Phil's head and neck look like a digglet from Pokemon lol

If the contest was based on “who you’d rather look like”, Shawn Rhoden would win

Dude Kai when he his that crab most muscular actually looks like he doesn’t train arms. It looks alien-like how his arms are so small

I gotta say, it takes a lot of balls to make a video that disagrees with the general consensus, especially as a youtuber. You had a lot to lose by making this video, and I gotta respect you sticking to your guns man. As for the analysis, I felt you were just about spot on. I'd give a slight edge to Kai, but just because how bad Phil's front lat spread was that year. Kai gained more ground with that pose than Phil did with his most muscular...slightly.

You’d think it’d be impossible to win the top bodybuilding contest in the world if you don’t have well defined six pack abs.

You nailed the review. I always come back to this when I forget whya happened that year. LoL. Keep it up.

The thing I’m starting to notice is that bodybuilders with longer bicep heads tend to have better forearms then those with mountain peaks for biceps

Dude you need to talk more efficently. You need so many words to make your point

Gotta disagree here Tom. Phil's midsection makes him 3rd at best in the front double, and the abs and thigh. Just can't win with that midsection. Kai has lost his share of events to his midsection, Phil should've lost this one.

I think the reason you are confused about Kai's rear lat spread is that he has so much fullness in his low lats that there is no taper. It's because he has so much lat thickness that they just don't taper down the way the other two guys do. In my opinion he has so much muscle in his back that his rear lat spread doesn't look like what people have come to think it should - we just can't comprehend the freakishness!

I feel like if the 2014 Olympia would happen in the 70's Rhoden would mop the floor with the other two. It's crazy how someone can tell you this is beautiful and this is ugly and you have to go by it because " this are the rules " that we judge by. Amazing aesthetics Shawn, it's statuesque 💪💪💪💪

Shawn looks like a god next to those bloated stomachs.

I put respect on your analysis!!! Keep making videos they're always entertaining.

34:06 " CAN U SMELL WHAT THE GUT IS COOKING"

Dude, you know your shit, and your commentaries almost always make me laugh - you should have waaayy more subs.

Kai has the taper though...Phil doesn’t. And kais quads.

i swear when you look too long at this pictures and listening to your voice the pictures start moving!!!!

33:59 I died laughing

I think it wasn't for lack of muscle. It came down to genetics. Kai came up against someone who had more pleasing to the eye. Kai was amazing, but at this level, there isn't a way to get beyond genetics.

Dude, facial expressions haha...Kai has zero traps in front Lat spread...Phils arms are super dominant that covers his lats unfortunately

Shawn Rhoden is looking good in the pic

Bruh you just skipped Shawn in the side chest. He looked so good

Lee Priest also had great forearms. Especially in his victory poses.

I was in the 4th row at the Orleans. When you’re that close, it’s not even a contest. Phil is far, far better than Kai. Seeing Phil in person is quite amazing. 2013 was his best year for me. I’ve been going since 2006 and I’ve never seen a bodybuilder as impressive as Heath.

Crazy bruh Heath is being dwarfed , with a gut especially between poses

That crab most muscular is just unsightly on Kai. He would’ve lost just by that pose, man that’s ugly.

Ronnie Colman. He trained but when he came 17th or close he didn't complain he just worked harder than boom as soon as you know it he came first place and he won 8 Mr Olympia titles

I like your videos man but I disagree I totally think Kai won hands down

Tom, you're so on point. You should do color on the event. Very entertaining.

its amazing to me that you guys can take a picture of a couple of lumpy guys and tell me that one looks better because his lumps have crisper borders. but seriously I dont have a clue how these guys judge these, they all look fine to me.

And Phill stand more forward and that's cheating

Isn't this fucked up stomach just disqualifing? How come you can win Mr Olympia with no visible abdominal muscles?!

I still had Green winning

In between posing is where his gut was out of control, you should always be in control of your midsection whilst in stage...

I miss those Arnie antics in the intros.

I had Kai winning this one. Kai's only glaring weakness is the forearms.

kais forearms let him down, so much smaller than phils

Phil was "The Gut" rather than the gift in this show. This was Kai's show. 2nd place should have been Rhoden. Phil's conditioning was off, his gut was distended, and he didn't bring that 3-D look that he's normally known for.

