K-POP FEMALE VOCALS UPDATE! - 「 NMIXX Haewon, Kyujin + LE SSERAFIM Yunjin and WEEEKLY Monday 」

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Жыл бұрын

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@ms.schneiderman6605
@ms.schneiderman6605 Жыл бұрын
Lol I expected Lily to produce resonance at first, but Haewon sounds closer to have resonance in the 4th octave than her. This group has so much potential though, their vocals are trained very well.
@generalariel6283
@generalariel6283 Жыл бұрын
Dude, that "Hero" of Kyujin in head voice was soooo pretty
@generalariel6283
@generalariel6283 Жыл бұрын
@@chewieqtpie really? I think it was head voice because it doesn't sound thin and airy
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@chewieqtpie Nah, a falsetto would be a LOT airier and thinner than what Kyujin did. Arguable of it's quality, it's definitely an attempt at a head voice.
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@chewieqtpie yuhhh, hoping she continues to work on it though. Kyujin, Bae and Jiwoo all showed nice attempts at a head voice with "oo" vowels already.
@thek-nerd3143
@thek-nerd3143 Жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya where did Bae? I know jiwoo’s is from me myself and I
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@thek-nerd3143 One off moments from Vlive and their 100-Day video special where she would sing the post chorus of Sprinkle Party
@anneishere8887
@anneishere8887 Жыл бұрын
Kyujin is really an ace at her young age. How a 15 years old girlie can do like this? Dance and vocal, she has all
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
She’s an all rounder not an ace
@sanatmanhare5912
@sanatmanhare5912 Жыл бұрын
@@vvenuskook4170 dumb aespa biased
@misteon_builds
@misteon_builds Жыл бұрын
she’s 16 now
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
Ever since Kyujin showed full support in her A3's, I speculated that she'd have a much stronger sense of support going up to A4. Her head voice attempts so far have been really nice too. And personally I find her tone so satisfying. Like it's so smooth and pleasant to listen to. So excited for her growth because she's only 16 and she's already this good 😫🙏🏿
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
No because the mics were so much clearer at the Dream Concert (fuck them for turning Haewon's volume down during her Superhero line tho, sister looked pissed af), I was so shocked to hear how full and stable all of NMIXX sounded. Bae revealed that the group practices by singing/doing vocal exercises while running and it's so clear that its working because all of them have SUPERB stamina and breath control while dancing.
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
the mics were clearer AND the girls were projecting lol nmixx are live performers, i fear nobody is coming close in the 4th gen
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae my phone vibrating everytime jinni said "like a tank ima" with her husky ass voice omgg😭😭
@rafaelm6181
@rafaelm6181 Жыл бұрын
Haewon A4 sounded so good. I'm on repeat because of the quality and openness of that note. I am very hopeful that she will be able to resonate in the 4th octave. Just little more practice Haewon. You can now resonate!
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
Ikr, her voice is so open and forward in her mid range. There are some qualities of resonance present in her A4's but what hinders her most is her slight nasality.
@rafaelm6181
@rafaelm6181 Жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya Just the very slight nasality. I think she is like wendy. there is slight nasality in her notes. But I'm really hopeful for her to completely resonate. I think Haewon shines more in her 4th octave, better than Lily than her 5th octave where lily shines better
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelm6181 I agreeeee, Haewon's fullness adds so much more texture in mid range notes while Lily more extensive support allows her to mix upper notes in a really healthy and balanced manner.
@rafaelm6181
@rafaelm6181 Жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya True, which makes them a really great duo.
@Useronetwothreefour
@Useronetwothreefour Жыл бұрын
Haewon is really up there. Main vocalist material second to lily in nmixx obviously, putting haewon in their group in nmixx is already superior, adding lily is such an overkill. Kyujin on the other hand has no doubt a legit singer at a young age, kyujin supports properly and for sure in the future could make a wider upper range after seeing that falsetto on Haewon’s line.
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
they're not main vocalist "material", they ARE main vocalists not as in that's their position but they r truly a good vocalist LOL if you get what I mean
@Useronetwothreefour
@Useronetwothreefour Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon yes i get it. I just wanted to use a safe word because other fandoms might get triggered again and attack nmixx all of a sudden
@oceanwave_
@oceanwave_ Жыл бұрын
So proud of Kyujin moving up to the lower average rank 👏🏼 With her constant improvements, she’ll only continue to climb further up from here!
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
She's back in w-a again sadly 😭
@hasanbasri7661
@hasanbasri7661 Жыл бұрын
@@jaehyunsshoe9124 bcoz?
@aeyoona
@aeyoona Жыл бұрын
@@jaehyunsshoe9124 why
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
@Czennen when u realized it all of nmixx member except bae can be main vocalist in itzy lol 💀
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 Жыл бұрын
@@jaehyunsshoe9124 she tends to get shallow. She needs to keep that full diaphram engagement.
@YEOUN_channel
@YEOUN_channel Жыл бұрын
2:39 woah- that's her best attempt in head voice so far. It sounds better than most of her head voice moments imo.
@gxm9763
@gxm9763 Жыл бұрын
omgg my bias Kyujin reaching low A!! she literally said goodbye to the 4 who is in W-A😭
@gxm9763
@gxm9763 Жыл бұрын
i mean 3, Bae needs a little more to go to reach W-A
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
Sulljinwoo seeing kyujin gettin back to the w-a tier : " welcome back hun😁😁😁 "
@gxm9763
@gxm9763 Жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 😭
@gxm9763
@gxm9763 Жыл бұрын
she’ll get back up there soon for sure!
@wompwomp8272
@wompwomp8272 Жыл бұрын
@@gxm9763 even though bae's technique is problematic I like her singing sm lmao she sings like shakira sometimes
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
I wonder how Yunjin will utilize her clean opera-esque head voice into pop. I hope she'll still keep that full sound that she has when she does opera.
@nomorenoise2374
@nomorenoise2374 Жыл бұрын
I must say that I missed haewon’s predebut vibrato sm! the “superhero” line attempt she went for at the music bank summer event was definitely her best one. I’ve been waiting for her to add the vibrato like she did within the studio version and now she has finally done it! I hope she continues to make better attempts with this approach since she sounds much fuller and rounder.
