Herbert von Karajan rehearsing Schumann's 4th with the Wiener Symphoniker
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@johnmccauley98697 жыл бұрын
I was in a master class where he was to "teach." He walked about and among the student orchestra players asking and telling giving fingerlings, having groups play together and alone, never raising his arms, used a nod, an eyebrow to get them to play. Accomplished giving the players help and improving passages, sounds. Like a good H.S. Orchestra teacher. It was an object lesson about what is most important, not how you wave a stick. He was kind and considerate. IMO, a great conductor, a fine man.
@calvinchiu18833 жыл бұрын
Karajan was the best and greatest conductor. He saw details that other great conductors didn't/don't see. Not only was he a great conductor, his music videos are among the very best. Videos that he art directed and edited himself. In composing, there were Mozart and Beethoven, in conducting, there was Karajan.
Previously when one has seen Karajan in all his videos of symphonic works and concert recordings he obviously wanted to create an impression of himself as being rather rigid and despotic. On the other hand here, while still being authoritative, he is nevertheless incredibly relaxed and quite delightful and absolutely charming in his body language and movement. Pity that this more endearing side to him was not so conspicuous during his public performances.
@nicolecourtois52284 жыл бұрын
He is a German man anyway, so he used to work very proudly and serious so much..!
@gerdmunzert31502 жыл бұрын
Wunderbar diese Arbeit, ein Traum, man möchte fast sagen..... schon eine Probe war ein Erlebnis....
@Ichioku2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolecourtois5228 Austrian, not German.
@MScJorgePoveda15 жыл бұрын
Con que claridad Karajan nos enseña la diferencia entre un "stacatto" y un " legato" y nos deja la sensacion de un " obstinato" usando-nada menos que de conejillo de indias a su primer violin de la mejor orquesta en su tiempo. Claramente un maestro para quien tenga la paciencia de ver este video y extrar valiosas lecciones de el.
@quocanh31276 жыл бұрын
those were lucky musicians. they were taught by a greatest conductor ever
@ToxicTurtleIsMad11 ай бұрын
Truly a "maestro"
@khaderach1916 жыл бұрын
keep in mind that this is is a professional orchestra, keeping up the with the conductors interpretation/directions and acting upon them immediately, is required of the job. Even most high school orchestras and bands students must keep up with stylistic and other changes on the fly.
@Fasama313 жыл бұрын
Es el video que mas me ha gustado ver de los que he visto en youtube, y sin saber traducir completamente los subtitulos, pero ver a este maestro trabajando me a sumergido en la manera de perfeccionar los sonidos para su maravillosa perspectiva musical.
@rosemarie28413 жыл бұрын
🎶 Wunderbar 🎶
@jackd8602 Жыл бұрын
Stunning!
@renato4522212 жыл бұрын
Nonostante la qualitàscadente di questi video di Clouzot, emerge chiara la sapienza di Karajan di giungere subito al punto rilevante di un passo e di trasmettere all'orchestra (in questo caso i Wiener Symphoniker, coi quali non aveva un rapporto stretto) COME bisogna suonare.
@KareemPilot4 жыл бұрын
I note some comments about some sloppily played passages (relative to world class standards, obviously) but I think it's important to note the type of interpreter Karajan was... he was generally more concerned with getting a beautiful tone out of an orchestra and a sense of lyricism and legato... he wasn't a precision conductor... compare his reading of this particular symphony with George Szell, to see what I mean... under Szell's baton, the Cleveland Orchestra plays with knife-edge precision and discipline; every passage played perfectly... I don't think one is necessarily more or less valid than the other. Both result in a compelling performance of the work. I personally prefer Szell's approach and the Clevelanders' playing style to that of Karajan/Vienna but that's just a matter of individual taste... Karajan was clearly a great and major conductor
@dlhuo23402 жыл бұрын
He is the BEST.
@user-ki5yb6cu5l10 ай бұрын
You don't understand his art
@kaleidoscopio55 жыл бұрын
I always heard that Karajan was a selfish bastard with big ego......here, I see a very serious conductor who knows perfectly how to interprete a score and has no fear to say it, he is strong but for the sake of music.
@jorgefleitas98352 жыл бұрын
Master clases!!!
@quesadiya13 жыл бұрын
no hay que olvidar que tambien en director esta con una orquesta muy buena!
@dr3Am3r7316 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more...
@cellospot15 жыл бұрын
@deiyeiG: Pretty close. Usually in the last rehearsal before a performance or recording, the conductor rehearses the orchestra on those parts that either have proved troublesome or in which the character of the piece needs to be brought out more/less. It's just touching up on something that's probably perfect already, but just making sure. :)
@barbavassilis11 жыл бұрын
teaching first violinms in the best orchestra the difference between staccato and legato ? can his genious may just be his ability to observe the simple that nobody ever tried to see ?
@viibridges11 жыл бұрын
that's professional.
@Vesivian11 жыл бұрын
HvK! That's a cool nickname!
@oatboy15 жыл бұрын
I thought he was saying he was not using their change, but it was a little hard to tell.
@janicehu28463 жыл бұрын
没有中文翻译好遗憾,好喜欢看他排练现场。卡拉扬简直是神一样的存在
@barbavassilis11 жыл бұрын
agreed
@coesterr15 жыл бұрын
S. g. Hr. Stresemann, Koennten Sie bitte konkreter erklaeren wie Sie zu dieser Einschaetzung kommen?
@juancoronado28911 жыл бұрын
Just if they are ignorant musicians, because the things which Karajan rehearse are really important in the sound that he wants to get. And in one piece like this all the time the first violins have the melody, for that reason Karajan all the time go to them...