Phil was more composed, had proper stance in his poses, regardless of facial expression. Kai's forearms are too small for his upper arms. That's the #1 most neglected muscle imo, whether you're pro or amateur joe. You hardly ever see people work out their forearms in the gym. People think they get a worked out enough during other exercises but it doesnt work like that.

dude i just understppd how fcking smart bodybuilding pics are. Based on you looks better for a magazine, or if he really has big musckebellies and and uses the angle to make your muscles look bigger. and how it isnt just corrupt.

dude, midsection issue is due to how they flex their abs in this shot 9.00.

you really sound like a phil apologist here, in your other videos you are incredibly harsh on distended and washed out midsections and then you say phils abs and thighs here is pretty good? you've called dorians monstrously super abs garbage before and you're calling that washed out nonsense pretty good? you cant even see seperation there are no abs

very good content

you should change your intro bro lmao

you can not judge based on video and pics. you have to be there in person and next to the judges. a little closer or a little farther and things change.

20:40 Back double bicep was 100% phils in my opinion

Kai's got Phil beat in everything except the arms.

Great video

kai is actually looking better in rear double bicep...

I understand your points and views. I respect them. However, I personally disagree. Yes, Phil may have the edge in a few poses, Kai had the majority.

In the first photo, Phil is the only one in focus. If you look at Shawn, he is completely out of focus. I think Kai is slightly out of focus as well. You can see it mostly in their faces.

If you want to see someone who had some of the world's best genetics, look up Flex Wheeler. Flex had small joints and waist than one would typically expect in a 240lb man.

People thought kai should won because his abs and nothing else

Kia Greene try not to laugh at Phil most muscular face ,rhoden face say who man is this 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

YES! Kai was way better except Forearms and Hamstrings. But in every other area (including midsection), Kai was inarguably better

I honestly don't like your analysis. *Kai* I'd say Kai's front double bicep is the best front double bicep of all time...reasons: the name indicates that this is a frond double biceps...his biceps from the front are so peaky, reminds me of the golden era. Also how one arm is slightly higher than the other..it's something else, not as clear as an alternative biceps pose as Victor Martinez used to do, but still I'd put him in top of all time for this pose, it's aesthetic and freaky at the same time, a combination I don't often get to see. Kai's withness does him justice in both latspreads, I do like his back latspread as well, it's so meaty..just compare the lower back thickness, and that's what a lot of judges and youtubers point out about phil: "thick lower back" but Kai's on another level. His front latspread is not perfect but you really can't critique him on anything (besides not showing a neck haha) I mean he's complete in this pose. Kai shows more striations in the left pec in the side chest pose, he's surprisingly good at hiding his small forearms, two negative things tho: not a controlled midsection and glutes could have been sharper in this side pose. The transition pose: this proves Kai's potential, it's like a small Ronnie 2003, same striations in the lower back department. In the side triceps pose he could have had a sharper midsection, but also: his triceps just lacks thickness in this pose, I'd say his lateral head is undersized, long head is just fine, again: glutes could have shown more details as well. Abs&thighs: your winner right there, standing in the middle...it's called 'abs&thighs' and he shows a proper midsection and one of the most shredded thighs/quads of all time, this reminds me of Jay 2009. Most muscular: please Kai, for the love of god..don't do the crab pose! Do it with one hand on the thigh, the other in front, looks way more aesthetic and this way his arms don't look like those of a marathon runner. *Phil* Phil is narrow upstairs but has impressive legs, this combination explains his horrible abs&thigh, he doesn't show a clear V-taper and one of his legs is the size of his entire upperbody...but the worst pose for Phil is the front latspread, it's a front latspread, not a front bicep/delt shot...In the front double biceps his extended midsection ruins everything. His side chest is complete, nothing negative to point out, maybe his glutes could have been more conditioned but that's nitpicking. Back latspread: it's quite controversial but his back latspread is probably his best pose (although I'd still give it to Kai for the withness and overall mass) while his front latspread is his worst. Back double biceps is in top 5 of that pose, ever. His tricep overshadows that of Kai in the side triceps pose, so do the details in his legs. Most muscular: overrated I'd say but still impressive to say the least, this year I actually think his crab pose was way better than the hand on the thigh. *Shawn* Not too much to say about him, one thing tho: he comes alive in the side poses and hands closed most muscular. He was way too soft in the other front poses, indeed. I actually have him winning the 2 side poses, based on aesthetics, but Phil destroyed it in terms of sheer size. If I were the Judge I'd hold these 3 positions the way they're standing...champ in the middle, Phil 2nd and Shawn 3rd.

phil won for sure because of facial muscles

13:27 - 14:00 lmao :') your humor is on point dude

Yea gotta agree with that. I concur.

