Meanwhile certain male k-pop stars could commit crimes yet still have people trying to support and defend them 🫠🫠🫠

It’s crazy how female idols, or women in general are deemed as rude or jealous if they aren’t smiling

so true, at the same time imglad i was never a fan of big bang, ftisland yes tho :( what a dissapointment. so sad and pittiful....on the other hand i LOVED KaRa & Fx i was only 13 around that time and it brought me into the worl of korean music history and k dramas

​@@balala5430it's weird cz when women do smile.....it's suggested that they are giving hints with that smile that they might b "overfriendly n interested in YOU" can we breathe please🤌

Now I know why EXO’s Chen don’t want his daughter to be an idol

HONESTLY!! I wish that Korea took cases like these more seriously and gave the women who experienced these disgusting acts more justice.

​@@-.severly.depressed.-OMG FR

Sounds like Canada... 🫠🙃 Sigh

It's all about money and power, unfortunately... the authorities are involved sometimes, too.

@@lupitamendiolar5262 I know right I wish that it was not like that

This makes the women in the 4b movement that much braver for attempting to resist such violent misogyny.

literal insanity. They get gang-r8ped at work (so i’ve heard, and even have korean friends who left the country to work in China), and have to keep quiet because men talk. If a woman pursues legally, the men of her company will tell top people at neighboring companies that “she’s a talker” which spells trouble. She’ll ultimately be jobless is what I’m saying. Because they won’t hire a woman who wants to stand up for herself and expose them. So sadly, many (although not all) of the men are in on this together. It’s a cultural issue to be sure… what I find interesting is that on the flip side, model culture in Asia (and concommitantly, sex culture) mirrors these same atrocities as sexual fantasies; i.e. being tied up (BDSM), kidnapped, r*ped at work. It’s all there, and its actually popular culture with MILLIONS of views. And nobody is forcing these women btw. Although its sad that it does happen to women who aren’t willing, there are many women (really speaking about Japan and Taiwan here with their booming adult entertaiment industry) who are willing to be portrayed in this way, and quite frankly, they are enjoying the hell out of themselves and making money doing it. Food for thought. Regardless…. burning sun is sickening and infuriating, and is not justifiable by any means whatsoever. Let that be clear. The south Korean justice system definiely needs a tune-up, but obviously so does S.K. society in general. And lets give korea a break for a second here- because this is a GLOBAL ISSUE. Korea is taking all of the heat of late, but this is literally happening everywhere. It happens at the Superbowl, and at Disneyland in America every single day. Trafficking. Completely out of congtrol and just downright unbelievable that that shit is going on beneath the sparkling surface of “happiest place in the world” (disney). It is not.

And people still have the nerve to claim that misogyny doesn't exist and that women are just overexaggerating and playing the victim because they want attention smh, I seriously hate it here.

The most shocking thing with this, is that not only men defend those trash bags, but some women defend them too because they idolize those trash bags.

​@@Kalakeiko It is different in different societies

@@Aween241 And that doesn't surprise me. Live a couple more decades and you'll be desensitized.

@@Flamsterette I don't want to be desensitized to the injustice and horror in this world.

@@Flamsterettewhy are you like this? It's not about you

That’s funny bc women who aren’t passed around don’t want men that are passed around

With his new reputation it is now more like a woman wants a man that has NOT been round the block a few times !! Seungri gave a slightly sleezy impression even BEFORE this blew up in his face. I think his dreams of dating a decent gal are long out of the window and offering.

​@@marlee7389She was an angel, hurt and suffering but She help to have the truth, have a boyfriend or defend yourself sont makes you the bad person

@marlee7389 You're not her nor privy to the information you speak of. It's easy to say speak up when your life isn't being threatened. None of us know 100% of what she was trying to navigate through nor what she was truly up against. Also we can't be 100% sure it was suicide on her behalf. That's only what was perceived and told. The reality SHE DID speak up. There are tons of others leaving and breathing that have chosen to stay quiet.

​@@marlee7389you don't know that nor do you have evidence to back up your claims about her character. The fact is, she didn't have to help, yet she did, actively seeking out the reporter. She did much more than the big mouth stans or haters or whatever creepy fandoms and anti-fandoms did, which is only to run their mouths and idolize or stigmatize people who's personal business shouldn't be of any of the public's concern. Honestly, the parasocial relations celebrities and Idols have to endure are insane, I'll never understand how people feel entitled to judge their personal lives.

