Karpov v Kasparov: The Soviet Chess Rivalry Of The USSR | Two Kings For A Crown

Karpov v Kasparov: The Soviet Chess Rivalry Of The USSR | Two Kings For A Crown | Timeline

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2 жыл бұрын

Interwoven portraits of Anatoly Karpov and Garry Kasparov, whose 25-year bitter rivalry accompanied the fall of the USSR. The story of a duel between two chess giants, fighting a personal war in a world gone to ruin. This battle of black and white was more than a face-off over a chessboard. Part psychological drama, part political thriller, the film brings to life their hostilities, nested like Russian dolls. Karpov vs. Kasparov represents the battle between the faltering empire and the young liberals several steps ahead of the game, checkmating the old guard. Or how two stories - the societal one and the personal one - started out separately and ended up superimposed, twining together into one tale.
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@mattkim96 2 жыл бұрын

I just realized this is the first time I’ve heard Kasparov speaking Russian instead of English. And it’s still voiced over back into english haha.

@emanuelovici2176 2 жыл бұрын

It's a stylistic choice and a best one at that! It really brings the Russian into a documentary about the battle of 2 russian chess titans. I really like that!

@mel124177 2 жыл бұрын

The greatest chess rivalry of all time, bar none! Me and my uncle (who taught me chess) used to follow their every match, and the world seemed to stand still then when these two titans of chess battled it out. Karpov's positional cold calculating play vs. Kasparov's tactical enterprising brilliance! All set in the backdrop of a tumultuous time of Soviet and world history. There had never been a rivalry like that in the annals of the Royal Game...

@Doug19752533 8 ай бұрын

would have been fascinating to see Fischer play either or both

@jimmytwotimes802 7 ай бұрын

They were definitely the best of their time.

@DC-zi6se 17 күн бұрын

@@Doug19752533 He'd lose. Badly.

@MladenPostruznik 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Garry Kasparov is a citizen of Croatia since 2014. He keeps his residence in Podstrana near Split.

@brane4175 Жыл бұрын

Ocete ga staviti an evro?

@chessoptics Жыл бұрын

Then why does he line in New York lol

@mikestock969 Жыл бұрын

Garry Kasparov, & Karpov are like the black belt of martial arts...only in chess. These two are 2 of the most gifted players of their time.

@laughmouth Жыл бұрын

I like to compare them to Ronaldo and Messi

@user-so8kx7uj2x Жыл бұрын

@@laughmouth indeed ! It's the most incredible era ! With the greatest longevity!

@stephanebelizaire3627 Жыл бұрын

Indeed !

@mattkim96 8 ай бұрын

There’s an equally well-known title that literally originates from chess. They’re the “grandmasters” of chess…cause they were chess grandmasters haha

@80sHairMetalFan 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much @Timeline for posting these docs. I'm really enjoying them all.

@eriktempelman2097 2 жыл бұрын

After winning by default, Karpov went all-out in the international grand master tournament world. He proved his might incredibly well there. A true champion. Kasparov? He was EVEN better.

@ryomanisha8208 Жыл бұрын

kasparov was better than karpov

@Bob31415 Жыл бұрын

@@ryomanisha8208 Isn't that what he said?

@Grandcapi 6 ай бұрын

He had a record of winning tournaments. He had to prove he was the best.

@fischerfanx Ай бұрын

@@ryomanisha8208 Not necessarily. Their previous match was 5-3 to Karpov and Karpov just needed another win to officially defeat Kasparov. FIDE ended the tournament even though both players said they wanted to continue playing because it had passed six months since the beginning of the match, so Karpov was kind of "cheated" there. He might have lost against Kasparov later, but was just one win from defeating him in the previous match.

@filipefernandes8669 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for solving the sound issues.

@ashleelarsen5002 2 жыл бұрын

Oh 😊

@ronkolek613 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone want to talk about the irony of the head of the Soviet Union telling Karpov to hold onto his crown?

