Kaguya's 大筒木 カグヤ Standing As A Naruto Villain - Orochimaru│Nagato│Madara Uchiha - ナルト

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10 жыл бұрын

Comparing Kaguya to the other prime villains in the Naruto series after her defeat a few days ago.
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@ultraheaven8968
@ultraheaven8968 10 жыл бұрын
in my opinion , the strongest villain in naruto is Masashi Kishimoto . He single handedly destroyed the entire series without even fighting
@Astroryx
@Astroryx 5 жыл бұрын
Yoooo lmao
@95Everan
@95Everan 3 жыл бұрын
How ??? plz give me 2 points to your thought
@ultraheaven8968
@ultraheaven8968 3 жыл бұрын
@@95Everan I'll give you a thousand points . Just give me a month
@95Everan
@95Everan 3 жыл бұрын
@@ultraheaven8968( Haha I like this guy) I wasn't disagreeing with you dude, I just wanted to hear you out
@95Everan
@95Everan 3 жыл бұрын
@@ultraheaven8968 alright it's been a month. Lemme hear those Two points
@FreshIngredient
@FreshIngredient 10 жыл бұрын
Kakuzu was all about the paper
@DestyNovva
@DestyNovva 10 жыл бұрын
Money is so villainous, indeed
@stephencarroll4681
@stephencarroll4681 8 жыл бұрын
+FreshIngredient No that was Konan
@FreshIngredient
@FreshIngredient 8 жыл бұрын
Stephen Carroll HAHAHA! touché
@cardinalbrady449
@cardinalbrady449 8 жыл бұрын
Zabuza is a better villain than kaguya
@SuperNeos2
@SuperNeos2 6 жыл бұрын
Cardinal Brady Thank you! Why does everyone forget Zabuza?
@Astroryx
@Astroryx 5 жыл бұрын
Zabuza is underrated af
@j.j.4150
@j.j.4150 3 жыл бұрын
Easily
@MonkeyDLuffy-iw2kb
@MonkeyDLuffy-iw2kb 3 жыл бұрын
For real
@sageanimations2463
@sageanimations2463 3 жыл бұрын
he was the first and a better villain than kaguya because zabuza didnt just popped out of no where like kaguya
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
Kaguya is a perfect example of how power doesn't make the villain. Zabuza, despite being mid tier at best, was a far superior villain to Kaguya. What makes a villain are the more subtle aspects of their character. Personality, presence, impact, depth, etc. These are the things that make good villains. You can control as many dimensions as you want, but as long as you still have the personality of a rock you'll never be a good villain.
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 5 жыл бұрын
i think thats kind of obvious. no one is arguing one above all from Marvel is a good character despite being the most powerful in fiction.
@davidnewhart2533
@davidnewhart2533 4 жыл бұрын
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 The One Above All is not the most powerful in fiction.
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidnewhart2533 who is?
@MoonLess4444
@MoonLess4444 3 жыл бұрын
I always said Pain was the best Kishimoto Creation. His arc, Character development, ideology, beliefs, and concepts, are outstanding...
@MarkieDood
@MarkieDood 10 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of this relates to Kishi's bad habit of killing characters off too early. Itachi? Killed off too soon. Nagato? Killed off too soon. Danzo? Killed off too soon. Madara? Killed off too soon. All four of those antagonists had the potential to be so much more than what they were, but Kishi just has a bad habit of killing characters off too soon. Except for Obito. He didn't kill him off soon enough.
@crazy13alex
@crazy13alex 8 жыл бұрын
+Sandro L. Jean to be fair, it's hard for them not to with the affiliations there given. Obito was meant to mirror Naruto in many ways, more so than even Nagato or Sasuke.
@josefrancisco4178
@josefrancisco4178 6 жыл бұрын
How was Madara killed too soon when he lived like a century 😂
@yesminsalima4924
@yesminsalima4924 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, honestly Itachi didn't had a reason to live that long either
@yesminsalima4924
@yesminsalima4924 3 жыл бұрын
@Itachi Is superior to you Wich only made Sasuke choose the wrong path. Honestly,Itachi should of just died after he killed almost all of the Uchiha.
@BlackangelKatakuri
@BlackangelKatakuri 3 жыл бұрын
Nagato should have become the ten tails Jinchurriki
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
Nagato was a great villain until the very end when Kishi ruined him.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
***** There was never a glimmer of hope for his redemption until Kishi forced it to be there. Nagato killed his sensei and didn't hesitate to do it. There was never any inhibition in his character until Naruto started the talk no jutsu.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
***** Nagato was always striving for peace. His idea of peace was simply just different than Naruto's. That doesn't mean he had any inhibitions. You can see the difference with someone like Obito who had many cases of doubting himself internally while fighting Naruto. Nagato never did that.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
***** Because Naruto has no idea how to achieve peace. Naruto is fairly selfish in that regard in that he expects others to abandon their plans for achieving peace despite having no plan of his own. Nagato had an answer to peace which is why he was engaging in all his deeds in the first place. Everything Nagato did was to achieve his own personal answer to peace.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
***** Would you mind telling me about Naruto's plan for peace then? As it stands I have no idea how Naruto plans to achieve peace. Just because he says that he's going to do it and he believes that he's going to do it, doesn't mean he'll actually manage to do it.
@AgentAAARTS
@AgentAAARTS 10 жыл бұрын
Gearfire I'd say it's also selfish that they force their idea on what will create peace - ideas that have no stress-testing and are in and of themselves the only thing that seem to be causing war at the moment - Which is part of what I'd consider Hypocrisy. I will agree Naruto's got shit-all to contribute, but just because he's written as an idiot doesn't mean those ideas don't exist - Hashirama actually demonstrates that later.
@Ineedgames
@Ineedgames 10 жыл бұрын
Nagato was the best Villain in the series. He had a great motivation, he had ties with Naruto being a fellow Pupil and killed Jiraiya, Had the power and Destroyed the Leaf Village and unique powers, He even had great character development. Really felt like the series could of just end after Naruto defeated him.
