This reminds me of a story I once heard about a man stuck out at sea. A boat came by and asked if he needed help and he said “no thank you god will save me.” And the boat passed. Another boat comes asks of he needs help and he has the same response. A third boat comes by his response is unchanging. Eventually the man drowns and dies and when gets to heaven he asks God “why didn’t you save me?” And God says “I sent you three boats.” God wants us to have faith but he also gave us brains with which to think and reason and choose what is best for us. Refusing the miracles of modern medicine is not an act of faith it is deliberately letting yourself drown.

I find it sad how obsessed they are with having more children that they aren’t prioritizing the ones they already have.

Just like the Duggars, she didn’t list any scriptures. Just these weird controlling ideas that benefit her husband. Her saying sin doesn’t mean it’s just what works for her, it’s saying anyone that doesn’t follow it is sinning. Makes my skin crawl!

It always starts out as "this is for me, not you", and turns into "actually, everyone should do things my way". 🥴

LMAO not him trying to get her to stop talking about the fact that he lied about a vasectomy on camera… This man knows exactly what he did and knows the Internet would roast him for it. I can’t imagine dealing with the kind of betrayal that would be

Thank you for recognizing the problem of parentification in big families. It causes psychological damage that goes beyond "not having a childhood". It means you lose the opportunity to develop your own identity as a person!

I believe whole heartedly that if biological men gave birth there would be no large families. That’s just my opinion though.

I come from a huge family similar to this. I spent my entire childhood taking care of my siblings. Now I don’t even know who I am without constantly taking care of someone.

Lying about getting a vasectomy is 100% abuse lmao Also for him to say I’ll have as many kids as God allows as if he has to go through pregnancy or birth 🙄

How manipulative. Telling your spouse, when faced with the potential that another pregnancy could kill her, that 'I am not going to sin, you have to take responsibility, but you need to know that I will see you as a sinner for protecting me'

Either he lied about a vasectomy or their communication is horrendous. Stealthing your partner is a disgusting abuse of trust, and if that's not what happened, then their marriage is a mess communication wise.

gross that he would lie to her about a vasectomy. I would have divorced him SO fast. Also, the argument about trusting God to give you right amount of kids has always seemed deluded to me. God gave us scientists who created birth control, and gave me the sense to use it.

I had a coworker whose husband was pressuring her to have more kids. She had had a dangerous and complicated pregnancy and he was still pushing her. She got pregnant again and her and the baby passed away. That was heartbreaking to get that news. I still have her number in my phone

29:02 Doctor: hey if you keep doing this you will potentially die Her: continues to do it and almost died and then questions why that happened to her I’m sorry. You almost died, experienced massive trauma because your body can literally never heal or return to a state of normalcy between pregnancies. That is so sad and heartbreaking. God created doctors too for a reason and maybe was saying through all those appointments “hey get the hint”

Watching them interact I cannot imagine that they even.. like.. each other?

So she asked him to read the book before making a decision and said it was important to her that he do so. He proceeded to read one paragraph and then didn’t read it at all, made the decision without her and without doing the one thing she asked, and then lied about it. Wtf? That’s so disrespectful of her feelings.

Somebody tell Karissa that things aren’t automatically sinful just because she disagrees with it. Lol

I’m about to be super religious just so I don’t have to rationalize or think about anything. I’ll just hear gods voice saying what I want to hear. Who cares about the health of my spouse or finances or children’s futures. No question about what’s the right choice for my family. And looking down on people who have to make tough decisions. Hallelujah!

Not having enough quiet time is my nightmare. I have three siblings and our house felt like there was constant noise and it was exhausting 😕

So do these people also abstain from all medical intervention because they trust God’s will? Did she not take prenatal vitamins? Do they not wear seatbelts? Do they not lock their doors at night? I’m curious where they draw the line when it comes to taking actions that affect their health and safety.

"thanks for not being forceful" *forces her to have kids by lying to her*

I...there are no words. How did she go from not really wanting kids, to insisting on having so many to point of risking her life? Something just feels so wrong here. I'm trying not to be judgmental, but it's really difficult when they just seem so unconcerned about what having ten kids is doing to them physically, emotionally, financially, and are cavalier about being able to adequately and intimately parent that many children. I don't know why they think they're trusting God with this. Did He not bless us with common sense? Everything about this just seems so selfish to me.

