Scott: how do I balance things out? Me: Well you could run each eeveelution but that would be craz- Scott: Im gonna do each battle!

Round of applause for Scott for getting this done! I can’t wait.

Well learned something new today, turns out Venomoth is actually an electric grass type pokemon, for years ive thought it was a rock scissors type pokemon. Thank You Scott lol

this is most definitely your magnum opus so far, extremely detailed on the gen 1 mechanics and -bugs- quirks, on top of an already complex three-way race. definitely a great place to start for viewers new to your channel. Good Work Scott, heres to gen 3, 30k, and beyond!

I think this format would be interesting for the Eveelution speeds too. Maybe not against every rival, but having them race would be interesting.

On your first Lance fight with Charizard, (uh, around 53 minutes), Charizard got paralyzed. If that happens, and you have Dig or Fly on your moveset, you should attempt that move. In gen 1, if you are in the invulnerable stage of Dig/Fly, and get fully paralyzed, you remain invulnerable until using the move again. It is kind of a free win. A bit cheesy, and not practical to guarantee, but worth exploiting when you have the opportunity.

the Only time ive popped in early on a Premiere, because i just wanna cast my vote for mah boy BLASTOISE...Squirtle-Squad for life!

Scott, I think Brock should be its own metric. I’ve noticed that the time it takes against Brock tends to depend heavily on moves learned early in the game. Pokémon not meant to be found at lower levels tend to be at a severe disadvantage by not having good moves available at a reasonable level. Im thinking there may be a way to break down your times into sections for more metrics: 1. Brock (time from beginning to beating Brock) 2. Exploding Hiker (CUT and the Cascade Badge are required. Thunder Badge is optional for this metric. Exploding Hiker is recommended as the mark for this leg) 3. 7 badges (Rocket story is finished, Rival Fival, time finishes once all seven badges are obtained) 4. Endgame (Earth Badge, Rival 6, Elite 4, and Champion.)

I love how you pick this video as a tutorial for the rest - after all, “which Kanto starter is best?” is the sort of Pokémon question that will get tons of new people’s attention, even if the length might worry someone.

Venusaur's my favorite, so that's what I'm rooting for. It seems really good for solo runs based on what I've seen for just Bulbasaur alone. I did a solo FRLG (different gen, yeah, but same region, and worse AI and opponent movesets, and almost guaranteed crit razor leaf all day will all make it stronger in yellow) run as a kid, and it was probably the quickest and easiest run through of a pokemon game I've ever done. It was actually really fun just making one pokemon really strong, and while I've done other starter only playthroughs, I didn't find them noticeably overperforming as much as Venusaur. My GOAT.

Great video, the production quality on these recent challenges has been off the charts, especially this feature length masterpiece!

Just want to say, I really appreciate the metrics you use. It kinda helps it stand out in its own way. It does actually add a good deal of scientific rigor to what is ultimately arbitrary and somewhat lucky. And I really enjoy your competitive battle stances with similar Pokemon. Also, as a piano player myself, I love the 5 times perfect rule.

Charizard is drowning in agony as Blastoise laughs in victory. This was still an amazing video Scott! Long but enjoyable as heck! Merry Christmas and looking forward to the future of future contents!

Oh, this is a really nice christmas gift, thank you Scott ♥ I think that: -Venusaur is going to have a REALLY easy early game, however the mid to late game is going to be hard (Surge and Erika aren't easy, Koga, Sabrina and Blaine are hard, then there's Agatha, Lance and the Champion that are going to be difficult). -Charizard has a HARD early game, Brock and Misty are going to waste a lot of time, then it's not so difficult until Lorelei and the Champion, I don't think the rest are going to be hard at all. -Blastoise has a good start and then it slows down a bit (Misty, Surge, Erika) but then it will become quite easy until probably the Champion because it has access to some good moves, even Erika could be easy if you get Ice Beam early, but sadly Wartortle doesn't have a good Special stat. I put my vote in Venusaur, but this is going to be really close

Merry Christmas from Sweden : ) I'm home sick instead of visiting family and I'm happy you're doing this today so I have something to watch

I found your channel because youtube algorithm showed a video of you after me binge watching Jrose for a while, and I quite enjoyed, and the different strategies and approaches to every roadblock in the game is interesting to watch, given your different playstyles, thanks for the video, saved a boring Xmas night

Personally I always hold off on evolution of the starters to learn Razor Leaf and Flamethrower earlier (respectively). Everything gets so much smoother after that. By the way, hope all is well.

