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@StephCarolАй бұрын
" The more I know, the less I know." -Justin Sung -Intelligent people acknowledge they don't know a lot. It's called humility...
@nirmalajayaraman175412 күн бұрын
The content you deliver is highly useful for me. While I want to enjoy it, I think the background music is giving me negative cognitive load. Love Your contents. ❤😃
@ssignment2 жыл бұрын
My professor always adviced when studying, do not force yourself to memorize but familiarize instead. Which means understand what you're studying not just reading. Works like a charm it helped me enjoy studying. It also helps if you simplify it to ur own understanding and lecture it to yourself.
@Wabbelpaddel2 жыл бұрын
Lol what a meme. How do you think one does understand?
@ssignment2 жыл бұрын
@@Wabbelpaddel comprehending or interpreting?
@Wabbelpaddel2 жыл бұрын
@@ssignment Comprehending, precisely.
@MyAQWorlds1232 жыл бұрын
Yeahh familiarize all the sign and symptoms of a particular disease plus its quantitative tests/values pluss the other diseases with similar results with a quite small fraction of difference. Idk, its quite hard not to memorize all these values/related tests (plus its reference range/normal value) especially all the quantitative part.
@koohletit14532 жыл бұрын
Doesn't work when you can't understand anything lmao
@LuisFernando-yd3mx2 жыл бұрын
"You can't study 40 hours a day, no matter how lingling you are." Lol. I love this quote.
@davidzhou39672 жыл бұрын
the twosetviolin reference
@cjgreen43312 жыл бұрын
You fool, I am able to
@aywang75482 жыл бұрын
@@cjgreen4331 I study -40 hours a day. I am unbeatable at this. You know, I am suffering from this success. So I wanted to change that's why I am here
@adan44772 жыл бұрын
What's lingling?
@stonzykinga.n13542 жыл бұрын
@@adan4477 he's referring to asians
@agravemisunderstanding9668 Жыл бұрын
In summary: he's not saying active recall is worthless and that you shouldn't use it, he's saying that you should use it but you have to encode things as well. To encode something you have to actually engage with the things you are studying, (if you feel bored your doing it wrong) (If it's hard your doing it right)
@AusJapan Жыл бұрын
If you spell it 'your' you're doing it wrong. If you spell it 'you're', you're doing it right.
@damianwildman49366 ай бұрын
@@AusJapan This is the wrong way to correct someone, be nice!
@e-genieclimatique Жыл бұрын
in brief: The video titled "Why Active Recall and Spaced Repetition Don't Work" by Justin Sung is a comprehensive discussion on the limitations of the popular study techniques, active recall and spaced repetition. Here's a summary of the key points: 1. **Cognitive Load**: Justin explains that cognitive load, the mental effort required to learn new information, is a crucial part of effective learning. If you're studying and not experiencing cognitive load, your study technique may not be efficient. 2. **Encoding**: Encoding is the process of moving information into long-term memory. It's a difficult process that requires specific techniques and a lot of effort. When your encoding skills improve, you can understand concepts faster, retain information longer, and enjoy studying more. 3. **Active Recall and Spaced Repetition**: These techniques work by adjusting the forgetting curve, which describes how quickly we forget information after learning it. By repeatedly recalling information, we can slow down the rate at which we forget it. However, these techniques have diminishing returns and can become monotonous and time-consuming. 4. **Neuroplasticity**: Justin emphasizes that anyone can improve their encoding skills due to neuroplasticity, the brain's ability to reorganize itself by forming new neural connections. This means that even if you're not naturally "book smart," you can train your brain to become more efficient at learning and retaining information. 5. **Dunning-Kruger Effect and Success Bias**: Justin discusses these two psychological phenomena to explain why active recall and spaced repetition are so popular, despite their limitations. The Dunning-Kruger effect describes how people with limited knowledge on a subject can feel overly confident about their understanding of it. Success bias refers to the tendency to focus on successful outcomes and overlook failures. 6. **Availability Bias**: This is the tendency to judge the legitimacy of something based on how commonly we encounter it. Because active recall and spaced repetition techniques are commonly discussed and promoted, many people believe they are more effective than they actually are. 7. **Potential for Improvement**: Justin encourages viewers to keep an open mind and believe in their potential for improvement. He suggests that if active recall and spaced repetition aren't working for you, it may be because you're focusing too much on these techniques and not enough on improving your encoding skills. 8. **Course Offering**: Justin mentions his course where he works with students to improve their encoding skills and build a seamless study system. In conclusion, while active recall and spaced repetition are useful techniques, they are not the be-all and end-all of effective studying. Improving encoding skills and understanding the cognitive load can lead to more efficient and enjoyable studying.
@4aces72 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@inthegoodbooks Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. So, in conclusion, nothing that's directly useful is said in this video..
@deab1253 Жыл бұрын
Every few years, I open one of these videos and remember why it's such a fucking waste of time to watch them.
@abujessica Жыл бұрын
ChatGPT vibes
@James-kr8xm Жыл бұрын
@@abujessica Claude 2 more likely or summarize tech
@luiseduardogauer62012 жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil I have an extension project in my college called "Learning Support Project". One of the most important advice that we give to our students is: you need to acquire the information before being able to retrieve it and study through spaced repetition with active recall. In 2016, a study called "Learning Strategies: a synthesis and conceptual model" came up with a new model of what is learning. Spaced repetition and retrieval practice were framed into the "consolidation" phase of learning. The problem is people using spaced repetition and retrieval practice before properly encoding the information through lectures, discussions and another active "acquiring" learning methods. One important point though is to not discourage the use of retrieval practice under spacing effect. The majority of our educational institutes are embedded in traditional techniques that doesn't improve the students capacity of retaining important things. The currently system ignores that there are more than 130 years of research in this area and the evidences are pretty consolidated. For me, a better title for this video is: "How to properly use spaced repetition and active recall". Thank you for the wonderful content!
@MoroccanInJapan2 жыл бұрын
On the spot. 👍
@Naoseinaosei2132 жыл бұрын
As you probably know, to acquire a language you must use inputting strategies,like listening and reading. People need to realize that any knowledge works similar to a language. You must listen and read before being able to retrieve . Eu sou brasileiro também. que Deus abençoe.
@Naoseinaosei2132 жыл бұрын
Repetição ativa e passiva de forma espaçada ao longo do tempo. Assistir uma aula hoje, depois de um tempo assitir outra aula, mas de outro professor. Enfim. Trazer a Repetição espaçada para o âmbito do estudo passivo.
@Naoseinaosei2132 жыл бұрын
I thank god the usa for creating the internet. Without it, life would be harder, for sure.
@vale25rojas992 жыл бұрын
omg I’ve never been able to use a lot of spaced repetition and active recall in my studing routine because I need to process the information first, and youtubers never talk about that. I can’t immediately after a lecutre start using active recall. I feel seen now 🤣
@zeny60382 жыл бұрын
Basically Active Recall and Spaced Repetition is not the cheatcode you guys think it is. Mix it up, your brain needs it.
@aqmi2 жыл бұрын
Omg thanks cus the I was already dreading watching a 41 minute video
@jason_v123452 жыл бұрын
No, basically spaced repetition of poorly encoded information is insufficient. You need to incorporate effective wording, explanatory and sensory details, mnemonics, etc., into your flashcards or whatever. Otherwise, the required number of repetitions will consume too much time.
@aestaetic7882 жыл бұрын
@@jason_v12345 That's needed in normal studying methods also if you can't remember somthn without too many revision you should make mnemonics and stuff like that.. I want to know how active recall and spaced repetition failed cz I'm relying on it
@rileygshep76062 жыл бұрын
For me, If I cannot explain this stuff to a 5 year old, I proves to me that I haven’t learnt it, I have not broken it down far enough and simplified it
@abhayraj41892 жыл бұрын
@@aestaetic788 No They are not flawed, You can continue
@jamesdavies5712 Жыл бұрын
Hi Justin. I'm 53, have never been academic, and am halfway through my first trimester at Uni studying law. It's been terrifying, completely overwhelming, and the hardest thing I have ever attempted. I started researching techniques to overcome overwhelm on KZfaq and found your videos. I'm not even sure if I'm doing them correctly, but I've found that suddenly, the confusion, terror, and overwhelm have disappeared. I have so much more clarity and focus when I study. The constant anxiety has been replaced by curiosity, pleasure, and confidence. I've enrolled on your course and am really looking forward to getting started with the eventual outcome, that I can teach other people in the same position as me, who have always considered themselves as inherently, incapable of being academic, that it is totally possible with the right techniques. Thank you so much for your help, and I look forward to starting your program.
@Cube_Box Жыл бұрын
Hey! One month later, how is it going? Was the course worth it?
@jamesdavies5712 Жыл бұрын
@@Cube_Box Hi Cube Box. I actually didn't start the course. I started learning meditation and was amazed at the difference it made. I went from studying 60 - 70 hours per week to 20 and still got excellent results. I've found that meditation gets me in the perfect mind space for learning and cuts out the stress. I'm going to enrol on Justin's course over the summer holidays to give me extra time to practice his techniques.
@jamesdavies5712 Жыл бұрын
@E B Hi EB. No, I didn't do the course. I started meditating and found it extremely beneficial to my studies and other areas of my life. I finished my first trimester at University studying Law. I passed my courses easily but realised I didn't enjoy the subject so have switched to a general studies degree. I really enjoy meditation and the benefits it brings, and want to concentrate on teaching this in the future.
@goodbrian96949 ай бұрын
If you did do the course of the summer holidays, how have you found it, I’m thinking of engaging with this course as I think I heavily rely on active recall which is very very time consuming
@leahj1392 жыл бұрын
I learned to learn (was taught the technique of how to learn) via scaffolding. The idea is that you learn new information by relating it to knowledge you already have. You connect new information to old information which is in your long term memory. I'm not sure exactly how that fits into your model but I do know it has nothing to do with spaced repetition and I do know it's worked well for me.
@mohannedjamal94712 жыл бұрын
I always add “WHY?” or “HOW?” or “VS WHAT?” at the end of my flash cards to make sure that I have deeply learned that piece of information instead of just memorizing it, I guess this is why anki workes so well for me.