@nomorenoise2374
@nomorenoise2374 Жыл бұрын
@@Brybeery I wouldn’t say vibrato is important but it’s a very nice asset to retain. I personally think it showcases the control you have over your voice. vibrato (a healthy vibrato to be specific) can also be a sign of open or resonant notes imo.
@alishaoop2676
@alishaoop2676 Жыл бұрын
yess i loved it sm! it sounded almost resonant
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
im still mad that you could barely hear haewon's voice in the "let me be you superhero" line in the studio version bcuz of the odd mixing and post eq-ing
@k-idols3763
@k-idols3763 Жыл бұрын
Kyujin really shows a lot potential, her lows really surprised me, she's now consistent with G#3s. Anyways nice video as always.
@rinactx8170
@rinactx8170 Жыл бұрын
1:18 i think it's the best A4 we have from her
@ssamu756
@ssamu756 Жыл бұрын
Nmixx is crazy man, so fucking good.
@nomorenoise2374
@nomorenoise2374 Жыл бұрын
I knew that A4 at 2:04 was really close to resonance! the problem is her slight nasality that I wish she overcomes soon. Also, the D5 from her cover at the wedding kinda surprised me since both her and lily wore masks.
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
Little storytime: I was wondering why Haewon went for a lighter approach on the D5 in strawberry moon (cuz I've never listened to it LMAFOSOFA) and I guess she was trying to mimic IU's sound cuz *WOW* IU sang that song so soft and dreamy.
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
One thing with haewon is she is definitely knowledgeable she knows what approach would suit her the song the best and bends her voice and vocal technique accordingly . That's why you will always see me being so hopeful for her improvement only a person who knows their weakness can rectify it and be better in future and knowing so many ways to approach a note can definitely mean which is the best way for her to get better praying she still takes those vocal lessons a talent like her lily must not go to waste
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@kaushikidhupar2954 Yeahh, I'm actually really confident Nmixx are really taking care of their voice. It's pretty obvious they know how to take care and try to present stronger vocals. And if thats a stretch, its defintiely true that Lily and Haewon are really knowledgable about their voice's condition and health and they would definitely be helping the other members with their voices too.
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell Жыл бұрын
Wow Kyujin low register is better than I thought.
@eternaldandaniexol
@eternaldandaniexol Жыл бұрын
Kyujin be having an identity crisis right now 🤣😭
@camiloh2443
@camiloh2443 Жыл бұрын
Nmixx is a true gold mine of talent huh, I'm putting my money on Kyujin. How is she so young and yet so talented? She and all of the girls have a very very bright future
@brodude825
@brodude825 Жыл бұрын
Nmixx is like "when you're main dancer and main vocal at the same time"
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
Being an idol is side hustle for nmixx they are actually wedding singers for jype staff that's there maim job lol Kidding aside I think it's good that jype takes care of their staff too I feel that staff and managers that work for entertainment industry are not appreciated as they should besides nmixx can showcase their vocals at these events as well
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
God damn Kyujin sounding so good here!!
@JamieTheCaratBich
@JamieTheCaratBich Жыл бұрын
2:27 WHAT?! the openness 😍 even SM is shaking rn
@tienle_nulosa
@tienle_nulosa Жыл бұрын
Finally Monday show off her head voice, it sounds so niceeeee and I think it's supported
@skyline6242
@skyline6242 Жыл бұрын
i hope kyujin can support G3s too her G3s sound quite nice to me when i first heard her qualifying cover i thought her G3s had some support but multiple person said it's relaxed so ig it's just relaxed but i don't think it's far from support if she puts efforts into it also it's nice to know she can produce head voice i always thought that backstage clip was a falsetto but after hearing her singing at that wedding ig both of the times she used head voice
@Noname-of8hg
@Noname-of8hg Жыл бұрын
Nmixx has just debuted but already created a big vocal skills distance with other group.
@himi_
@himi_ Жыл бұрын
I don't pay attention to NMixx other than Haewon and Lily but I really like those clips of Kyujin!
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 Жыл бұрын
1:17 obsessed with Kyujins A4 here WOW
@nakoiz4851
@nakoiz4851 Жыл бұрын
i just don’t know how they could release 7 very well capable lead vocalists in nmixx but only one in itzy
@nakoiz4851
@nakoiz4851 Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 i didn’t how to phrase it so i put capable *lead vocalists* as i feel lead vocals should have atleast a shallow sense of support; ie bae/lia/jiwoo but even then jiwoo is quite a bit more developed than lia
@mixxtopia4930
@mixxtopia4930 Жыл бұрын
@@nakoiz4851 I get you, but I guess a capable lead vocalist would be someone higher, at least a high average level vocalist.
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Idk what happened lol
@shototodoroki4970
@shototodoroki4970 Жыл бұрын
yejin and sunmin could have been a great line up for vocals in itzy(or atleast a better vocal line) but sadly they left so they had no choice lol.
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 hehe, im guessing what OP was trying to say was just that they were shocked how 7/7 members all have some sense of technical singing, not trying to say anything about how all the members are "capable" singers in relation to the termonologies we use in our ranking system.
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 Жыл бұрын
What i want to see in 4th gen singers is them doing grits, intentional rasp or growling. Idk if its just me being a obsessed fan of beyonce or lady gaga, but im just a suck3r for singers doing those kind of techniques in singing. And that is why Winter is one of my fave singers on 4th gen, I hope she hones it more and explore more of doing it those in her singing!
@mambatheestallion1596
@mambatheestallion1596 Жыл бұрын
Oh Queen Bey!!! She aint playin with em growling!
@eternaldandaniexol
@eternaldandaniexol Жыл бұрын
ohh I know someone else! their name is Kim Minjeong
@eralynabad7911
@eralynabad7911 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7x2kqxzrp-qpqc.html at 2:36
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
Ok, so now I'm getting excited for NMIXX first comeback. Haewon already moved up in the ranking and now I'm waiting for the others.
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
It looks like girl takes notes and improves because every note she sang in oo sound so much better now hopefully she sees criticism as something positive AND read the post in onehallyu and soobaetzu and works on her c#5 and d5 range and get rid of that nasality to have resonance
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@@kaushikidhupar2954 Are you saying haewon reads the post in onehallyu LOL?