I’ve watched every video you’ve made, easily one of my favorite channels on KZfaq. The progression you’ve made with the video quality has been really sweet, though I still love the early vids

I love your content because its a beautiful blend of theorycrafting and actual learning through experience. Some speedruns are too solved. Your solution might not have to be the most optimized but its extremely entertaining anyways.

The amount of detail is much appreciated as a viewer. Hope this channel grows even more in 2022. I will definitely be here to witness it!

I love your analysis of the different data you’ve collected. You stated venasaur is the most intuitive and that was a unique take that I haven’t seen you or anyone else take in other videos. I love your content dude. Keep it up!

For Venusaur, Growth + Mega Drain + Body Slam (+ filler) is a huge asset considering it allows to use the Badge Boost glitch while going mixed with recovery, not to mention that this way you boost your defence towards special attacks. I think that you should do a re-run with Venusaur this way. Merry Christmas.

Let's go Scott! I've been waiting for this video for so long! Thankful for all the work it must have taken and I know it is going to be great because all your videos are! Keep it up and remember to always take care of yourself when you need it we will always be here for you! And have a merry Christmas and happy holidays Scott

I remember watching this video while visiting my parents last year on Christmas eve and got drunk and watched this video while going to bed in my old bedroom. Now I am rewatching it 1 year later and am less drunk but still in the same bedroom. Merry Christmas Scott

Great job team! Glad you have lots of help now Scott :) fantastic video, well worth the effort!

Scott, I just started watching the video, but I want to just say how much I've been appreciating the extra content the past few days. Really enjoy your videos. Been a subscriber since early spring!

Bulbasaur was my favorite Pokémon. Because of that, I’d usually pick the grass starter for every Pokémon game that came out afterwards 😂 I have a bias for the first generation. It feels so much more special than all the others. So much nostalgia.

Gotta appreciate the effort that was put into this, was such a great movie to watch! Also, go team Venasaur! I remember False Swipe Gaming also saying that it's the most consistent starter even in competitive 😅

So excited for this. I’m gonna choose team blastoise as that’s the speed run strat. Love the videos Scott!

A MILLION CHEERS FOR SHAWN!!! Editor extraordinaire, keeper of the Gen 1 mentions count, so glad the channel made it through the burnout thanks to him :>

It took me 3 tries to finish this video because I did pass out each time! But my boy Venusaur pulls through! I'm happy with it's performance, I always started with this dude.

Blastoise reigns supreme! I had a feeling Charizard wasn't going to win, but the gains he made were incredible. I also have a little more respect for Venusaur after this

Scott this was a long time coming and SO worth the wait. Enjoy your holidays!

41:16 “Now I’m feeling insecure because my pp is too low. Without it I won’t be able to continue body slamming” come on this had to be on purpose haha

This was great. Thank you for all the effort and time spent on this.

The fact this man can now do charmander sub one hour shows how much he has imrpved over the years

Yeah, I think there was a lot of room to improve with Charizard. Some tough spots for him. But definitely could have gotten a bit closer to the others with the huge lead it could establish early on.