@PHlophe2 жыл бұрын
Mo Jamal, Mashallah, i am trying it now and it keeps me on track , i mean at least for now. Now that Ramadan is complete my brain is back to its normal 100% function. its hard over the past 32 days.
@The9thDoctor2 жыл бұрын
I've never really studied in my life, but I'm getting to a point in my life where i can't just succeed without active studying. This video was very helpful, thanks man
@DhrithionVocals2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@JoelMccandless Жыл бұрын
Same here, I am an ex-college athlete who made it through school by the skin of my teeth. I am at a point in my life where I have to study hard and I am struggling to learn. I graduated college and was super confident but I am now trying to really learn.
@jdp0359 Жыл бұрын
What I find most interesting is we've all gone to school, but very few of us know how to learn.
@fluttzkrieg4392 Жыл бұрын
@John School doesn't teach us how to study. It simply teaches us what happens when we don't.
@jameschristopher2540 Жыл бұрын
@@jdp0359 a few know how to learn but like op I've also never studied. In fact I've only ever done studying before exams and it caused me to fail more than anything (it helped a bit too).
@nibirnandi43442 жыл бұрын
Video starts 5:22..... studying vs learning 7:54 irony 8:35 memory 11:04 what happens whole answering questions 15:20 cognitive load Cognitive for me: playing information with what im learning at that moment..... Not just watching a chess game but also actively engaging with the possible turns... 22:38 23:30 fighting the forgetting curve, How repeating compound effected information will suck 24:46 29:59 dunning Kruger effect.....AA being screwed uppp indectly 😁 33:02 😂😂😂
@thebatmanwhokills98412 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving my time
@nibirnandi43442 жыл бұрын
@@thebatmanwhokills9841 my pleasure
@itisrekt2 жыл бұрын
@@nibirnandi4344 vary op man
@RameshKumar-ng3nf2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot 🙏. You save lots of my time 🙏
@ticketforlife21032 жыл бұрын
nigga didn't provide any fucking solution.
@ABB14-112 жыл бұрын
There's always so much material to go through, when I tried revising and active recall I ended up not having enough time to to do spaced repetition properly. It didn't help that other parts of my life were suffering. After a couple of semester with disappointing results and declining mental health, I just accepted that my performance would be mediocre forever and that I was probably going to take longer to learn the things I wanted to. This gives me hope.
@ErraticOverthinker Жыл бұрын
Ye,when I first heard of this so called spaced repetition, I was like: Bro, I don't have that much time. I much prefer to schedule a mock exam a week before the actual exam. With all the questions I wrote on a notebook while studying, I answer them one by one, If I see that I missed on one I revise it. At the end, I will repeat again all the questions, If some of them I struggle I highlight it. Since I have a week last, I can dedicate 10 mins or when I got sometime to revise those which I suck at. I do mock exams only on weekends, the rest of the days I do the understanding of the unit and make a list full of questions. If you have a lot of exams I advice to do a scheme on a paper of what enters in each exam, try doing as many partitions of the unit you need, then place them on a calendar. Hope it helps. 💜
@jameschristopher2540 Жыл бұрын
@@ErraticOverthinker so when you do a partition on the units do you study the segmented bits the same way. So understanding the unit for the week days and testing yourself for the weekend. Do you go back to it later? Or do you move onto the next bit on your calender?
@_anime_shawty7654 Жыл бұрын
this is my problem too. I just don't understand space repetition
@kulturalkontrariankomedy2 жыл бұрын
You're the first person who has pointed out how everyone just creates a confirmation bias about it and some kind of cycle where it only works for everyone that talks about it. It made me feel like bad about it not working for me at some point so I appreciate your point. You're always so clear and concise. I absolutely love your videos.
@TwistedSoul20022 жыл бұрын
Maybe only getting 2-3 hours of sleep every night for 10 months was the real issue…
@-danR2 жыл бұрын
I'm staggered by the number, and not infrequently the intelligence, of people who are members of the spaced repetition Anki cult. I appreciate just the mere _title_ of this video. It should stop a few well-meaning people in their tracks, at least for a moment.
@marthas92552 жыл бұрын
@@-danR If you don't anki, your method is invalid and you're also invalid because you didn't sweat as hard as we did! Mother fuckers so prideful when they are the stupid ones lol Vindicated only by their sheer numbers... oh no, I didn't remember trivia, I must be completely wrong about everything. It's such a tiresome lifelong battle with those bastards.
@HassanAhmed-rf9xr2 жыл бұрын
@@-danR He didn't even go into detail about the greater approaches. There are comments all over the place about how important it is to understand the content. Discussions, lecture summaries, making conclusions, and evaluating info are all part of the process. Interpreting is the process of determining what something's intended meaning is. And to understand entails knowing what something means. If your reading a book, you'd take it as what you believe it means or what you know it means. That is understanding. The distinction between interpretation (generate, deduce, acquire, analyse, uncover, perceive, evaluate, assume, derive, conclude, insinuate, interpret, discern, surmise, extrapolate or decoding into your won words then retrieving said information) and understanding (process of comprehension or comprehending, conceptual understanding, absorbing the knowledge. Time where clarity and explanation is needed and you pay attention. More elaboration or better yet ... encoding into your brain) is that interpretation is an act or process of applying general principles or formulae to the explanation of results obtained in special cases, Whereas comprehension is reason or intelligence, the ability to grasp the full (entire scope, exact & full implications, the correct or intended meaning and true context of the lecture for example. To be able get the real essence, deep value and true significance of the message. What is the relevance or origin of this part? The exact nature or underlying purpose. Whether semantic, symbolic or cultural. Finding the hidden meaning and delving deeper.. ) meaning of knowledge, and the ability to infer. The distinction between interpretation and understanding is that interpretation is the ability to explain, whereas understanding is the ability to empathise (relate, connect, engage, listen, think, interact and communicate effectively). The distinction between interpretation and understanding as nouns is that interpretation is an act of interpreting or explaining what is unclear (obscure, unclear. ambiguous, uncertain, confusing, incomprehensible, vague, equivocal), whereas understanding is a translation (paraphrasing, to transcript/convert to written form, transmission of the info your thoughts and experience), a version, or a construction. While understanding is a cognitive and often emotional procedure, integration is a subjective process. The ability to make inferences from an idea that you are familiar with is interpretation. One shows your knowledge more application, the other is not only getting the knowledge but retaining it by looking at the meaning. Then interpret or summarise what you know after taking your notes. Repeat or lecture yourself on what you understood. Interpreting is the action that comes from understanding the knowledge. Comprehension is knowing the full meaning and fathom all this data. At that level of expertise you have near perfect level of understanding and are then able to teach to others at a similar level. You don't read from a book and regurgitate but showcase what you already know. The ability to explain: demonstrate/show/share/define then incorporate Learning is different to studying. Ok we get that. One is a way or preferably a technique/method in order to learn. Learning is what happens when you grasp the things you've been studying. Learning in some subjects can differ like in language (in the procedure of developing your knowledge and memorization, phonological awareness and probably phonemic awareness) or other more complex but in a way "Maths is sometimes harder to grasp but once you've got it, its easy and you know the same type of things come up each year + loads of past papers etc. English Lit is subjective and so often down to a bit of luck, you can get a nasty question and you're totally screwed." Math may be easier to understand but much harder to learn. Once you've got the hang of it then you are set. English however will always be harder to understand but easier to learn. Once you grasp the basics you can learn more grammar and words but the way the pronunciation works or how to write in a creative way will still be a challenge. More subjective doesn't necessarily mean better in fact it might be worse. Math follows an extremely strict set of principles/rules and is often seen as another language. The issue, in my view, arises from all of the learning gaps that exist throughout the math language. I appreciate the challenge of writing more as I mature in terms of creative viewpoint and critical thinking. Grammar is complicated and contains rules, yet they change with time and in response to culture. Writing also includes an element of art, which makes it more 'difficult' because it isn't quantitative and can't be broken down to its basics like math can. The nicest part about math for me is that there is a clear solution almost every time, but writing has less rights and wrongs, making it more difficult to interpret. Math is useful when I require a specific solution, and its quickness provides me a feeling of achievement. Writing, on the other hand, is both an escape and a method of communicating beyond words for me. I'm fascinated by how words can conjure up so much more than plain communication. It's possible that the consequences it can have on others will never be known, which adds to the difficulties.
@nikokoro58622 жыл бұрын
@@-danR you make it sound like his proposed method strictly excludes spaced repetition like Anki. It's not one or the other but a combination of both, tho the latter could simply serve as a supplement.
@mrunalkelkar44422 жыл бұрын
It feels like the gold was burried beneath my feet all along... Note to self - Nothing can replace the actual effort...as in spending quality time pondering over a topic, asking myself questions,determining the the language of a subject and really visualising the big picture. And after all the basic ground work is done...use appropriate technique that suits the topic/subject/question paper format! Thank you for this amazing video!!
@WorldofTai2 жыл бұрын
@whats up facts
@marthas92552 жыл бұрын
My concept was, understand blueprint then you can discern the answers and aid in memorising seemingly disjointed data. And they all said you're thinking too much lol
@ralphwbms Жыл бұрын
I've been studying learning technics for a while now, and that's what I've found: - Sleep well - no sleep = no long-term memory (LTM). - Do exercises - go for a walk, work out, anything that you like. - Have a healthy diet. - Do not rush the study, spread it throughout the days. The brain needs time to organize the new patterns, chunk them, and move to the LTM. When this is done, your working memory can rely on new chunks of knowledge that will allow more complex subjects to be learned. - Use some space repetition software to help you organize the revisions, otherwise, you are going to forget it - you can make this less necessary if you can engage more emotionally in the study. - Have a proper space free of distractions for studying. - Use the pomodoro technic. - Teach others or just write an article about the subject. - Practice, practice, and more practice.
