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Sounds like the games with my best friend's Inalla deck. People keep trying to get on his good side to avoid a bit of removal in the early game, but the longer the game goes on the more likely he is to win. That's why I always make it my mission to point stuff at him when possible and enourage others to do the same by reminding them what happened the last time they tried to be nice because he didn't have anything scary *on* *the* *board* .

@@TheMightyBattleSquid I know this is 8 months late.. but that's is the most frustrating thing.. losing because people were scared to be mean lol

Honestly haha

My wife has a super awesome Kadena deck. We play in a higher power meta, and Kadena has about a 75% win rate lol Kadena is super good

@@Currie.McFlurry do you have a deck list. Would like to build kadena that can win in my playgroup

That is because this is a bad and slow list. Strong Edgar decks play tons of 1 and 2 drops + fast Mana rocks + fast tutors + mass card draw like Wheel and Ad Nauseam + anthems. I have laughed off 5 board wipes in a single game and won because it is so easy to rebuild. Another example is how Liliana, Dreadhorde General & Dark Prophecy laugh at board wipes. Suddenly I am drawing 2 cards for each card it cost me to play. Oh,and while you and the rest of the table are busy wiping the board, you are often not advancing your own game state, or at least not as much as you otherwise would be, which causes you to time walk yourself. Purhoros, God of the Forge means I do not have to attack to win.

@@PaulGaither respect.

@@PaulGaither any suggestion for edgar build bro? As a new player in mtg, i want to build vampire decent deck (already have edgar markov)

@@gilang4838 - Yes 1. 30-33 creatures. Make sure almost all of them cost 1 or 2 mana if possible. Only a few vampires should cost you 3+, and those should have a HUGE impact on the game. 2. Card draw + tutors. The best you can afford. Lots of it. 3. Ways to improve your swarm. Permanent cards (artifacts and Enchantments) that grant +1 or more attack and some sort of evasion. There should only be a few "silver bullet" answers in your deck. We don't want to be reactive. We want to be proactive and aggressive. The game play is to get a lot of vampires in play and early, pump them up or otherwise make them better and draw cards. Choosing who to focus your attack on is important. Oh, and ramp. The best you can afford. Do not use slow ramp like Signets, because they require Mana to activate. You can use faster ramp like the Talisman cards which allow you to use the Mana that turn. They look similar, but there is a difference, and it matters.

@@PaulGaither do you have a deck list- I would love to see some examples for my Edgar deck

When he did that I cringed so hard

As a proud owner of an upgraded Kadena Pre-con I can say Kadena has some killer potential and can get out of hand quickly if built the right way. And it's a Morph commander that cantrips each time you cast a Morph. Imagine making morphs *free*

try skyping/zooming/alternativeofyourchoice! my playgroup has been cramming in games in this quarantine. all you need is a smartphone with the app to stream you board and a laptop to view the ones of your friends (:

Love the list but landcount might be a little low

I remember playing against Dryad Arbor for the first time. Ofc the player hid it between his lands. And yes, suddenly there's a suprise blocker.

I got tired of updating my list online, so I took it off the web. If we can get in contact, I'll send you my current list

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Some games are just bad, lol

Just based on what was played, I think it's the exact same decklist as the precon.

apart from that ob nixilis. I don't know if i saw any other non precon cards tbh. Maybe the lands?

Should've stolen kadena immediately

The fourth was tucked under one of his lands

@@MTGMuddstah Okay, was wondering

But miguel is such a great guy. You can't possibly assume he's up to no good. What? He's playing sultai so it should be obvious? But guys.

It was Miguel's Ghired deck that I borrowed.

They all got sacrificed to Westvale Abbey

It was 4 lands discarded. One of the lands got lumped underneath. Sorry!

@@MTGMuddstah Thanks for the clarification, I really couldn't see it. Looking forward to Thursday.

Well of course Kadena is gonna look good when people keep making deals with her player and literally not killing Kadena once, allowing Miguel to get insane value off of it. When people actually interact she's perfectly balanced.

Actually in my playgroup Ghired seemed to be the strongest out of the box. I play Kadena and the deck is very vulnerable if Kadena is taken care of because all of a sudden you lose your best card draw and mana efficiency engine. The morph cards on their own aren't really that good. Ghired has a lot of high-impact standalone cards and almost every play is relevant. That being said, I wouldn't ever change Kadena, she is so much fun to play :)

plenty of busted commanders out there imo. and most morph creatures are not that good :P. So meh, i love my morp deck but i would not say she is too good.

@@afspeellijstnaruto Agreed. She's no Korvold or Chulane, but she is still a VERY good value engine and it doesn't take much to make her go off.

She has some cards that can make her a monster if not dealt with. Which means a lot of cold war pacts work to her advantage

@@matshbocks let me know some of those cards pls. I still have to upgrade the precon so advice is always welcome :D. (already seen commander's quarters episode about Kadena though)

@@afspeellijstnaruto Maybe words of wind and equilibrium. Add to that some flash enablers like teferi, mage of zalfir, alchemists refuge and Vivien champion of the wilds

Now see turn 4 don’t have anything on the board and they way ahead. Because you valued 41 life over 39... you lost 2 plus turns just because of that

To get Bishop and Borborygmos triggers.

Someones salty. Run more wraths, edgar is easy to deal with.

Edgar Markov is broken! He is banned in cEDH for a reason

@@sulaimanhyatt-butt1453 I played two games against Edgar Markov (and other players I don't remember what they were playing). While everybody was playing signets and ramp spells edgar markov already had 6 creatures a one drop + token, a 2 drop + token and a three drop + token. And yes a Pyroclasm will kill most of them but many games you just don't have the exact answer at the exact time.

@@90spepe If all three opponents can't reliably wipe a board when necessary, they deserve to lose to whatever creature swarm deck they're facing, be it vampires, elves, goblins, dinosaurs, dragons, homarids... And Edgar isn't even close to cEDH material, why would he be banned? You're probably thinking of Duel Commander, but a lot of other creatures are banned there as commanders as well.

@@90spepe 😂😂edgar isnt banned in cedh when did vampire tribal become the best deck in competitive when we have Oracle and consult that are the best 2 card combo.