DX Commander Vs End Fed Half Wave

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Which Antenna Would You Chose If You Could Only Have One Antenna? The DX Commander, Or An End Fed Half Wave? Hunting POTA From Inside A Park: Are You Only A Hunter? A Cool Stand For The Nano VNA H4
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@johnk8091 Жыл бұрын

I will go for the EFHW every time - soooooooooooo much easier and quicker to setup, lighter, no nasty radials to lay out and packs much smaller for portable ops

@che59v Жыл бұрын

One more great video packed with information, many thanks for your effort and time taken to put those videos for all to watch. Your videos are fair and honest (a rare find those days).

@Toner-N1SWT Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback on the POTA logging. I was not logging as a hunter when I was in a park but I will make sure I upload my log going forward. Thanks Mike

@hemitj Жыл бұрын

Mike, thank you for being informative, helpful, entertaining and just AWESOME! Thank you for the work that you do to help out the hobby! I am studying for my license and look forward to making contact with you one day soon

@Toner-N1SWT Жыл бұрын

I have a Par End-fedz antenna and it works great for me. Most of my contacts have been on 20 and 40 meters the last few months. I have worked most of the US states except the far west coast and I am in Rhode Island. Very happy with mine.

@stevet7522 Жыл бұрын

I personally like the MyAntennas EFHW and random wire transformers. They are expensive though but built soooo well.

@WILLIAMPERRELLI 11 ай бұрын

I hv one. Very nice unit. Have u looked into a Hy end fed brand?

@o00scorpion00o 7 ай бұрын

@@WILLIAMPERRELLI I have the hyenfed 80-10m 49:1 and it's excellent, got the 1 Kw version with compensation capacitor for 80m which increased resonance from around 3500 Khz to 3700 Khz without needing to shorten the antenna which will mess up the other bands. I've no problem making contacts all over the world. I have it in a sloping inv L config. It was just easier for me to do it this way because trees are never where you want them to be but the first half is up around 70 feet and the other half slops down from 70 feet to 3 feet, I have the UNUN there around 3 feet off the ground and it's grounded there.

@lanceriffle4841 Жыл бұрын

Recently purchased to DX Commander Signature 9, the guyless version you slip over a tube in the ground. I now really enjoy jumping from band to band and not having to turn down the power to tune or listing to relay chatter. Good answer to a tough question.

@KeepEvery1Guessing Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Mike. It's always great to see the cat.

@davidwilcox9110 Жыл бұрын

I like my MyAntennas 40-10 end fed. Two of my friends have the 80-10 versions and we all like them. Well built. They work as advertised. Dave K8WPE

@mrtechie6810 7 ай бұрын

If only they were cheaper. I am outside the U.S. and it's $150 shipped for their cheapest EFHW! Looking for a high efficiency DIY version for 80-10m.

@neilmccormick9871 Жыл бұрын

Walt at TennTennas is awesome! Extremely helpful, friendly and makes an awesome product. I have the 100 watt version for QRP with my IC-705. Super easy to tune and get working.

@randymclain4195 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike for your answer on the antenna question. As far as space I have 5 acres behind my shack for antennas. I really like the DX commander so I think it will get first pick. After looking at the Tenn Tenna EFHW I think I may be able to to get both. Really appreciate you brother! NB5Z

@hamradiotube Жыл бұрын

Ahh, both is always the better answer! Glad to help.

@canadavey 2 ай бұрын

Know what I love most about your videos? Your cat walking around in the background... :) (sorry, I'm a cat guy...)

@hamradiotube 2 ай бұрын

He's my producer.

@canadavey 2 ай бұрын

@@hamradiotube you mean Purrducer 😂

@kwilde1131 Жыл бұрын

I have that same Par. It has worked well for me thus far.

@sciencefollower Жыл бұрын

Dear Mike, very much appreciated.

@geoffh784 Жыл бұрын

I own 2 par end fedz, 1 is a 40-10 QRP (used portable) and the other is an 80m high power (used at home) both work as expected and have been totally reliable over a couple of years.

@Roddy1965 4 ай бұрын

Aye, I have a ParEndFedz same except the normal power rating. It's been outside permanently in Ontario weather -30C to +35C, winter storms etc. and it's been flawless.