@newkidontheblock772 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, because he did make good points but ultimately did not explain what else to do beside space repetition and active recall
@panchofenix9912 Жыл бұрын
i thought meditation, dopamine detox, gamefying studying and learning your mental problems (like adhd, gifted kid syndrome or others) was going to be on the list too 🥺
@ralphwbms Жыл бұрын
@@panchofenix9912 I have never tried meditation to check how effective it would be for me, but from what I heard, it's very effective if you can't concentrate well. Dopamine detox; I've done it once when I was procrastinating my studying routine a lot, and it was very effective. I've never tried gamefying my learning routine, but I have used some e-learning sites that does that and it is very effective indeed. I have no experience with mental problems, but I'm sure many people would benefit from hacks in this area. Thanks for commenting and happy studying :)
@ralphwbms Жыл бұрын
@@newkidontheblock772 I'm glad you liked it :)
@technowey2 жыл бұрын
There is memorization and there is conceptualization. For memorization, a term called “chunking,” which is similar to “encoding” is useful. People who memorize large amounts of information quickly usually use a “peg system” and create “memory palaces”. Search for those terms. Repetition allows moving information into long-term storage in the brain. Conceptualization requires understanding relationships. It often means applying known mental models to other situations. Memory palaces work because our brains naturally deal with moving through space.
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
CLICK READ MORE FOR A SUMMARY OF ALL THE POINTS: Leave your questions and comments here and I'll try to answer them and explain further. I will be releasing NUMEROUS videos about how to do the encoding with demonstrations and examples. By the time you watch them all, I think you'll understand why trying to fit them into this video would just be insanely crammed. VIDEO SUMMARY: - Studying is not the same as learning - Studying is physical while learning is a cognitive process - Studying techniques that produce low learning are time consuming - Different techniques invoke different levels of learning - Memory going into longterm memory is called encoding - Level of encoding determines a significant amount of retention - Retrieving memory from longterm to working memory in order to use it for applications is called retrieval - Information that is in working memory instead of long term is forgotten very quickly - Active recall and spaced repetition work through adjusting the forgetting curve only through repetition - This is only working on retrieval aspect of memory only - This doesn't help with encoding - Encoding would reduce the knowledge decay of the forgetting curve to reduce the number of repetitive revisions and relearning sessions needed, therefore saving lots of time - Proper encoding also makes learning more enjoyable and engaging - Techniques that cause poor encoding and use low cognitive load are called passive techniques - A sign of passive learning is sleepiness - Techniques that cause high learning through appropriate cognitive load are called active learning techniques. There are many. - Low retention studying due to poor encoding is unsustainable to fix with repetition based techniques - Encoding involves cognitive load - Cognitive load feels uncomfortable and confusing - This is partially why so few students use encoding techniques - Another reason retrieval techniques like active recall and spaced repetition are so common is due to the Dunning Kruger effect where low knowledge causes high confidence - This combines with success bias whereyou don't hear about the failure stories - This then combines with availability bias where we define legitimacy by how common we are exposed to it - This creates a spiral of unknowledgeable people creating videos about common techniques that are not as effective as they claim, making it more available, increasing its perceived legitmacy - Considering that encoding is naturally difficult, this makes encoding techniques very uncommonly talked about ALSO, join my Discord community here! discord.gg/8Ez7k2C69k Video on encoding here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMmEa9Omsdaye3U.html
@thatoneuser86002 жыл бұрын
you say that encoding would reduce number of revisions and lengthen the forgetting curve, but doesn't Anki help you do this by letting you set longer intervals after each successful rep? We call this phenomenon "expanded intervals". I have mine set to 10 minutes, 1 day, then 6 days, then 15 days so that I set the forgetting curve, allowing myself to forget, which then makes it harder to get it successful the next time. If I don't get it right, then the interval resets back to 10 minutes until I've "mastered" or "graduated" it. This helps with remembering as trying to remember something once I've forgotten something I've learnt before is fairly difficult, and thus the extra brain power helps me remember it better later on, strengthening the neutral connection.
@danielbisogno69672 жыл бұрын
@@thatoneuser8600 You're still fighting the forgetting curve though. Could you recall that information in 6 months or longer after you've graduated a 15 day card? Maybe a few cards will pass that test, but there will be a lot of details that you would've forgotten. And past that, you're still only learning the information at a very superficial level - that is how to recall it. If you understand it at a deeper level (how to apply it, creating things with that information, etc) it will stick around much longer because it's a logical process that has an explanation and reasoning. I'd bet that you'll be able to tell me what happens if I drop a pen, eraser, book or keyboard - they'll all fall to the ground, yet you don't know anything about the dimensions of those specific objects. It's because you know about the broader more abstract idea that connects this example together - gravity. To remember those details with flashcards you'd have to create flashcards like this: Q) What happens when I drop a pen, eraser, book or keyboard? A) They all fall to the ground. or: Q) What are some objects that fall to the ground once dropped? A) A pen, eraser, book and keyboard. It'll get the job done and you'll be able to recall that information, but now you're in an exam and you see the question "If I throw a cup, what happens to that cup?" Suddenly you don't have information about cups or throwing (only dropping). So while you may be fighting the forgetting curve in the short term, there's no need to fight the forgetting curve when you logically understand it because you can derive that information from the broader concepts or ideas. By the way, I used to be a flashcard manic and everything that went into my brain went through Anki first, so I'm not just being a hater. It took me a while to accept that flashcards aren't the be all end all of studying - especially in biology-type subjects where you'd think that all you're doing is learning facts and recalling information. Rote-learning is a part of education, but it can definitely be kept to a minimum or implemented through different means than flashcards (memory palace, personal mnemonic devices, etc). This isn't designed to be an attack, but just to help give you a new perspective that flashcards are a good start, but they are only a small piece of a more intricate studying arsenal you can equip. Flash cards have their use as a supplementary tool, but they are not primary techniques.
@thatoneuser86002 жыл бұрын
@@danielbisogno6967 "You're still fighting the forgetting curve though. Could you recall that information in 6 months or longer after you've graduated a 15 day card? Maybe a few cards will pass that test, but there will be a lot of details that you would've forgotten." At that point, if I really forgot it then I would just look it up, but usually I still know most of the details at that point. The forgetting curve is basically innate in all of us, so we're always going to be fighting it unless you do an unnecessary amount of extra repetitions that would be very time consuming, and for that, I still prefer expanded intervals, as it's very efficient. Efficiency also might not mean 100% coverage, but the coverage is excellent enough. "Q) What are some objects that fall to the ground once dropped? A) A pen, eraser, book and keyboard." I see these as examples, which are helpful to remind yourself how to apply the theoretical knowledge, but on their own, these types of cards are very insufficient. Instead, I mainly aim at the theoretical knowledge where that underlying concepts and specificities lie, where I'll then add some example cards like this to help if I think it would benefit. The theoretical/academic knowledge is mainly where my application of my knowledge comes from, and example cards like the one you just made just stimulates that ability even more if the concept is on the more difficult side for me. I also never write basic flash cards anymore - cloze cards are much superior imo as they allow me to add hints and make multiple cards out of one flashcard, and they also provide much greater flexibility, allowing me to wrap multiple concepts into one cloze card in one flashcard for better understanding of the material. "Flash cards have their use as a supplementary tool, but they are not primary techniques. " I think flash cards are very abstract/general in essence, so for studying, they can definitely be primary techniques. However, for learning, they're definitely not - I make sure I take the time to actually understand the content before making flashcards out of them, so that I have a big picture thinking that is essential for applying that knowledge later on.
@danielbisogno69672 жыл бұрын
@@thatoneuser8600 Alright man if you're really into flashcards then keep at it. I'm not gonna convince you otherwise. I just wanted to share a perspective with you and mostly do my best to elaborate on what Justin is teaching. In terms of my actual response, big picture understanding is good. I think the angle Justin is getting at is the idea of encoding vs. retrieval with this flashcard approach in that instead of just practicing retrieval you want to integrate encoding into your revision such that you really learn this stuff well and create strong retention that not only allows for full retrieval but also advanced application so that you'll remember it for longer and can apply it more diversely. This high encoding makes it so that you don't have to revise it so much (3 times could be all you need) which saves you time. Again, if you are enjoying your flashcards and they're working for you then great, but here's how I'd do it differently - I'd think about revising the information 3 or 4 different ways instead of the same way 3 or 4 times (the Anki way). Examples: 1) Create and answer questions about the information that enhances what you know about the info you're recalling. 2) Create analogies about the information (connecting multiple ideas together). 3) Teach the information in a way that is extremely simple (such that you could sum up an hour lecture in 5 minutes) then teach it again but expanded a little bit (an hour lecture in 20 minutes). 4) Create a memory palace/story associated with the information (and draw it if possible). 5) Create mnemonics that make sense to me (and are crazy and absurd) (if it's a rote learning thing). 6) Create really difficult exam style questions about the information that require you to create new logic with that information and investigate how to answer such a tricky question (maybe try and apply one concept to another concept and explain why you can't do that or why it wouldn't work, etc). Ideally this shouldn't take you too long too and you would want to space it out in such intervals: 1 day, 1 week, (optional 2 weeks) and then a month. So that's only three (maybe four) revisions for awesome retention. We're both using spaced repetition and active recall but in different ways. If your way works very well for you that's fine, it's just that Justin teaches revision in a different way for the reasons he mentions in his video (enhanced encoding which in turn results in less revision time). I'm starting to get a bit out of my depth here, so I probably can't elaborate on too much more because I'm still learning these ideas, but this is my response.
@Satyaprakash__19292 жыл бұрын
JUSTIN I WANT A BIT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE POINT AS FOLLOWS... 1)Then why in ali abdaal's video the RESEARCH showed that making summary is a primitive techniques than active Recall....?? As i think it yes used cognitive load....while connecting dots and summarie by relating etc...Please DO REPLY IN utube shorts ..
@jason_v123452 жыл бұрын
Really what you're discussing is the ineffectiveness of spaced repetition *of poorly encoded information*. It's not the spaced repetition itself that is "the problem." Indeed, spaced repetition is an absolute requirement for remembering anything. There is no avoiding it. But if the information you're repeating is poorly encoded (i.e., the flashcard or whatever is poorly worded, lacks sensory or explanatory details, mnemonics, etc.) then you will have to repeat it too often to keep up with all you need to learn.
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
Yes you've basically got it. The main issue I have is that deep processing is RARELY talked about although the benefits of deep processing and cognitive load optimisation are more riobustly evidence-based than using spaced retrieval practice. There is a popular movement of active recall and spaced repetition being the top level technique, which is why that's the statement I opened the video with.
@nikalobjanidze53022 жыл бұрын
That is why you should make questions on your own which will be comprehensible and then repeat...