God imagine investing so much time in another’s life🙄 instead of ur own Korea is weird beautiful place but the celebrities have it much worse over their 🥲

@@gloriasilva1602 This is not just a "Korea" thing.

its all about saving face and how you are percieved by the masses, since online you are anonymous you get away with it. fucking sucks

​@@kkamajwithe good thing is that people learn now that online anonymity doesn't work anymore one's a lawsuit gets involved. But yeah the hypocrisy is plastered big time! Also big bullying scandals are much more common with female idols, again hypocrisy.

And they act like such a puritan Christian country judging women for being promiscuous meanwhile majority of them would happily partake in this 🙄 at least Japan embraced their “hentai” label.

I know I wanna see some names! they don't deserve privacy for saying the shit they said to Goo Hara, especially after she attempted the first time. gotta give them the good ol fashion street justice internet style

​@@RadenWAtbf that's exactly how Puritan culture treated women, so it tracks.

"Misguided" This shit is outright delusional

For real 👏🏼👏🏼

"Misguided," no they are just terrible people by nature. How is it possible for a person to hate other people without adequate information and knowingly want to engender pain in a person?? On top of all of that, they absolutely destroyed her life and led to her suicide. These people really make me lose hope for societies like South Korea's; always blaming the woman. I get it now why most women don't want to marry, the way parents raise their males really projects their future attitudes.

yesssss 👌👌👌

@@MusicAt2am they are also here in her comment section like they are kinda insane it is as if you are talking to a brick but thats an insult to every brick i ever talked too..

Ikr

my heart hurts for her

It's tragic and so strong of her not to give up until the end, she is a hero!

Really heartbreaking

No wonder he chose Cambodia.

I am a Big Ban lover but never felt right about him. He always gave me the creeps, and this is just further proof he is a disgusting human being

There was rumors that Seungri was considering opening a new club in Hong Kong before it was disproved, and it was publicly denounced. But the fact that he's free ...doesn't inspire much confidence another club won't emerge in governments that are corrupt or places where money is above morals.

at this point he needs to be d worded.

His clients will be the Khmer Rouge and Bill Clinton plus Epstein’s former friends.

yup!

Same human behavior and discrimination only the platform changed

@@chelleb.9759 exactly and what really scares me for those people who're obsessed with kdramas and kpop prolly thinks that every Skorean guys are like that typical perfect 6ft,romantic and caring boyfriend just like what they showed it on medias

​@@teddyperth4931actually most of us who are adults have rational functioning brains and know that's not true. A lot of us are here watching the video, so how could we think that?

@@ComedyGlorehh I wouldn’t say most and not all Korean obsessed k-pop fans are here. But some are in these comments defending idols. If it doesn’t apply to you, you shouldn’t be offended, but honestly the comment was a warning.

@@reix7494 *WAS

god bless her pure souls :(🫂

Found Hara's nudes. Pretty nice!

So many have blood on their hands...but they will get theirs. Lady K never forgets.

You are also probably one of those people who bashed her left and right online at one point when she was alive because that’s how Korean people drove so many celebrities to take their life.

@@Jackpoleethat’s not a nice assumption to make. I don’t think you should say something like that 🫤

yup and you have people like hyuna who literally is in a relationship with a man who took part in the burning sun scandal. its disturbing

​@@pwixieWho? If it's that guy she was marrying or smth, didn't they break up?

@@caliperez5397hyuna is with someone in the burning sun. Her hag ass posts proudly with him

How??? How could they support what they do ? it’s sickening

@@caliperez5397thats dawn and its not him. its yong junhyung

For real.😢 Her story is sooo tragic.😢 She didn’t deserve any of the bad things that happened to her.

Guys always go scott free?😅

yeah it too bad

So much evolution and humanity, but we still have misogyny.

I don't think its misogyny as they do the same behavior with male idols or actors. I think it's jealousy and entitlement. The public truly believe they have ownership over these celebrities because they think they created them. It's delulu. The celebrity provides a service its not like these people support them for nothing. I have never witnessed such atrocious comments and abusive behavior as I have with asian male actors. That's why I stay away. So, I am not certain if it's misogyny as much as entitlement. There is definitely misogyny in SK govt. But I still believe it's delusional entitlement because neitezens are just as awful.