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully
@akukuayam9019
@akukuayam9019 Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon It'd be funny if she actually reads Onehallyu 😂. But i guess she's aware of her skills like her weaknesses and strength. I bet she watch most of her performances to evaluate her vocal.
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@@akukuayam9019 Mhm, but I doubt she would even know OneHallyu thread exists LMAO.
@noriichan3504
@noriichan3504 Жыл бұрын
haewon has made me a fan of NMIXX all on her own! I know everyone in the group is super talented, hoping they get better music next comeback!!!
@vity9534
@vity9534 Жыл бұрын
manifesting Haewon gonna be same tier with Lily soon! 🙏🏻
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
arent they the same tier though? Lily is High AA/Fringe AA-P and haewon is low AA
@imanzufar
@imanzufar Жыл бұрын
they are in the same tier, both are AA
@vity9534
@vity9534 Жыл бұрын
@@days3164 oh wait, what are their consistent?
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
@@vity9534consistent support range? Lily has [G#3]/A3-D5/Eb5-F#5/G5, and haewon has G#3/A3-C#5-Eb5
@SakusaHusband
@SakusaHusband Жыл бұрын
@@days3164 I don't think to Don consider her To get D5/Eb5 She still sometimes Lost support on her D5 and that's why its too early To give her D5/Eb5
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
thank you all who joined the live streaming
@RICK-jj2op
@RICK-jj2op Жыл бұрын
What is Yunjin support?
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
@@RICK-jj2op speculated to be around Bb3~Bb4/B4 + some head voice
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
Oh where do you usually do live streaming? On the channel? I missed it ;< Edit: nvm im stupid, i just noticed you premiered this video 💀💀
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya oh lmao hopefully i’ll do more of those so we can chat a bit before the premiere!! beware of the next week update please! :D
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q Жыл бұрын
Monday has so much potential
@sosmiss9147
@sosmiss9147 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised when I saw you put Haewon's video that just came out yesterday and today. Good job editing the video👍
@hexawira7134
@hexawira7134 Жыл бұрын
Omg i'm so proud with monday. She support her head voice and it's really rare among 4th gen main vocal
@ninetine3052
@ninetine3052 Жыл бұрын
1:37 ayo this clip came out not too long ago! you're really efficient!
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
i usually take the whole week gathering content to edit only by the weekend so i was still on the editing when it came out ahah thanks!!
@cherryhappily
@cherryhappily Жыл бұрын
Haewon seriously is great 😍
@generalariel6283
@generalariel6283 Жыл бұрын
Thank's for the video :D, I'm surprise about that Haewon's D5. And for Yujin random F#5 baksjs
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
thank you for watching! ^^
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
Lmao I love how OP and Himi are releasing new content on the same day. I thought a fixed supported range has been declared for Yunjin seeing Yunjin in the title and thumbnail since she’s the only member in Le Sserrafim with an actual solid grasp of support and the strongest vocalist by and so far out of all HYBE original groups (if we don’t consider GFriend lol), but that F#5 was pretty good (operatic and full) from her though lol.
@himi_
@himi_ Жыл бұрын
oh my name is mentioned 😳
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
@@himi_ Lmao you’re famous. 😂
@ssamu756
@ssamu756 Жыл бұрын
Haewon is so amazing
@lisadeokie5033
@lisadeokie5033 Жыл бұрын
omg been waiting for this video!!
@hexawira7134
@hexawira7134 Жыл бұрын
Whoaa kyujin already support G#3. Another good sub vocalist after karina
@Hatshe175
@Hatshe175 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ms5_pd1qtc67h6s.html Supported head voice by chuu? 2:17
@mixxtopia4930
@mixxtopia4930 Жыл бұрын
Sounds fine, but I'm not really sure since it's in studio
@jeongzz3817
@jeongzz3817 Жыл бұрын
2:04
@aevokall
@aevokall Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r65pqZVht6nej6s.html I wanna ask about this headvoice of Ningning. She didn't seem to be serious attempting singing that but I hope some sense of support could be there
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
Oot, but how could you paste the link that directly to the certain time. I mean like when I click the link, it directly move to the exact time when ningning hit the hv(not at the first time)
@SgtThidar
@SgtThidar Жыл бұрын
@@breats4703 right click on the youtube video screen then choose copy video url at current time
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
@@SgtThidar thanks
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 Жыл бұрын
Not worth analysing. Shes just casually playing around
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 Жыл бұрын
2:25 seems like it’s much easier for Haewon to support her higher mixed notes when she’s going for a headier mix instead of a pushy beltier sound
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 Жыл бұрын
hope she realizes this because a more belty sound ofc sounds more impressive but here she lightened her mix a bit and it’s much easier and healthy sounding
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 Жыл бұрын
her chestier approach seems to work up until like C5 and sometimes C#5 but above that she should definitely always lighten her mix or else it’s just very shouty and unsupported
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 Жыл бұрын
I think shes just blending?
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 Жыл бұрын
@@divaqueening1940 what do you mean by that?
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
I feel like that goes for almost every vocalist, going for headier mix minimizes strains and can sometimes makes support attempt easier. Have you noticed most if not all weak vocalists are light and heady when they attempt to support
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
wait kyujin is in the Average tier now?? why so?? proud of her
@mambatheestallion1596
@mambatheestallion1596 Жыл бұрын
Yujin is close to be my fave singer in kpop💅
@leonardoenrico2152
@leonardoenrico2152 Жыл бұрын
Kyujin has that beautiful vocal even she's a rapper and still young age
@whoviolet
@whoviolet Жыл бұрын
Off topic but I have a question, would you rank minnie an F+/E-?
@mixxtopia4930
@mixxtopia4930 Жыл бұрын
F+ (non-vocalist). By the way, tier system w/ letters like A,B,C,D... etc. are unnecessarily detailed for me. It's not like there are big gaps between the idols within the weak tier, they all are more or less interchangeable. Only higher weaks are closer to W-A, but that's all.
@ktbv454
@ktbv454 Жыл бұрын
Hi, totally unrelated but does anyone know if there are any Stray Kids member that can do support? And what are their supported range? Thanks.