@seekeroftruth45
@seekeroftruth45 10 жыл бұрын
yes moron. End the series after most of naruto's dreams haven't even been completed yet. After he hasn't come to a conclusion about sasuke. After We still had 2 akatsuki members left.
@seekeroftruth45
@seekeroftruth45 10 жыл бұрын
***** lol weeaboos. It is obvious ti could have ended there genius. It would have been a stupid ending. considering how much naruto has beinng talking so much shit about being hokage and bringing sasuke back.
@seekeroftruth45
@seekeroftruth45 10 жыл бұрын
***** what defeat? You know I'm right since you can't prove me wrong but for some reason you can't prove it.
@SrBananas
@SrBananas 10 жыл бұрын
Shisui Uchiha Why is it that everyone I've seen with a Shisui name and picture is a complete douche? And before you make some dumb assumption. I'm not a Nagato fan in any regard aside from his English voice. And I of course liked that the series kept going. But the OP was entitled to their opinion and they worded it politely. But you came in being a douche. Also I saw some of your other comments. Mizuki shouldn't be on anyones villain list. Lmao
@SrBananas
@SrBananas 10 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah, I think you're right man. I'll follow your advice. Lol
@sparknazo
@sparknazo 10 жыл бұрын
Best villains were hidan and kakuzu no sad sobbing flashblacks no infinite dreams shit simply money and reiligon was good enough and then they were entertaining lol
@sparknazo
@sparknazo 10 жыл бұрын
***** best prime villain imo was pein madara was good for me until the whole black zetsu and how he rewrote the tablet came into play
@marhoon7737
@marhoon7737 3 жыл бұрын
Well to be honest they have the most understandable and realistic reasons for being villains. Money and religion, simple and realistic.
@kequeen8577
@kequeen8577 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes A gold digger and a masochist
@newarksgreatest
@newarksgreatest 10 жыл бұрын
Rename this video "Why I Want A Madara Strap-On For Christmas- Explained In 34 Minutes"
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 6 жыл бұрын
3 years later and this comment still has me cracking up! LMAO XD
@kk8490
@kk8490 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@darthvader7888
@darthvader7888 9 жыл бұрын
You know you suck when you have the power to blow up planets but get hit by Sakura. Madara was way weaker but way more threatening. If it weren't for Black Zetsu, he'd have succeded and team 7 would be dead.
@Kirby5413
@Kirby5413 8 жыл бұрын
+Darth Vader Extremely late replying to this, but it pains me to know that a villain such as Kaguya exists. As far as I'm concerned, at least Kabuto has an ambition which is to become the greatest thing since Hagoromo according to him whereas Kaguya has absolutely no ambition at all except for Chakra and an army to defend herself from Momoshinki (The Boruto Movie villain). Kaguya's existence as a villain possibly as a character in the story in a massive con on the entire series. Probably one of the top 5 cons of the series! Truth!
@swagsukeuchiha7599
@swagsukeuchiha7599 8 жыл бұрын
idk if Madara was weaker than Hogoromo but Kaguya yea but not by much.
@crazy13alex
@crazy13alex 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think Madara would be able to avoid it after the Infinite Tsukuyomi.
@overallbest_3487
@overallbest_3487 8 жыл бұрын
+Swagsuke Uchiha he was way weaker than her it said it nobody is even close to her
@swagsukeuchiha7599
@swagsukeuchiha7599 8 жыл бұрын
Overall Best_34 naruto and sasuke would've lost against madara back then anyway
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
My main reason for liking Madara is that his ideology is realistic. Aside from the turning into a white zetsu part, I'd probably want to be under Infinite Tsukuyomi myself. Madara is a character who's too realistic for the series he's in which is why I like him so much. He'd fit much better in a seinen series tbh.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
***** Compared to Naruto's it's genius. In a real world setting true peace is not a possibility. Madara is someone who realizes that the only way that true peace could ever possibly be achieved is through force. This doesn't fit well in the happy go lucky shounen series he's in though. tbh I don't even know if Naruto has a plan for everlasting world peace. He can't talk no jutsu people forever afterall.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
***** How so? Madara never pretended like his own hands were clean. Madara was just tired of all the war that surrounded him and everyone else, and he was going to make one final push of violence to end the cycle. Madara is someone who understands that absolute control is the only way to stop people from engaging in violence. However at the same time Madara is not a tyrant. In the Infinite Tsukuyomi everyone is treated to their own desires equally. This is what separates him from a simple dictator (an individual I would protest against mind you). While Madara understands that total control is required to stop humans engaging in violence, he has no desire to treat everyone poorly once he has total control. In fact if everyone went along with his idea then he wouldn't even need to engage in any violence. Of course if that were possible though his plan wouldn't even be needed in the first place.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
***** I'm not saying that they have to agree with him. My personal belief is that I agree with Madara, but both I and the character of Madara understand that not everyone will agree with the Moon's Eye Plan. However disagreeing doesn't make you right. As it stands I've yet to see a single individual in the Naruto series come up with a better plan for permanent peace than Madara. This whole thing is about why I like Madara so much and it's because his ideology at it's core is just far more applicable than anyone else's, and it involves the least amount of overall blood shed over a long period of time. In the end if Madara had succeeded, less people would have died in the long run as opposed to if no one had done anything to end the cycle of violence at all.
@animegamingnerd
@animegamingnerd 10 жыл бұрын
i agree Madara's goal makes a lot of sense and why he wanted the infinite tsukuyomi to happen cause due to free will alone makes its impossible to have world peace due to different personalities, actions, beliefs, and ideology all of those things will always make sure that conflict is always a thing so he's reasoning to pretty much put everyone in a coma and live in their dream fantasy makes sense due to what i just said.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
***** Pretty much, and he is at least considerate enough to make people happy while they're in the coma. Again it's not he prettiest and nicest execution or plan for peace, but it's the best thing I've heard so far in the entire series. In the end you have to accept that sacrifices need to be made if you're ever going to go on a quest for peace.