@Philip-KA4KOE Жыл бұрын

I just recently built a 40-10m EFHW...after seeing a bunch of videos by Mike, figured I needed to get on the bandwagon. I have not been disappointed.

@n0vty873 Жыл бұрын

I have an MFJ 80-10 HP EFHW. It would not resonate anywhere. So I opened it up. Re-wound the 49:1 unun on their original core. (It did not look right when I opened it. Replaced the high voltage cap with one I had. Low and behold it was resonant on several bands but upper bands were way to high. So I added a couple turns to the coil that was in the wire. And BOOM! I contacted MFJ about this and got no response. figures.

@Aswaguespack 4 ай бұрын

A good example of why I have decided to personally take a No-MFJ Product Position in my Shack. If the MSRP of any product is too good to be true then it’s likely not worth getting and something I stay away from. For a few dollars more you can find a better built device from another manufacturer.

@n0vty873 4 ай бұрын

I did find a better one, MINE@@Aswaguespack

@kendebusk2540 Жыл бұрын

Anyone with a beautiful black kitty like the one I saw here has to be a good guy :) I had one for almost 20 years, sadly he's gone now, but was one of the best cats I've owned. Scratch that, I don't own cats, they own me ;) Oh yeah, the ham content is good also!

@Aimsport-video Жыл бұрын

Sma 2 sma adapter will extend the sma and protect the VNA sma pins from wear.

@pentrus4781 Жыл бұрын

I have the four band par enzfed and it is nearly 1:1 on 20 meters and 1:1.5 which are the two bands I use most. Had it up for for a few years. Works well.

@SmokeSignalsRF Жыл бұрын

Great show (as always). I recently purchased the Nelson EFHW, 65ft 10m-40m. The antenna build is A+++. I added my own winder for easy deployment/storage. This will be my 2023 Field Day Antenna. 🎙️W1FYG

@NSNorfolk Жыл бұрын

100% agree with your position on uploading POTA logs! It's a widespread frustration that particularly irks me. I upload my logs as soon as I get home, for the most part. On a couple late-nighters, I uploaded the next day. They ought to have an award for prompt uploaders at 3 levels Gold, within 6 hours of the last contact. Silver, within 24 hours, and Bronze at 48 hours. That'd get the logs loaded up!

@petemillis4666 Жыл бұрын

It's annoying that people these days expect logs to be uploaded almost instantly. It's ok for ops who have a shedload of free time, but for some of us we're lucky if we get an hour here and there to operate, and then it's back to real life. My wwff logs get uploaded when I find the time to get on the PC. At the moment I've got some to upload from months ago. Fortunately wwff ops are generally patient. Tempted to start just doing cards through the bureau!

@temporarilyoffline Жыл бұрын

I like the new rug. It really ties the room together.

@hamradiotube Жыл бұрын

Thank you. You're the first person to notice. Everyones so focused on the cat toys!

@CKJEntertainmentServ Жыл бұрын

Ive used efhw. Currently have a DX commander classic for tx, and have a horizontal delta loop for rx. I get GREAT sugnal reports with my dx commander, and im surrounded by power lines to.

@TinyTJ04 Жыл бұрын

I had an issue with an EFHW from a reputable US made antenna company and what they figured out was that their torrid manufacturer had changed the formula without them knowing. They did a quick redesign and switched manufacturers and formulas the new one works well.

@petemillis4666 Жыл бұрын

How can a toroid manufacturer just "change formula" of a toroid? They are manufactured to a particular specification. It's not like they can just device to make a type 43 ferrite toroid from some type 73 material. More likely the item sold to you was faulty or the toroid was from a cheap manufacturer, and the unun manufacturer / supplier wanted to pass the buck.

@MikeN2MAK Жыл бұрын

That's really cool for the NanoVNA

@don_n5skt Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the Satan video. Kept getting distracted and had to replay to catch what you were saying. He was especially funny when he was watching you from behind talk about POTA logging. It is always nice to get Satan's opinion on things. He has a real good perspective 😆

@hamradiotube Жыл бұрын

I read this to Satan and he didn't seem to be interested in your mere human opinion. I, on the other hand agree with you.

@don_n5skt Жыл бұрын

@@hamradiotube I appreciate your efforts and I totally understand.

@gtretroworld Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed that buddy,first time viewer here from the UK,have a Subscribe.