@thek-nerd3143
@thek-nerd3143 Жыл бұрын
Seungmin is average
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
@@thek-nerd3143 hes literally weak?? he barely supports anyways
@ktbv454
@ktbv454 Жыл бұрын
@@days3164 so, none? I was kinda expecting Chan to have a support.
@thek-nerd3143
@thek-nerd3143 Жыл бұрын
@@days3164 somebody said he was average
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
@@thek-nerd3143 no way hes average, maybe they thought about woojin because hes an average, but seungmin is weak
@jnxykile5886
@jnxykile5886 Жыл бұрын
Any update Jinni, sullyoon or Bae?
@lairann3754
@lairann3754 Жыл бұрын
Monday has supported phrased D5s in this cover kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbiDjLqltZbGkqs.html First 2 choruses: Bogosipeosseo saranghaetton geuttae neowa ne gyote geutigo na nal neol baraman bwado NUN (D5) mul nage Last chorus: Na neoge cham gomawottago bokcha haengbokkaetago sarangeul gareucho JUN (D5) nun niga cham
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
That A4 😭😭 just a bit more practice and better attempts would do wonders
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
I just saw the community tab again and khujin is a low average 👀 I can see sullyoon climbing up to low average as well
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
ihih 👀 just in case anyone is questioning i find kyujin to be more consistent w/ the less-nasal rather than the stuck approach and it’s relatively clean. the B4s were nice as well, i wouldn’t doubt she will have some consistency up there. as for karina i’d rather wait a bit more, i personally hear she going stuck easier relatively to kyujin but they are not far off each other.
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae I don't doubted Karina is also their on low average and sullyoon too but you are right it's better we underate them and be pleasantly surprised when they are better than overrate them and get disappointed later
@rinactx8170
@rinactx8170 Жыл бұрын
@@kaushikidhupar2954 the thing for me is: karina is on the same level that lily was in kpop star. she has support, but she sings kinda instinctively. she has times that she sounds fuller and controlled at the studio, but live she goes messy.
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
@@kaushikidhupar2954 this! also it’s not that relevant in which tier they are, people take it way too serious imo lol the diferencies between a higher and lower vocalist in successive tiers is very slightly, let alone between the HIGHEST and LOWEST (ka and kyu) as they are atm
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae I'm also surprise as how she actually doesn't sound as stuck as karina now that I'm listening back to it again, but Idk if I would agree with placing her in average tbh.
@hitomiryoma6240
@hitomiryoma6240 Жыл бұрын
Of course Yunjin connect head voice because her opera career.
@lairann3754
@lairann3754 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/istgqKh-zNe3d58.html starting 2:53 That A#4-B4-E5-D#5-C#5-B4-F#4 run were all supported I believe.
@MrJay822
@MrJay822 Жыл бұрын
How was karina’s run here? Granted it’s studio version but we’ve never heard this from her before kzfaq.infoBgM4dXDtXG4?feature=share
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
not bad but overall i find karina’s voice straightforward heavy most of times for this kind of quirk, someway it reminds me of nayeon when she attempts running
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNl3a7NnqcqYfH0.html At 1:41 haewon's note sounded more fuller and better executed than any previous ones may I know the reason why what did she do so different than the note sounded so good was it vibrato? Or just more better supported?
@oceanwave_
@oceanwave_ Жыл бұрын
She was probably still pissed at being muted during that same line at the Dream Concert that she wanted to make sure that she was loud and clear here 😂 Kidding aside, this is definitely her best attempt! It was full, supported and her pre-debut vibrato is back! Hopefully we hear this vibrato more often or all the time. Edit: I also noticed that Haewon moved up in the ranking! Really happy to see/hear her progress as she continues to refine her technique. She has sooo much potential and as always, can’t wait to see her and the group’s vocal progress from here!
@rafaelm6181
@rafaelm6181 Жыл бұрын
is that note a resonance note of just are really great fully supported D5 note?
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelm6181 no not resonate I think just vibrato
@rafaelm6181
@rafaelm6181 Жыл бұрын
@@kaushikidhupar2954 Supported or not?
@oceanwave_
@oceanwave_ Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelm6181 Supported
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
Not 4th gen, but MAMAMOO IS COMING BACK SOON! 😭😭😭
@guczibub
@guczibub Жыл бұрын
Wow Haewon moved up in community tab 😳. Can I ask what made you put her above Yechan??
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
just overall stronger C5~D5 range
@guczibub
@guczibub Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae Thanks! What part of AA would she be now? Mid?
@rafaelm6181
@rafaelm6181 Жыл бұрын
Is haewon has a possibilty to be her supported range is G#3-C#5/D5-Eb5/E5? Or her G#3 and C#5 still has major issues?
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
i still find her C#5-D5 to be very slightly inconsistent (in quality and support respectively) but it’s not too far off, let’s see with more materials
@rafaelm6181
@rafaelm6181 Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae I kinda agree, I think her quality in that range is kinda messy. how about her G#3
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae so her mix would be B4/C5?
@rafaelm6181
@rafaelm6181 Жыл бұрын
@@vvenuskook4170 No, her C5 is good already. it is just between C#5-D5 where starts to be kinda messy
@guczibub
@guczibub Жыл бұрын
@@vvenuskook4170 nah, C5/C#5 is already safe for her
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q Жыл бұрын
Wow Chaein in W-A tier? I really didn’t expect that. I wonder if Jieun has any support too 🤔
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
Sootzubae said that she might be stronger than Swan too, but she's still shallow.
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q Жыл бұрын
@@Sylvaincks Purple Kiss, Lightsum, and idle all having sub vocalists on par or better than their mains 😭 companies need to get it together. Goeun is so discredited as a main vocalist as well as the best singer on pd48
@Forever_2424
@Forever_2424 Жыл бұрын
2:31 name plzz song name
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q Жыл бұрын
Kpop vocal ranking KZfaq streets 😭 are saying Suhyeon and Sua of Billlie are low average? Can anyone confirm?
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
They're at least W-A. I'm not sure too
@francescasolarino6843
@francescasolarino6843 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so
@nomorenoise2374
@nomorenoise2374 Жыл бұрын
may I know why u moved giselle is right below jinni? is it that the person who was above her is inconsistent w their approach or has she improved recently??