It's so suspicious that he claims money was coming in even though he was unemployed. He just stopped planning, budgeting and thinking about it? How? What if he chose to get a big loan and just scrapped all his budgeting so that Karissa wouldn't find out? It wouldn't be the only significant thing he's lied about.

How often do these kids interact with other children outside the home? Home school, home church, home sports coaching???

It makes me so fucking angry she is putting herself at risk and putting her children in the place to not have a mother

I’m only 20 minutes in but worries me most about this is that there isn’t enough healing between pregnancies if you’re having a kid almost every year. This leaves her so much more susceptible to long term health complications, especially when she was already having problems early on, that her husband would never understand because he doesn’t have to go through any of that. Her husband making this decision while it’s physically impacting Karissa and him LYING to her about the vasectomy is not only insensitive but also abusive in my opinion

I have to dip out half way through. I lost my mother to MS complications. Those kids you’re bringing into this world deserve their mother! Heck, I am old and I still need mine! Very selfish of her husband (imo). See y’all on the next one ♥️

Do these people wear seatbelts? Do they go to a doctor? Do they have jobs? Why do all that stuff when clearly you don’t trust god to keep you safe, healthy and provided for 🙄 the mental gymnastics here are crazy

I couldn’t imagine being forced to have sex because it’s gods will

My win for the week is that we finally got our health insurance in order which couldn’t have come any sooner considering I’m 37 weeks pregnant with our second child. Also, I cannot imagine having so many children especially as someone who has high risk pregnancies. It jeopardizes my health and I have to be extremely careful to keep my babies healthy during my pregnancies. I also think that it is selfish to have so many children when their older children will have to be parentified in order to make sure that the younger ones are taken care of.

win for the week: was presented with the opportunity to be a full time nanny for a family i’ve known for 5 years and adore. i took it and i start in two weeks, so excited!

If he is hearing voices from God, 20 mg of Zyprexa should help with that auditory hallucination.

My win is that I learned how to drive a mail truck and finished my training on Friday! I only have one more week of academy before I start working as a mail carrier 😊😊😊

I simply do not want kids! For me there's there's many reasons, but one of them is me not wanting to pass my health issues onto another person. I'm not super religious anymore but I feel like not causing another person to suffer like me is more godly than having a kid because I'm "supposed to". I also need birth control to help with said health problems; it's medical! I love kids, but they just are not in my life path and that's okay! I don't want to experience pregnancy and I want to live my life the way that is right for me. I wish these kind of people would understand that.

I'm glad for them and their family that their beliefs are sustainable and that due to his career and their network they can remain comfortable and keep having kids, but the insistence that this is the correct way of life will have dire consequences on a lot of families without the same monetary privilege.

So glad they can be so confident of the revelation God has given them. Incidentally, God gave me an equally convincing revelation that children are not for me and I am exempt from the Collins Way of Being a Faithful Christian.

My win for the week is, my daughter's boyfriend came over to ask my husband for her hand in marriage!

I had severe preeclampsia with my last two (out of four) children. The maternal fetal medicine specialist told my husband that I would likely have a stroke or die if I got pregnant again. So he had a vasectomy that he scheduled the day our son left the NICU.

22:35 I really don't like how he said God told him he would take care of his wife's health IF she stays connected to God. So is Mandrae gonna blame his wife if she has more health issues? Will it her fault for not being connected enough to God?? Really gross.

Being pregnant for the first time with my first child (and my symptoms being very delibitating at times), I'm increasingly impressed/shocked at how some people are willing to be pregnant so many times. ZERO JUGEMENT HERE, I'm just like: "How do you do it?!?!?" 😂😧

I’m very into fundie Fridays and watching things about fundamentalism….I just found this chick on Reddit and I was MORTIFIED. Thank you for this video, you’ve got a new subscriber!💕❤️💕

She said she hasn’t been allowed to make money on social media bc she’s not verified… that’s got to be a lie ( maybe a form of false Christian persecution?)