As someone who's done minimum battle runs in Yellow with all 3 of the Kanto starters, I think you ended up with most of the "best" strategies with all of them. A couple of suggestions: For Venusaur vs Agatha, you could teach Mimic over Body Slam. Mimic Lick, then use it + Swords Dance to beat her a bit more consistently. Then Mimic could be used against the final trainers (on Gyarados' Hyper Beam and Sandslash's Earthquake) to finish the league out. For Blastoise, Withdraw is actually pretty decent. I do think it helps consistency against some fights, although, admittedly, it doesn't work everywhere. Not much you could do with Charizard that you didn't try; its good, but inconsistent.

This video was great. Love the very long form content. Thanks a lot, Scott. I’ll keep coming back as long as you make em.

Well this video is my Christmas gift. Thank you! Also I love longer videos

Blastoise was always my gen 1 starter of choice. Strong defensive typing with access to strong ground and ice moves for good coverage. My brother always accused me of counter picking his Charizard. Over 20 years later, I finally feel justified.

No time to watch it yet but I know it’s gonna be good and also I love your work Scott you are quickly becoming my favourite Pokémon challenge youtuber.

He wasn't even done explaining all the work that went into this video and I just had to sub. This guy puts in the work

Great job Scott The wait was long but it was a great video One of the best vs you’ve done

Blastoise was my fav as a kid. Loved turtles. But now since most of my love for Pokémon is based on battling? I go for venasur and sun team. Venasaur is such a beast on Sun teams.

As soon as I saw you reach the exploding hiker and used Ember, I figured this wasn't gonna end in its favor. I still prefer Charizard over the other two, there are a huge number of water types and easily acquired grass types in gen 1.

really awesome that you uploaded this on xmas, im so busy I wish I could watch it all in one go. but for those who arent busy or are stuck in, its really nice to have something to watch and take your mind off things. thanks for being thoughtful of your fans.

Hahaha I thought this run being two weeks away was just a meme at this point. Can't wait to watch!

"So in order to test which was most optimal, I just did 4 runs with each starter." I am impressed at the tenacity and dedication, but *WHY*

I always loved Blastoise. Now as an adult I know there are a lot more water types that are just as good, if not better but I just couldn't be bothered to fish back then. Also gotta say surf, ice beam, earthquake/dig(It was 100 power in gen 1) as three of the four moves was pretty dang coverage compared to the other two starters.

Been waiting forever for this and it was worth it. Thanks for the great content

I hope this video blows up because you put so much damn research into this

blastoise will always be my favorite starter, i tried playing gen 4 when I was younger with chimchar and being so frustrated that I couldn't dent roark that I vowed to pick water as my default choice in the future

Blastoise was always the coolest imo. You did a ton of work on this video!

Just came to thank for the Christmas gift! I will watch it later, but I already know that the video is great! Hope you have a good time and rest this holiday season!

Valio cada segundo de la 1h30min de video 🤩 Y no recordaba la gran diferencia de movimientos entre red y yellow, intentare mas runs en yellow desde ahora. Felices fiestas Scott 🙌

Regardless of the outcomes, I'd still pick Charmander any day when it comes to gen 1, he was my first ever. I do also think that certain starters should also have gotten 2 megas if Zard did. Was interesting to see how they matched up. I remember beating Rhydon in Gym Leader Giovanni battle with fire spin back in the original yellow playthrough I did as a kid.

Venusaur might not has won like expected, but it got pretty respectable times, and it certainly seems more consistent overall.

I think your round 1 data actually explains a lot of why people like the Charmander line: it's extremely fast in the early game. During this part of the game you're super limited on the Pokemon you can use and the ones you can are pretty meh against the common trainers while Charmander just nukes then down. I know whenever I played gen 1 I just used Charmander through the first 3 or 4 gyms and then started rounding out a full team once there are more pokemon/move types available. Also, love your content! It's been awesome to watch your journey from your early Butterfree runs all the way through til now. I often watch your content as I wind down for sleep, so hopefully the KZfaq algorithm likes when I go back and watch the same video multiple times from falling asleep. Keep up the awesome work!

