So once you understand that in regular, switch and fakie stances you're popping off your tail and in nollie stance you pop off your nose then you just have to ask which way your tail goes. If it goes towards your back it's back side. IN EVERY STANCE. Thinking about the direction you're traveling in makes this confusing. Just understand that when you pop fakie you are popping off your tail even though it's the front of your board.

This title is on point dude, first time this ever made sense to me!

Finally a regular stance youtube skater I’ve been confused with other riders bc of their goofy stance

Why am i watching this, i need to study for tommorow's exam lull

When I heard My name is...my brain went Aron Kyro a sponsored skateboarder from the sanfransico bay area and to day I'm gonna teach you the difference between frontside and backside

So logic goes down the drain... Just when I thought I got it all figured out fakie completely ruins my theory. Damn you, whoever is responsible for these stance-names! Thank you Justin, I will keep these in mind. Luckily I am too much of a beginner to worry about this quite yet.

Thank you so much!! Nice explanation!

exellent , as usual

I always thought of it as nollie being the one that didn't make sense for body/board turns. Think about it. A fakie frontside 180 is the same as a regular stanced frontside 180, just done riding backwards. A switch frontside 180 is.... not... the same same as a nollie frontside 180. When riding nollie, you have to pretend that you popped off the tail instead of the nose before you can name the trick. Think about it. It's the same reason why a nollie nosegrind is not called a nollie 5-0. You have to pretend that you popped off the tail like a regular ollie. Nollie is the oddball, not fakie. Great video regardless though!

That finally put to rest my confusion and stupidity thx mate u were explained that clearly and solidly good explanation video 👍

great presentation of the info. :) subscribed

Ayeee that's house park! I came for the nollie explanations cause no one at my local (just 30 mins south of that park you're at) can agree on which direction is front or backside from nollie

Great content. Indeed, the BEST explanation. I still don't get it but, you know your stuff sir. NSISkateboarding ah layk!

Best explanation for frontside vs backside ever! I landed a 180 and didn’t know which way I was doing it. I ended up doing it backside

Thanks. Now I feel like a total noob for messing up the terminology regarding FS/BS half cabs. Guess it's never to late to learn. :) Great video!

Great video!

Thanks, i saw a tutorial that was so bad logical, that i didnt knew at all, so i was thinking that the grinds were bs or fs by the way you spin. Thanks ♥️

Nice content 👍🏻

The 90 degrees definition helped immensely

best video on the topic

cool vid man

Hell yea House Park, great vid man.

The definition of front/backside with tricks not involving obstacles has to do with how the TAIL moves, not the skater. When nollie the tail is still considered in the back where your normal stance wound be, so nollie-frontside (blank) would be the back of the board moving in the forward direction. This definition of where the tail is also describes why if you do a nollie noseslide you pop with the nose and then slide on the front of the board (not a tailslide). When fakie, the tail is considered where your normal back foot is (because you are in your normal foot stance) and that's why it "doesnt make sense" in the definition described in the video. Fakie frontside (blank) is where the front of the board goes forward (your normal forward frontside motion) because thats your "tail." This is also why if you do a fakie tailslide you will pop and land on the same part of the board.

Great explanation, thanks. What skatepark were you riding here btw, looks sick?!

Austin skatepark :) I went there once to go skating and had a blast. I love the empty parking garage right next to it too. Worked on my powerslides there.

So if you do a nolly and ur ride regular your bacicly doing a olly but w your left foot ?

I'm still kinda confused with backside and frontside 180s, so if I ride regular and I 180 turning left them it's backside right? And if I 180 turning to my right them it's front side right?

I'm glad u actually kno what a nollie shuv is unlike the whole skate community that thinks a nollie shuv is a nollie front shuv

THANK YOU. everyone is telling me my fakie frontside flips are backside and I’m like sorry but You’re wrong

I love you💕

After entire life of confuse...Thanks man

How does these terms work for fliptricks? How is a backside varial flip different from a frontside varial flip and so on?

How come nollie tres look like there done in nollie frontside Does it actually work like that cos a nollie tre looks like a nollie 360 hardflip

I'm here because I could not freaking understand why people were saying a cab was done backside when, clearly, it was done frontside. lol. Thanks for the schooling.

What if you do what we would normally be called a “frontside 180” onto an obstacle that is behind you?

Good explanation overall, especially about why Fakie body rotations are reversed... But you have your Nollie Shuvits wrong. Since Shuvits are a flip trick, they're based on the way the board is scooped relative to the feet, not just the way the board rotates overall. If you took the action of a FS Shuvit and mirrored it to the nose, reversing the roles of your feet (as with any flip trick), the board would inherently rotate the other way. As another example, think about how a Varial Kickflip compares to a Nollie Varial Kickflip; they flip in the same direction, but rotate in opposite directions, despite being a similar action.