@@charissa6648 I see your point, but it seems like male idols have less rules that they have to follow in society compared to female idols.

​@@charissa6648It's both. Misogyny in SK these days is so bad that a full on gender war is happenibg

misogyny runs SK, the president has incel policies...

That’s South Korea. But they only focus on the bad things in North Korea because they havent bowed down to Western leaders

and seniority as well... even in live public broadcast, there must be a consensual agreemente which topics could be discussed or not, especially about the private life... i know the hosts were also "forced" by the tv producers to keep asking hara private life, but how many "no" should be stated before they must stop asking...

I keep thinking S.Korea can't sink any lower in terms of how women are treated there, and I keep getting proven wrong with a new episode of RottenMango.

right? for a first world country, it's shocking how awfully backwards SK is

Lets not make this about men and turn this into some kind of feminist crusade . Because women with power behave just as badly as men with power. These are just bad people doing bad things to others plain and simple.

Probably happy about having that kind of influence. These people are antisocial to begin with. No sane person gives That much of an F about an idol dating.

they are sick! sick to the core!

Thats a reflection of whom they really are

ended 2 PEOPLES lives, two friends got attacked the same way by K-netizens and killed off by their hands. I really hope they're living in guilt and shame.

They dont really care. The sad thing is some of these netizens actually gets paid for posting bad stuff... yea... its sad.

She has no shame

@@Anonymous07n what about him? You are doing the same thing that they did to Goo Hara

@@stacyinfishers no it's totally different, goo hara didn't do anything wrong , she didn't date a guy who was involved in burning sun , she didn't date a guy for almost 8 years , and leave him just few months after engagement , hyuna is totally wrong this time , making her career on women empowerment and then this

​@stacyinfishers to marry the same man who abused your friend is crazy even worse than the fact that, that monster is still living his life happily. But Hyuna's choice is beyond baffling. Leaving a guy who loved her for her friends abuser I can't think of anything more shameful than that. Unless he blackmailed or something which could be true bcz who in their right mind would accept this man

@@Anon1_07 i think they're different person, the guy who abused and blackmailed Hara is not who Hyuna is marrying, but Yoon Junhyung is questionable at the same time for being involved with the chat group with Seungri

How long did it take for that blond gay woman to be cancelled? She was relentless to her guests too and it took a loooong while for her to go 🤷‍♀️

Unfortunately, that's not really true. Even in Western countries, people persecute and bully female celebrities way more than male ones. And a lot of male "seniors" abuse their position there too

Oh please did elen get cancelled, she has been harassing people about their dating life

@@akshayaravi7680 yes she did. Why do you think she doesn't have a show anymore

Exactly. But some fans are just blind.

You mean he is big bang theory?

I'm glad he's out of the group... he really disappointed his hyungs who have tried to tell him to get new and better friends... But alas, who knew that he's already become a vile person🤮🤧😤

@@carenmanyonge7795 I don't know if it's sarcasm or not 😆 But if not, I'm talking about Big Bang, one of the most popular Kpop bands.

His insecurities swallowed him

Lol...for these lacking little effeminate creeps, one day in prison will be too much. There are 2 crimes not accepted by other prisoners. Those are crimes against children and crimes against women. The punishment is quite severe. They will never again be able to harm another in their life. Personally, I take solace in this.

that reminds me of the silenced movie (its on tubi and a really is realistic "tw the have r, sa , and pedophilia" especially with child actors I watched it but I had to skip some scenes)

It is sad, the korean law is very bad! Even if someone murder a person, that person still doesn't get much jail time. 😢

FR and not even mentioning the amount of money they had to spend to try to recover to be “normal” again. these women/victims really should be compensated.

@@Kkyoyajj korean police make me so sick or even the law system itself. you should watch the case of the 13-15 who killed the 18 boy and got away with it. i think its called most evil teens in south korea that got away with murder.

And it shows that you never know who these celebrities really are.

Same

Yeah, like they basically paid to SA someone. They had the money, they could've paid a sex worker, but nope, they were sick.

So so inhuman

@@asobimo5532pay a “sex worker”? Where do you think sex workers come from? They come from pimps/Johns!! Yes, they too, are trafficked!