Love this. Love everything about it. Even though Charizard didn't win all rounds. I'm glad you made this and hope it gets you all the views I thought it would. Worth the 8 month wait since the Heracross video.

I feel like it might be worthwhile to make the metrics include either total Exp or number of extra battles... accounting for experience would be a better representation of grinding since not all levels are made equal.

Calling Blastoise right now.

I love everything about this, including every laugh when you comment on the length of the video.

from jrose and now you, it really seems like there's a group of people doing something cool. it is i very cool thing to see online i've only seen 2 of your videos so far but am subscribing now, leaving a video with a positive feeling is such a great thing

Prediction time. 3rd place: Charizard, but maybe not as far behind as lost anticipate. He's got speed and decent special, but really only shines in mid game. 2nd place: Venusaur, but it's close. Speed is going to be the biggest detriment. Has decent move pool and good early and late game matchups. 1st place: Blastoise. Ok speed, great move pool, similar advantages to Venusaur but isn't scared of rivals Alakazam and can handle most of Elite 4.

Let's see, assuming you start with their full evolution they start with the following moves: Charizard: - Scratch - Growl - Ember - Leer Blastoise: - Tackle - Tail Whip - Bubble - Watergun Venusaur: - Tackle - Growl - Leech Seed - Vine Whip I figured, maybe their starting moves are going to heavily impact their Brock performance. But while Charizard has a type disadvantage, Ember is still kind of decent because of Geodudes and Onix' low special stat. And that time to Mt. Moon actually may be even be better than the others, because it can dispatch all the bug catchers much quicker. So I predict the early game to be reasonably even. Gym 2 is where I think Charizard will have to get Bodyslam before Misty, and lose a bit of time later due to backtracking.. Or maybe Bide could come in handy. And while Blastoise could probably defeat Misty early, I'm not sure that's worth it, since it may not be the wisest choice to immediately defeat Surge anyways, and with Bodyslam Misty should be a fair bit faster. Charizard may struggle a bit on the Hiker in the dark tunnel, but beyond that I think it'll be fine... So.. Since I have no idea how it'll actually be play out, here's my semi-random prediction: - Blastoise will be last. While it's strong, it is mostly defensively oriented. It can dispatch Lance probably the easiest thanks to Blizzard though, so that may be a sticking point for the other two - Venusaur will be 2nd. I think the biggest difficulty is going to be Agatha, since it doesn't really have a useful coverage move to hit the ghost types. But I feel like until then, it may actually be faster than both of the others - Charizard will be 1st, as it's reasonably offensively oriented. Acquiring Slash early and later and Swords Dance will allow it to sweep reasonably well, and potentially overcoming the early weakness So... No idea how it'll play out in the video. But Scott, thanks a ton for your effort, your videos. It has been a delight watching you grow as a content creator this year, your spin on the challenge runs is really refreshing, and I do actually adore your somewhat dorky demeanor. Looking forward to actually watching it :)

"I've got a girlfriend" Charizard gets ditto. "What now?"

Absolutely loved watching this vid, on christmas day whilst having my post presents opening cup of tea, I truly lobe the content you create and how your ranking and attention to details differs from other content creators, along with your great personality just makes for great viewing. Glad to see you've developed a small team to help with the burn out, don't want to see you struggling in life when you help so many escape reality for a brief time with your videos. Merry Christmas Scott P.S the bloopers is geniunely a genius addition to videos like this, love it

I am really excited to see this one my boy Venusaur always had him as a starter. I see him doing good early and mid game late game being difficult.

I'm predicting Venusaur to win. Blastoise will most likely come second, and Charizard will likely fall behind easily in the first two gyms.