@jibreel17882 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving me 40 mins of padding
@pan2aja2 жыл бұрын
Ha !! You wasted 40 minutes of your life !
@jacobhatfield7642 жыл бұрын
Basically, in most cases, owning the information instead of hard-coding is more effective. That said, spatial memory is still crucial for organizing thoughts (aka memory palaces) because if you truly understand the course materials, you can also know what sources need to be purely memorized. As someone that uses the PAO system (something I rarely use but still have on the off chance it's needed) I have found it better to have and not use than need and not have.
@themortalriver565 Жыл бұрын
I can't even say how grateful I am for this video. It's immensely refreshing to see an actual expert who has dedicated their career to a subject create an in-depth comprehensive video about it. I know some folks complain about the length, but just because we are trained by modern social media to want everything in a minute or less with highlight reels, doesn't mean that we should cut out actual real information. Context and data take time. I have watched so many videos about studying from 'gurus' who are really just influencers who made it their job to make money online. It is rare to see a video from an expert who does this for a living, and then decided to make videos to share the knowledge or increase their reach. I also appreciate that you made a point to encourage students that if these other techniques aren't working, it doesn't mean they are bad students, or dumb, etc., and that there is hope.
@unknowns78 Жыл бұрын
The so called "gurus" are also capable of giving useful informations. I'm just saying you don't need a degree to know effective study methods. There are also always some people having this opinion and some others even expert trust me. At the end of the day let's all be thnakful for even getting those advice for free and always remember if it doesn't work for someone doesn't mean they are incapable. I never heard someone ever say that but maybe people interpret too much. Anyways i just wanted to add that here (not really a debate comment will probably not respond) Take care
@Das0000 Жыл бұрын
I am think just like you. And I hope he has more videos about this. I started to thinking that my flashcards with included space repetition doesn’t work so so well, it is definitely helpful but maybe not of the best technique as he said. It helped a lot but also it tikes time and I think sometimes it doesn’t work so well for remembering everything.
@gcg8187 Жыл бұрын
Tldr
@Nico55RS Жыл бұрын
Recently finished med school, some thoughts I had: you can learn without anki (forced spaced repetition on schedule), but whatever technique you employ it will use spaced repetition (you need to review information as some point and at more than one interval). I think there is a sweet spot when it comes to using apps like Anki and true learning. I like using textbooks to make my cards. My approach was to read a few sections or chapter in its entirety, highlight import concepts, and then solidify my understanding. Once I had a good grasp, I would make flashcards (anki) of all the highlighted material and in the extra section of the card, would add my thoughts and understanding. In this way you get spaced repetition, but you can always reference your extra information should you forget your true understanding of something. Also, when using Anki, its important to actually THINK about the card rather than just answer it. If you employ that strategy, its highly effective, as you are always challenging yourself to think critically about the subject material while also using the spaced repetition algo of anki to only show you the material again when you really need to. Prior to med school I didn't use anki and did great, but the amount of information was far less and I still used spaced repetition, but in a more manual fashion. I would start by writing down a topic and then proceed to write everything i knew about it until I hit a wall. This forced me to find my deficiencies and then I would read more and then attempt the process again later in the day. TLDR: Using spaced repetition/ANKI is all about HOW you use it. If you mindlessly do flashcards, you won't learn. If you force yourself to think about the material and check if you truly understand, then you'll do great and you'll actually learn. I've used anki to successfully remember cardiovascular pathophysiology since my first year of med school and I owe it to dedicated reading of material and integrating this into spaced repetition.
@_anime_shawty7654 Жыл бұрын
Say if you got 1000 flashcards to read in a day, how do u read it without going mad?
@Nico55RS Жыл бұрын
@@_anime_shawty7654 The only time I had 1000+ cards due was in the depths of dedicated for Step which honestly is a time you just suck it up, drown yourself in caffeine, and smash that spacebar. The goal ultimately is to only have like a couple hundred at most cards to review everyday. I think you also just get faster reading cards overtime. That being said, is it really hard some days to even get through 100 cards? Absolutely, its definitely not a perfect system.
@metzgerone76616 ай бұрын
@@_anime_shawty7654 You should not read it all at once! Your studies should be distributed out over days or weeks depending on the amount of information!
@jaymerrill2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, Justin. My only qualm with your content is that you could be much more concise; I think you could fit all your points in a much shorter video. Also, it'd be nice to have an outline of your points somewhere so I wouldn't have to watch a long video only to find out that I knew most of what you would say anyway.
@swinxfee2 жыл бұрын
Please summarize it. This is whole damn episode.
@fenne55582 жыл бұрын
If you check his caption he has a written summary of his video in the comment section
@osirusj2752 жыл бұрын
But to be fair.. Its actually more informational than Jim kwik book...
@jeithrowagwag14252 жыл бұрын
Please do summarize this 41 minute video 😭 I don't think my easily distracted brain can commit to watching this whole
@victormponcec2 жыл бұрын
@@jeithrowagwag1425 He basically said that spaced repetition only helps you if you are not a good student, otherwise it takes a lot of effort giving little results. Which make the video pointless for most people, I guess. And promotes his teaching method and himself as a coach.
@gandhiva19532 жыл бұрын
Just watched this video. I am nearly 70. I am exploring new methods in learning. Though this is complicated it really interests me. I am excited and will be watching all your other videos.
@EDC.EveryDayCode2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear your working hard at that! So important at any stage in life, but definitely post-60s.
@GOLESALLMOMENT2 жыл бұрын
Never give up
@Zetsuke42 жыл бұрын
Lifelong learner, learn more today than you learned yesterday!
@mariam39402 жыл бұрын
your blue hair interests me.
@bouchranourelhouda2415 Жыл бұрын
In short : don't be stressed , don't focus on perfect retaining rather than good understanding on the subject , enjoy the journey and your studying It's easy said then done , but it's a fact that there's no perfect preparation for the exams , sometimes you have time to revise well and sometimes you just don't , some subjects are easier then the other and sometimes you'd stuck on the minor things
@manuell.5696 Жыл бұрын
no
@aurostar9805 Жыл бұрын
No
@dedopest3305 Жыл бұрын
no
@jameschristopher2540 Жыл бұрын
Uh no
@wiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Жыл бұрын
Que
@terjeoseberg990 Жыл бұрын
I’ve learned that the best way to learn is to understand things. If you don’t understand, it’s like memorizing random unrelated things. Understanding things puts the information together in a way that makes it easier to recall.
@hendrikusgarcia25262 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm a law student in Brazil and I've been trying to use the repetition spaced for months. In the beginning, it was wonderful and we started to get super excited. When I reached 5,000 flashcards my life started to get complicated. I spent hours and hours making flashcards and couldn't make much progress on new themes. The time came when I could only make flashcards, I no longer had time to learn new content. Your video was accurate on this spaced-repeat issue. I just signed up and I'm looking forward to the new videos.
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@zrhaque72552 жыл бұрын
I used mind-map
@jcm94972 жыл бұрын
There’s different ways of active recall i use blurting i used to do flashcards but i has the same problem as u bc of all the context u need to know theres not enough time to make every flashcard on each subject
@mariazigerlig98602 жыл бұрын
am a law student in switzerland and i also struggle with a lot of flashcards.. now i write notes from the power point slides and learn while summarizing the slides into my notes i guess..
@Zetsuke42 жыл бұрын
Nice
@adazingarchive8272 жыл бұрын
It’s so relieving to see this video! Before this whole craze about active recall , I never used Anki and just relied on my notes and deeply understanding and was doing very well . When I heard about these methods I suddenly felt that the way I was studying was totally wrong and that I should start using Anki like everyone does . I just ended up being frustrated by the end of it , it was unsustainable and very time consuming . This semester I decided to go back to what I originally loved and worked for me :)
@andrexpic972 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened to me.
@aleeysyafiona86932 жыл бұрын
so what is the actual way that you use ?
@andrexpic972 жыл бұрын
@@aleeysyafiona8693 Feynman Technique
@jjpanda2 жыл бұрын
@@andrexpic97 could you share how do you apply the Feynman technique? like do you have some kind of system for it (your process, etc)?
@mika2742 жыл бұрын
How do you remember the things you understand deeply. Especially if couldn't manage to get it down on notes
@grepgrok873510 ай бұрын
Summary: Stuff you remember (what you have "learned") only exists in long term memory (LTM) and you have to "encode" information from working memory to put it there (and you can't retrieve from LTM if it you haven't previously encoded it). In order to encode information into LTM, you need cognitive load. But be careful: too low (just hitting your head on the textbook or simply reading it) is usually an inefficient use of your time, too high and you can actually overload your brain's ability and do worse than some lower loads; ideally, you want to be right around your "load threshold" where it isn't easy, but it isn't super hard-just "a lil' confusing." The annoying thing about most study methods is that they are highly individualistic as the "good ones" are fine tuned to the load threshold of the person who created it; conversely, spaced repetition is very easy for anyone to just pick up as a study method. This is fantastic if you aren't already studying but has diminishing returns at higher levels (i.e. will bring an F -> C but B -> B+); the main problem at the higher levels is that spaced repetition can be repetitive, monotonous, and demoralizing because you aren't seeing the same returns you thought you would be. Similarly, (at least I think this is what he's saying) active recall methods are any methods that engage cognitive load, which will feel confusing and like you aren't actually learning (despite being a very good position for learning), and thus leads people away from those techniques. A better method for learning is to hold on to the material better in the first place with "neuroplasticity" (i.e. the brain's ability to restructure itself for more optimal memory) which is absolutely something that can be trained (see his other videos). Finally he goes on about why spaced repetition and active recall are so hyped up due to the dunning kruger effect making people misidentify their success, success bias where we don't hear about the failures of these methods, and availability bias where "everyone is saying this is good, so it must be good!", rinse and repeat. First off, please stop with the jaunty music over the long tangents. I see this all over the place on KZfaq and it only makes me feel like what you are saying is unimportant. Either cut the clip or leave the music out please. Second, I think you generally make some great points about learning vs studying and what that means. I definitely learned some very interesting things about cognitive load and how we encode information into LTM. I also think it is definitely sad that so much of StudyTube is devoted to recycling the same points in slightly different ways by different people, so thank you for actually bothering to be critical of these things. However, I have some criticisms of your argument. To start, you talk about how spaced repetition can be repetitive and a waste of time. I think this misses the idea of spaced repetition. If you are reviewing at points where it it is too easy and boring, you are reviewing too often and need to adjust the parameters of your algorithm to match your cognitive load (in Anki, this would be increasing the interval modifier or starting ease in the options). You actually hint to this idea in your cognitive load section with how boredom and sleepiness indicate too low of a cognitive load. Also, review at some point would still be a necessary step even by increasing your neuroplasticity because, as you directly graphed out in the summary section, you still end up with information loss which will need to be reviewed and regained (and in order to identify WHAT information you need to review, you will probably have to go through the boring process of reviewing everything). Finally, you don't touch quite as much on active recall in the video as you do with spaced repetition but I think active recall (and the confusion associated with it) is an inevitable part of studying. As I just mentioned, because NO study method (including increased neuroplasticity) is perfect and you can, as you point out, never remember everything 100%, you will inevitably review eventually and the optimal forms are going to be active recall. Ultimately, I think the video is just a little misleading. I don't think you are actually trying to say that active recall and spaced repetition are bad as I think I might be initially understanding you, so much as to make clear the problems associated with these techniques and bring to light an underrated method which helps in limiting these downsides.
