cronus Zen creator if they want the ban update it pretty much a mercy from them

@@siontimmy1They can't and they haven't because it's just an output device. Cronus has been doing this since Xbox 360 days.

Many games are already a cheat fest, all we can hope for are epic honourable Chads to play honestly and lay a whoopin' on zen and the like abusers to the point they cry and give up.

I think we've reached a point where Zen is at the peak of its popularity, so I made this video to show those people that it won't make you a pro.

*also my bad I spelled your name wrong

@@Justicul reet became pro with the zen cause in chapter 1 he use to always place top 2,000 but when he got the zen in chapter 2 he started becoming pro

@@frostycarlos1435 reet was improving slowly with the zen he improved faster it didn't make him pro

@@frostycarlos1435 are you 1000% sure that he uses one , cause he literally destroyed half the lobby in that last lan tournament and he didn't have one

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macros are banned

@@KwikBR In other words, if you watched the video, then you would know Zen contains macros.

Bruh what

Yeh hmm funny that, they still can’t beat kbm. Sounds like a skill issue

@@worked7815 kbm is amazing thoe I've been having fun with it and I recently switched to kbm this month

zen is overrated and no one is zenning no pros name one on nae and eu i chill with the biggest controllers eu

@@unknowncomrade5023 yeh ikr, trying to convincce my controller friends (no luck)

Not tryna be that guy but i am one of the rare ones who never cheated, i guarantee i would have made good $ cheating in tournaments on fortnite. but dignity is worth more then $. im older then most gamers but i still wreck it. 2.5-3kd on fort when i really gamed before i quit ranked top 20-25k in the world. why would i ruin peoples experience who are like me from cheating just to get a bag. i only play occasionally and me learning mouse and keyboard still makes me an excellent player because i always played legit.

also when you get to the top level of "pro" gaming, the smallest advantage is a mile. i have lost tons of gun fights from my aim being natural and im off by 1-2 shots where people i know who zen are beating me.

@@riggatonii I feel you man. I feel like the zen also gives the user more confidence because then aim one less thing to worry about. Knowing they can hit their shots, they can think more about positioning and everything else going on around them and that's literally a skill they get to freely build on. I'm the same I don't cheat but I do use a scuf controller. I wouldn't consider that cheating though. And yes about dignity and integrity.. I want to earn it on a level playing field though I've been tempted to join them but we'll see.

@@jjonlaw8140 D.J. the empire will fall, aid the rebellion.

Ayo pause

@@worked7815 man I’m not ashamed good purchase

@@br4dp1tt33 Shoot I'ma get it too prolly haha. Not for cheating online of course. Those days are behind me. I just want better controls : )

@\f_a/ thats funny as ds4 can detect it so i reckon they can tell

but then i guess they got off because some people use tournament mode but still there must be a way

A man of culture

If I told you I had a script that gave you 2000% better aiming would you believe me? These are just made up numbers and you believe it, because you are stupid. All these aim assist boosters do one thing, spin the camera analog stick based on the theory that the game might think you are bad at aiming and apply its best version of its assists that it applies to all players anyway. The real better aim is coming from the confidence boost, the placebo affect that players get from this sugar pill.

Saw this mistake later too 😂 I used the date of when the first device got released, but they've been registered for over 10 years