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
improved, she now has G#3/A3-A4(Bb4) and Is mid to High WA
@nomorenoise2374
@nomorenoise2374 Жыл бұрын
@@days3164 oh she really jumped up there. I hope that she continues to improve.
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@days3164 not really improved more like showcasing us more of her true level
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 yeah i meant to say that but i didnt know how
@ChonkyAsh
@ChonkyAsh Жыл бұрын
How about chanty from lapillus? I heard she has support I'm not sure
@ChonkyAsh
@ChonkyAsh Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 Oh I see thanks
@mixxtopia4930
@mixxtopia4930 Жыл бұрын
@@ChonkyAsh :]
@MoustafaSElHassan21
@MoustafaSElHassan21 Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 how is her support if she support ??
@MoustafaSElHassan21
@MoustafaSElHassan21 Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 we need more material from her already hit ya is a bop and chanty is my bias also
@ChonkyAsh
@ChonkyAsh Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 I agree, I saw that santa tell me cover and I wonder if the notes were supported. Ive some comments that the E5 was supported I'm not really sure
@ellenapaye7921
@ellenapaye7921 Жыл бұрын
is lily gonna be included in the weekly update??
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
lily had a whole video for herself! but she will if she shows anything new
@sseonwoo6983
@sseonwoo6983 Жыл бұрын
Hi I have a question, is Wendy now consistent with D5s and some of her Eb5s esp during Like Water era?
@bigmamafan1773
@bigmamafan1773 Жыл бұрын
She is considered with D5 and have occasional Eb5s yes.
@sseonwoo6983
@sseonwoo6983 Жыл бұрын
@@bigmamafan1773 So is her mix now D5/Eb5?or is it still C#5/D5?
@bigmamafan1773
@bigmamafan1773 Жыл бұрын
@@sseonwoo6983 I would give D5 (Eb5) AT MOST, (and she still got her regular issues so don't think its a notable shift or something).
@sseonwoo6983
@sseonwoo6983 Жыл бұрын
@@bigmamafan1773 ohhh okayyy. I have another question(I hope this won't be a bother😅) but is the Bb4 of this video(at 0:43) can be considered as Hyunjin's best attempt? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/preXpcVhzLvDfIU.html
@vaniontop
@vaniontop Жыл бұрын
what is mondays supported range and tier
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 10 ай бұрын
G#3 to B4/C5
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Жыл бұрын
May i ask what is Yunjin's estimated supported range?
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Жыл бұрын
@Baylon Nikko thank you!
@shototodoroki4970
@shototodoroki4970 Жыл бұрын
@Baylon Nikko she's high A?
@inyochayacha548
@inyochayacha548 Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me if there is someone in Kep1er that support besides Chaehyun?? If yes, then what are their support and their tiers
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
I heard Dayeon and Youngeun can support, they're probably low weak or even lower.
@inyochayacha548
@inyochayacha548 Жыл бұрын
@@Sylvaincks So why I see many singers ranking Dayeon 6th while Yujin 3rd and Mashiro 4th?? 💀 Yujin and Mashiro don't support right??
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
@@inyochayacha548 i dont think Yujin was ever 3rd but Bahiyyih Youngeun and Mashiro were considered as the best vocalists after Chaehyun because they could stay relaxed in a certain range and they were closer to support.
@inyochayacha548
@inyochayacha548 Жыл бұрын
@@Sylvaincks but... U said that Dayeon is able to support so she is the best after Chaehyun and Youngeun so how Mashiro and Bahi are considered the best??
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
@@inyochayacha548 because some people dont believe Dayeon and Youngeun are able to support
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
Hi sootzubae! I know this isn’t kpop related but I was wondering if you know what Madison beers supported range is? Is she good technically?
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
I think Ally Kelly did quite a lot of videos about her, you might find what you're looking for on their channel.
@francescasolarino6843
@francescasolarino6843 Жыл бұрын
She's really good, maybe one of the best in the new generation of western pop vocalists I think
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@Czennen AA-P? She's more high AA, her mixed overall still lacks fullness and strong coordination.
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon do you know her supported range?
@BAZISSINO94
@BAZISSINO94 Жыл бұрын
@Czennen wait what? Are you serious 😐?
@guczibub
@guczibub Жыл бұрын
And Kyujin is back in W-A
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
let’s pretend she was never on the A please lmao 🥲
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae why did you bring her back in w-a?
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
@@jaehyunsshoe9124 some more knowledgeable peers corrected me regarding her level, there’s still stronger WAs and lower As than her unfortunately
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae who's the highest W-A and lowest A btw?
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@jaehyunsshoe9124 jeongyeon and iu respectively imo
@kpuddin5042
@kpuddin5042 Жыл бұрын
i'm curious, does vibrato indicate support? also, i didn't know haewon is this good wtf
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
no, but it indicates relaxation in some degree. you can still have nice and natural vibrato even if you’re straining the note but also have some forced/problematic vibrato even with a supported note
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
here are some examples: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8dihtiKt7rXYn0.html supported but she sounded like a goat after she added the vibrato @ 1:11 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJpgdNZ_25-zoqc.html ofc lady gaga here @ 2:53 resonating with vibrato (my queen!) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrpjrbCWlsrHko0.html not supported but there’s vibrato
@kpuddin5042
@kpuddin5042 Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 thank you for this, i'm still learning about these vocal technicalities. very nice of you to explain nicely💖
@user-zz6dk6kb9h
@user-zz6dk6kb9h Жыл бұрын
are those their supported notes?
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
yes, if the note shown in the video is transparent then its not supported.
@user-zz6dk6kb9h
@user-zz6dk6kb9h Жыл бұрын
@@days3164 thanks!
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
#Ask BTOB member Support range?
@wushyringg
@wushyringg Жыл бұрын
Eunkwang- C3 ~ A4 ~ D5/Eb5 Changsub- D3 ~ F#4/G4 Sungjae- Bb2 ~ F4/F#4 Hyungsik- (don't know about his lows but he has something around F4/F#4 in mixed).