@karcavida32508 ай бұрын
I agree, especially with your point about the music, it is a bit jarring at times. I hope Justin fixes it lol
@smoocher Жыл бұрын
This should be mandatory viewing for anyone who needs to learn and remember significant amounts of information, whether it be in a school or workplace environment.
@panchofenix9912 Жыл бұрын
for me is justin sung, benjamin keep phd and healthygamergg (you also need to learn your limitations, specially problems like being diagnosed with something like adhd or something similar, so you can work around them to get a solution or something to compensate for that problem)
@eundongpark16722 жыл бұрын
this is great! I've done 2 degrees: one in my early 20s and the second in my mid 40s. One of the main differences between the two learning experiences was that, the second time, I had more life experience to use to engage with the information I was learning (more material to use to increase my cognitive load when studying). In exercises that involved straight up memorising - like memorising the script for a play for my Spanish class - I noticed the young kids were MUCH faster than me at memorising, but I could also see the kids weren't remembering material from the lectures or readings as well as me. In lectures and readings,I constantly evaluated the information, thinking about how it would have applied in my previous careers, questioning ambiguities and inconsistencies in the way information was presented etc. Because I was the same age as the professors and already had achieved professional success, I also felt more right to demand that my professors explain those apparent ambiguities and inconsistencies or gaps...which helped me stay engaged with the information as it was initially presented, and which helped encode it into long term memory. The kids in my classes were generally more passive in interacting with information. I think they had trouble "seeing" which information was important, they had very little existing framework of knowledge or experiencial memory to link with the new, incoming information.
@giselle88672 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly true for me as well in my 30s, though I did find that learning about how to properly use active recall and spaced repetition did help a lot as well. In fact, I would even go so far as to say it was game-changing. But I 100% agree that contextualizing the information makes it infinitely more meaningful and thus memorable. I also do have a much better intuition for the way my professors prioritize "important" concepts. I also have a much better idea of when professors are "phoning in" their responsibilities and not providing sufficient context or support or when they are just flat out wrong, because of my professional experience in the sciences, which is also the degree type I am pursuing. I think another aspect is that in my professional experiences I have my confidence boosted in times where I became a subject matter expert on a particular topic, to the extent I would train other professionals and be a "go-to" source. This indicated to me that "yes I am capable of knowing and retrieving a lot of detailed, high-level information". TL;DR: Your insight about having a framework to link and prioritize incoming information is something I hadn't considered and it is a great insight that also applies to this 30-something. :)
@eundongpark16722 жыл бұрын
@@giselle8867 I also understand what you mean by feeling you had intuition for how your professors were prioritising information. For my first degree, I have no memory of being able to detect what my professor would test, but during my 2nd degree I could easily tell what they thought was important, or what they'd be looking for in my assignments.
@sagemaster34082 жыл бұрын
One of those. “ I’m older than you so I know people “ huh. Jk.
@raymondmenz5222 жыл бұрын
@@eundongpark1672 Strongly agree. Top students know how to pass exams. Made friends with one of the top students at uni. He had studied law and had lectured at night. He was responsible for setting law exams. He said setting exams taught him how to study more than anything. Knowing what is important overrides everything. Its very important to study past exam papers. Only 20% of lectures are important and make up 80% of exam marks. I used to treat everything as important. Now I put 80% of my time into 20% of whats important. Just put 20% of your time into the 80% that is not important. Also everything you need to know for the exam will be in the lectures. A big mistake some students make is to go outside of the lectures - either too wide or to deep. Most students waste so much time on notes. I think this comes from the way they were taught in high school. A more time efficient way is to read and remember. I used to try to remember things "permanently". Now I just remember things for the exam. The amount of work at uni can be overwhelming. So time efficiency is very important. Remember a lot of people you meet at uni you will never see again. So they are not as important as you may feel at the time. Stay away from time wasters. They wont be there next year. To me the most important thing is to get your life sorted out. You cannot afford to have problems. If you sleep well you can study hard and concentrate well. Go to bed and get up the same time every day. The better you concentrate the more and easier you will remember information. The ability to keep going is more important than how smart you are. From experience I have learned I can turn a potential exam mark of 30 - 35% into 55 - 65% by one days very hard study. Ive failed exams I could have passed because I gave up.
@wandarichard18652 жыл бұрын
Hi Justin, I'm an old student returning back to college and, I have enjoyed watching and learning from you. I was reading some of the comments some good and of course some negative. As far as the negative comments it saddened me to think how humanity treats individuals who are putting themselves out there in order to help people improve their lives therefore, do not take these negative comments to heart these people are blind and bitter. Much health and prosperity. I for one will take your course. All learning has value.
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wanda! Slowly getting better at ignoring the haters :)
@aarvisingh35062 жыл бұрын
Yep , all this information you are giving to us is going to help a lot of people so please ignore the negative comments
@michellerocha82932 жыл бұрын
I am a Dietetics student and I really can relate with you Justin. I love learning, but I tend to forget easily, to compensate I study for hours and hours, to the point of just sleeping 2-3H per day as you, which is not healthy, I am stopping with that because I feel tired and is not productive. Been trying these space repetitions and active recalls, which works for awhile but I personally don't find it efficient. Simply because if I am fighting the forgetting curve I will be always needing on coming back and recall it again. Not efficient when you have new information coming up to you and trying to retrieve what you learned before. It's been really overwhelming even tho I have really good marks. Makes me feel overwhelmed if I will be ready to perfom great as a professional because of that. Defo will be open minded and using other methods such as yours. Happy that you decided to bring your knowlegde online.
@choochoo3041 Жыл бұрын
I am in university rn. I am having rough time reviewing for midterms/finals because of all of my long long take-year-to-read linear notes and not efficient space repetition technique. I searched YT and I found your hidden gem videos. It was such a pity that I did not come across your channel ages ago. This video of you completely changed my mind about note-taking. Thank you so much for your work, Dr.Sung. 🙏🙏🙏
@DAESHON212 жыл бұрын
I think you are highlighting just repetition “Active learning” is part of coding. You have to understand the concept you are learning to be able to actively retrieve it.
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
Active recall is not inherently something that improves encoding. It's possible to do active recall as part of maintenance rehearsal which is non-elaborative. There is a wide scope of how the technique can be applied and although there is research suggesting that active retrieval during initial studying sessions can improve encoding (which I personally agree with), most students do not apply active recall in these methods. Often the methods are incredibly passive and use only lower-order learning. I talk a bit more about these orders of learning in my latest video on encoding. Higher-order recall would certainly improve encoding, though it's arguable that active recall in itself relies on repetition, if not used in the context of the initial studying session.
@azhar_alhariri2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few times I have been thankful for the suggestions of KZfaq's algorithm😂 Thank you so much for this informative video, and looking forward for all the next!🤩
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment!
@dawne27802 жыл бұрын
I’m only seeing positive comments but wanted to say this felt like a trigger pitch to join your program. Anki and other spaced repetition programs always say, “you must understand a topic before it is helpful to have a flashcard of.” If you use anki to remind yourself of topics that you do use in your profession/daily life and when you see a card you think of related applications (or if it’s a foreign language word then using it in a sentence) then those techniques are incredible. The real problem is that students share decks with each other, and then rather than encountering the information on decks in books/real life, they just rote try to memorize things they don’t yet understand. This is bad practice, but I want to reiterate that Anki and other (good) tools don’t advice this!
@jekyllshyde5952 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in the research to which you refer (I do care about it, as it seems contrary to the research I’ve reviewed). In criticizing spaced repetition and active recall at the outset of the video, you related your own experience: you were sleeping very little as you used your flash cards 20 hours a day. You suggest that you poured all your energy into testing active recall and spaced repetition and it was ineffective. Your “test” result, however, had a tenuous connection to your approach. Your ineffectiveness likely arose from your sleeplessness. Sleep is so fundamental to the consolidation of new material in your long term memory. Even one hour of sleep deprivation has deleterious effects on your ability to remember, and can unwind other material that you had stored previously. Encoding is just the first step (admittedly, I’ve not yet seen what you mean by this term.) Doing the work. Spaced repetition. Repeating material to a point just before you feel comfortable with it. Switching from focussed study to diffuse daydreaming after about 30 minutes of study. Interleaving with unrelated material. Letting some time pass so as to allow a little forgetting. Testing (which is active recall). Objective assessment of your performance (by an ‘expert’ / mentor). Integrating that material into what you already know. Expounding on or contemplating other uses of the material. Building a new model of understanding. Testing that model. Tweaking your understanding to fit the test results. If you test / actively recall within an hour of learning the material, then a couple days later (after a small level of forgetting), then a week later, and finally about 3 weeks later, the forgetting basically stops. (NB: after testing, delay correction by a day, and then correct the errors that you had.)