I think that this is a great conversation to have that a lot of parents and potential parents don't realize. Time, attention, support, and love is so crucial for each one of your kids to have in their early developmental years and if a child does not have enough of this in their early years, it can impact them lifelong. Also yes, it sickens me when parents let the older siblings take on the parent role, which results in them losing their crucial childhood. I don't come from a big family but I come from a lower income family. Both my parents had to spend their time slaving away to make ends meet (understandable), which resulted in us becoming neglected and not receiving a lot of attention and support that we needed plus they were already really strict parents so I personally also felt unloved and like a burden. This also resulted in my older siblings taking care of me and my older sister taking the overall parent role. She expressed to me many times once we were older how she felt exhausted and that there was too much pressure on her shoulders and that she couldn't finish out her childhood. It broke my heart to hear that but at the same time, I really appreciated what she's done for me, growing up. This is why it's an issue for having so many students within 1 class with 1 teacher because not every student gets the help and attention that they need. This also resulted in kids who are special needs that don't know that they are special needs in being neglected and called "dumb" or "lazy" just for them being themselves. I'm speaking from experience and didn't realize that part of myself until I got older

The mental hoops these people have to jump through... I'm exhausted just listening to them. I can't imagine actually living it.

Fruitful wombs 🤮 Also, sitting next to your children durning church or bouncing back and forth between them to help them with schooling isn’t quality time. It’s just being in the same space together. No offense on the church part. But I don’t think watching Netflix with someone is quality time either. But anyway, win of the week. I was offered a new job today and I took it! 🎉

Watching this. He groomed and preyed on his wife . In the beginning he said he met her at a club and pursued her very fast. Aka narcissist love bombing. He is an emotional abuser. Praying she gets released. The look I see in her eyes is similar to the abuse I’ve seen my mom encounter from my step father since my childhood. Mandrakes body language is off as well.

My biggest confusion about people who (like this family) focus so literally and fully on a specific line of the bible is that they are not following all the other parts. Why is "be fruitful and multiply" the thing that is important, but not laws against wearing different fabrics, working on Sunday, following specific dietary restrictions, forgiving debt, taking care of the poor and imprisoned, loving each other, or treating your slaves in specific ways? There are nearly a million words in the bible - why are those four words not only the ones that are most important but that are so important that these families keep going when they know it has a higher chance of ending in the death of one of the parents?

Thank you B for coming to these videos doing your best to not judge another's choices. The ironic thing about those in deeply fundamental/evangelical circles is the mockery of non-judgment that the "world" has, while they can't tolerate anyone judging their own judginess. I come from an evangelical background myself, and have always felt torn. I love Jesus very much, but I never felt close to him the way I thought I should. Only lately has that happened in spite of my upbringing, not because of it. Many in this certain culture have elevated Marriage and Babies (and what happens between the two) as almost bizarre idols. We will allow (and even encourage) a spouse to stay in abusive relationships because "Marriage". We keep having children (while refusing to prevent it) because "Babies". Not that God doesn't value those things, but when protecting the institution becomes more vital than protecting a spouse's safety, or protecting a child's need for an available, attached, and attuned parent, we've lost the whole point. And I think that's something very insidious that I didn't catch until I was an adult: the god that is sometimes preached about is not an attached, attuned, or safe Being. So it follows that attachment and relational safety isn't a priority in relationships in that world. I went through two psychiatric hospitalizations and easily could have had more. I only have one child. I can't imagine what would have happened if I'd said "let's leave it up to God". I'm not sure I'd be alive. I've only just begun to reattach to my precious child who had to live through a mom who wasn't emotionally available consistently. I heard someone once say God gave humanity the job of subduing the earth, which means managing resources. It would be ridiculous to not manage land or animals well because "God will provide". In the Bible he literally gave us that job. It's ok to "manage the resource" of having children (pardon if that sounds crude).

