At 65. My best days were before technology. Now it's too much of a distraction. I'm glad I have a good woodsmanship foundation. You can keep your cell camera , your crossbows . But I appreciate the treestands. Old trad hunter here

Intrusive surveillance cameras are already a fact everywhere in normal day- to- day life. So, I'm not exactly inclined to cry if Kansas wants to keep them off public lands. And I've never been entirely okay having my picture randomly taken in the middle of the woods. Boots on the ground scouting and setups based only on sign analysis. The way it's always been until recently.

I’m from Kansas a lot of it had to deal with overwhelming calls of stolen cams..

100% Dan its not a competition. Worry about you not everyone else! Hunt to make you happy not anyone else!

Prob all the people that hunt public had to work during the vote

Doesn't impact me and I can see both sides of the argument. How many hunters want to be walking in the woods and feel like they're on cctv. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I feel bad for the Exodus guys as it will hurt their business. Though it sounds like they are trying to mitigate the risk by branching out into other products. I guess were does it stop with technology (Crossbows shooting 1000 FPS?, Muzzle loaders shooting 600 yards?, Cellular cameras notifying when a deer is in an exact location?, Thermal drones when deer driving?, Jet packs for access, Analytic systems to predict deer movement ? I think internet / social media has made hunting a ding dong swinging toxic environment.

I hunt in Kansas every year. Granted I hunt on private land and lease 3 different leases there. I dont have an opinion on it, but if I had to hunt public, I would definitely not want them to be banned.

Here in MO years ago we had the ability to vote on whether we should change when gun season starts. We as hunters came out and voted almost unanimously to push it back to December out of the rut. The politicians vetoed it and said that they wanted to keep the tradition of having it in November before Thanksgiving. But we all know it was all about the money. It just pisses me off why even put it out there for a vote.

I believe they should have to have a certain amount of woods

I have watched a John Dudley where he is in his home chilling, got a pic sent to him, ran out to his blind and killed the deer… for me it’s to each his own but I definitely think they have bigger fish to fry in terms of “fair chase”.

Can’t use them on conservation ground in Missouri. Always been that way

they have a number of meetings around the state then have a meeting to vote

I live in NE Kansas, had no idea a ban was even a coming possibility.

This seems like a constitutional rights violation. I can take pictures and videos anywhere I want to in a public place. I'm 50/50 on this one. I don't need one but a person should be allowed to use one if they wish. I actually hate them because I tend to get hung up on a big buck if seen on a trailcam and will sometimes neglect my other spots that also have potential for a bruiser.

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I am with tod. I am 64 and never used trail cameras in the past and did much better in those days than now days. however i hunt central Florida where deer never use the same bedding areas. We use them mainly to see how far they travel. We can get a pic of a buck on a camera and the next day get another pic of him a mile and a half away. I really love the amazing pics you can capture on cameras of many other things than deer.

I'm all for trail cams and cellular cams -- legally. I'm in Wisco. The regulations state each cam must have the DNR number and owners name. With all the scouting I do, I always find cams = and only one had the proper ID on it. Same with treestands - I'd love you guys to do a show discussing how unethical it is to leave tree stands where it is illegal. Thank you for the content...and I love hunting mobile your beast stand Dan!

how about this... Any cameras left unattended on public property become public property ?

Hi. Thought I would give my 2 cents. Was for cams now against. Been hunting public in many states for over 30yrs. How cams are being used and how many there are in the field has gotten out of hand. Couldn’t finish the video. I knew before watching where you’d stand based and friendship with exodus. I believe they should be banned on public and during hunting season. Dan’s frustration was apparent when on several scouting missions he kept running into cameras. Can’t justify something based on fact there still be criminals doing it. The overwhelming comments for that exodus video wasn’t in support. Plus it isn’t from people that don’t own or use them. It’s how there being abused. I shouldn’t have to walk threw the woods having video and pics taken every few hundred yards. People also think the camera lays claim to a location. Old school scouting is Dan’s thing. That’s why I watch. Inventory of deer on private is one thing. But people are using them to hunt. If you watch enough KZfaq videos it becomes apparent.

Unfortunately for the hunters, it probably wasn’t that advertised that a hearing and vote was even going to take place, if it was heavily advertised, I think the hunters would of showed up big time!!