@aayshafazalmohamed44892 жыл бұрын
Honestly!! FACED SAME ISSUES WITH ACTIVE RECALL AND FEELING LIKE NO ENOUGH TIME AND BLAMING ON MY SELF thinking it was all my fault, on top of that having all the content in my head was even more challenging having people addressing these issues is really helpful thanks for this long and super useful video:)
@dr.moneymagnet27702 жыл бұрын
Space repetition software like Anki, among others are cool and all, but it's just not for everyone. I'm currently a medical student here in the U.S. and I have a few classmates that swear by them, but for me it does not allow for the major concepts to stick in the short window given to prepare for exams and assessments. I know medical school nowadays is mostly about learning and regurgitating massive volumes of information at warp speed, within a minute amount of time but there has to be a better, longer lasting, more impactful way to absorb and maintain such a high level of information to implement into the repertoire for life long learning. Thanks a lot for this video, as it provides the assurance I really needed, in confirming that I am not alone when it comes to the fact that the active recall/spaced repetition sphere does not always yield successful results needed in the 'high stakes' world of medical school/medicine.
@DennisCNolasco4 ай бұрын
The key is actually attempting to understand what you’re studying, instead of just trying to memorize information. Justin’s method appears to use mind maps IIRC, but use whatever method you like to understand a concept and how it fits into the big picture.
@EmperorPenguinXRemas2 жыл бұрын
I use both active recall and spaced repetition, but the best in my opinion is using different modalities with active learning. Prediciting questions by learning deep strucuture of information works really well.
@jharedcruzada4792 жыл бұрын
As an almost exclusively visual learner, I have to say that your approach with TONS of imagery and examples was the only reason that I was able to really understand this interesting concept! (Not so much when I'm studying on my own out of a textbook) You've earned my sub, sir!
@apustajachileno2 жыл бұрын
There is not such a thing as "visual learner"
@jharedcruzada4792 жыл бұрын
@@apustajachileno Yes, I understand that’s true. I meant that it’s difficult for me to comprehend messages without any visual examples.
@aanjneyvishwakiran7097 Жыл бұрын
@@apustajachileno it's.. Ofcourse
@BBshark0002 жыл бұрын
"it comes into your face.... repeatedly" "thats..not the best wording I could've used" Yep. Subscribed.
@888katiechau2 жыл бұрын
This teaching on how to study should be taught to school everywhere especially starting from middle school or high school.
@benedikt0059 Жыл бұрын
To put it in a nutshell, Active Recall and Spaced Repetition (Anki) will just work if you encoded (really understood) the (more or less) basic concept of the topic you are learning. Therefore Anki will just help you remember the things you already understood and creates nerve tracts to actually retrieve the information easier. Just like a forest track that gets broader and wider every time you go trough it. However, this video is eye-opening for me as I spend much time getting to know with the psychology of learning. Well, as a German student I stumbled across the author Vera F. Birkenbihl who takes this basic ideas in her main book (Stroh im Kopf) and exemplifies the encoding process with many mnemonics. That could be very interesting for those who understand and speak German (I am a huge fan of her!) Thanks for the amazing work. I wish you all good look in your studying/learning process! Cheers
@thexnameich1667 Жыл бұрын
Does she have an English book ?i cannot speak German
@thexnameich1667 Жыл бұрын
Or can u tell me imp points of that book it will be great help
@lucie442 Жыл бұрын
I’m German and haven’t heard i Of that book or the author. Is it on Amazon? I live in the U.S.!
@andrexpic972 жыл бұрын
5th year med student here. I discovered Active Recall and Spaced Repetition 2 years ago and I decided to give Anki a chance. At first I thought I would become some sort of genius, because I was managing to memorize enormous amount of information, but after a few weeks the flashcards just became too many. I spent all day just revising old topics and I could not study the new ones. I tried using it with several exams, but I had to stop, because grades were getting worse than before. Anki is quite good for easy subjects with just a small amount of info to memorize, but it's almost impossible to use it efficiently for harder exams (Pharmacology or Phisiology for example). This was my experience. It was useful at first, but rapidly made things worse. This video is truly good content.
@cynthiacancado23152 жыл бұрын
hi, the same thing happened to me, do you have tips on how i can study for exams -- study tips :)
@andrexpic972 жыл бұрын
@@cynthiacancado2315 Right now I use Feynman Technique
@cynthiacancado23152 жыл бұрын
@@andrexpic97 thanks for the reply :)
@mzzari212 жыл бұрын
Quite the opposite happened for me actually. I got straight A's in medical school with anki
@haruhidaso2 жыл бұрын
@@cynthiacancado2315 There is actually a limit to how much raw information one can put into the brain. Raw memorization of information can only take you so much which is what flash card is. You must connect all of the information together to create a big map of information in your brain. How do you do it? It’s easy, you just need time to think about the information. First step is to memorize, but then you must spend time reorganizing what you learned into a map of an information of a sort. And crazy thing is that you can do this any time, and the connection you make doesn’t even have to be accurate to a certain degree. If you just want a good grade in test, if it is well organized in your brain, how you organize it doesn’t really have to be accurate.
@kimberlyann10222 жыл бұрын
I hope that Ling Ling would bestow upon me the ability to study 40 hours a day 🙏
@kashishahmad58182 жыл бұрын
Time for Doraemon to come into play...😂
@beingamultifandomstanisnteasy2 жыл бұрын
Fellow twosetter!
@akiotk64402 жыл бұрын
If you can study slowly you can study quickly...?
@minatimurmu97982 жыл бұрын
Twosetters everywhere?
@elizabetharias69892 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@djurdjajovanovicpadejski2792 Жыл бұрын
I'm very interested in learning what are you talking about with respect to the "smart kid" phenomenon. There are many incredibly intelligent people who never achieve their potential because they never learned how to learn and if the matter doesn't reveal itself to them, they start failing. It usually happens once the matter becomes more demanding and they lean into what feels easier and are mistaken believing their passion is what naturally comes to them easier, rather than exploring what genuinely excites them.
@djinn4895 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God, I do want to hear and read about the research 😭 knowing the mechanisms is the most important part. Nice to meet you, Justin, this is the first video i watch of yours, and I'm totally subscribing. Thank you for sharing your knowledge !
@WhalekinMoonGenshin2 жыл бұрын
This was extremely “humbling” from a learning point of view. I am one of those students who *rely* on active recall and spaced repetition. Just a few weeks ago it felt like I hit the limitations of what AR and SP could do for me. Not saying that I mastered it, but what I’m saying is that it feels like I can’t get any “more” out of it if the learning content demands more from me. It felt like those techniques were some 20lb dumbbells and yeah for the first few weeks of work out it’s gonna do more, but I can’t get any more growth if all I lift are those 20lbs so this video really opened me up and humbled me in the sense that there was sooooo much I needed to learn more thank you a lot.
@1-800-AUDIOS2 жыл бұрын
Teaching lessons to yourself like you’re teaching someone else is SO helpful for me
@patmull1 Жыл бұрын
From my experience from college and high school, I think the best learning method involves active recall but only as one part of the learning process: 1. write your own study material (or read carefully the study material of others if it does not suck, can be from your mates or the official study material). 2. Search like crazy on the internet for other good materials than the official from your school (there is a very high probability you will find better materials, materials you can understand better, or materials that were the source for your professor) and try to understand things you couldn't understand. 3. Teach it. 4. Imagine like you are the student and ask questions. 5. Answer the question, 6. Test yourself repeatedly (yes, you can use flashcards here). 7. Ask former students or search for past exams to see what you really need to remember. 8. Use mnemonics if you still cannot memorize something and you need to. The disadvantage is that it is time-consuming, however, I think this is the only working method if you want to both actually learn something for good (for long time memory) and memorize the rest of the stuff (the necessary evil, which is required for some of the courses).
@BLaCkAddor Жыл бұрын
You simply cant do that when you are at university studying something like Medicine. It takes to much time, because you have many subjects and each of them requires you to study 100’s - 1000’s of Pages .
@bsv128 ай бұрын
I loved this video not just because of what you explained and talked about but because it wasn’t like do this do this. The little jokes here and there, how you cut the video zooming in and out and the part with the research made me smile. I’m actually struggling at university but this video motivated me to change my learning system and stop putting so much pressure on myself for not being able to keep up with my lectures and repeat the topics regularly. This is the first video I’ve seen from you and I subscribed after 1/3 of the video. Thank you❤
@paulaan8812 жыл бұрын
AS AN UNDERGRAD STUDENT I THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR THIS !!! I have been concluded the same approach about actively "studying" as by being more exposed to the fact of being "proactive" with good results, i started to distinguish the difference between learning and studying which it may be labelled as the same activity. this is the first time i have encountered to someone who was able to explain this !!!!!!
@savannahgarza97412 жыл бұрын
I9
@Miniflower252 жыл бұрын
Also calm/peaceful mind is important for good memory..If we have lot of stress or pains in heart ,, Definitely that will affect our brain negatively.
@m00nwalker32 Жыл бұрын
Broskiiiiii don’t skip over the research studies 😭😩 They’re actually so intriguing and interesting to learn about and add to the validity of what you’re saying please don’t skip them in your videos,for people like me who enjoy them😀😩💕
@diegov.b.91422 жыл бұрын
In summary this video is: "Focus in better encoding, than flatting your forgetting curve" Definitions: Enconding: process to put info from working memory into long-term memory. Working memory = "RAM Memory", Long-term memory = "Hard Drive memory" Personal opinion: A video perfumed with scientificism, where a guy is more worried to prove their reliability, by shooting out a plethora of buzz-words, than delivery something critic at all.
@Tee-e4i2 жыл бұрын
That is what i am getting here, a video where someone has said a lot but so little that you really do anything with it.
@Shino-lr2wi2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the summary
@marieeusebio61792 жыл бұрын
You’ve captured exactly how I’m feeling halfway into the first semester of my Master’s and attempting (albeit clumsily) to employ active recall and spaced repetition with, admittedly, low level encoding - demoralized. Seven years after completing my undergrad, I can’t wait to do better and be more intentional this time around. Can’t wait for more videos.
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
I've got a few videos of me tackling my Masters as well so that should help :)
@SevereMalfunction72 жыл бұрын
Is your master's technical? I am curious because I do math and stats.
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
@@SevereMalfunction7 it isn't, but I do have tips for more technical subjects. I will endeavor to make videos on that one the future too. There is a lot to cover!