Two houses and two cars? Privilege. Something so very many people do not have regardless of the amount of faith they have in Christ. In my opinion, there's very real danger in what I hear so many "christian influencers" espousing on social media. To feed the hungry is a great and grave responsibility, not to be taken lightly or served up haphazardly or with pride. Most influencers I've listened to appear to subscribe to a belief in Biblical inerrancy, but define chapter and verse through the lens of their own opinions. If the water we offer is poluted and the food spoiled, how have we helped the thirsty and hungry among us? And what will we say as we each stand before God in the last day?

I think that these people forget that God can work through doctors, and having children even though it's a good thing can be an idol.

_I am a Christian and I'm not a mother_ In my personal opinion it sounds like a great way for the devil to guarantee death, family disfunction and poverty for a lot of families. She almost K.O. trying to have kids. If she passed away would that have been a win for God? Why is the near death experience not a sign from God? It's giving greedy and selfish on both their ends.

At the vasectomy part of their story. Huuuuum WTF.

I don’t understand how trusting god with children is to not have any form of birth control, but trusting god in finances isn’t about not having any financial control, they have jobs, savings, etc

Also, this viewpoint debases women to just being forced incubators.

This is so disturbing.

Oof, these two sure have a lot of dysfunction in this story that they’re dressing up as God’s plan.

I always thought it’s very interesting some people have such an extreme view on birth control, saying leave it up to god & any sort of birth control method is “going against god.” They only apply that to pregnancy & nothing else though. Why not leave everything up to god then? Why wear a seatbelt ever or take any sort of medications or chemotherapy or any kind of safety precaution. Why are those things not against god’s will, but birth control or “pulling out” is?

This is such a reckless viewpoint. Having a bunch of kids that aren’t wanted and people can’t afford, and doesn’t have time it capability to raise well will lead to a lot of dysfunctional people. And more overpopulation, homelessness etc.

As south asian both my parents had large families mother has 4 other siblings while father has 5 other siblings. My mother's oldest sister was never went to school to take care of siblings. My grandmother is so evil to do that to her. When she left after marriage at 19 second sister took the role. My father's family has not done things that extremely still My father's sister was parentified to extent and my father who got government job was expected to fund everything to his family money wise. His mother never expected him to marry and his own kids but be single to fund money forever. And in both families I'm not sure parents did bare minimum for atleast one kid 😅. They very happy go lucky parents. Also at the time birth control is simply available so maybe they didn't even want the kids. So willfully ignoring birth control is so freaking stupid it just not affect them it affects kids directly and society too

Funny how people like that tend to judge others but are the same who neglect their kids and massively sin themselves. Everything Karissa says has nothing to do with Religion. 💀

I am always so curious what Christians say when asked how they went about populating they earth when everyone was related……..

Girl you have to follow up on this chick! She is in hot water covering up SA of a child.

28:30 yes!! My older sister was totally parentified, I remember her putting a pizza in the oven for us younger kids as she was a young kid herself.

They make the big deal about trusting God for family size, despite the additional dangers. Yet can't trust God to protect these children in regular school, so have to home school to personally protect them (this version of home schooling to avoid mixing with outsiders leaves young adults without the social comprehension to cope with the wider world). I find the combination of home church as well as home school ringing alarm bells. Does it show that they are not willing to explore Biblical matters with other believers but see themselves as the only interpretation they will accept? So he stopped looking at the figures, and decided that coping was God's provision? Could it be due to her carefully budgetting over every meal? Or relying on gifts from wider family and friends?

SO glad you are addressing this B! 🤍

Wow. You handled that really well. I really wanted to say so many things and each time you stopped and said something similar to what I was thinking. For example, the reason things have gotten easier for them is they are using their older children as help mates and buddies. I don't like that she has so many health problems. I dont want to be disrespectful however, there is so much he said that was sooff-putting and just plain wrong. I have studied the quiverful religion and they are major doctrinal issues. Yes please keep talking about them. I could listen to this for days and wish I could be heard I love to sit around and discuss this kind of stuff. Again great job. 🎉

This is my first time on the channel, I love how chilled and yet clear and concise you are. Keep doing your thing😊👍🏽🙏🏽 Love from South Africa

To get to the point where you ignore medical advice and there's a significant likelihood that you could die just because you're mad with God - do you actually care about the living, breathing children you already have?