Gonna write to her..."you're entitled to your own life choices however I do hope common sense finds you soon" as said by Stephanie herself

i was looking for this comment because i was a huge fan of hyuna and i’m so beyond disappointed in her. she really betrayed her fans, because so many of us admired her for the way she portrayed herself as a feminist. but even worse, she betrayed the legacy of her supposed friend, goo hara. it’s truly shameful.

wait hold up after so many years she chickened out of marrying dawn to then go and marry another man? its clear that she didn't love that man as much as he loved her cause wth!

WHAT?!

@@silverfoxdemon9292I heard it’s cause she got knocked up

i relate to this so much.

@@minhakos I'm desensitized to that, luckily.

He’ll REAP WHAT HE SOWED … JUSTICE WILL STALK HIM. 🤍🙏🏽

I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, Sulli also suffered on live TV when some self-important jerk in the audience says she (and her other f(x) members) should lose weight. It's terrible to watch because Sulli is the only one apologizing to him. The other members go silent and Krystal clearly laughs mockingly at the guy. Amber stands up to him which is great to see though.

@@chibikyo7 that is so sad to hear. God. These girls deserved better. They really, really did. After all of that, I never looked at Kpop the same way again.

Yea definitely wish I could’ve watched this when everything was happening. At the time I didn’t know the severity of their treatment and just thought it was the stress of being an idol 😞

@@MegaHoopsandyoyo I had already distanced myself a bit from the Kpop scene by that time, so when this news broke I was disgusted. They're really good putting on a fake smiling face due to what is expected of them as idols. But while there are some good people, there are alot who suffer behind the scenes. This was just gross on all counts. Not just because of the men involved, but because of the sasaengs.

That is part of a much broader discussion of fan/stan culture that someone needs to explore, because it is extremely unhinged.

Sick society.

Stan culture in itself is unhinged which is why I wished we stopped using the word stan because it’s a combination of stalker and fan. If you're a celebrity and you commit a crime I hate to say this but you'd still have fans. Like Dahmer, he wasn't even a celebrity but some people defended him for the sake of “he's hot” when he murdered and ate people. So it’s not surprising when you realize deranged fans are willing to go too far. But it is disappointing. Because you don't have to agree with these people to not support crimes, you just have to be human.

even now, kpop stans are harassing and abusing palestinians who are also in the fandom for the mere ask of acknowledgements from idols. sick, sick fans who are so deluded that they are willing to cross lines of humanity to continue their idol worship

@@blaiseywaiseyriot I get it disgusting for stans to harass Palestinians but like why tf would you want a KPOP IDOL to speak about that! like they can't even wear certain color of clothing when it's around election time because korean fans would think they are supporting a party

This saddens me and it's quite alarming how they worship celebrities as gods. It's fucked up. They put them in a pedestal as if they are holy and failed to accept the reality that the person they are adoring is a monster (molesting women for sex and invading their boundaries without their consent or knowing) ughhhh. Wake up kpop fans who keep on stanning this psycho men. The world is getting darker day by day.

Welcome to S.Korea, it's always the woman's fault.

What's new?

​@@danielajesus9264They're being called out publicly at least. You used to get burned for that

​@@falconeshield they're free... Living around happily like this has never happened. The only way is to repeating this issue because they are currently free

All their sentences were a joke. And it makes me so sad cuz I really liked JJY’s music 😭😭

​@@jaynazzar2539YES. I liked his band and now I feel guilty for listening to his music. Like what a waste of vocals and oxygen

@@lonelypotatojinneverfound378 I know. Drug Restaurant was my first K-rock band.

​@@jaynazzar2539the fact that its called drug restaurant...

stephanie came here to clock people she was not playing

that was class

Period 👏🏻

Fr no one ever talks about the fact that Sulli was GROOMED. Considering she was 19, there was definitely some grooming involved before they began dating. Yet she’s the one that gets blamed for their relationship.

I'm surprised that Stephanie didn't mentioned about grooming and age power imbalance about their relationship timeline and 14 year age differences. It doesn't matter if Sulli is "19 and legal", it doesn't mean she is romantically attracted to him. she was BARELY a grown adult and her maturity level doesn't match his. She was looking for a father figure or older brother figure who can treat her right. 19 year old and a 33 year old has nothing in common with each other. He was looking for control, and took advantage of her situation.