@Yesboiii99
@Yesboiii99 10 жыл бұрын
Kaguya had little development as a villain. Honestly, Madara could have been given Kaguya's abilities and they could have sealed Madara away. Introducing a antagonist after only having them around for 10 chapters is horrid writing.
@BlackangelKatakuri
@BlackangelKatakuri 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@iMickehh
@iMickehh 10 жыл бұрын
Kaguya is the best developed villian in the entire series and did so much throughout it. She made the best ending ever :). loljk fukn captain morgan > kaguya sakura > kaguya fairy tail > kaguya talk no jutsu > kaguya ash ketchup > kaguya THE LIST GOES ON
@TheAdventangel
@TheAdventangel 10 жыл бұрын
ass ketchup is a bit too far
@DVRKSTXR
@DVRKSTXR 10 жыл бұрын
LOL! You put Ash "Ketchup".
@iMickehh
@iMickehh 10 жыл бұрын
Aaron Urban Damn right I did xD
@misterspade9543
@misterspade9543 9 жыл бұрын
Naruto: Talk no jutsu! Kaguya: Nope. *kills Obito*
@markjones7598
@markjones7598 9 жыл бұрын
lol
@theanimerapper6351
@theanimerapper6351 10 жыл бұрын
Pain was the best one with Madara in a close second imo
@DestyNovva
@DestyNovva 10 жыл бұрын
Madara came back from death = Best Villain.
@MrMagnetron2
@MrMagnetron2 10 жыл бұрын
***** He is probably talking about being revived with rinne tensei by Obito or reviving himself with izanagi after his battle with Hashirama.
@DestyNovva
@DestyNovva 10 жыл бұрын
***** That's what I'm talking about. Yep
@DestyNovva
@DestyNovva 10 жыл бұрын
***** Not Edo Tensei they're Zombies
@DestyNovva
@DestyNovva 10 жыл бұрын
***** That's why he's great but not a villain tho
@DestyNovva
@DestyNovva 10 жыл бұрын
Madara is a self made god. U can add Obito in this line.
@Exequiasi
@Exequiasi 10 жыл бұрын
Obito attacked the village sixteen years ago and put the whole story into motion since episode 1, Madara didn't tell him to do that shit, he only told him to prepare the infinite tsukuyomi and revive him at the right time, not to mention he didn't intended to revive him in the first place, that was Kabuto's doing, and black zetsu too, since he was the one who allowed Kabuto to find his corpse, Obito decided to attack the village by his own free will, Obito decided to help Itachi massacre the Uchiha clan by his own free will, Obito decided to control the 4th Mizukage Yagura by his own free will, Obito decided to start a war by his own free will, not to mention that he has more of a connection to the main characters, those being Naruto, Sasuke, and Kakashi, that Madara ever had and ever will have Madara has a connection to Hashirama and the Leaf itself for being one of it's founders but not to the main characters, and yet Obito's worth to the story is tied to Madara's?... yeah, okay bro, believe what you want to believe. Obito is Obito, just because he has a mask does not make him any less Obito. Obito and Tobi are NOT two different characters and these is what people, like yourself KOL have trouble wrapping around your head, Tobi is Obito end of story, everything he did applies to him and no one else, the only part in which I agree with was on the ideals part, in which I think your totally right, Obito did take his Ideals from Madara, and in his ambitions which were pretty dissapointing that 30% was world peace and the other 70% was Rin, in everything else I disagree with you. Madara is Madara Obito did what he wanted to do and failed Madara did what he wanted to do and failed.
@kaws1205
@kaws1205 10 жыл бұрын
So much truth was spoken here.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
Kisame was always one of my favorite Naruto characters since the beginning. I liked his outlook on the world.
@batguyz
@batguyz 10 жыл бұрын
For me, I rate the villains as to how they changed the story for the better, and so in this order I say; 1. Madara, because his scheme is played throughout the story (Put aside black Zetsu/Kaguya/Obito for the moment). 2. Nagato, for changing the game in the Naruto universe. Up until the Pain arc, nobody had been more feared and had a more than legit reason to be evil. I think Nagato asked tough questions to Naruto, and with the death of Jiraiya the impact was felt more, How can you overcome hatred in the face of overwhelming power etc. 3 Orochimaru, Persistent, entertaining and powerful. His motives are unique to the series and vital to half the story and beyond.
@danielmaldonado1185
@danielmaldonado1185 10 жыл бұрын
Why would you put aside black zetsu when you're making a list? You have to consider all the facts and fact is, whether we like it or not, Madara was a puppet in the end.
@batguyz
@batguyz 10 жыл бұрын
True, but if thats the case then black zetsu really is the best villain in the series for his overall scheme and I find that underwhelming..
@danielmaldonado1185
@danielmaldonado1185 10 жыл бұрын
I find the whole "It was me all along" thing with Black Zetsu to be very poor writing on Kishimoto's part. The story would've been much better off with just having Madara as the final villain. Black Zetsu was poorly written on and off within 10-15 chapters, Madara was a puppet in the end, and Obito's motivations were idiotic and unrealistic. Not a good run at the end there Kishi.
@batguyz
@batguyz 10 жыл бұрын
Yup thats exactly how I feel which is why I put them aside in my first comment, They leave a very bad taste in my mouth...I mean talk about characters who aren't fleshed out.
@markjones7598
@markjones7598 9 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with you minus Madara. His character was way to spontaneous and random in the story. It just seemed like Kishimoto tried way to hard to force his character in the story.
@neferpitou9662
@neferpitou9662 10 жыл бұрын
Part 1 villains were good, part 2 villains are meh ( yes, even Madara) Kaguya is a great example of how power is not enough to make a villain imposing.