My win: I found out this morning that my application for my associate social worker license was approved! I'm in the process of getting a bereavement counselor job and was waiting on my license to go through, so now I should hopefully be starting this new job in May (:

You made a great point. Regardless of agreeing with the idea of family planning, there does need to Be an emphasis on taking care of the children you do have. To me It seems they are more concerned about continually reproducing, than being satisfied with each child and the life they have. Idk I could never have more than maybe 3 children so It just seems like such a massive physical, spiritual, emotional, and financial undertaking they are going through all through the guise of their beliefs

The way he literally never thanks or acknowledges his wife is just beyond disrespectful… these kids are gonna have some healing to do after dealing with this nightmare father

Wow! I HOPE the best for their children, but that's a very irresponsible stance. If he wants to be transparent about their birth control (or lack thereof), then I think they should be transparent about where that money is coming from that keeps their children fed. Money comes from people, not directly from God. So it's not a mystery. Other households are financing their household, which means that in the big picture, EVERYONE could not afford to "trust god with their family size". If they did so, whose household would support all of them? In addition, they didn't "trust God" to let her die or to miraculously give her the D&C that she desperately needed to save her life. They sought medical attention, but have continued to ignore all medical advice. I can't even!

Thanks for this video. I recently heard about this family but knew nothing behind the constant smiles on instagram.

Thank you for covering this

Thank you you remind me that there are Christians that are not so extreme in America. Thats you B the sane one, nice to hear.

Win for the week: my Soroptimist club had its first love Dream It Be It, for high schools girls. Went great! Please cover this couple more. Few do videos, usually only on reddit

I couldn’t think of a more sure sign that God is telling me to stop having kids than me almost DYING!!!! Like this almost feels like a breeding/pregnant kink than truly doing what god wants. How gave you a sign and you ignored it.

It's great that this works for them but not every family have the able to be so careless. I have two siblings, I'm the youngest. My parents didn't use birth control at the beginning of their marriage and quickly had 3 kid close in age. We struggled. Sometimes we didn't have food. My parents were stress and sometimes couldn't pay our bills in order to get food on the table. We when to school at the age of 3 so we could get free food. Both my parents are fixed because they couldnt provid for the 3 they had. This come off tone deaf.

Just wanna say it's not birth control or bust... I am so sick of people (especially judgmental Christians) having this attitude. There are other methods for preventing pregnancy that do not involve any medication or medical procedures, natural family planning works great if done correctly and carefully. I hate how she perpetuates the idea that birth control is sin and therefore she just had to keep getting pregnant. It's not a sin, and even if it was it's not the only option. She is being willfully ignorant, a basic search before my wedding taught me that there are lots of other methods to prevent pregnancy. OK, getting off my soapbox now.

I feel like they assigned a meaning to their lack of communication to almost… justify the lie about the vasectomy. I don’t really like anything I heard here. Made me feel icky.

I'm only halfway through but this part about certain Christians confuse me... She says it's God's will if she gets pregnant or not and that it's wrong to prevent them. Yet she went to the hospital to get medical treatment? Wouldn't that mean she was going against God's will?

It's funny. He had said at 37:00 that they make time for one on one time with each individual kid, but then all the examples that she gave at 41:00 were all group settings and not one on one time. Just saying ...

God gives us a brain, education and free will so we can make decisions. These people are scary.

26:06 - I'm sorry, but this guy (husband) is absolutely disgusting and he didn't LOVE her wife at all! His not taking her feelings into consideration (like lie about vasectomy and not helping much at home), his not caring enough about her risking her life because of childbirth! I'm shocked. It's just my personal opinion, but this kind of behavior is not about believe in god or not - this man just disgusting, irresponsible and selfish person! And she's needs psychological help.

Wonder who was watching their kids while they were making this video.

This woman is a victim, he maybe too but she is not going to live a long life. The damage she has already done is likely to cause an early death. I seriously suspect he could have a learning disability, to avoid the book with such fear. God dies not micro manage he guides and supports you through. These people are not healthy.