@@nicatina She'll probably talk about in part 3's video

@@nicatina *MENTION

@@katierodrigo5893 Spell out your words. And no, that does not excuse anything.

The evil demons left for Asia... and yet ppl dont realize the patterns-YET. Bring the people from the shadows into the light!

Only in SK would have this type of law enforcement.

@@viragoviolet5136 Uh no.

Exactly, it's so disgusting that the obsessed unhinged level of 'fans' think celebrities don't deserve any privacy or happiness. I don't understand why kpop idols, especially women, have to appear 'single and available' to the audience. I adore some actors like Murakami and Yamazaki but I don't have a chance at dating either of them. It's so horrible and tragic how many public figures in Asia are bullied to death. I don't think public attitude has changed at all, women are blamed for anything they wear/do. I love Stephanie's storytelling and how respectful she is to the victims/families.

Well, not too long ago, Karina of Aespa was exposed for her alleged love relationship with a me actor well-known for his role in the TV dramas The Alchemy of Souls and Extraordinary You. She officially came back with a formal handwritten letter of apology

The worst part is that the companies these idols are working for actually ENCOURAGE this behavior from fans. They make their musicians pander to fans which foster the stans' entitled behavior.

it's not just the fans... even the hosts of their talk shows seems to be really uneducated about this thing called "decency"... it seems they're foreign to the word... when you look at things on the surface, it would seem like the women in south korea are living a much life than their north korea counterparts... but when you look at it deeply, you can tell that they're not that different at all... life in north korea maybe hard, but i don't think their celebrities, especially the women, don't get treated this way, by their fans... its just sad that these kpop idols go through so much hardships when they were training yet get so much hate once they become popular for doing something that is normal... it's just crazy how south korean fans act like psychos...

I find it baffling that some of these “fans” can be this vile. Victim blaming, abuser enabling, and a sad sad waste of life hiding behind their keyboards and make this level of bullying their personality- or lack of. So involved in other peoples lives when they should really be focusing on their own. Both gangs and cults have purpose and hierarchy. The main difference is their purpose comes with code and hierarchy is clear - a cult revolves around a specific ideology or charismatic leader that exerts strong influence over its members. The best part about this is that the toxic fan base is nothing more than a cult and they are die hard worshippers who will defend these celebrities and their actions while being in denial of brainwash. And just like dogs they can be trained to bite when their master tells them - nothing more than a group of b****.

Yet ppl have the nerve to claim that we don't need feminism :(

May they all rest in peace and find the comfort they deserve.

And they wonder why all over the world the birthrates are falling. They’re acting so surprised women just don’t want to deal with any of it. Too much happens to us that’s explained away, swept under the rug, or straight up ignored. I feel for women/girls all over the world. 🥺

@@chinaking918 You literally can’t even enter a KZfaq comment section without a horde of men calling women stupid, ugly, useless, gold diggers, worthless - then they wonder why we don’t want anything to do with them. We finally see what their inner voice says about us. I’m happy to stay away from them for the entirety of my life.

You do realize that most of the people who supported (and are still supporting) these people (male idols), giving them fame, wealth and power, are women right? These are the people who are also harassing victims, reporters and anyone else who are trying to seek justice. These are also the people who are harassing female idols for dating their bias (their favourite idol). But of course, let's blame the men only. Also - it seems like taking personal responsibility and being responsible for your safety isn't something that parents instill into their children these days. This goes for both men and women. Clubs are not safe places, if you do not go with a group of trusted friends where one person does not drink (designated driver), you should not go to clubs. If someone rich and famous invites you to drink with them, a nobody, you should think about why they are inviting you and what they want from you. Similarly, if you do not want the risk of having your nudes circulated online (be it via hacks, revenge posting, etc.), DON'T TAKE THEM. It's not the fault of the victims that they are SAed / robbed / etc., it is ALWAYS a crime to SA / rob / etc., let's be clear on that - but you cannot expect the world to always be safe and for the law to always protect you. You are your own first responder, and ideally, you should reduce the unnecessary risks you put yourself into. If you choose to take those risks however, you should be cognizant that you WILL be impacted EVEN IF you eventually do get justice.

With her WHOLE chest 👏👏

Amen! She is coming for necks! I was like you go girl!