Hard to ban cameras on privet land as millions of people use them for security cameras.

Serial killer 2024 🎉

Maybe they should ban scent blocker technology.... eh .... John E ?

NY you can't leave a tree stand in the woods as many other states. It's like seeing trash in the Public land not cool.

Good, hopefully carries over to other states

No cameras, private or public during deer season. I believe Montana is that way.

It's nice to hear people talking with some damn commonsense today.

Things could be much worse. You can still hunt. You can still do what you want in your hunting life. All that is gone is public land cams. No big deal to me. Some of this is land claim. "I have cams in this public spot so this spot is mine!" The guys complaining the most are the guys (and gals) that are too dependant on tech and gizmos to be successful.

The longest row in the field is around the out side. Here in pa. Farmers are have to farm ever inch because alot of land is going into solar farms making less land to farm

Trail cams have almost become an obsession to a lot of hunters. It’s about .001% of my strategy. I’ve seen them do more harm than good for some hunters who become reliant on them. I can honestly say I have never ran a camera on public land. I own 2 cams, 1 card cam and 1 cell cam that I run on my own land and permission land for inventory purposes only or to let me know if a new buck has shown up during the rut that I didn’t otherwise know about. Cameras don’t tell the whole story, they’re just a small snapshot of what’s happening in my humble opinion.

non-resident abuse caused locals to revolt....problem with trophy states

Good discussion. Josh and Dan, it must be hard being so polite when talking about the governments. I know the governments disgust me, and thats me being polite also.

Not using cams don't bother me it's the fact that discussions and decisions are held behind closed doors and then last min notifies the public saying "oh hey, we are thinking about this and this will be talked about at 9:00am today in person only".... But it's 11:00am why I'm I just now getting the email.🤬

if the trail cam manufacturers had an ounce of sense, they would pull all cell cams off the market .. but they will likely just continue selling them and end up with full bans in all 50 states.

That just means the juice isn’t worth the squeeze! Tired of the stealing and thus the headaches

how is it any different than doorbell cameras?

Lots of jealousy in the deer hunting world.

I usually agree with Dan on everything but the opinion that if it’s legal on private it should be legal on public doesn’t make sense. That’d mean ladder stands could be left on public, food plots could be developed, and UTV’s could be driven everywhere. Idc about trail cams. I just think people are short changing themselves the experience of a hard.

Modern technology is not going to hurt the deer population. If people are more successful and finding better quality deer people are less likely to take the 4 point or a doe and wait to harvest the mature deer that have produced offspring. In reality most people can’t understand enough to actually use the technology to become a better hunter.

I guess the only question I have is how are they even going to police it??

No need to destroy deer habitat for pen raised pheasants that are going to be released every fall anyways .

I am ok with outlawing it during rut for a 10 day time period. But also think it's a slippery slope.

i agree, i hunt public land, cameras should only be used on private,

cell cams are ruining it for everyone .. with a regular sd card cam, you have to make the effort to go in, pull the card, etc. not knowing what is there and what you are going to find .. with a cell cam, you can be remotely alerted that a deer is standing there and go after him at that moment in time .. if people don't understand the ethical difference, I am not sure what else to say.

I’m with Kansas. Ya can’t take a piss in Wisconsin on public land without getting on a camera.

The guides have a lot of pull on the laws nowadays because there kickin back to some of the higher ups in the game departments and there scared to death that someone may kill a big buck and there not going to get there scummy hands full of money.... Guide services are the ruination of hunting in my opinion if a guide reads this and gets pissed off to bad get a real job and quit leaching off fhe wildlife

Kansas Parks and wildlife is a joke... Lived there for 4 years. Combining. wildlife. and. parks is a dumb idea to begin with

The day I cannot put a game camera on my own property is along way off I would hope! I don't use cell cameras! Great job Serial killer! Careful with the old white guy statement! I have shot more deer than you have young man!

Nonresidents is the issue it sounds like.

And gave literally zero data or proof as to why they are banned. It's awesome. Appointed people placing restrictions on your rights and privileges. Common scene nowadays when it comes to governing...

I haven’t heard anybody say why they did this or even anybody have a reasonable theory for why. Josh the outro is whack

Lazy, cheap arguments to slam people for using crossbows... go check out the history of bows. Compounds were vilified too when they first came out.

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