@hamradiotube Жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@KeithS_WA6QXA Жыл бұрын

I have the Par EFHW 10-40M version(EF-Quad). It tunes under 2:1 on all 4 Bands w/o a tuner. I bought it for Portable Op. What I don't like about it, is it is bulky & has stubs for the different Bands which adds to the Bulk. I purchased the TennTennas EFHW based based on Mikes reviews & am very happy with this antenna, where I have 3 of them now. Very well built, compact & tunes well on 10,15,20 & 40M w/o a Tuner. Add the Strain relief, which Mike has a video out on How-To. TennTennas are Great, and the price is right! You will have to put your own wire on them, trim & tune, but that is part of the Ham experimentation fun!

@walteredwards544 Жыл бұрын

If I owned a home and done land, my dream set-up would be a DX Commander for the DX and Ground Wave contacts and a EFHW antenna for the NVIS and Short Skip contact's. I'd also have a big fat Diplexer in my shack to control it all. Biggest thing about the EFHW is height above ground to get that low take off angle. This combo solves that problem for me anyway

@markwilkins346 Ай бұрын

I have had the Par End Feds up for a year now and it has been an outstanding EFHW. I do use a tuner for portions of 80.

@patriot9455 Жыл бұрын

I like your T-shirt, such a happy kitty

@Zach-K7FC Жыл бұрын

I had the Par Endfedz Quad band EFHW which has 3 stubs of wire that come off the main wire you tune to 10, 15, and 20. Cool idea, but it wouldn’t tune up correctly. It came short, and even after making longer splices it would never tune right. Their little tiny portable EFHWs are decent for portable though.

@sparty837 Жыл бұрын

I have a DX commander and love it for DX. I live in an HOA and it is great. The big problem with multiband verticals is they a low noise floor and close contacts are difficult due to takeoff angle. So for 20M and 40M I have dipoles which have much higher noise floors and have them closer to the ground, 25ft at the center, which makes them great semi NVIS antennas for POTA hunting. EFHW also have low noise floors and if you can't hear them, you can't make contact.

@superpoint43 Жыл бұрын

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@ShaneKA5GSS 11 күн бұрын

Hmmmm did not know that an efhw has a higher noise floor I was considering trying a my antenna efhw and seeing if it was quieter than my Dx commander 12.4

@eduardopower5254 Жыл бұрын

Hi there, I've been using PAR end fed (the old one, small transformer) for 10 years now. I have monobander, dual bander, 4 banders never ever failed. I own even 3 UHF and 1 VHF halo from PAR as well. Never a single problem. Great antennas.

@hamradiotube Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@jonthebru Жыл бұрын

I have both a DXC and a Nelson EFHW. Set up properly they both work well. The DXC needs the radials and the EFHW of any manufacturer needs a long space and a high elevation. The end fed can be used very effectively for NVIS type communication since verticals aren't as good for that. The exception being the 80 meter element on the DXC which is an inverted L with a long horizontal section. And yes I would buy a high powered EF transformer/balun.

@yowsa52 9 ай бұрын

I have the 40-10 quad and 80-10 kilowatt Par End Fed. At my previous house I had room for both antennas. I moved to a garden home where it was tight for the DX Commander. Because of the proximity to the house to the DX Commander did not work very well. The EFHWs could be hoisted above the house and garden and worked fine. The80-10 kilowatt end was only 5'off the ground and did not do as well as the 40-10. DX Commander is good but it has to be in the clear. I am moving this month to Spring, TX and will have half an acre there and 70' pine trees. I think the EFHW will enjoy that.

@wassman27 Жыл бұрын

Mike disappointed you didn't start your antenna answer with depends lol. I have both too. here is my 2 cents when extended ops DX handsdown (home station, Field day, etc) EFHW for portable ops. Main reason the DX will never become out of tune with extended transmit especially data ie FT8. Great video as usual and hope your staying cool down here.

@o00scorpion00o 7 ай бұрын

I have the hyenfed 80-10m 49:1 and it's excellent, got the 1 Kw version with compensation capacitor for 80m which increased resonance from around 3500 Khz to 3700 Khz without needing to shorten the antenna which will mess up the other bands. I've no problem making contacts all over the world. I have it in a sloping inv L config. It was just easier for me to do it this way because trees are never where you want them to be but the first half is up around 70 feet and the other half slops down from 70 feet to 3 feet, I have the UNUN there around 3 feet off the ground and it's grounded there. I believe it was Steve Ellington ? here on youtube the first to discover how the Capacitor could effect 80m.