@sirmel11
@sirmel11 10 жыл бұрын
Gon Freecs *awkward
@SubliminaIMessages
@SubliminaIMessages 10 жыл бұрын
*heads* up, it's Pitou.
@1in10million
@1in10million 10 жыл бұрын
Gon Freecs lol I guess u calm down now
@denickart
@denickart 10 жыл бұрын
Part 1 only had 1 real villain.
@1in10million
@1in10million 10 жыл бұрын
Gon Freecs lol clever
@DEATHxTHExKIDx1
@DEATHxTHExKIDx1 10 жыл бұрын
Honestly Nagato was my favorite character until he fuckin revived everyone. Other than that he was my #1 he was just so epic.
@MrMagnetron2
@MrMagnetron2 10 жыл бұрын
In my opinion from the power standpoint, While Kaguya does have the most chakra and raw power, she lacks technique compared the other villains. To me in overall combat ability she is below Madara because he had more technique and did more things with his power.
@LoserC2nd
@LoserC2nd 10 жыл бұрын
I agree. Madara was a better....."fighter"
@LoserC2nd
@LoserC2nd 10 жыл бұрын
***** What do you mean? Im saying he was better at fighting. Do you not agree?
@MrMagnetron2
@MrMagnetron2 10 жыл бұрын
*****"asspull power ups out of his ass" is a little redundant, you should eliminated the asspull part.
@SubliminaIMessages
@SubliminaIMessages 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, her fighting style was severely dated and didn't really stand a chance to more modern ninja.
@AbdisalamFarah23
@AbdisalamFarah23 10 жыл бұрын
+sandro2137 actually that isn't as spill because in the data book it stated that Susanno reside in the body.for instance itachi use Susanno when he is blind against sasuke.
@TROLLINGB4U
@TROLLINGB4U 10 жыл бұрын
Just when I was about to go to sleep...
@Football123454life
@Football123454life 10 жыл бұрын
rightttt
@wltr2302
@wltr2302 10 жыл бұрын
I have to wake up in 4 hours to go to work :(
@Football123454life
@Football123454life 10 жыл бұрын
6 hours for school :(
@geoahd12
@geoahd12 10 жыл бұрын
Please Mac 5 hours for school :(
@musicf3b
@musicf3b 10 жыл бұрын
In part one kabuto was a mystery. Like when he got cut and mentioned his "old self" in the forest of death. And his assassination attempt on sasuke seemingly meant to stop Orochimaru. But kishi didn't go into it
@jovannygarduno9596
@jovannygarduno9596 10 жыл бұрын
Kisame was a fucking boss. My favorite akatsuki member because he did what sasuke and his team FAILED to do and that was defeat killer bee. And he even had power afterwards from getting hit by afternoon tiger. Plus his sword was very unique/awesome lol.
@OGBoogsz
@OGBoogsz 10 жыл бұрын
Kishimoto Was The Best Villan In Naruto Bar None.
@stormbringer7773
@stormbringer7773 10 жыл бұрын
Madara the best villain in naruto history and the only shounen villain to actually succeed in obtaining his goal.
@B0K0691
@B0K0691 5 жыл бұрын
Not the only one, Enrico Pucci also achieved his goal. He obtained heaven and he succeeded in resetting the universe
@MrChiyobaa
@MrChiyobaa 10 жыл бұрын
This is exact the kind of video i was waiting for for so long. This is the kind of smart dissection of important matters in Naruto that defines him from basic reviewers like Forneverworld or Sawyer. This goes deep into the subject and i appreciate that. keep on going and greetings from germany
@Rean_Machine
@Rean_Machine 10 жыл бұрын
If Kaguya were never introduced into the story, nothing would gave changed. Probably one of the most worthless villains I've seen.
@NoOne-hx9ir
@NoOne-hx9ir 3 жыл бұрын
Something actually would have changed 1. Madara could have had a much more impactful ending and 2. We wouldn't have asspull alien god space villains in Shituto the sequel
@yesminsalima4924
@yesminsalima4924 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoOne-hx9ir thats true
@xKindle
@xKindle 10 жыл бұрын
Everybody knows that the best villain in Naruto was Gatō
@SuperNeos2
@SuperNeos2 6 жыл бұрын
xKindle Gato could've been a very unique villain, or at least an introduction to Chakraless Antagonists/Mob Bosses, had Kishimoto actually done anything with the concept
@KHmixerX
@KHmixerX 10 жыл бұрын
Kaguya had everything going for her. Badass character design, power, historical relevance, etc. All the pieces were in place for her to be a compelling villain. And I was more than willing to give her a shot even though I resented her for taking away Madara who in my opinion is the best villain of the series. But somehow, some way...Kishi managed to fuck it up. I'm not that creative when it comes to fictional writing. However, I am positive that I could've written Kaguya better than Kishi did. And I don't think it would be very challenging. She was already set up to be a quality villain. It's baffling to me. Minimal effort should've been required to write her properly. Smh
@yumiharitsuki
@yumiharitsuki 10 жыл бұрын
actually, kaguya is just another example of how uncreative kishimoto is, look at kaguya from okami: img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101217081324/okami/images/3/3a/Kaguya.jpg, and at kaguya from naruto: img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140616183551/naruto/images/f/f6/Kaguya_Infobox.png even the name is part of japanese mythology
@KHmixerX
@KHmixerX 10 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Hykes I wouldn't hold that against him. Japanese mythology is commonly used throughout fiction in that part of the world. If you blame Kishimoto for that, you'd have to do the same for countless others as well.
@Aizen2468
@Aizen2468 10 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty common known fact that kishi SUCKS at writing women. Hell, just count how many chapters Kaguya even existed or what she did and that should give you an idea. Pretty much every woman in Naruto is worthless, even the supposed powerful ones. That always bugged the heck outta me. But honestly in my opinion Kaguya came completely outta left field with no buildup at all. Nothing lead up to it, it just kinda.....happened. Didn't really dig that personally
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 жыл бұрын
@@yumiharitsuki LMAO kishimoto is pretty creative bro. He is. Naruto pulls from Hindu and japanese mythology just like many other series and stories. Your not “uNcReAtIvE” for pulling from mythology as most stories for that period.