What's it called when you do a FS boardslide but your body faces forward? Does it even have a special name. Switch is the way you land so is there another name for it?

I can easily frontside carve a bowl but I can't backside so I'm trying to figure out how...

at 1:18 is the spot xQc skated on stream a while back

when you did "nollie backside shuv" that was the only thing that threw me off because we have always called that a nollie fs shuv. although the nollie bs 180 you did is how i call it as well. very strange it seems half the people think nollie is one way and half the other. if you think about it then a nollie 360 flip would actually be a nolllie 360 hardflip and vice versa because the nollie 360 flip would have the fs 360 shuv.

Ok I know this is like 4 years too but I know the park you're skating at, it is at House park broski! Such a good park just so over crowded

can you help with switch ollie tips? I'm goofy and just cannot pop with my right foot. Thank you

Wow, what's the music used in this video?

It all makes perfect sense to me other than the fakie/nollie thing you are talking about at the end. I feel like fakie makes more sense than nollie. Fs flip and fakie fs flip are same trick. Switch fs flip and nollie fs flip are not the same 🤷‍♂️ Every other thing makes sense in my opinion.

Are you skating House Park in Austin?

What if you shove-it towards a rail frontside but rotate your body to catch it at 90 degrees and boardslide with your body facing front? Is that called a Shove it to FS or BS boardslide?

The trick at 1:37 is a Fakie Backside Boardslide. Fakie slides and grinds are named for what they would be if done forwards. Here's a Fakie Back Lip. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8yJgK14yanRaas.html&feature=emb_logo

0:05 DIDE IS THAT HOUSE PARK OMG I WENT THERE LIKE TWO DAYS Ago

Whats the difference between frontside pop shuv and backside pop shuv

I know this video is 3 years old but at @3:40 isn’t that a nollie front shuv?

someone explain

this shit fucked me up for years... good explanation

still confused on which way you turn for a backside 180

Is this housepark?

Wouldn’t fs and bs switch when in the nollie stance on flat ground? For example a bs bigflip in your normal stance whether you ride goofy or regular is a backside 180 varial kick flip which also spins bs, if the board was to spin fs with a kick flip it would be a hardflip. So if you was to do a nollie bigflip the same direction as fs in your regular stance it would be bs, it couldn’t be fs because the board does a varial kick flip with the bs spin and not a hardflip that spins fs. This would mirror the fakie stance if this makes any sense at all haha

House park?

What kind of wheels are those???

At 0:05, what trick is that

I get what a frontside 50/50 grind is. I get what a backside 50/50 grind is. I get what a frontside 180 is. I get what a backside 180 is. What I don’t get is, if you roll up to a rail frontside and you turn 90 backside into a boardslide, this is called a frontside boardslide. What is it called if you roll up frontside and turn 90 frontside into a boardslide? It can’t also be called a frontside boardslide can it? Because they are two totally different tricks. If you’re boardsliding down a 20 stair rail it’s a huge difference if your back is facing the landing vs if you can see the landing in front of you. It’s not called the same trick is it? Seems like it should be called a front front board, or a front back board. Is there no distinction when naming the trick? Also as someone who has skated off and on for fun over 20 years I can’t believe I never fully got this til now.

If im goofy a frontside for me its a backside ._.?

the half cab board you did was 100 percent backside

How do you know if your hitting it from the back ?

The popping foot thing does make some sense. Someone tried explaining it by saying it was about what way the nose went. Made no sense to me.

It's the nose that matters in flat ground tricks! Think of fakie as just rolling backwards the nose is still in the same position! But once you move your feet up for Mollie the nose is being popped off. So the nose is being modified! So fakie makes sense !

I understand the methodology, but it'd be way easier for whoever initially created front and backside to go by the direction of the turn in the board for boardslides. A frontside 180 on a rail is a backside boardslide...

yo that’s my skatepark

Your naming convention for fakie and nollie rotations is backwards. It does not matter which side of the board you pop--it is about what way your body rotates and in which direction you are rolling. For example, Jim Greco is famous for his perfect nollie backside flips. That's why the Berrics asked him to do it on first try Fridays (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbRkg9dqup-qoYE.html). Reynolds does a fakie backside flip down Carlsbad (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arGpq6tluJ65qmQ.html), not a fakie frontside flip. Also, see Janoski do nollie frontside flips for the contrapositive on The Berrics' Trickipedia (theberrics.com/trickipedia-stefan-janoski-nollie-frontside-flip). You are completely right with grinds and bowl tricks.