@sharannagarajan4089 Жыл бұрын
You could tell the same thing with less words Concepts I learned: Success bias Dunning Kruger effect. Availability bias
@Nemo_Anom Жыл бұрын
The gist of all of this is that learning is more than just remembering, it is applying what you remember. This requires you to be *active* in your learning and studying: constantly asking questions about why? what? when? who? how? Why, what, and how being the most important questions. Explain it to yourself, question the text, make connections with your own life and previous learning, ask "what if" questions. Be ACTIVE! That's really just it. Engaging with your learning contextualizes things so that when you "encode", you have multiple connections and can retrace back to it, like retracing your steps to find your keys. It doesn't mean that you don't need to memorize facts or trivia, because you still will, and spaced repetition systems can help you there,; but, if you contextualize what you learn and apply it, you will remember and understand much better. And that is what learning is (remembering + understanding/applying). Source: I'm a teacher. :D
@panchofenix9912 Жыл бұрын
bloom's taxonomy chart in a nutshell
@ohoangnghien13892 жыл бұрын
I must thank you for producing this video. I know Active Recall and Spaced Repetition since the first year of Medical School and welp, It truly helped. But like you said, it only tackles the retrieving. I realized this, I used to spend so much time doing Anki and not getting the result I wanted. I cannot do questions requiring applications. I have been google how to study better, how to ensure that you really get things, stuff like that(Feyman techniques etc but I am still struggling with this). I also feel like I am somewhat inferior to my peers because I cannot grasp the knowledge, and apply as quick as them, even though I manage to do the Anki cards.
@tomato7782 жыл бұрын
Check out the "20 rules of knowledge formulation". The first three rule is very important for Anki.
@JT-tx2ns2 жыл бұрын
i hope things got better !
@legendaryhopeson79822 жыл бұрын
Pretty good, lucky to have found this before I went full on active recalling and space repetition for everything. Thanks.
@lethinhphong2 жыл бұрын
me too lol. I have just found out about these techniques today and so intrigued to apply it EVERY DAY lol.
@adinatarcuta97393 ай бұрын
I like the way he explains it’s really good, simple and relatable with previous experience trying to learn things
@portreemathstutor11 ай бұрын
God this man can talk without saying anything.
@zerosub85722 жыл бұрын
A lot of people don’t realise how big of a topic this is! A lot of people are getting the false impression that youve just said that ar+sr is invalid and the only ‘correct’ way to learn is through your course. But hopefully that’ll lessen when you upload more videos. Anyway, I’m excited for the videos and reports that are yet to be published, there’s so much more to cover aha. Good stuff Justin. Hope this video gains traction, and more people get to see it! :)
@marijagudauskaite9942 жыл бұрын
Finally someone told that! I spent a great amount of time for searching the best study technique. And all I found was active recall and spaced repetition… I used it in my high school but in med school it was too much time consuming and I realised that instead of understanding I memorised all info 🤡. I ended up that main thing to suceed in learning is the cognition process . And you told that encoding! Can’t wait your another video!
@AmazingStoryDewd2 жыл бұрын
Memorization is an important factor for learning. More importantly the reviewing of material periodically over time in my experience helped to develop understanding.
@funkdrunk11 ай бұрын
If a med school wants you to cram, you use spaced repetition and you hate it! School is the culprit. You just need to learn the things you love. School stuff you can forget with little harm (as everyone else)
@romansynovle9902 жыл бұрын
There's no words to explain how much I appreciate you making this video. I'm sure if I slept the last couple days I would be able to able to but just want to say thanks
@Nathan-jq2xh Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using SuperMemo (spaced repetition program) every day for more than a decade, and it took me a couple of years to TRULY get the hang of the flow. Now that I am used to using it every day, I rely on it heavily to be my “external brain.” I think that as long as you have the drive to improve and stick with your system, you’ll be better off than not doing it.
@nuis_toro2 жыл бұрын
I have just completed 3 times to watch all of this video for 1 month. I have basic English so I could understand this main content that was extremely excellent. The first time I watched that I really want to be open-minded and get this knowledge. It's very useful with me because I'm freshman now. Thank you so much with all of my love to you. I have a deep respect for you.
@mnq2992 жыл бұрын
the dramatic cuts and transitions add the cherry on top to this video :D
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
I really did try lol
@franciscojavier79792 жыл бұрын
This dude knows his stuff! Not a lot of people know about the biases that influence us subconsciously. Enjoyed watching him explain the process and the biases which influence us.
@PidongCasiple-bg9vw4 ай бұрын
I'm practicing 2,000words to remember day by day for now for not my intention to discourage all Prof like you how good I am .just listening, watching and learning some good matters a day not arguing about being a Genius or not.
@MrCreeperjBR2 жыл бұрын
Ater analyzing everything you said, it all makes sense now. I've always been an avid spaced repetition defender. But the truth is, remembering things you learned (which is what spaced repetition aims at) is one of the MULTIPLE things and not the sole thing you should rely on to truly learn. I'm definetly going to stop doing 4-5 hours of solely spaced repetition and actually start trying to LEARN and not REMEMBER things. Definetly implementing what you taught us in your latest video. Thank you so much.
@akilegna12552 жыл бұрын
You should have been learning and understanding first before memorising. Its literally the whole point
@KatzeMelli2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, super interesting. I am studying computer science and I found it very difficult to use flashcards since most of my study content are math and coding concepts, so It's a lot more about actually understanding concepts rather memorising things. Of course there is a fair bit of memorising definitions of things but learning how to learn and understands complex concepts more quicker resonates so much more. I will definitely learn now more about encoding!
@dot58162 жыл бұрын
How do you use this encoding technique?
@StylistecS2 жыл бұрын
I think flash cards is difficult for people studying anything computers.
@silvestremartinez7914 Жыл бұрын
When I studied Computer Science, the moment I started doing well in the exams was the moment I started to deepen my understanding of the topics. I left behind the notes and the summarised documents the teachers had given to us and went directly to the bibliography at the end of the documents. The first day of the year I was in the library to rent the books of the subject before anyone else, and I didn't return them until I had passed the exam. What at the beginning seemed too long (to read and understand several complex books) it ended to be so much easier and interesting that trying to memorize some documents I didn't understand so good. I owned a half of my degree to Mr Tannenbaum and Stallings.
@ishrakmujibift42695 ай бұрын
Dr. Sung, I'm earnestly greatful for your content on learning. Heavily changed my perspective on how to learn. I remember asking myself, "I studied so much more than them, yet they always seem to do better than me." Now I know why. I hope the best for your channel. Looking forward to enrolling on your course, if I can afford it.
@laurenfrancis5474 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I'm in the same position your students would be in before they came to learn from you. I wasn't unintelligent but some point I shut my brain down and refused to think about anything too deeply but I kept feeling like I was missing something. "Had it always been this hard for me to comprehend what I'm trying to learn or can I just not remember?" I know I have a lot of hard work ahead of me, but I felt myself really needing to know more.
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
Video on the basics of encoding releasing tomorrow! Finishing the edits today :)
@15secbook2 жыл бұрын
Hi;)
@comprehendnature24042 жыл бұрын
The best learning method I found is to target both understanding and memory. Memorize when necessary, but understand as much as possible. Once your brain starts to be able to memorize, it will improve your understanding. So understand --> memorize --> understand.
@lismyreji10 Жыл бұрын
Our world needs more genuine people like youu sir, you are a life saver... 🙏🏻💐
@DevAdorj2 жыл бұрын
Activate Recall and space repetition never worked for me. However when I tried to explain that to others like my teachers or even parents I got looked at like oh you most be doing it wrong or your just not studying hard enough. I was even told by my teachers in high school I would not go to college. I used to fall asleep on work books frustrated and upset thinking something was wrong with me. I started even skipping class because I got frustrated I was not getting help I needed. Was not till after high school I found out I had ADHD. I had to reteach myself after high school and I'm still learning how to learn. I have been to college though and did very well . Though was not in the right career path 😅. Now I'm going back to college to take a risk in what I always wanted to do. I'm still learning every day on how to better myself even as an adult. Will definitely look at your other videos and try some of your studying tips.
@yaboop2 жыл бұрын
"Not all studying processes activate the same amount of learning" - powerful distinction.
@klkiley29222 жыл бұрын
23:50 = mind blown!! Constantly fighting the forgetting curve!!
@JustinSung2 жыл бұрын
Like the curse of Sisyphus
@382u3uuej Жыл бұрын
I clicked on the video because I learn using space repetition and active recall, when I saw a video saying it doesn't work I clicked on it and read the summary the uploader posted (because I can't be asked to watch a 40 minute video on something that I know has extremely high chances of being wrong), so apparently his entire point is that you should do these things because it's not effective since learning actually takes doing shit rather than just testing yourself with your own questions, yeah of course, it would be like saying "if you want to learn a language don't just learn gramatical rules and words, you also need to form sentences!!". I would highly distrust anyone calling himself a coach (this is how I knew he is a charlatan) since "coaches" are just unqualified people with zero credentials on a topic that use that term to label themselves as experts, and on top of that if you check the description he sells lessons on how to coach for as little as 1.50$ a day (45 a month for a discord server on how to study lmao), he created a problem by saying that effective techniques don't work and offered a solution to sell you a product, listen kids I know that a lot of you here are young and this man is trying to sell you the secret to success but don't fall for it, don't be stupid, he is just trying to sell you something.
@englishstudent5562 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could read your comment before 29 minutes I have watched... He said after 30 minutes that you can watch another my video where I finally answer what is about his technique, what a waste of time.
@submeg51832 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin, I have been using spaced repetition for about a year and I was just about to embark on a new round of card creation (to help me learn chords, chord progression and the other building blocks of Jazz Piano). But as I sat there and thought about how I could best create these cards, I realised that in order to have a completely comprehensive collection of cards, it was going to take AGES to make the cards, let alone study them. A friend of mine had told me about your modified mind palace technique, so I have started watching your videos, and I'm super excited for the next course to begin. I am excited to learn the encoding techniques that will help me to understand and connect the topics that I learn during a lesson so that I can solidify and expand my knowledge and ability. See you in a week or so!