@IsaaqAttack
@IsaaqAttack 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you King of Lightning so much for this discussion video. I'm actually drawing my own manga and just doing a review on my characters good and bad. This helped me with a lot of insight. I see you as a manga scholar lol. You really get deep into analyzing them which I can appreciate as a writer and a fan of the manga. Thanks man.
@GAMINGFINESSE
@GAMINGFINESSE 10 жыл бұрын
I like KOL'S videos he actually talks to his subs and gives a lot of thoughts about different subjects instead of just doing reviews that are like 5 to 6 minutes I appreciate he deserves more subs
@robertlopez7449
@robertlopez7449 10 жыл бұрын
Great video KOL!
@seif9479
@seif9479 10 жыл бұрын
This tooooooo perfect ;D I brought Popcorn without knowing that KOL downloaded this video! Now I just have to sit and enjoy ;D
@YellowKabob
@YellowKabob 10 жыл бұрын
wtf, Kabuto worse villain in the series? I don't even like him, but that's just bull, he has to at least be better than Kaguya and Obito. To just call him a clone of Orochimaru really downplays the complexity that got him to that point. He lacked any sense of identity to due being abandoned, not even a name, and when he finally gets a name and forms relationships with people, it ends up being meaningless. Feeling broken again, he searches again for a sense of identity. Then Orochimaru tells him he can find himself by finding all kinds of information. From there on he gets consumed by power,violence,and taboo in an attempt to cope with a lack of identity.
@nikewall6692
@nikewall6692 10 жыл бұрын
Exactly! He had so much influence on the story, kept you guessing about his true intentions, and, as people tend to forget, he was EASILY the most threatening one due to him summoning Madara in the first place! In fact, it was his own justu, due to him reviving Itachi, that brought his downfall.
@kyuubibomb4467
@kyuubibomb4467 10 жыл бұрын
No I can agree with his decision. He's a good character, but a bad villian. He did move the plot but it pales in comparision, to the other villians. To be fair though  he wasn't apart of the Nagato
@bahamn15
@bahamn15 10 жыл бұрын
This.
@markjones7598
@markjones7598 9 жыл бұрын
kyuubi bomb Obito wasn't even really apart of that chain. He was just a tool for Madara to use to keep track of Nagato, that's about it.
@qarcon3247
@qarcon3247 10 жыл бұрын
imo Danzo was the best antagonist in the series.
@LordWallace
@LordWallace 8 жыл бұрын
I kind of feel like Madara is what Aizen wanted to be in terms of being the "grand mastermind" archetype, but instead ended up being....well....what we got. Part 2 had tons of issues but if it got one thing exactly right it's that archetype, which gets screwed up so often. Madara is the only justification I'll accept for anything after the Pain arc tbh (and I actually liked Pain as a villain quite a lot, perhaps not Nagato as a character but Pain in Yahiko's body with his Six Paths as a villain is imposing as fuck).
@millabasset1710
@millabasset1710 8 жыл бұрын
+Lord Wallace Sasuke is the best Naruto villain. Then again, all of the Uchihas are evil.
@alonzounderwood3237
@alonzounderwood3237 8 жыл бұрын
+MALayhee700 sasukes not a villian
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 жыл бұрын
Not Nagato and Pain were both fantastic as one! They were amazing as a whole and the high point of the series!
@serigotskrila6712
@serigotskrila6712 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@ANDREVILAFRANCA
@ANDREVILAFRANCA 10 жыл бұрын
Great video man! 100% right!! Keep it up!!
@packersfan
@packersfan 10 жыл бұрын
Nice discussion vid King. I would put Madara first, followed by Orochimaru and Nagato. Obito was good when he was "Madara", but then he kind of went downhill a little. Kaguya physically was ok, her abilities wer cool, but I was expecting much more. I think that has to do with the editors wanting to wrap the fight up. If you look at Kaguya beyond the last 10 chapters though, she is pretty OP. Don't forget her will manipulation created black zetsu and the Juubi. Madara and Obito also controlled her power. As well as the SOSP, so she has caused havoc for a long time. And of course the Akatsuki were pretty good in there own right.
@zoozoo1234ify
@zoozoo1234ify 10 жыл бұрын
In terms of how good they are, main villains in Naruto go as follows: 1. Pain/Nagato 2. Madara 3. Zabuza 4. Obito 5. Orochimaru 6. Kaguya
@zoozoo1234ify
@zoozoo1234ify 10 жыл бұрын
gexcen No. Madara isn't better then Pain. Obito is better then Kaguya and Zabus is deserving of his number 3 spot.
@zoozoo1234ify
@zoozoo1234ify 10 жыл бұрын
gexcen Cause he was more fleshed out and his motivations and his character development, I think, was better then Madara's.
@zoozoo1234ify
@zoozoo1234ify 10 жыл бұрын
gexcen Madara wasn't there from the begining though. He only appeared mid-way through the 4th Great Ninja War. Pain was there from the begining of Naruto. But I'm not judging the villains based on how important they are to the story. I'm judging them based on their character development, ideology and growth.
@seekeroftruth45
@seekeroftruth45 10 жыл бұрын
bro put mizuki and danzo over kaguya. Your list is GARBAGE.
@zoozoo1234ify
@zoozoo1234ify 10 жыл бұрын
Shisui Uchiha Mizuki is a villain in only one episode and Danzo isn't a villain at all...dumbass.
@valz563
@valz563 10 жыл бұрын
if only they made the ramen guy the true person to hold kaguya's will oh well XD
@SWAGTVmusic
@SWAGTVmusic 7 жыл бұрын
Yo King I think you should do a video of the bet villains in Shonen or at least the ones you review
@schadracnaureve5955
@schadracnaureve5955 3 жыл бұрын
Man this is entertaining!!!!