@user-vl2hq2wm9i3 жыл бұрын
Гений
@dollyross64116 жыл бұрын
quale attenzione alla musicalita
@MR-bw2bv Жыл бұрын
御芸術ですこれが
@cobrafarmer16 жыл бұрын
Karajan was quite the showman, but at his best he was great. Plus he looks a little like Brad Pitt. I dig his conducting in this excerpt, but his comments all seem rather staged. Note how he talks and immediately conducts with no preparation and those musicians don't miss a beat.
@SpongeMindTV7 жыл бұрын
i agree and i think there was a reason. i think this production was more for the audience than for the musicians. For people to see how a rehearsal process works. Sort of like Bernstein's lecture/performance?
@fcmilsweeper911 жыл бұрын
Of course of course I kid I kid
@berlinzerberus15 жыл бұрын
ein seltsamer mann! [stresemann,intendant des bpho]
@Vito_Lo_Re16 жыл бұрын
Una macchina da guerra.
@Golder104115 жыл бұрын
NO this is awesome, why comment on something you no nothing about.
@massimolioy16 жыл бұрын
micidiale,che mente
@user-gn6go7pc9b Жыл бұрын
Все эти восторга по поводу гениальности нуждаются в очень важном уточнении:работать нужно с оркестром ,естественно обладая талантом
@alex45.08 Жыл бұрын
That's certainly true. But before Karajan started working with the Vienna Symphony (this orchestra here) they had a much worse reputation and also their quality of playing improved under him so that they gained a better reputation in Vienna where they had been viewed a 2nd class orchestra compared to the VPO before. This had already happened at the time when this film was made (he was already principal conductor of the BPO and didn't work regularly with this orchestra anymore) So there also must be a conductor who is able to tell the musicians the right things how to play. And in that Karajan seems to have had some success. IMO he was one of the best conductors in explaining how he wanted a phrase or a motive to sound. That's why his sound is so different and distinctive from every other conductor.
@coesterr15 жыл бұрын
He agrees with their concept but does not use their instrumentation but sticks to the original one
@Lobocito8711 жыл бұрын
Ja, die Ansicht ist insofern berechtigt, als man ihm immer nachgesagt hat, bei ihm merke man, dass Dirigieren auch körperlich anstrengend ist.:)
@pianopera11 жыл бұрын
Irritated? Aber der Karajan hat ja Recht! ;-)
@BlauerBooo13 жыл бұрын
wie er immer schnauft oder stöhnt oder irgendwas dazwischen ab 3:15 wenn die post abgeht :D sicher muss er sich sehr zusammenreißen, dass er nicht auch im konzert auch auditiv so mitgeht :D
@alex45.08 Жыл бұрын
Hat er in der Tat häufiger gemacht. Hört man auch z.B. auf dem Teaser zu der 4. Brahms auf dem Kanal der Berliner Philharmoniker. Oder auch zum Beispiel bei einer CD Aufnahme aus den 70ern im Finale der 2. Brahms, bevor die 1. Geigen in der Reprise mit dem Hauptthema einsetzen.
@LuizBHMG12 жыл бұрын
The used video coverter is seriously disrespecting Karajan and Schumann! An irreverence!
@jean-christopheMiquel-ef3ur3 жыл бұрын
Ещё националист и наци Караянис из Македонии ? He was arrested in 1945.
@detectivehome33183 жыл бұрын
?? WHO??
@ffotograffyddgohebwyr83085 жыл бұрын
This whole performance by Karajan is purely for the camera.It would take a whole week just to rehearse the first movement at this rate.The start of his pure nepotism with regards to his control over Deutsche Grammophon and the Berlin Philharmonic.At the end of the day he was just very good.Nothing more nothing less.
@chrish1234512 жыл бұрын
how and why could you rehearse a rehearsal
@supernova19698 жыл бұрын
Does he need to advertise himself at the expense of experienced musicians? Typical of some people.
@logodaedalist8 жыл бұрын
After all the maestro is the one responsible for the interpretation.Almost all major conductors have videos in rehearsal , e.g. Böhm rehearsing Don Juan .. Check it out
@ismaelsaeed67818 жыл бұрын
True. But! The man is clearly advertising himself. This is a polite way of saying that he is humiliating his colleagues. We are talking about human nature, Dear Friend. God bless you. Amen
@ismaelsaeed67818 жыл бұрын
I hardly need to check other conductors. What I see here is appalling . If other conductors practice the same humiliation with musicians twice their age, so? Two wrongs can never make one right. Peace and Love, Dear Brother
@osrub57878 жыл бұрын
What is it here that you find appalling??
@osrub57878 жыл бұрын
There is no humiliation. You just don't like Karajan's way, that's it. It's fine. Language can't express all of our experiences. Many people today see any useful correction as an attack to their egos. There is no need for that.
@fcmilsweeper914 жыл бұрын
the first violinist must be REALLY irritated.
@adriancook70785 жыл бұрын
All these ideas and putting them together but I still don't feel the power of the music and the orchestra playing together as one sound as you do with Toscanini and Toscanini and Toscanini........the only 3 conductors ever.