Phil was better in almost every aspect. His belly was sticking out that's the only thing you can point out. They are both maxed out Phil just happen to have more mesomorphic build. Thicker muscles everywhere, in todays bodybuilding that's what matters. I like Kai better, but there's nothing he can do more to be better. You can see all his muscles are separated from his skin :D there's no more muscles to grow there or define.

phil has better hammies popping out and back thickness WITH detail also the radial brachialis really closes the show along with traps Kai doesn't have a good V taper either out of all 3

I love your videos but kai got robbed hands down.2014 was kai moment

We could see the bubble gut of Phill coming even in 2014!

Tom olatz has same forearms dude , u can't say u have never seen forearms

in the side chest kai over arches his lower back, he is just a horrible poser, but his stomach is not distended.

Honestly kai in my opinion is just not nice to look at, his torso is just a block and then his arms look gangly in comparison, and his legs just look odd. Overall just not pleasant to look at

save the Arnold man.

George Peterson's shape reminds me of Kai Green

Kai beat in every pose shame

only 3D effect phil has is his gut

That was Kai’s show! Man he got robbed! Rhodens arms and back literally suck. When you don’t have a good back, you should be out of the top 10 at the Olympia! Do you realize how hard it is to get a good back? It is easy to keep your waist small if you don’t train back. Heavy bent over rows and deadlifts will increase your waist consequently these guys have a bigger waist. Shaun has great lines which are God given. I don’t think there is a lot of effort goes in Shaun’s physique!

Yes certainly... Kai got robbed of Mr. Bubble Gut Olympia title.

rhoden using synthol ? how can he have those legs and midsection yet smooth arms ??

Love the channel, but disagree. Phil was inferior at this show.

The Grapefruit defeated Kai.

Never seen that before, forearm development? Ever hear of Lee Priest?

Personally the only poses Phil decisively wins is side tricep and most muscular. Maybe even the back lat spread but kai wins the others plus he is bigger. Phil was more conditioned but I his gut looks so awful from the front. I would probably give it to kai tbh

Ive always said Rhoden looked better than both of them that year. Finally people will take that opinion seriously

Literally almost 15 minutes with one background... Come on man.

Kai looks like he does he rear lat and front lat spread differently

Geez!! In one pose you say Kai looks like sh*t because he has no neck, and then in the RDB pose you're suggesting he should do more work on his traps because they are underdeveloped. That's absurd as the reason he doesn't should be quite clear. You say you're not biased, but it's quite clear you are.

I've got 16% body fat at 175lbs, obviously i dont have anything like these guys bodys but, BUT my tummy is a lot smaller, these guys have bigger tummys than many people who do nothing but drink beer all day.

kai's body posture making him more look like pregnant..his body posture is like of GSP, my friend is also like that, he dont do steroids or workout heavily its just his posture making him look pregnant gut.

Kais physique sucks it lacks a lot

phil phil phil

You have to show them in motion or you miss a lot

Shwan gut looks.bigger in front double even thou he has decent abs... but no body point it out ..did u notice that bro

Kai got involved with some gay BS (grapefruit) stuff. He will never be a champion because of that.

13:46 every time 😂

Kai Greene should be going for his 4th Mr Olympia title!Phils poses do not look natural.Kai Muscles are much more mature.

100% agree....Phil won but Kai behaved badly didn't help...Phil claims some sort of allergic reaction...judges excused it probably.

Kay was the best that period

Both Kai and Phil had stomach distention though so I never understood why people thought Kai was robbed because he wasn't. Should Kai have won maybe but it wasn't a robbery just a little controversial

All kai.. especially this shot

Phil was horrible on the first day and came in better on the second day. Kai was great on both days and was robbed.

Kai only wins in 3 poses then all the poses are for phil, very easy to see it.

U are off on this one

Bro your way wrong traps are majorly part of the rdb pose

Respect you but Kai was slightly better overall , Unfortunately to beat the reigning champ "slightly" is not enough ! He must knock him in order to win ! But I think Arnold 2016 version of Kai could of win easily VS 2014 version of Phill !

I hate Phil's double bi's. its stupid, guy had best guns in the world and his worst pose was front double biceps, what an irony