@jayops
@jayops 10 жыл бұрын
Madara and Orochimaru are my favorite Naruto villains, imo. Great video KoL!
@jayops
@jayops 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know that, but I'm pretty sure you know what I mean :P.
@jayops
@jayops 10 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you got one gold star for 1'uping me. Don't you feel so proud and smart that you tackled an issue (and more importantly wasted your time) so pathetically unimportant to the point that it's nit picking? You're speaking as if this is a big concerning issue in the Naruto community lmfao. Besides, how in the fuck would you absolutely know that Orochimaru isn't a villain anymore anyway, he became supposedly a good person so abruptly and un-Orochimaru like that it's questionable considering his sly nature? God, I get tired of pseudo-intellectuals like you who think they're so smart just because they 1'up people in conversations on KZfaq, the place where arguments go to die.
@angel55558
@angel55558 10 жыл бұрын
I think Zabuza is the most underrated Naruto villain. Such a strategic beginning fight that really established how Naruto fights would take place in the future
@echols85
@echols85 10 жыл бұрын
Best video ever
@Polydueces
@Polydueces 10 жыл бұрын
Tsunade and Jiraiya were allied with Konoha. Logically, Orochimaru would have to overpower both of them in addition to his former sensei at the same time, if you look at a one-shot destruction of the village. This is of course despite the first two sennin travelling all over instead of strictly staying in the village. Orochimaru, like most of the Akatsuki, has been shown to be able to fight on terms with a jinchuuriki (Naruto 4-tails) without receiving severe injury. In fact, he seemed to be having fun throughout the fight. If you figure Orochimaru as the strongest of the three, Jiraiya was able to put up quite a fight against Pain/Nagato before the secrets about him were discovered. Additionally, Sasuke killed Orochimaru when he was sick/weakened, not at 100%. I feel like nobody really knows how strong he really is, since he hasn't had the opportunity to fight at full throttle. Just trying to properly legitimize Orochimaru as a villain. When he died, the world was shaken that someone managed to do it after the news spread. He was brought back during the fourth war so he could bring back the previous hokage, but is that really his only purpose? Can't assume Kishimoto would plan that far ahead though I guess. Orochimaru is my favourite villain in this series, so I feel like he needs to be defended.
@EclipseHedgehog
@EclipseHedgehog 10 жыл бұрын
pain was my favorite because it was a more personal battle between him and naruto.
@GodOfWar187
@GodOfWar187 10 жыл бұрын
Tiger Mizuki would have made a better villain than Kaguya.
@gearfire123
@gearfire123 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for reminding me about that shitty filler arc XD.
@GodOfWar187
@GodOfWar187 10 жыл бұрын
>The joke >Your head
@Rean_Machine
@Rean_Machine 10 жыл бұрын
He clearly had Tiger Sage Mode. Kishi should've made him canon. Much opportunity missed.
@lychi-i
@lychi-i 10 жыл бұрын
Wonderweiss >> Kaguya!
@Maximus4587
@Maximus4587 3 жыл бұрын
He's *GRRRRREAT!*
@bluerangerx11
@bluerangerx11 10 жыл бұрын
if you are being objective, obito worth to the story is just as a important as madara. obito is the reason for naruto bad childhood and the reason why sasuke attacked the kages .
@bluerangerx11
@bluerangerx11 10 жыл бұрын
obito ideals and madara's are different . madara believed in power and obito believed in friendships .
@bluerangerx11
@bluerangerx11 10 жыл бұрын
also marada carried out another person objective too according to the story
@manga925
@manga925 10 жыл бұрын
Wtf happened to the rain village after there god and angel dead Kishi never mentioned it?
@blacksquirdward3301
@blacksquirdward3301 3 жыл бұрын
Probably still went on with there day to day lifes
@Puckanm
@Puckanm 10 жыл бұрын
lol at the KABUTO remarks dude you had me cracking up.
@Puckanm
@Puckanm 10 жыл бұрын
"They are out there!" lol
@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT
@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT 10 жыл бұрын
Ill always consider Orochimaru the best, but I agree with you everywhere else
@UnderratedGame3
@UnderratedGame3 10 жыл бұрын
Obito made this story all begin with the Nine tails attack GG
@KingChocobro
@KingChocobro 10 жыл бұрын
If one day KOL came home and found madara in his room oh boy! Some jutsu going down for sure!
@InsekiJisatsu
@InsekiJisatsu 10 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone saying Madara's the reason everything that happened in Naruto happened? It was Black Zetsu. Through in through. Madara was a puppet just like everyone else. My favorite villain was Nagato/Pain. But thats just an opinion.
@D1Smo0ve
@D1Smo0ve 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you someone mentions it.
@EclipseHedgehog
@EclipseHedgehog 9 жыл бұрын
agreed. his plan was more realistic than "Im gonna put everyone in an illusion! mwahaha" which in turn became "Im gonna turn everyone into zetsus to fight a war no one cares about!" give me akatsuki ruling the world through a monopoly or pein giving countries nukes over that BS. zetsu was and always will be a fodder.
@misterspade9543
@misterspade9543 9 жыл бұрын
EclipseHedgehog Kaguya wanted to rule the world and have all chakra. Zetsu just wanted his mother back.
@carolcaua9745
@carolcaua9745 5 жыл бұрын
@@ssjgin4213 Madara is generic Pain is Relatable just
@ssjgin4213
@ssjgin4213 5 жыл бұрын
@@carolcaua9745 what makes Pain relatable
@SamuelMcCloud
@SamuelMcCloud 10 жыл бұрын
U thinking of doing the best/strongest villians and heros list?