@MrTommy001 4 ай бұрын

I've just started doing HF - total rookie on this. I have a Yaesu FT 710 and it's hooked to a Vibroplex endfedz 135' long wire. I live basically across the street from our local airport so I guess I'll never see any huge towers. But, this Vibroplex is working quite well for me, as far as I can tell. In about two months I've made bunches of contacts stateside and even Japan, Italy, Australia, and some guy in Indonesia that I was unable to understand his callsign. I've thought about this DX Commander Signature 9 verticle but having to put out radials is going to present a problem. My wife LOVES our lawn (come summer) and wonders how we can mow the lawn with it full of wires.. I may just haveto live with my Vibroplex - 🙃 I really does the job for me.

@buckeye5704 Жыл бұрын

I have Nelson's 8010 & 4010 and love em. A few days after hanging the 4010 I worked Austrailia from Maine (10,800+) miles! Planning on hanging the 8010 for FD to operate with my Club this month.

@hamradiotube Жыл бұрын

Same here! I got VK land only a few days after hanging it up too!

@buckeye5704 Жыл бұрын

@@hamradiotube Sweet! Hope I get to work you for FD. I'll be operating as N1ME

@zl1hog Жыл бұрын

I have found that SOTA activators that are on a summit in a park wont up load to POTA. This also affects the park activator who is working from a park looking for P2P’s.

@keithhawkins4641 Жыл бұрын

I have several endfed 1/2 wave DIY and purchased, The DX Commander is bay far the best performer. sometimes the endfed in a flat top works better for close contacts. endfed in vertical setup still does not perform as well as my DX Commander.

@jimsanders1707 Жыл бұрын

Mike thank you for all the great videos. My question is can more the one station activate a POTA park? I will be at a Corps of Engineer rec area K-7124 during Field Day and there will be more than one station I believe set up there.

@727jetjumper Жыл бұрын

Yes, I've worked many dual op activator stations.

@K3JRZOnTheAir Жыл бұрын

Always upload your log. There's no excuse not to. I've also done several "activations" where I just hunted other activators. Never called CQ, but made at least 10 P2P contacts. Log got uploaded. 73!

@seanholio 7 ай бұрын

TennTennas is the bomb! He shipped it promptly and I can’t wait to get this thing out into the field. If only I had my bnc-to-uhf adapter! 😢

@onewolf3750 10 ай бұрын

My first HF antenna was a Par Endfedz 80M and I never had any problems. Hurricane Ida destroyed it and as soon as I could I put another one up. High end 65' low end 5' with the first 10' on a 90 deg. dogleg. Very flexible with regard to configuration. Tim KG6G

@alallan7584 Жыл бұрын

What would you say is the best 10-80 EFHW setup, as far as Up-over, or angled in the middle, or what ? Love you videos, 73

@angelscomputers 7 ай бұрын

I have to agree with you, the Nelson antennas in eBay is fantastic. I have one and the guy provides an amazing customer service. I had the same issue you said sending 100 watts in digital and he send me a better matching unit right away, problem solved. Now I’m considering the dxcommander, kind of pricey for what it is but I wonder if I will get any advantage over my Wolf River coil

@ShaneKA5GSS 12 күн бұрын

I have a Dx commander 12.4 and like you I like it. Knowing you have both the Dx commander and have efhw’s , which performs better for you? Take tuning out of the answer due to I have a palastar hf auto tuner I’m strictly asking about Tx/Rx capability Thx for the video and enjoy your content Keep em coming

@JonathanAdami 2 ай бұрын

I made a logging app, part of it was to convert all my WWFF past activations to POTA and I uploaded everything. I imagine a lot of people might have been surprised to get free awards :D It was only 21 parks, but 750 contacts so, merry xmas :D

@richiet3841 9 ай бұрын

Have you tried and assessed the Palomar Engineers EFHW units?