@@LilacFairy1 Ew, nobody is saying anything with chests or necks. Gen Z is gross. 😂🤣

@@ViviDeMonroe Gross Gen Z. 😂🤣

@@Flamsterette lol okay boomer

10:49, it's so sickening how some fans will defend the faves up to that point. Reminds me of the Kris Wu situation

Proper English is a good idea here.

Literally at some point you lose your cool seeing people defend s3x tr4ffickers and r-worders casually. The cognitive dissonance mixed with that pick me energy(since a lot of kpop fans are women)to sympathise with him is crazy. Seeing people enable hardcore criminals while they obliterate online people who only do substances and only hurt themselves. Those instances make me think that we live in a simulation because how can you defend this ? It shows the levels of internalised misogyny especially among male kpop idols' fans. They are willing to not have any ounce of sympathy and to not look at the proofs....

You wonder 😊 women are the wost, the can hate you for being perfect, pretty or rich more than them, The enemy of women is another woman

Same here. Send you big hugs, if consent

I totally forgot that kyuhyun was part of radio star... im not sure if he tried to steer the topic away but I can't look at him the same anymore... and he was one of my favorites in super junior....

​@@meia002 I think I remember read his interview somewhere that this show's signature pushing boundaries interview is one of the main reason he leave the show, he feels guilty about it but at the same time he signed the contract knowing the kind of dynamic this show offer

@@CloveRheisyl People like you are the problem. So quick to defend a man you don't even know. " it was in his contract" to what ? Harass a woman? He feels bad about it, so it's all forgiven?? Honestly, I urge you to think more sensibly about this, he was a grown man who treated another human being with 0 respect. All ya'll parasocial idiots are the reason these people still have careers.

Unfortunately this is not the only instance where Kyuhyun from Suju has made nasty comments/ questions to other idols in these old shows. I always wondered whether this was scripted or if was him. I always cringed when this happened because you can tell the idols where extremely uncomfortable.

Not all Korean men are like this shut up

Democrap=

Not locked up, public ex-

@@ArtIsDrawing lmao fr

There were pictures he posted on Insta recently where he was caught by two girls whom he was meant to be seeing exclusively. They went on a trip to Bali with him, to the same place one ate the other. Literally dropped one off at the airport and then picked up the second one. The guy is basically a lust monster and it’s terrifying to know he’s not only free but he’s also looking to restart his business.

He chose cambodia, because cambodia doesn't care about women's right.

​@@ezura4760 he is active back in insta ?

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, whether it's rooted in reality or not" 🤣 that made lol for real

@@VipesVonHarlot she ate with that

real.. one time i commented on his fan post abt him going around in indonesia (since im from there) "how come they still stanning him?" they send me longgg longgg longgg comment basically saying he already pay his sin and he is a scapegoat .. i was like? what where is the common sense here...

They are so delusional it’s unbelievable

@@corninandoutga heran, orang indo banyak yang buta dan fanatik sekalinya udh cinta sama kpop idol

@@corninandout for real? at this point they need a whole pool of holy water, no.. A WHOLE sea of it

​@@corninandout offenders like him 18 months of jail time wasn't enough... they've probably used some money to lower their sentence. their police are corrupt then their knetz are whole delusional. What can we expect they can even condemn a woman who didn't do anything even to the smallest details they keep digging in order to crucify her was really insane. the bullying is to the highest degree. They're gonna cancel you just because you are not pleasing to their eyes it is so unhinged, what's more it's being adopted by other countries because of kpop influence. Fans now are getting out of hand that they made it seem like they're the one who gave birth to these celebrities and they aren't allowed to deviate from what they imagine them to be.

sadly in some places women themselves will look at another woman going through sexual abuse and do nothing

​@@flaky_salt sadly, some women SA other women, too

@@damien678 I know , I didn't mention it in purpose since I've been through it makes me spiral into sh . I know its kinda insensitive for me to dismiss the issue but i just cant really mention about it for now 🤕

our beautiful princesses :(

It’s also women who hurt them the most. The internet haters full of spite harassing them would be female. The world is a really weird and messed up place. 😢

My Shawol and Aroha heart is happy to see this kind of kind messages

As a Shawol, tysm ❤

I struggled with kpop as a shawol after what happened. I wish I could have known what was happening to her when it happened. I hope they're all resting well, and are happy

im confused as to why everyone ignores the things lee sun cyan has done? no saying that he deserved to pass away, but he wasn't all that much a great person either

Was moonbin' death confimerd by suicide? I thoughg he was sick

EDawn deserves a monetary compensation after this mess honestly. That boy was too good for Hyuna.