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@wushyringg thanks 🙏👍👍
@eternaldandaniexol
@eternaldandaniexol Жыл бұрын
@@wushyringg wow, BtoB are quite strong 😮 I mean, it a known fact but I wasn't expecting four developed vocalists unlike EXO with only three
@wushyringg
@wushyringg Жыл бұрын
@@eternaldandaniexol Yeah, I was also quite surprised about Hyungsik, I though he's like weak or weak to average at best. Cube's male groups vocal line or just the main vocalist are good from what I know, in comparison to their females.
@Douchifer
@Douchifer Жыл бұрын
@@eternaldandaniexol well EXO’s still wayyy better overall combined despite only 3 of them..(i mean the fact that they also produce resonance)🤷🏻‍♂️😂
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
Ssobaetzu so does that mean that haewon is now mid to high above average now that she is estimated to be above yechan On a side note I want to know is bae Suzy weak to average (she is one of ultimate bias and I sometimes get tired of people thinking that idol suzy is not talented )
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
more like mid aa, suzy is weak at most
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae I see thank you for the reply praying for the continued improvement of haewon's vocal abilities she has so much potential . She is right now my ultimate in 4th gen along with lia
@rosesgolden1888
@rosesgolden1888 Жыл бұрын
What's Bae supported range??
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
she’s able to bring it up to a4 iirc
@yourkpopvocalanalyst
@yourkpopvocalanalyst Жыл бұрын
A3/B3- G4/G#4 i think
@sicndjisifkskis727
@sicndjisifkskis727 Жыл бұрын
Who is better Ningning or Haewon? And can you give me they supported range?
@mixxtopia4930
@mixxtopia4930 Жыл бұрын
@Baylon Nikko Ningning probably has Eb5 in HV, so G3 ~ C5/C#5 ~ Eb5. G#3/A3 ~ C5/C#5 ~ Eb5 for Haewon.
@wushyringg
@wushyringg Жыл бұрын
Haewon by a noticeable margin.
@kalss7013
@kalss7013 Жыл бұрын
Haewon better
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 i wouldn’t say ning is consistent with her head voice at all yet. sometimes she supports it and has her good moments but sometimes she uses a falsetto instead so
@Hatshe175
@Hatshe175 Жыл бұрын
@@kledi3817 Ningning has far more supported attemps with hv that haewon
@sanatmanhare5912
@sanatmanhare5912 Жыл бұрын
Monday head voice supported???
@lairann3754
@lairann3754 Жыл бұрын
yes it is
@nghiatran-ht2su
@nghiatran-ht2su Жыл бұрын
d5-f5 good sup , g5 not bad
@Forever_2424
@Forever_2424 Жыл бұрын
@@lairann3754 can you tell me the performance name plzz
@lairann3754
@lairann3754 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever_2424 Sonata of Temptation, it's during the bridge part
@Forever_2424
@Forever_2424 Жыл бұрын
@@lairann3754 thanks a lot i was searching that from so many days i was searching like oooooo Monday performance
@momoszki9068
@momoszki9068 Жыл бұрын
can i ask who's better chaehyun or yuri
@zett1807
@zett1807 Жыл бұрын
yuri
@momoszki9068
@momoszki9068 Жыл бұрын
@Baylon Nikko does yuri supports C5
@momoszki9068
@momoszki9068 Жыл бұрын
@Baylon Nikko oh i see but some ppl says chaehyun consistently supports C5 is that true?
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
aespa New Songs "Life's too Short" any improvement from Giselle and Karina runs very different?
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
giselle is not that shallow enough to be kept at weak tier like miyeon before
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Community tab Sootzubae Giselle Now in Mid~W-A? she can go higher? what a about karina runs?
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 what a bout this from Giselle kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pqtmfNJimpe9aHk.html
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@d.n.n2267 that’s nice for giselle. she’s showing fuller sound in her midrange and there’s not much issues in her sound tbh so she’ll easily climb up if we see more materials for her karina sounds nice but i like the one she did in coachella better
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 I don't think she was ever in the weak tier, she was always lower part of W-A to me atleast before ppl put her higher in tier
@carloschacon104
@carloschacon104 Жыл бұрын
is it too risky to give karina G#3 already or we should just keep A3 for her?
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
I think so, she's only had one G#3 so far
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon hmmm maybe yeah but their will be CB maybe we can see karina show her lows notes in life too short buts idk
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon she has already supported almost, if not, all G#3s that she sang tho
@carloschacon104
@carloschacon104 Жыл бұрын
@@jaehyunsshoe9124 so, can we giver her G#3/A3 for consistency or keep it A3
@ayeon5609
@ayeon5609 Жыл бұрын
Is Lily AA-P or AA ? I thought she was in aa tier.
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
Shes high AA or The lowest AA-P
@t.t296
@t.t296 Жыл бұрын
With me personally: Low AA-P
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
Fringe AA-P/High AA
@evenup
@evenup Жыл бұрын
How do you think the rocket punch members' vocals ???
@hexawira7134
@hexawira7134 Жыл бұрын
Someone said Suyun has shallow support but i am not sure because i barely hear any engangement from her
@sanatmanhare5912
@sanatmanhare5912 Жыл бұрын
Haewon D5 was supported?
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
yes but that head voice
@sanatmanhare5912
@sanatmanhare5912 Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae and i think that A4 from her mixtape is resonant?
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@sanatmanhare5912 No, it was just well projected. Her sound still had some nasality.
@bigmamafan1773
@bigmamafan1773 Жыл бұрын
This hv attempt of Hyunjin was better than before, right ? or is it just me ?
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
i actually agree it’s somewhat better than she’ve done before
@bigmamafan1773
@bigmamafan1773 Жыл бұрын
@@sootzubae I still think IU sounds better developed than Kyujin btw, she has fuller phrasing on G#4-Bb4, Kyujin can still get a bit shallow and unrefined.
@sootzubae
@sootzubae Жыл бұрын
@@bigmamafan1773 to be fair i’d hear to IU quite a bit but almost never in live, i’m not particularly interested in solo live perfomances lol i can say choa had both better and worst moments though, overall kyujin’s approach is more consistent. it’s only an estimation anyways, believe me i won’t hesitate nerfing her back to WA lol
@hexawira7134
@hexawira7134 Жыл бұрын
This is kinda unrelated with girlgroup. Is felix and haruto are baritone?