I respect her choice in life but I’m not sure how great of a parent you can be with 10 kids? Their relationship lacks communication skill and shows a tiny bit of spousal abu$3 constantly wanting your wife to have more kids when he sees her having very rough pregnancies

I love karissa I also am a mom to 8 children I truly believe life is a blessing my issue with karissa is that she seems to teach women in an aggressive judgemental way at times that to ke is concerning we shpuld never push things on ppl I wish she showed more in a quiet meek spirit n not come of that way you said this is right this is wrong n more ❤

Birth control is an act of worship in my eyes, for my situation. My parents were emotionally neglectful because they spent every moment working to give the bare necessities for kids they didn't plan for (or want). We didn't have resources for diagnoses and all my siblings and parents struggle with depression, largely stemming from problems that money could fix. I don't want the same thing for kids I have. I want the resources, knowledge, and healing to give them a better life than I have had, because they will be God's children and deserve to have a parent who can actually demonstrate God's emotional love to them, instead of feeling they are a burden for existing or don't matter at all. Proverbs 24:3-7 and other verses discuss planning for the future and being wise. It is NOT wise for everyone in every situation to constantly be pumping out kids. The people I know who do that are all the types to post about how amazing their life is online, and then in person they are whining about every aspect of their life, so it's hard to trust that their viewpoint as it is often disingenuous. Having kids is a huge responsibility, parenting shouldn't be outsourced to older kids either. EDIT: also I believe in an all-powerful God. people get pregnant on birth control all the time. If it is His will, no way a rubber is gonna prevent that 😂

Definitely interested in more Collins content

I hope everybody had some wins this week, no matter how small it was. Good for you 🙏❤️

They need to communicate more!! They don’t remember very much about their past.

I really like this "win for the week" thing! ☺️ Thank you for sharing, Haney!) And everyone who doing it in comment section! 🤗

These two seem so perpetually pissed off at each other it's driving me insane. I feel legitimately sorry for the kids who have to grow up with parents who always seem to radiate this kind of resentment for each other.

As for the 796,000 Instagram followers and only 5,000 on KZfaq : she most likely bought followers on IG. It’s something alot of influencers do . Another way that you can tell that she most likely bought her IG followers is the number of likes on her posts are way too low for the amount that you see following her. I looked at her page and she only has about 7,000 likes on average for each post . If the 796,000 IG followers were real people then she would have a lot more likes but they are just bots so they can’t contribute to the likes . Hope this made sense 😅

My win was last Friday. I’m about to be 18 and my best friend who is 20 and i teach him different subjects is blind and I went over to his grandparents house by myself for the first time without my grandmother being there. I have been falling in love with him and I want to be his caregiver one day because he has given me a reason to live after everything I have been through. I’m going to write his mom and dad a letter about my desire to help him and take care of him. My best friend and his family loves me so much. I’m homeschooled and I get to see him four days a week for a couple of hours. The only problem I have is my parents reaction to me being in love with him considering it would be so unlikely for anyone his age to fall for him and they might think it’s weird and they are special education teachers so they know how rare that is to see someone who is not disabled to fall for someone who is and want to take care of them.

She’s also almost killed her dog before she had kids. Left for a two week vacation left the dog with a pile of wet food for TWO WEEKS. Came back decided not to care about the food with maggots, mold, and rotting pieces and put more wet food on top of it. When the dog got sick she decided the best course of action was to try and feed it treats and force it on a walk. Never not once went to the vet

He’s a narcissist. Controlling, and manipulative.

If God is all knowing and all powerful then how could fallible humans "prevent God's will"? This situation is about the husband's desire for control IMO.

It’s interesting how we are now seeing some of the Duggar children come forward with how broken their family really was. I’m curious in 10 years or so to see how their children are going to be. I obviously don’t want anything bad to happen to them, but you have to wonder how much a parent can really be in a child’s life when they are juggling 10 kids (and who knows how many more will come for this family). In the past, when we didn’t have modern medicine, think of how many children didn’t live very long lives because of illness, famine, or what not, we live in a very different world now. I definitely believe that we are blessed to live in a time with modern science (which is of course a total gift from God) and it’s honestly probably more of a sin to just ignore it. Anyways, I hope I’m wrong about this family, but I’m worried for their kids and if they really are getting all their needs met.