​​​@@alexlefay @tasi4372 bruh you both literally doing what those bullies stephanie narrates only attacking the girl and leaving out the boy making him look so clean that is sickening too. hyuna might did wrong but dang only attacking her is such a mistske too

​@@UserA7-ec6wtthank you!! We all grow up in a patriarchy and learn to behave this same way - it's up to us to unlearn it but the brainwashing is strong 😢

I don’t think goo hara and hyuna were that close. Regardless, as someone who admired and was a fan of hyuna and saw her as a girl’s girl…infuriating

@@UserA7-ec6wtwait what boy? Dawn or hyuna boyfriend?

Mrs. Soo was snapping😂

"He's not going to pick you regardless of how many media articles you self publish for him or how many Twitter essays you write." Gag em, sis! 😅😎

That is the most respectful way I’ve ever heard someone say “STFU!”

I was so sad hearing about Sulli. Then to hear her best friend GooHara a month later, after watching her video crying so hard about learning about her friend Sulli.

i miss sulli sm:(

@@nancikuba42 Ikr. I can't imagine the pain they went through. And their family must still be devastated.

@@sofialorainedelfonso5936 I miss her too. I even remember reading the news on the day she passed away, 14th October. She was someone I admired. 🥺

Yes they are so childish and insane

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I'm proud of s.korean women for the lower birth rate now..I have seen too many cases like this in s.k and just want it to stop..

They're hardcore kpop fans. There's no saving them. These are people who worship the ground idols walk and believe themselves to be special to the idols. Simply put they're delulu.

​@@user-wx3ft1np3pmeanwhile the idols don't even care about them and they are just using them mostly for money

@@cupcake-cx5ov true. And also to grow their popularity. I don't mean to hate the idols. And maybe they do care for their fans. For fans to think to themselves that one day maybe their oppa would look at them is simply insane. I think there is this one group where they had to change their choreography because it included women in it and the fanbase when insane. Enhypen I think.

@@user-wx3ft1np3p that's one of the crazy case of parasocial relationship...

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I LOVE IT!

Hmph, whiff of R.Kelly and Aaliyah.

I was so heart broken hearing about Sulli, especially how bullied she was. She was my bias.

this!!! no one will ever make me like him. Sulli didn’t deserve that

Choiza is a disgusting pos. In fact, he came on a talk show and said Lee Dong Wook distanced himself from Choiza because LDW felt being friends with Choiza wasn't good for his career. Imagine, his own friends(that were not low lives themselves) were disgusted with him and didn't want anything to do with him.

Isn't choiza CJ? I thought he was dating hara?

Did kyuhyun tried to stop this or shift the topic somewhere else? He's one of the hosts and I totally forgot about that. I am trying so hard not to look at him differently

JYP looked incredibly uncomfortable and kinda concerned

​@@meia002He's the one who said "If I open my mouth I could end Goo Hara" thing. Tbh it was really disappointing to see him do that to her, I had hoped that he would try to defend her a bit because they're from the same company, but nah, he even said some even more ridiculous things after that. How absurd.

@@phoque9713 hmm yea I can't see him the same anymore

Same, nowadays I'm kinda picky of what idol groups I genuinely like, groups who do put a façade and what group rarely listen to.

Yeah, the fan culture is also a huge problem because in general fans put celebrities on pedestals and forget that they are human too. But in Korean fan culture they prioritize certain things (like idols avoiding relationships for the most part from my knowledge. Please correct me if I'm wrong 😅) that in Western cultures aren't a bad thing.

​@@jenmiranda13 Western fans also idolize people like Nicki Minaj and defend her. If you know what her husband did, and how many defend her and her husband. Not only that. Half western artists and fandoms are and had done worse than dating...

Same lately i dont really stan any groups/artists anymore, i stan their music and keep myself updated on comebacks and news but i don’t idolize the artists themselves for anything aside from music anymore.

@@humh123yep thats me. i stopped being a stan completely. i keep everything at arm's length now, especially if they're men, considering the reputation men have in SK.