This video is incredible, the level of detail is astounding. Fantastic work

I'm impressed by how thorough you are

Come on Charizard, show the world why you are the most popular starter. Also, Merry Christmas to everyone.

it was pretty obvious Charizard would do worse than the 2 others, but it's surprising how much it actually struggled in comparison still

Great video love the fact that there were runs to test agains all possible eeveelution teams. Quick thought, on Venusaur would mega drain not be a better move over razor leaf? Lower base power but less crits (for badge boosting), more accurate and regains health! Keep up the great work 👍

I've come to a conclusion recently that Bulbasaur is some kind of Synapsid Stem-Mammal (formerly known as "Mammal-Like Reptiles") that dominated the Permian period and the early Triassic before the Dinosaurs evolved. The most famous of these including Dimetrodon, Moschops, and Lystrosaurus.

Venasaur has my vote. I always pick him in my gen 1 playthroughs, I have no idea if he's actually good or not for races but I'm excited for this!

The triple threat ❤ I want Charizard to win, but I feel that blastoise will emerge victorious

1:20:10 I have never felt so spoken to from a YT Video before, just waking up, not even having opened up my eyes yet. That being said, good morning from Germany, I had a decent night's sleep! PS: Your videos are greatly appreciated!

An hour and a half video, so awesome! Is gonna make my 12hr shift much better!

I'm giving the edge to Venusaur. I hate voting against mah boy Blastoise, but Venusaur get's growth, and with a special boosting move, in gen 1, WITH badge boosts...I don't think the other two have a chance.

Charizard is for try hards. Venusaur is for pansies. Blastoise is for gangstas. 😎

Wow, good reason this video took so long to finish. So much content to go through. I really appreciate what you and the team were able to do to get this video out. I'm also very happy my favorite Kanto starter (and one of my favorite pokemon) won out on the starter challenge. I wasn't sure if Venusaur could beat it, but glad the turtle hung on. Really looking forward to seeing the first Gen 3 video next.

Holy shit, it’s finally coming. Thank you for this Christmas gift!

Matching Scott's prediction here, I think Blastoise is going to be faster. There's a reason Blastoise was used in older routes of the speedrun for Blue.

Willing to bet Blastoise takes this challenge. Too many advantages/neutral matchups compared to the others plus a good moveset. Charazard will be last.

Venasaur: Toxic and leach seed glitch, razor leaf 90% critrate, no energyball or leaf blade or sludge bomb/fairy types yet though. Charizard benefits the most of the three from the special stat split. Fire punch makes the long wait until flamethrower less painful. Blastoise: Surf, Icebeam, Earthquake, (bodyslam for Gen 1) or (Outrage for emulators or confusion for those into breeding in Gen 2.)

Visual evidence lol And I feel like you were addressing me when you mentioned falling asleep and letting your playlist auto play haha! I know I’m not the only one.

A note on people comparing your videos to jrose11, or really any solo Pokemon KZfaq videos. I don't see it as a problem. You're all different people and bring different perspectives to the challenges. I enjoy watching each of you for different reasons.

Take a drink of what you're hydrating with every time he says "Generation one"

I saw the premier go live, but I was occupied doing something else. Then it was 1 and I still saw it going and I was like "There's no way-" Yup. Hour and a half long. Good job man.

youth opened my eyes, how could i NOT see that Bulbasaur is a freaking frog!

Thank you, Sean, for helping power the channel! Your editing work is noticed and appreciated every time, even the little things. Keep it up man!

1:20:19 LMAO i was literally watching this at 5am and was so SOOO tired but wanted to finish, then he came along and told me to get my ash to bed so I did 😭❤ that was needed broski ty

Hour and a half of Scott's Thouhts? Is this our Christmas gift? Love it

First video I've seen from this creator... Love it! Got a back log to go through!

Fantastic work! You put in so much effort but was a lot of fun to watch. You and your whole team did a great job.

This Is going to be my company this cristhmas. Thank you daddy Scott

I cant believe how much your channel has grown since this video, i feel like you should do an Ivysaur, Wartortle, and Charmeleon subscriber special

First time I've commented on any Pokemon challenge video (and I've watched a ton of them). You're my favorite one to watch, by far. Funny and personable, thorough with your analysis, and entertaining. Keep it up man!