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure felix is a tenor
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 Жыл бұрын
I dont think its good to discuss vocal types as both are underdeveloped.
@bigmamafan1773
@bigmamafan1773 Жыл бұрын
Felix is a tenor
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
Not related to GG's, but since YEOUN will be releasing the 4th gen BG ranking soon, my own thoughts about ONEUS, my ult 4th gen BG: 1) Seoho (Low-Mid (or even Low) Average/Standard/C) Estimated Supported Range: E3/F3 - F4/F#4 [Best: D3 - F#4] Seoho is the strongest vocalist of ONEUS no doubt about it with the only member having full-enough sense of support even if it's not really that great or "full" full per se (it's not shallow, but it doesn't really have the fullness either lol). His lower register is under-explored and even lacks consistency, thus underdeveloped; he can support down to D3 at best (his "Epiphany" cover and the ONEUS CNBlue cover), but then he flops a E3 the next or lacks consistency on his E3's ("Epiphany" cover and "Luna"); his lower register even lacks fullness (and can be too soft as well) as well due to his stylistic choices (his "fullest" was his "Epiphany" cover). Due to the lack of material in his lower range and how under explored it is, I'll give him E3/F3 for lower range for now; his mixed register is his most used register and not surprisingly, his most developed; he sings with a light mix which minimizes strain above his supported range and allows him to sing higher without any problem (which is why he is in charge of the higher range in their songs) but at the same time, he tends to sing too lightly and thus mixed range lacks chest presence/coordination and fullness (I mean he can have his "full" moments when he wants to, but still lacks chest presence/coordination); can support up to F4/F#4 in mixed voice but tightness can occur in mixed voice and gets worse as he gets above supported range; nasality is present throughout (but not as glaring as Keonhee's). 2) Keonhee (Low-Mid Weak-Average/Substandard-Standard/D+) Estimated Supported Range: E3/F3 - E4/F4 At first, I thought he could be fringe average/standard, but as I looked more in-depth in more material, he's more shallow and even more frequently pretty shallow than I initially thought (he's pretty shallow a good amount or even most of the time lmao)...yea, placing Keonhee was quite a journey from fringe A to mid-high W-A to now low-mid W-A (because even Miyeon sounds stronger than he does tbh lol); he sounds around Rose-ish level. His nasality is the most glaring issue and a primary reason why his support isn't "solid" or "full" yet and thus, shallow lol. However, he can have his fuller moments in his own covers (eg Weekly Idol episode with ATEEZ), but yea in ONEUS songs, he is pretty shallow lmao. Based on what I've heard from his covers, he can support down to E3/F3 with sufficiency in chest voice; below that he gets muffled. He can support up to E4/F4 in his mix though his mix is shallow in support ofc and tightness can be found there as well which like Seoho's, gets worse as he gets above supported range. Hm I think Moonbyul, with more materials, has a chance to edge him out even by a slight tbh. 3) Leedo (Underdeveloped/E) Estimated Supported Range: N/A Like all the "claimed" baritones (V, Jaehyun, Sungjae, Seungyoon, Seungmin, Felix, etc.) we all know in KPOP and the rest of his group, Leedo is a tenor (most likely a lower tenor). He does support occassionally though it's quite shallow and weak and very inconsistent (there are times when he does sound like a low D though, and I don't mind if he turns out to be a very low D instead since he and Keonhee don't sound way too far apart lmao), and he's just relaxed most of the time. He doesn't sound as nasal as Seoho or Keonhee even if he's way weaker lol. Like Seoho (but way weaker), he sings way too lightly with lack of true chest development. Airiness/breathiness is a very glaring issue for Leedo which is why he is quite shallow usually (lack of vocal closure/connection). He also has intonation/tuning issues due to his airiness/breathiness. Throat placement can also happen as well iirc. 4) Xion, Ravn, Hwanwoong (Non-vocalists/F) The bottom 3 are interchangeable more or less since none of them have the basics of true technical singing down. They all have various glaring issues, even in their mid-range, that prevents them from being in par with Leedo above them. In my personal ranking, I decided to place Xion above the two since he sounds more relaxed and open/less closed/tight compared to the two below and has shown attempts of chest engagement (it was tense, pushed, and undeveloped, but it can be heard, so A for effort ig lol) in a most recent cover even though he has glaring issues with pitch/intonation (his pitch is quite floppy lol) and lack of confidence (as admitted); Ravn also sounds more relaxed than Hwanwoong as well iirc (he seems to have the best pitch/intonation out of the three based on what I heard so far lol); Hwanwoong gets placed above these two quite frequently due to more singing material ig but I decided to put him below due to his glaring issues with nasality (placement), tightness, tension, and even occasional pitch/intonation issues...he doesn't sound as open and relaxed as either Xion or Ravn from what I heard so far lol. If there is anyone also familiar with ONEUS and disagrees with some part of my analysis, please let me know lol. I mean, I'm still learning after all so not like I'm a true expert or anything lol. ***EDIT: there was a comment some time ago during their "Bring It On" comeback who said that Seoho sounded fuller in their comeback, and while I agree that he doesn't sound as "light" as usual (and he can sound "full" when he wants to), the reason for this is not because of more chest engagement or better chest coordination, but rather because he defaults to a tight throat to produce a "fuller" and "powerful" sound since he doesn't have the chest engagement/coordination to produce this proper type of sound yet; in all of their live performances of "Bring It On" and any live performances when he has to sing in the higher range of their songs, he sounds tight throughout but the strain is not that noticeable because of his light mix. ***EDIT 2: so yes, Seoho’s biggest issue in terms of technique is his underdeveloped/weak chest (TA) engagement/coordination which is why his lower range is underdeveloped and even inconsistent overall and why he has to default to a tight throat for a powerful and fuller sound due to his light mix. Keonhee’s biggest issue is his nasality/projection through the nose (due to not lifting his soft palette), and Leedo’s biggest issue is his breathiness/airiness. ***EDIT 3: after listening to their covers again, I take back Keonhee having stronger chest (TA) engagement/coordination. Also, Seoho can have decent lows when he wants; otherwise, it's pretty inconsistent due to a mix of stylistic choices and underdeveloped chest (TA) engagement/coordination though the weak chest (TA) engagement applies more to his mix.