@ke4cci Ай бұрын

Mike, have you ever gotten a response from PAR about your antenna? I have several that have served well for decades. Like you said, everyone makes a lemon sometime, it’s how they rectify the problem that’s a difference. Keep up the great videos , look forward to them. AB4O

@LambertMatias Жыл бұрын

I mostly (90% time) do my activating as a hunter. It's challenging but not hard. I'm the guy always in the pileup calling "Park to Park!" And yes, I always upload my log no matter what. I have a few logs uploaded actually that only have 1 contact in it. I work from parks in and around DC and a lot of ham's need DC as a contact so I make sure to upload the log always. I usually only have time for quickie activations and i find I can usually get my 10 contacts easily as a hunter on 2 or 3 bands. I like hunting from a park becasue I give and receive park2park credit as a hunter in a park, AND I get the activation after only 10 contacts...it's like a golden two-fer! I love my TennTennas!! My go-to set up right now is CHA Hybrid-mini in an end fed sloper config. Secondary is my 20m and 40m hamsticks on the hood of my jeep. I've worked 3 continents from my park with a hamstick on a magmount from my Jeep. Another good mailbag Monday Mike. Ps...GET THE HAMRS LOGGING APP. IT ROCKS! Cheers and 73!

@chrisb012 6 ай бұрын

I use the SOTA beams Band Springer for my HF ‘work’, as I only work QRP/portable due to restrictions at home and a desire for a happy marriage 😊. Works really well for me! Oh, and your shack panther is beautiful, do they try to get on the air like mine? She even has a ‘callsign’ in our club of M9CAT!

@doc145 4 ай бұрын

My pick is the Hyendfed antennas. I have 2 and they are wonderful. No tuner needed. The build is exceptional. No one comes close. I would never use anything else.

@thomashenderson603 Жыл бұрын

I have the nelson Antenna with high power. No issues at all..

@martinvanek5951 15 күн бұрын

I have both. My efhw is so versatile from 10 - 160. My DX Commander is better for DX because of its 360 degree radiation pattern at low angle. It's close between them though. That's why I have both:)

@paulpannell7179 Жыл бұрын

I have the My Antennas 80-10 endfed and the DX Commander Exibition. Best performer is the DX Commander.

@munk0821 13 күн бұрын

I am thinking about purchasing a DX Commander Radide. However in my back yard I have a small shipping container that would be 4m from the antenna. With your experience of owning a DXC do you think the container will affect the swr significantly? Many thanks....

@yeahitsk Жыл бұрын

Par end Fedz or DX Commander for home station? Neither- go with an Off Center Fed Dipole. I got one from Palomar Engineers and it's awesome. Not very pricey either as commercial antennas go. I used to use an EFHW for my home station and the OCFD blows it away. It's up out the way and actually very stealthy- it's hard to notice if you're not looking for it.

@NSNorfolk Жыл бұрын

Better yet, BUILD the thing rather than buy a finished antenna. A 1/2 wave dipole cut for 80/75 or 40 and fed with open wire will work wonderfully on 80-10 or 40-10. I realize it takes a bit of room and not everyone has that luxury. If you build your wire antennas, you enable the experience of trying a number of different designs until you happen on 1 that fits your situation. It costs about $20 to build a dipole. Less if the end insulators are pieces of PVC pipe with holes drilled in them. Enjoy the adventure. There are still a couple sets of wire cutters, 1-1/4" sockets, etc hanging in trees at my parents house from me throwing a weighted support line over a branch. Worked my first 150 countries on a dipole I built.

@hamradiotube Жыл бұрын

Off center fed dipoles aren't resonant on as many bands though.

@yeahitsk Жыл бұрын

@@hamradiotube I have their 40-10 OCFD, my 7300 easily tunes 40, 20, 17, 15, 10, and bonus 6 m. Just had a bunch of fun on 6 m this past weekend. 30 and 12 m- not happening, but couldn't get those with my EFHW either even with a choke at the feed point.

@anonymous_friend 8 ай бұрын

Do you know what the Tenntennas EFHW with so239 is rated for digital ? I'm about to attempt my first test with JS8call from an 857d. Don't want to mess anything up! Thanks

@hamradiotube 8 ай бұрын

I'm not sure the actual rating but I run ~70 watts into mine all day long without any issues.

@yowsa52 11 ай бұрын

I have a DX Commander and two Par End Fedz. Mine are fine. SWR is not flat but it is 1.5 or better. EFHW deployment is easier and no traps on the ground to trip you.