@LILKHFAN101
@LILKHFAN101 10 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru and Negato (minus the talk no jutsu) were my personal favorite villains. I actually loved Obito when he was still Tobi because he was a chaotic evil that found joy in what he was doing. As a person that loves the Jokers character from the Batman comics I thought Tobi was an enjoyable change of pace from the number of depressed villains in the series.
@PuuberZ
@PuuberZ 10 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru best villain. No other person has the same menacing on screen presence that he had. Marada is 1 of the worst written bad guys in all Shonen. Just a butt hurt selfish ideology.
@deidara098098
@deidara098098 10 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%
@Bowmacho
@Bowmacho 10 жыл бұрын
My Favorite Line Of this Video is"Its Just Orochimaru and His Boys" Boss Shit Lmao!
@westly92able
@westly92able 10 жыл бұрын
He must of forgot that black zetus is kaguya will and has been around before madara was even thought of and that black zetus change the stone tablets so that he can even get that thought into his head and also black zetus made/helped kabuto find madara body to put "his plan" into motion which in the end was a trick from the start.
@Rantsnrambles808
@Rantsnrambles808 2 жыл бұрын
It's like i just found a Christmas present or something. Nothing worse than aliens in my ninja anime....and NOBODY can tear apart naruto BS like KOL
@musicf3b
@musicf3b 10 жыл бұрын
Why did Orochimaru never revive his parents?
@DestyNovva
@DestyNovva 10 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have parents. He was born from nothingness.
@musicf3b
@musicf3b 10 жыл бұрын
I think you're joking but can't tell. We heard about his parents death changing him during his fight with the 3rd hokage
@qarcon3247
@qarcon3247 10 жыл бұрын
musicf3b LMAO he is joking. Hiruzen stated Orochimaru parents died. Desty Nova Orochimaru sounds like a Kingdom hearts 2 character XD
@DestyNovva
@DestyNovva 10 жыл бұрын
Qarcon Never played that game but Orochimaru could fit well ^^
@qarcon3247
@qarcon3247 10 жыл бұрын
Desty Nova never played the game O_o you're missing out on something great man. lol go buy a ps2 and kh1/kh2 and be amazed XD
@Tevinssj7
@Tevinssj7 10 жыл бұрын
Yo king that's low, back in the day u loved kabuto lol
@jaffa1781
@jaffa1781 10 жыл бұрын
Simple Obito is the best, When he was the main villain the story of Naruto was at it's best.
@Bowmacho
@Bowmacho 10 жыл бұрын
King Of Lightning Can You make another video about the other villains you didn't quite mention to do the naruto series justice? PLZZZZ Bro? Hidan,Etc
@wilhemjoseph
@wilhemjoseph 10 жыл бұрын
Yo King Of Lightning Wats up
@AnimeSlaps
@AnimeSlaps 10 жыл бұрын
Remember when everyone was hyping up the castle in the background in Kaguya's dimension?
@Din.Djarin
@Din.Djarin 8 жыл бұрын
What's that in the background (poster on the left)
@johnabiri8220
@johnabiri8220 10 жыл бұрын
I agree with and and think your right on most things but i think its naive to think that's the end of Kaguya or her ideologies, her ambition etc
@Kumanitan
@Kumanitan 10 жыл бұрын
Characterization has been good all around in Naruto, at least relatively. If you think about Kishimoto pooling all these characters together in his mind, its incredible. Good video. As for worst villain, probably Gato/ The demon brothers. At least Kabuto has more development than those guys. Kabuto brought Madara back. Madara, even if he was a complete badass god-man, only existed for a short duration. On a scale of who has the greatest impact on the ninja world for the majority of the story, its Obito (even if he is a "puppet" for Madaras goals.) Responsible for what I believe are the quintessential points in the story: the nine-tails attack/formation of akatsuki/uchiha massacre. Also, Obito's nihlistic attitude is the stark opposite of Naruto's "Believe it", making him the anit-naruto (or the final anti-naruto, in front of Pain and old school Garra. More than them, since he was the most similar to naruto). I just feel sorry for Obito. ....and then theres Sasuke.
@96WackoXJacko96
@96WackoXJacko96 10 жыл бұрын
I believe they'll portray her better when the anime gets around to it
@gluup305
@gluup305 10 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru is still my favorite villain of the series, but I can certainly see why you think Madara is the best. In my own list he'd probably ranked at 3 right below Zabuza.
@stormbringer7773
@stormbringer7773 10 жыл бұрын
Who else thinks that King Of Lightning should do a memorial video dedicated to madara uchiha and his best moments?
@BIGAACE
@BIGAACE 10 жыл бұрын
Alright, I'll take that. One thing that I think would have been a good talking point is with the main villains of Naruto and there lackeys. You kinda mentioned it but skimmed over it as well. Zabuza being one of the first villains, had a lackey that supported his ideals and would die for them, Haku. Orochimaru had his dozens of lackeys but the notable ones Kimimaro and Kabuto being the most loyal. This trend of master mind and their lackeys/followers continues throughout the entire series. I could argue that Orochimaru is also a follower of Black Zetsu. We've never clearly understood why Orochimaru and Danzo obsessed over the Uchiha and Senju powers, Danzo not so much on the Senju. Orochimaru experimented on Senju DNA and we ended up with Yamato/Tenzo. He desperately tried to get his hands on both Itachi and Sasuke's eyes. We now know that when the Senju and Uchiha merge they gain the powers of the Rennigan (only part of the Hagoromo's). Orochimaru even tried to get Kimimaro's body, who is a direct descendant of Kaguya. So to me all of the villains spawn from Black Zetsu/Kaguya. From Black Zetsu the villains, in there own way, try to obtain Hagoromo/Kaguya's power. Do you agree?
@GUNNERR10
@GUNNERR10 10 жыл бұрын
When you first said Kabuto it took me a minute to remember who that was. Point proven
@thtfunnyguyful
@thtfunnyguyful 10 жыл бұрын
I never understood why Kaguya appeared before her achille's heel (Naruto and Sasuke) Why did black zetsu force Kaguya to come out before Madara defeated those two?