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
Would seoho be above jongho or below him? I'm not familiar with him at all but I'm trying to get into ONEUS
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon Seoho is below Jongho. iirc, Jongho is mid-average.
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon Oooh you're getting into ONEUS? Yasss they're so cool (with Keonhee climbing up to be one of my ults lol). 😭😭😭
@caryn3503
@caryn3503 Жыл бұрын
Can i ask seventeen members supported range and their tiers?
@wushyringg
@wushyringg Жыл бұрын
Seungkwan Eb3/E3 ~ G#4/A4 High AA DK D3/Eb3 ~ F#4/G4 High A or Low A-AA The leads are in weak tier.
@caryn3503
@caryn3503 Жыл бұрын
@@wushyringg thankyou so much!! I dont know who are the leads vocal you referred to, but is it woozi or hoshi? Or is it joshua?
@wushyringg
@wushyringg Жыл бұрын
@@caryn3503 The 3 of them except Jeonghan from what I've heard (could be wrong).
@caryn3503
@caryn3503 Жыл бұрын
@@wushyringg ohh, and i heard kyuhyun is SM best vocalist, do you know what is his tier?
@wushyringg
@wushyringg Жыл бұрын
@@caryn3503 He's in Good to Great.
@t.t296
@t.t296 Жыл бұрын
My personal opinion Kyujin and Sullyoon are low A
@Hatshe175
@Hatshe175 Жыл бұрын
Both of them are still shallow most of the time. Kyujin is nearer, but I don't see why sullyoon should be in low a tbh, pretty shallow on Bb4s and chord development is closer to the weaks than to the average girls. To be average you should be full most (if not all) the time, sullyoon has her good moments when she puts her body and soul into it, but her muscles aren't that developed to mantain that sound when she isn't putting effort so she ends up in shallow zone with weak tonality. If she's average, then jeongyeon, nayeon, karina, seoun, ella, and pretty much every vocalist *from* mid *to* high w-a should be in the a tier. And for kyujin, she needs more materials. Hyojung, who is probably the lowest average (and i'm not sure, but I think she's still arguably high w-a) has showed better moments and more consistency for sure, so low a isn't secured for her for now (however, I think she will grow into one with time)
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@Hatshe175 agree
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@@Hatshe175 Hyojung lowest average? are you sure
@Hatshe175
@Hatshe175 Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon Is there someone in the A tier lower than her? I'm not 100% sure, but I thought she was the lowest
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@@Hatshe175 Idk but she doesn't sound weaker than chaewon and chaehyun who r estimated to be low to mid average
@pixieefairy1031
@pixieefairy1031 Жыл бұрын
Giselle or rose who's better?
@luigistodomingo170
@luigistodomingo170 Жыл бұрын
we need more materials from giselle but giselle>rosé imo.
@eternaldandaniexol
@eternaldandaniexol Жыл бұрын
Giselle from what I'm hearing
@pixieefairy1031
@pixieefairy1031 Жыл бұрын
Oohh thank u so much guyss🤗
@eternaldandaniexol
@eternaldandaniexol Жыл бұрын
@@Seulgi_bff no tho, I think Nayeon on the higher side
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
@@eternaldandaniexol so Giselle would be at least Mid W-A ?
@lisadeokie5033
@lisadeokie5033 Жыл бұрын
What vocal tier is Kyujin? Does anybody know jiwoos?
@skyline6242
@skyline6242 Жыл бұрын
kyujin is estimated to be a low average & jiwoo is a weak to average
@Linaffsultra
@Linaffsultra Жыл бұрын
Fo now kyujin still W-A
@MuhammadIrfan-be1zt
@MuhammadIrfan-be1zt Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me nmixx all members support range
@mixxtopia4930
@mixxtopia4930 Жыл бұрын
(ALL ESTIMATED) Lily: A3 ~ D5 ~ G5 Haewon: G#3/A3 ~ C5/C#5 ~ Eb5 Kyujin: A3 ~ A4/Bb4 Jinni: A3/Bb3 ~ A4/Bb4 Sullyoon: A3/Bb3 ~ A4/Bb4 Jiwoo: Bb3/B3 ~ G#4/A4 Bae: maybe Bb3/B3 ~ G4/G#4
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
Lily: [G#3]/A3-D5/Eb5-F#5/G5 High AA/Fringe AA-P (B-/B) Haewon: G#3/A3-C#5-Eb5 Low AA (B-) Kyujin: [G#3]/A3-A4/Bb4 High W-A/Fringe Average (D+/C-) Sullyoon: A3/Bb3-Bb4 High W-A (D+) Jinni: A3/Bb3-A4/Bb4 High W-A (D+) Jiwoo: Bb3-G#4/A4 Low W-A (D-) Bae: N/A or B3-G4/G#4 Low Weak (E/E+)
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 i would give Lily already D5/Eb5 shes pretty safe with it
@MuhammadIrfan-be1zt
@MuhammadIrfan-be1zt Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 thanks
@MuhammadIrfan-be1zt
@MuhammadIrfan-be1zt Жыл бұрын
@@days3164 thanks
@kalss7013
@kalss7013 Жыл бұрын
Kyujin already better than jinni?
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
till now yeah
@thek-nerd3143
@thek-nerd3143 Жыл бұрын
She’s more consistent
@nai4624
@nai4624 Жыл бұрын
so far kyujin is more consistent with her approach which is relatively cleaner than w-a tier people but jinni has shown she can produce much fuller sounding notes than kyujin in her mama cover but after debut she sounds quite light and nasal but there's bearly any materials on her if she can consistently sing like her mama cover she will definitely be above kyujin
@shirogane6085
@shirogane6085 Жыл бұрын
@@nai4624 Indeed it looks like they keep pushing Jinni as a rapper, whereas Jiwoo and Bae for the stylistic set up.
@hasanbasri7661
@hasanbasri7661 Жыл бұрын
@@shirogane6085 thats suck..should have they pushed bae and jiwoo for rap..and kyujin, jinni for lead vocalist position
@gladyyudha6792
@gladyyudha6792 Жыл бұрын
Yunjin is the best
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