@K1DTC Жыл бұрын

Have both and i don’t see much difference. I have the ability to switch between them and the end fed is only up 23’. I use the SIG 9.

@arysaja5097 Жыл бұрын

I have par endfedz efhw80-10 for 3 year now, this antena is very good with icom ic7300 with internal tunner n works well 80m to 10m… with this antena I have 233 lotw dxcc Mix n 116 dxcc phone….

@patriot9455 8 ай бұрын

I watch the DX Commander videos. He always sound like he is in a room with only me, and except for the fact that he is behind that "little window" on my laptop, I could go get him a cup of tea. Having said that, I feel the same way about you, but we might go for cups of coffee or a cold (nonalcoholic) drink, someone has to drive, then talk more about shtuffe before we head out to the lake near where I live and do some POTA while we wait for a fish or two ( they are not all huge catfish, darn it) join us for dinner. I have a cat who could model for the next edition of "MEH" cat.

@ICEDoTDK 7 ай бұрын

cool job 73 from Danmark

@W8MJL Жыл бұрын

Hey Mike, K8MKL and myself love hunting in our local park K-1961 as it helps boost your P2P totals for those awards, if your into that. But yes for the love of all that's holy submit those logs, I have several I've been waiting on for over a year and I'll probably never see. 73 de W8MJL

@koifanaat2491 26 күн бұрын

hello ,where can i find the nano vna stands/holder?

@Porco_Utah 6 ай бұрын

I think DX commander Vertical antenna are great for Transmitting, End fed horizontal antenna is great for low noise receiving. AG6JU

@NickkoG 5 ай бұрын

And what about hyendfed? It seem very good quality and efficient for an end fed (not half wavelength).

@TravelinHam Жыл бұрын

DX Commander at home. Take the EFHW on the road. Activated Delicate Arch at Arches NP with my Nelson 40 m 100W EFHW.

@barry8661 Жыл бұрын

Dude.... you made me spend money..... Again. Nano VNA H4 on the way.

@johnarcher9480 8 ай бұрын

EFHW for me. DX commander doesn’t do NVIS. EFHW can do NVIS, and as you go higher in frequency, you get more of a DX antenna. $100 can get you an EFHW that does 80-10m. Easier to take along with you, and easier to set up. No radials needed. Also the horizontal polarization also makes for a quieter noise floor.

@sockeatinggolden8316 Жыл бұрын

I'll disagree a bit with your POTA assessment. I'll sometimes hunt from a park and not upload to POTA. HOWEVER, I never hunt or call as P2P. No one but me knows I'm actually in a park. I never mention it unless a collect 10 contacts. Then I'll upload and switch to hunting as P2P. Generally this is because I'm short on time.

@kzerobkobrian8937 Жыл бұрын

So, Mike. What do you really think of HAMRS? Should I download it! ? 🤣🤣🤣

@user-il4ri3gy2o 3 ай бұрын

did you answer the question or did I miss it?

@albisasky766 Жыл бұрын

I have an EFHW. It's marginally better than a dummy load. 73 Al K3ZE

@Brian-WR1W Жыл бұрын

Once again I'll say, POTA admins need to stop this "successful activation" stuff. If someone doesn't get 10 contacts they aren't going to upload their logs because they don't want it to show on their stats that they have 100 out of 150 successful activations. Calling 10 contacts "successful" makes anything less than 10 "unsuccessful" regardless of what they continue to say.

@hamradiotube Жыл бұрын

I 100% disagree. It's a goal. If you don't hit that number, you didn't succeed in activating the park. There are wins and there are losses in life. That's called, well, life. What, so everyone should get a participation trophy now? I don't think so.

@Brian-WR1W Жыл бұрын

@@hamradiotube You prove my point because if they don't hit the number, they wont submit the logs (penalizing the activator calling CQ POTA). I agree with you that there are wins and losses. I personally don't go out into a park unless I'm prepared to stay until I make those 10 contacts. But the rules of this game are setup where, if you are losing, you can just not submit your scorecard. Ultimately, this rule only hurts the activators that take time to single out the "park to parks". There needs to be a penalty for people making "park to park" contacts that don't submit their logs or create a different rule where "hunting from parks" doesn't count towards an activation. This would affect my activations because I primarily hunt from parks as Im not quite ready to call CQ POTA yet. But Im willing to accept that if it means activators will get credit for their work.

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