@ftezzey2 жыл бұрын
this video made me realize so many things about why I got tired of my anki flashcards once it reached a big number and deleted the entire deck without looking back. Actually, I just keep my decks simple, not much info bc I cannot handle much of it, and it works fine like that, but I still don't relay 100% on flashcards.
@PauloPM80002 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying this just to shit on the video or anything, but I agree with some points made by some people in the comments. Without the other videos explaining how to study properly without spaced repetition and teaching how to "encode" information, this one just talks about a problem without offering possible solutions aside from your course. It could leave a lot of people lost because of this, and bringing out your product as one of the solutions (right now at least, the only one mentioned, since the videos aren't out yet) could, with all reason, give the impression that this is just some marketing to promote your stuff. I don't think this is the case, and I'm excited to see your content about those topics. Great work, and thank you for sharing your knowledge
@NeerajGupta-fy1bv2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more.
@Leg3nd_03592 жыл бұрын
He literally said in the comments he’s gonna create more videos on how to not solely rely on active recall and spaced repetition. Just be patient he has other things to do as well.
@akiotk64402 жыл бұрын
In his channel there's a video waiting to premiere that is about how to apply this "encoding". It's going to be out in less than a day.
@tomato7782 жыл бұрын
This made me curious as Justin is online in youtube for a year, made around 54 videos and did he revealed this knowledge that he posesses to better learning in a practical how to videos, disappointed I could not find any :-( It was all theoritical. I wonder why?
@Manu-se5tx2 жыл бұрын
It's a classic scam, "join my webinar to study 200 pages the day before your exam! " Type of thing, just more veiled. He even added reviews of his course in post production and safeguarding himself repeating how he already knows that the video would get a lot of backlash (I wonder why)
@jamelb2583 Жыл бұрын
It's just incredible what I learned from this video! I'm looking for the right methods to learn and study for my children (14 and 13 years old) and for my professional needs. Yes, it's very boring for the children and me to apply this method, but we see so many people talking about it that we end up believing in it. However, what you explain in this video really speaks to me, and now I'm curious to understand what the methods are for encoding! Thanks again!
@majutsushisliceoflife2 жыл бұрын
This video has been eye-opening for me! I wasn't familiar with active learning techniques, but now that I know some, I'll be looking further into them. Also, I got some unexpected value from your example of cleaning your room when explaining diminishing returns. I've been worrying a bit too much about the best way to organize my study materials including notebooks, and index cards. Knowing that spending too much time organizing is not going to save me that much time finding my learning materials, but that I'm wasting time organizing, instead of learning is an eye opener in of itself. Thank you so much for the insight!
@farzadjokhi82752 жыл бұрын
You have nailed the point on the disadvantages of active recall and spaced repetition. If I recollect correctly many of the studytubers have mentioned that these techniques slowly helps the learners to have a clear mental map of the concepts as they do active recall with spaced repetition over a period of time, however this is a very slow and inefficient way of learning if one relies on active recall and spaced repetition to have a clear mental model of the concept. If a learner had properly encoded a concept and had a clear mental model of the concept in his mind when he or she first learns the concept, then the time required for active recall and spaced repetition comes down way more significantly. I think that active recall and spaced repetition techniques works best for auditory learners since these techniques requires the students to think about the concepts in words.
@arshadiqbal2592 жыл бұрын
For those with ADHD 21:40 he starts talking about active recall
@513regichan2 жыл бұрын
I'm neurodivergent and everything that is happening in the video has kept my attention 😅. I've actually been trying to understand how the learning process works (got the first bit right) but still confused as to how the process works, which was the important information that I have been looking for. I have a hard time understanding certain things, so that's probably why I'm so persistent im wanting to learn how to learn. Honestly this video is god sent, because you just make so much sense. Deffo be subscribing
@Roastpeef Жыл бұрын
I knew I'd find my people under this video. I'm hopeful about this because i did try AR and SR methods but quickly felt stupid. Just thinking why me? Why can't I do it? And it left me so depressed.
@littlebanana73722 жыл бұрын
If i am correct, ways to practice active recall also require you to understand deeply the concept behind so everything can “actively” jump out of your head when facing a problem. And by to get that “actively” response, while learning, you’re doing the “encode” things. Anw, tbh i do appreciate your video and the content, it’s huge and amazing.
@jacobhatfield7642 жыл бұрын
Ling ling! Didn't expect that one lol. Anyhow, learning isn't memorization; nope, learning is making the information your own. How we do so is by understanding, not memorizing. Honestly, I find that I rarely have to use pure memorization outside facts like remembering Irrationals. Studying formal logic and set naive theory-- not quite to ZFC yet-- has taught me perspective is key. Or at least, that's my takeaway.
@pippilala2 жыл бұрын
No matter how Ling Ling you are 😂 didnt expect that either
@jacobhatfield7642 жыл бұрын
@@pippilala If you can study slow! You can study fast!! Truly, we all must transcend the boundaries of reality and cram 40 hours into a single day haha. Become one with the Ling Ling!
@shokujinki2 жыл бұрын
How to learning without recalling the information? Memorization technique is the key
@jacobhatfield7642 жыл бұрын
@@shokujinki Again, purely remembering facts does not given you anything if you do not first understand the meaning and use. This is why the school education system fails: subjects such as math and science is treated as nothing but fact checks to be learned. Which is why when they hit college they struggle to keep up, as math and science is not just formula "inset here." That is why I say, most of time memorization is secondary to learning. Because if you understand how to use the information, your most likely going to remember it. Do not fall into the over reliance of memory systems. They are just tools, and tools are to used when needed. This is
@annikulke2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much for this video! Exactly what happend to me 1 year ago. Even the dunning kruger effect... 🤣 I was so convinced that Anki would solve all my study problems for me and was so excited in the beginning that I wanted to remember every little detail to impress the professor (and myself). But then I ended up with moderate depression for 4 months because Anki "wouldn't allow me" only one day off and I started to hate studying. Creeps me out to think of that dark time in my Life.
@rabienouhal34072 жыл бұрын
Wooow.. And what do use now
@annikulke2 жыл бұрын
@@rabienouhal3407 i've binge watched Justins Videos/Podcasts/instagram content and started to practise techniques of him. I've started to 'think' differently. I'm still learning to learn!! It doesn't come naturally to me, because I'm actually lazier than I thought. 😂 And I've had to quit medical school, because I needed to focus on my mental health.
@yin96472 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to me how so many of my classmates complain that out teachers don’t teach or just laugh about how they learned nothing and are expected to do some sort of assignment. Like yeah. You think it’s easy to just encode all that information in your head? I’m not “good at chemistry” it’s just that I actually took notes and asked questioned when our teacher gave lectures. That A+ was earned from actively trying to understand what he was telling us, asking questions even when it ended up being pretty dumb, and doing the homework assignments we were supposed to, even if it was late because it’s not like he docked points for late things anyways.
@narimanhedayat74432 жыл бұрын
Just summarizing this video's "contents" to save other people from wasting 40 minutes of their life: BUY my course- srs is not that bad but only if you're not doing it already- BUY my course I'm great- active recall isn't that good but I'm not gonna suggest any alternatives to make you BUY my course. Oh and I forgot to mention that other youtubers don't know anything (he is right). You know why? Because they didn't BUY my course.
@William.-.2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for summarizing the video!
@mijaelmarcelovillarroelchu65132 жыл бұрын
Hey, you're not the one to say that, I believe him more than any other youtuber if he sells you an idea without you knowing
@pranjaldas78032 жыл бұрын
summery i learn : active recall and space repetation is good for beginners but for becoming expert in something you need more..
@rudbeckia2692 жыл бұрын
I have watched SO MANY videos and read so much about study technics and active recall only works when I have really pushed myself to remember and it's very time-consuming. A lot of tears are usually involved. Amazing content- I'll definitely watch more of your videos.
@mariamvictor824211 ай бұрын
The BEST VIDEO EVER & THE MOST IMPORTANT. . BE PATIENT . . the precious information will start at minute 7 to 8 This video include the basic principles (the corner stones ) that will help you understand how your memory works &how to study yourself. ..this kind of knowledge will make you understand all the other apparently lighter& easier to follow videos . . So don't miss this particular video & make it your number 1 video & revise it whenever needed to endure your studying process /Dr. Mariam Victor (Rheumatologist) ... Need to deeply thank Dr. JUSTIN , .. Do thank you for this extensive effort of searching & putting it in a way that we can understand & apply. . May God surrounds you with all His love, success, blessings & health. . Do thank you. .🌹🌹🌹
@craftdude25512 жыл бұрын
This is so accurate.Freshman year I used active recall and spaced repetition to get passed biology but I realized that after that semester it’s like I forgot everything because I just barely memorized it,I belief this is why people have problem learning programming because it doesn’t just work.
@djlinux642 жыл бұрын
You forgot everything because you massed studying ("cramming") and didn't follow through with the spacing effect after you stopped caring about the content
@382u3uuej Жыл бұрын
I clicked on the video because I learn using space repetition and active recall, when I saw a video saying it doesn't work I clicked on it and read the summary the uploader posted (because I can't be asked to watch a 40 minute video on something that I know has extremely high chances of being wrong), so apparently his entire point is that you shouldn't do these things because learning actually requires doing shit rather than just testing yourself with your own questions, yeah of course, it would be like saying "if you want to learn a language don't just learn gramatical rules and words, you also need to form sentences!!". I would highly distrust anyone calling himself a coach (this is how I knew he is a charlatan) since "coaches" are just unqualified people with zero credentials on a topic that use that term to label themselves as experts, and on top of that if you check the description he sells lessons on how to study for as little as 1.50$ a day (45 a month for a discord server on how to study lmao), he created a problem by saying that effective techniques don't work and offered a solution to sell you a product, listen kids I know that a lot of you here are young and this man is trying to sell you the secret to success but don't fall for it, don't be stupid, he is just trying to make money.
@larra468 Жыл бұрын
you concluded all this without actually watching the video?...isn't that presumptuous.
@thedog5k Жыл бұрын
@@382u3uuejbased This dude and all the other gurus be going on other peoples vids and saying the dumbest shit People cram with anki and then say it doesn’t work Or this guy was legit saying ANKI DOESNT HELP WITH LEARNING LANGUAGES I can’t tolerate the amount of horseshit coaches on the internet now days.