Its so strange how natural it feels for me to skate backside when like my logical thinking is like wouldn't it be easier to do it front side? But my body is like NO DUDE do backside Trippy

Ok, now try explaining the fakes fs/bs tail slides.. I dare you :p

Thanks! kNow me no words gooded 🙃 Hope me for more worded movie cinemas! Puh, puh, puh pease. Wankz to you!🤣

That’s my local park bruh

There's a super good skater at my local park who thinks backside is frontside till he's blue in the face. I've skated for 16 years and surf, so obviously you'd think he'd listen, but I'll be patient nonetheless lol.

If you want a logical reason why fakie is "opposite" think of it this way for a regular stance skater: We consider fakie to be rolling backwards, if you do a clockwise 180 your back is facing "forwards" (not the direct you are rolling), making it a bs 180 (half cab). That makes better sense to me until I read it back.

Why is the "backside boardslide" on the coping clearly frontside lmao

Still confused

So there is no reasoning behind why the same name of 180 trick fakie vs nollie is opposite? This has never made sense to me. You explained in the video and there is still no explanation. It just inconsistent and you have to remember.. I've been skating for 10 years and i never got a logical answer. Its frustrating. Imagine you are ambidextrous. Then wether you pop nollie or fakie is the same for you. Then whats frontside or backside? If that makes sense. Its not a question, more an example for how ridiculous this conundrum is.

It really takes me 30 minutes to really know how to distinguish

You should have covered lipslides... Great video though.

I get it, but the fact that the nollie stance is inverted is stupid. A nollie varial heel flip turns in the same direction as it would when done switch (fs shuv), but if you were to do that same trick (nollie v heel) with out the heelflip it would be considered backside shuv🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

because fakie is meant to be skating "backwards?"

being dyslexic and with a goofy stance this was a bitch to follow. i got it tho, its all good...i think.

2:58 that's still frontside bro so you get like 98 percent lol 😝 0:01 that's also frontside . Whatever front of the body is facing it doesn't change with fakie according thrasher

Jezz tmi

Hmmm, huh?

Ollie 180, nollie 180, and fakie 180 all spin the same clockwise direction. The clockwise direction doesn’t “switch” until you are in switch. Just throwing that out there

That whole fakie stance thing just does not make sense. WHY! Im turning backside. But its frontside!? Why?!!! Tell me WHY!?!? Lol

This is so wrong. Backside or frontside has to do with the way you are turning. If the nose of the board turns towards your heels, it's backside, and if the nose of the board turns towards your toes it's frontside. That method has NO inconsistencies. No inconsistencies = correct, in my book. In this video, the direction the skater is turning for a backside boardslide is the SAME direction for a FRONTside 180 - which is ridiculous - and wrong. (And remember, if you're going fakie (backwards), you're still popping off the TAIL.)

You had me at first, then I lost it... Not your fault though.

The Surfer way to label them is dumb. The most logical way is the original intuitive way of thinking, that is, a frontside carve is when the front of your body faces the arc of the turn and a backside when your back faces the turn arc. Skaters need to undo the dumb reasoning of Surfers

Nah bro. That’s a nollie frontside 180

I hate it I hate it I hate it. It should be called the opposite. My brain hates this so much. If I turn front it should be right. How can it be a front side carve but a backside gr8nd at the same time it makes no sense whoever thought of these terms was high on ketamine

too much for me.

3:09 got your nollie rotations backwards fam. that's a nollie front side shuvit. Ditto 3:42, nollie FRONTSIDE 180. You are doing a front shuv but mirrored off the nose with the feet reversed. It uses all the same muscle movements to scoop the board to rotate around behind you as a normal front shuv, if you were switch that'd be a switch front shuv. Because your foot is scooping forwards its a front shuv, that doesn't change just because you're doing it nollie. Front shuv = hard, back shuv = easy, you cant cheat that just coz you nollied it. A hard flip doesn't become a varial kickflip just because you nollied it. Trick first > stance second. Every stance follows this but for some reason you cooked it with nollies? Remember this: a "hardflip", is a kickflip and a FRONT SIDE shuvit. Its called a "hardflip" because you have to flip off the same direction the board spins and that is HARD, that DOES NOT CHANGE when it's nollie. Varial kickflip is a kickflip and a backside shuvit (normal pop shuvit) and that is CONSIDERABLY easier, why would nollie change that? Nollie hardflips and inward heelflips are not magically easier, you just got your spins backwards. Don't look at the way you're going, look at what you're doing, if you have to push/scoop the tail out infront of you, its a frontside spin; if you flick the tail behind you, its a backside spin; doesn't matter if its normal or switch and that's all MIRRORED in nollie/fakie.

I learned the basics of fs and bs from playing skate 3. Turns out their whole fakie/switch trick naming is totally wrong tho. I expect better from them

Nope you lost me, its both the same for me