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Him and John Wiseman are on the same plane as far as I'm concerned. But wye aye man, those two are about the most knowledged in the subject. It's a damn shame they're on their way out, but at least they have individuals who're willing to take up the torch when they close their eyes for the last time.

Honesty, why should it matter to you or anyone else what someone does with their knife. If they break it, would it derail your day or ruin your life? I can take my knife, that I made from a fragment of cross cut saw blade, and throw it off a cliff if I want and the only person it will hurt is me. I never would because It's more special to me than anything some $200 knife made by a fancy name grinder jockey would make, and yes, I also use the wedge technique. It's quicker anyway and can do heavier work than a kinife alone. Really though, anti-batonning fanboys really need to just fuck off with their slander and leave everyone else to their own choices.

Amen. I never thought of what he coverd and now I will be definitely adding a fixed blade to my pack. I may even practice this in my backyard.

no, he is THE master other masters look up to.

+mintyvision really? it's how I split wood in the country because my mom didn't trust me to not chop down the entire forest if we had a hatchet. all I had was a paring knife and a knee high crook in a tree and I had to make the best of it because she refused to buy a new saw after racoons stole the old one. built myself a clubhouse with nothing but scrap and improvised tools.

Jabun The Wanderer Mors is an instructor (retired, but never stop?) and have been so a very long time. You may have had some knowledge, but how much instruction and sharing of understanding have you done on the subject you talk about? Instructing and teaching others is a skill, and what I have seen, heard and read (I have his instruction manual for instructors) he is a master instructor. Heck, I have had instructors that had instructors that had Mors as instructor. He has put a lot into the pool of shared understanding.

You are so right. I mean, shite mate, look at the knife Otzi carried. With that and a 14 oz copper celt axe, there wasn't much he couldn't do to keep himself alive.

I did a big ski tour expedition style and I just brought a small Puukko but it’s been not sufficient. We needed a small axe and a saw

Yes, very fine Hat.

I have never seen or heard a comment denouncing Mors

I've seen many indignant comments in regards to him defining what a survival knife is and isn't. They call him pretentious and full of himself for doing so. Some have even compared him to Ray "Martha Stewart" Mears.

@@7wildernessSpecialist theres one just above by SignedSign!

***** "people don't typically carry axes, hatchets, saws, or machetes around with them on a daily basis" People don't typically carry medium-sized sheath knives around with them on a daily basis. Most people EDC folding knives at most. Of course you can do anything with a 9 inch Bowie, but the Bowie will be awkward to use for anything except processing wood, due to the long and heavy blade. The increased mass is likely to fatigue your joints faster, and beyond chopping the added weight and length provide no benefit. If you have some sort of survival kit in your car or backpack, you can carry a 1lb beast of a knife, or a hatchet-knife combo that weights as much and does more. This comes from a guy who actually owns and uses these large knives.

Good points man. They are all very relevant. I too am quickly becoming of the mentality that knives shouldn't be batoned with... If you need the ability to chop wood, then use a tool that was designed to chop wood (a hand axe), likewise if you need to whittle something like a figure 4 deadfall trap then use a tool designed for whittling (a medium or small knife). I think a hand axe and fine carving knife like a Mora would he the best combo to accomplish just about anything while still remaining portable so you can still carry it while hiking. What do you think?

***** "knives shouldn't be batoned with" Unless your knife is ground like an axe and weights like an axe, but in this case it'd also be blunt like an axe ;) "a hand axe" I guess you meant to say "hatchet". Hand axes were sharpened stones used by cavemen, they're called hand axes because they have no haft, I dislike hatchets for their short hafts and relatively low effectiveness. I'd rather use the same axe head on a longer haft. IMHO it'd be good to take example of your predecessors when setting up a kit for a given area. My country is woody with a temperate to cold climate. My ancestors carried small knives and one handed axes. Longer knives were historically reserved as backup weapons in my geographic area.

Actually, a hand axe is a small axe meant to be used with one hand. Technically, a hatchet has a hammer head on the back side. A hand axe, like a normal axe, has a broad flat area on the backside. However, the term "hatchet" has become the term used to describe any variety of small axe designed to be wielded with one hand excluding tomahawks. I see what you're saying though. I also happen to be from a rather temperate area being from upper New England. I also happen to prefer to carry a machete as opposed to a small axe a lot of times because I truly just believe that I can cut faster with the machete than with the axe. a machete is also generally a lot cheaper than an axe, but takes a bit of technique to wield properly before you can experience their true potential of just how efficient they can be. Machetes are also lighter than most small axes and can more easily be carried, whereas an axe can be rather inconvenient to carry on the person. Machetes can also accomplish more tasks than the average hatchet such as trail blazing, clearing paths & campsites, and makes a better defensive weapon against predatory animals and human threats than your average hatchet. That's JMHO though.

***** He explains how to fall larger trees with a knife in his book, and also in the Blades DVD I think. That's why he recommends that the knife have a strong pommel so you can pound on it with a baton or rock. Personally, I think if you were in a situation with just a knife that you'd be better off making stone tools rather than potentially breaking your primary blade. A stone axe should be able to take down a tree faster than baton and knife tip.

***** LOL Those two sentences are talking about two completely different ideas. Tell all those homeless people in the Cities across America that they 're not surviving in the city.There is water and food in the city. There's dirt and edible plants. Yes, most city folks will be out of luck, but not because the resources aren't; there, it'll be because they don't know how to render them.