@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the sound has been fixed !! Love this doc thanks very much!

@TheSavagederek Жыл бұрын

I was 10 in 84 and obviously 11 in 85 lol. Kasparov was WC as I grew up and I still remember watching intensely his match against Nigel Short. He was an incredible player. I have always said that his match against Deep Blue was flawed, as it had all his history and every opening and closing strategy he had ever played, yet he wasn't allowed access to Deep Blues previous games. Although Magnus has been a great champion and the longest since Garry, I can't see another dominant force in the near future, as there are many superb players around, and Magnus beats them often. Garry will always be my favourite player, due to his aggression on the board, and Karpov for his patient building and slow strangling moves

@slava9734 2 жыл бұрын

when karpov send that chess magazine to kasparov while kasparov was in prison shows you all you need to know about his charakter. a great man!

@TheRdg24 2 жыл бұрын

A great man who stands in silence and still supports putin according to many... Yeah "great"

@ChessPro-fe7ku 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRdg24 Putin is defending Russia from NATO's aggressive (and violent - as in Ukraine with a color revolution and subsequent killings of Russians living there) expansion, putting missiles on their borders, practically. And what about all the American bio labs inside Ukraine that Russian forces are targeting and destroying? Before, it was oligarchs trying to plunder Russia until Putin put a stop to them. Now, it's basically about trying to sink in the knife into Russia. Funny how covid disappereared and now it's on to the next big lie... Oh yeah, Putin is the bad guy. Keep believing the western MSM. It's says all the general stupidity level :)

@lazarsudzum4256 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRdg24 Is it crime to support Putin? Is it even crime to support anyone who the western countries, leaded by America, dont support? Above 80% of Russians support Putin. Are they are criminals?

@TheRdg24 2 жыл бұрын

@@lazarsudzum4256 nah, no crime. Just a shity human being in my eyes as you support a person who kills thousands of prople daily and oppresses anyone who stands against him

@armingleiner5292 2 жыл бұрын

Great man who sits in parliament and votes in favor of the invasion... The guy deserves jail!

@panagiotischagias4119 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I was searching for a documentary on this chess rivalry.

@fernandoguzmanmelara7394 Жыл бұрын

How does this not have many views? This is so good

@phil4863 Жыл бұрын

The bobby fischer story is more attracting i guess

@Davivd2 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for fixing the audio. Now it's watchable. :-)

@Cinderella227 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you I really enjoyed viewing.

@bleta1594 2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated the fact that our appeal is listened, the sound is great and now we can enjoy this documentary. Nicely done

@ewallt 2 жыл бұрын

I watched the last game of the 1st rematch in 1985 at the Manhattan Chess Club at Carnegie Hall.

@basicforge 2 жыл бұрын

You fixed the audio mix! Thank you!

@burimsaliji23 2 жыл бұрын

This was great,thank you 😃

@westsidebilling 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Thanks for posting this.

@scienceandmatter8739 2 жыл бұрын

THANKS FOR THIS . I really Hope mucu sucess to your platform cause NATIONS at war and Things Like this are quality content ive didnt Seen for DECADES really. This IS really great

@shadow7037932 2 жыл бұрын

Much better than the previous audio!

@friendo760 2 жыл бұрын

Bravo…nicely corrected audio. Great chess documentary you have provided and will perhaps inspire someone somewhere.

@ashvalkyriee 2 жыл бұрын

wouldnt be a proper kasparov documentary without him patting himself on the back about how much of a rebel he was

@davidcopson5800 2 жыл бұрын

And he is right to be a rebel. He could always see what Putin was about.

@syourke3 Жыл бұрын

Kasparov is politically naive. He believed in Reagan and Thatcher? 😮They wrecked the economy of the USA and Britain and ushered in 40 years of neo- liberalism.

@Tunz909 2 жыл бұрын

Got to attend one of their games in the 1990 Match in Times Square New York. I have the ticket stub somewhere, believe it was game 7. First and only time I've witnessed a World Chess Championship Game LIVE!:-)

@Tudestube 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for fixing the audio!