@ramblingentertained
@ramblingentertained 7 жыл бұрын
Madara and Orochimaru were the best villains hand down in Naruto.
@swagsukeuchiha7599
@swagsukeuchiha7599 10 жыл бұрын
I think its a tie beetween madara and orochimaru. they have an aura around them that strikes fear. madara himself has caused panic via his name and he was strict business when accomplishing his goals. orochimaru is my favorite because he has no morals/he does what he does because it is pleasure to see chaos unfold. that itself is a true villain, a guy who is sick enough to use people to satisfy his thirst for knowledge and destruction. He is a mystery, a serpent that hides in the grass, he is immortal but doesn't realize that...yet he still wants more.
@shanksd.badass4396
@shanksd.badass4396 10 жыл бұрын
Madara wants peace, Obito wants rin, but theres one viliaaaaan, whos ambition no one knowsssss wht does kaguya want, chakra, chkara, chakra
@angel55558
@angel55558 10 жыл бұрын
When you talk about Obito as a villain do you include his time as Tobi? I really liked when he was Tobi/Fake Madara
@danielmaldonado1185
@danielmaldonado1185 10 жыл бұрын
Gaara was the best villain Naruto has had.
@MrRodnac
@MrRodnac 10 жыл бұрын
I don't know if Gaara is a villain or just an antagonist but if he is a villain then I might agree with you. Storyline wise Gaara got a great build and in my opinion the best and the most epic fight in Naruto series is Naruto vs Gaara.
@vincentmcgrath6044
@vincentmcgrath6044 10 жыл бұрын
During the entire video I was wondering how he forgot Danzo. However, now that I think about it, is he clarified as an anti-hero?
@thenintenbro7154
@thenintenbro7154 7 жыл бұрын
KoL Orochimaru was an Orphan who believed that the worst in humans was death
@Arthur-yv6px
@Arthur-yv6px 10 жыл бұрын
KoL, how would you feel if Madara used Rinne Tensei?
@Beastkachu
@Beastkachu 10 жыл бұрын
Kaguya hopped into the arc. Like a rabbit or something. Wait... KISHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!
@vitrolbastard1384
@vitrolbastard1384 3 жыл бұрын
Kishimoto oohh you so clever
@enviablegooku7489
@enviablegooku7489 10 жыл бұрын
nice vid bro. MADARA IS THE BEST!!!!
@marthofhaven2409
@marthofhaven2409 10 жыл бұрын
I agree with King's rankings..I just wish that Sasuke could have followed the dark path more because he had GREAT potential as a villian..who knows we'll see.
@TheGloryXros
@TheGloryXros 10 жыл бұрын
I'd rate these villains in terms of characterization & motivation first, and things like story threat & personality second. That being said... Madara=>Nagato>Orochimaru>Obito>Kaguya. (Obito's that low because even though he did have more characterization, it was SLOPPY)
@TheGloryXros
@TheGloryXros 10 жыл бұрын
***** Umm...I said "Better OR EQUAL TO..." Its really hard to say which is better, honestly...I mean, I may even give the edge to Nagato for having more of a connection to the main protagonist, but still...
@gluup305
@gluup305 10 жыл бұрын
***** Or you could just respect his opinion.
@gluup305
@gluup305 10 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah and you're trying to force him to pick Nagato like he's a damn religion, let him decide on his own.
@onjah8643
@onjah8643 10 жыл бұрын
***** you are on every comment jesus
@gamabumda4196
@gamabumda4196 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGloryXros 4 year old comment lol. Can you react if you can see this comment??
@faraztahir7169
@faraztahir7169 10 жыл бұрын
"Kabuto is the worst obito is the second worst" coming from the guy who said repeatedly in the past "you'd be better off with having kabuto as your main villian"
@lee_athletix
@lee_athletix 10 жыл бұрын
When kaguya arrives in the anime, theirs gonna be a filler episode,wheir their is a flashback wheir kaguya and her zestu army go to fight some saiyans on planet vegeta.
@michaelvallejos5727
@michaelvallejos5727 10 жыл бұрын
Hands down Obito best villain ever he is the progenitor of what all villains should aspire to be
@michaelvallejos5727
@michaelvallejos5727 10 жыл бұрын
***** if you had to ask I guess that means you are dumb
@chasestacks7792
@chasestacks7792 10 жыл бұрын
oro's parents died while he was at a young age i remember the third talking about it
@happynightz
@happynightz 10 жыл бұрын
KOL you should make a video on the best overall character in naruto maybe after the series ends. I'm guessing kakashi or sakura is at the bottom of the totem pole.
@Scorpion122178
@Scorpion122178 10 жыл бұрын
Psycho Sasuke deserves a shout out as a villain. I personally believe his close relationship with Naruto and the fact that we've been with since chapter 3 makes him the perfect final villain of the series.
@MrYASpizza
@MrYASpizza 10 жыл бұрын
Chakra is similar to technological advances. They are meant to make the world a better place and bring us closer together, but in the wrong hands just become weapons of mass destruction.
@jonnyTT6
@jonnyTT6 10 жыл бұрын
Bruh....did you peep that 375 Episode of Nardo?? Shit was something SERIOUS Animation on point.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 7 жыл бұрын
Looking back, Kaguya was the villain this series needed. If you look at all the other villains, they all represented the dark side of the ninja system... but the ninja system originated from the abilities used to defeat Kaguya. The ninja system isn't perfect, but you can't just get rid of it because in the Naruto world threats like Kaguya and the rest of her clan will attack whether or not there are ninjas to defend this world or not. Only an outside threat could've united the ninja world. If it was just Madara, than the village he helped found (Konoha) and his last living relative (Sasuke) would've been in the cross-hairs after this war. Whether or not she was written well is a problem we can dump on Kishi.
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