***** LOL there's parks and rivers and creeks and trees and yes folks ARE planting on roof tops and have been raising rabbits and birds,etc for 200 yrs. Dandelions grow everywhere, Honey Suckle, kudzu, cattails, Blackberries, etc Squirrels , rats, birds rabbits, dogs,cats, etc., Muscovy Ducks are in about every city. Fish, Turtles, snakes, frogs, etc are in. Like I said the problem is folks won't know how to render it.

ScottsUtubeWorld You can always use a small knife to carve a pointed stick to use as a spear for defense, make it long enough and you can use it as a walking stick at the same time while having quick access to it if a situation would occur, or carve a club, or better yet, carve a bow and arrows. A small knife is a great tool to make bigger tools and weapons. You can also dig with a small knife (never dig with the knife itself), just carve yourself a digging stick with a chisel looking tip. etc. etc. All the above can easily even be done even with a folding knife (of better quality of course).

@@Butch_Deezlsteak This comment might be almost since he was alive, however I already knew, he didn't have ANY KZfaq channel. It's others that uploaded the videos, not Mors! That being said, I wasn't asking any creator, but you or anybody else for personal opinions! Eventually I got all this knives except the Fallkniven A1. The Terava is the only I didn't keep, it came with the worst heat treatment, I've ever seen. Chipped with any kind of edge, any kind of edge angle and no matter how much steel I removed, the edge still kept chipping like crazy, with normal light use...

@@Butch_Deezlsteak After my disappointment, I did a better research and found out, that once in a while, some of their knives, come with that very bad heat treatment. I remember even on their official page, I 'd read the same complaints. That means you're lucky! It still isn't (the 110) a better knife than the Bushcraft Black. No matter the heat treatment, I''d choose the Bushcraft Black over any other knife in it's category. Please, do you have the White River Ursus 45?

This guy has a very neutral and easy to understand accent. Just keep up learning English. If you can't understand this man, you don't know English at all.

Skookum is one word he used and is regional slang meaning "very good" Gnarly (pronounced Narley) in this case means "non standard" or "difficult to work with" Aside meaning he got distracted when he was demonstrating how to baton. Google translate will usually make no sense or will cause you to think the speaker means one thing when he really means something different.

Thanks 😂

I stick to the rule of the 5 ps. "Proper preparation prevents poor performance"!

Knowledge is more powerful than the tools you carry. " the more I know! The more I realise we all know very little " and we still keep learning till we die xpeacex

Yeh I get that a lot I studied jeet kune do most of my life and studied philosophy and watch and read a lot also spent a lot of time in military then backpacking around Europe etc so I guess I picked up a bit on my travels also I studied logic. But mainly as the years have gone by I have been a world student of observation lol 😁 plus you tube helps alot xpeacex

Everyone to their own.

Just read your comment. Think you will appreciate this comment from the SAS legend 'Lofty' Wiseman. When asked , "what is the best survival knife"? His reply . . ." the one you have with you" ! Stay safe in these covid-19 times.

+James Ritchie I would tend to agree with you. I prefer to carry a smaller knife and a suitably sized axe into the bush especially when I'm out for extended periods of time. If I'm out for an afternoon or overnight I sometimes just bring a knife and folding saw. It is definitely good to learn how to use a knife in the place of an axe though, and how to do it with minimal stress on your knife. When it comes down to it if I had to choose one tool, it would always be an axe.

+James Ritchie Forest axe part of your EDC is it James? I didn't think so... Mors is clearly talking about a one knife only situation and is one of the very few people on KZfaq who have ever shown the correct technique for making wooden wedges instead of mindlessly batoning a large log with a knife.

Typical keyboard warrior

James RIchie "lazt or so weak"? "stay home"? James Richie I wonder if you understand what the underlaying idea here is. Are you a lazy person not caring to watch the video or read the title (notice "Survival" in the video title and "survival situation" mentioned in the video)? Are you yet another ignorant person that simply refuse to accept that an unplanned, less ideal situation, may occur to you? That bad things outside of your control may happen? That you may end up loosing a tool you actually brought? That you may be forced to make do with what you have at hand even if it is less ideal? As it seems you seem totally unware of the background and skill set of the person in the video here. Calling him a "pretender" just shows your total laziness and ignorance of concepts outside of your own sand box. Shame on you. When seasoned outdoors persons and professional instructors in their talk mention "undestructable" tool or "unbreakable", they mean it in the context at hand and not litterary. They know very well that any knife may break. As I see it, what they mean is that you made improve your odds by preparing, train, bringing equipment (will, skill, understanding and gear) with certain properties. Any knife or cutting edge is better than nothing, but including a robust knife with certain properties may increase your odds. Knowing how to use it in varied ways and knowing materials increase the odds. Increasing the odds make sense when it comes to survival situations. What you going to do if you lost other gear and just happening to have that knife attached to you and the situation demands something that must be done but the knife may be less ideal for? Melt like a snow flake in the sun? Cry for mum? Wait for "others" to find you and sort out your situation? These people and what they train doesn't "depend" on the knife! They don't plan to improvise and they don't look down on varied tools and skill of using varied tools (or no tools) and they don't lack experience and understanding of each tool, how to make them, find them and maintain them. You make it sound that you are unable to make mistakes, that getting into and unplanned survival situation with less ideal parameters is simply impossible to happen you and that you will always have everything you wished for or brought at the start. Total reality check fail.