@WeCube1898 Жыл бұрын

Kasparov and Fischer have traits in common.

@cheesetoochalk 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent.

@richinyv1 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the fix on the audio.

@shauntaylor6040 2 жыл бұрын

Soviet Chess Federation said to Kasparov, we have a World Champion we don't need another one.

@rodrigosalvadorcruz40 2 жыл бұрын

They knew he was a traitor to the nation which make him to be a World champion.

@stephanebelizaire3627 Жыл бұрын

Bravo and Cheers for all the GM !

@randylahey1822 Жыл бұрын

Respect to both of them!

@Ottorockz 2 жыл бұрын

Kasparov is actually a really kewl dude. Given his age etc...he is still highly relevant. His books are a legitmate authority in the world of chess.

@kevinmurphy4595 2 жыл бұрын

Given his age?!.....REALLY ?!.....ok....

@Ottorockz 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmurphy4595 yes...

@vikingkrigare5329 2 жыл бұрын

"kewl"? 😆

@Sandel99456 2 жыл бұрын

this is funny because his books are not very good for most

@jogzyg2036 2 жыл бұрын

His books on chess games are good in terms of analysis, but his book on chess history is highly criticised for inaccuracies and a lack of cited sources.

@speeden7553 Жыл бұрын

Chess is like war, it never ends.

@SeddincY Жыл бұрын

Crazy how a "board game" can give all this political/historical drama and significance

@BrianJosephMorgan 2 жыл бұрын

Magnifique!

@fantasticfamily5004 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent

@zyambocomfort3020 Жыл бұрын

Kasparov looks like a villain in a movie.

@StopFear 2 жыл бұрын

I am so amazed how Karpov even today in age has such high sharp eyebrows. Many people try to have high eyebrows and cannot get that.

@davidcopson5800 2 жыл бұрын

Something of a bizarre comment. It certainly raised my eyebrows.

@Red4350 Жыл бұрын

lol idk why, since im Russian but not super into chess , my fav comment so far lol

@ewallt 2 жыл бұрын

“It was Kasparov who wanted to stop the match. He was scared.” Yeah, right, after winning two games he was scared. (KK match 1, after score became 5-3.)

@Sandel99456 2 жыл бұрын

actually most sources say that

@raygordonteacheschess5501 2 жыл бұрын

I was there. Karpov was dead on his feet and everyone knew it. The title changed hands the day they cancelled the match and everyone knew it. Kasparov was up 3-0 in the "new match" and proved he could draw at will.

@StopFear 2 жыл бұрын

I speak Russian and I hear what the Russian Nikitin says in Russian. But the narrator isn’t translating it correctly. Like he says when describing discovery of Kasparov “he was 10 years old”. But Nikitin says “he was 14 years old in Russian.

@barrydysert2974 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. The numbers didn't add up. i like your screen name 🆙

@Malikin 2 жыл бұрын

simplification

@Q_QQ_Q 2 жыл бұрын

yes

@MaximGhost 2 жыл бұрын

@@Malikin Yes, simplification for us simple westerners

@RicardoAGuitar 2 жыл бұрын

The translation is very substandard. Games are called matches, the match is called a game, draws are called ties... Plus, there is a pro-Kasparov slant throughout. Now, I'm a Kasparov fan (more than Karpov, anyway), but this doc shouldn't be taking sides

@robfish333 7 ай бұрын

I wish there was a documentary like this about Tal

@manoahkarara5289 7 ай бұрын

Same

@petrosmpampalis6097 2 ай бұрын

Two very big players. But i think Bobby, was THE KING!💖

@MEME-qe4ze 2 жыл бұрын

anyone that can dethrone karpov is practically invincible!

@northshores7319 2 жыл бұрын

If Kasparov was wronged in the ending of the first match then why was Karpov's two point lead dissolved?? The second match should have started with Karpov having a two point lead as his wins were legally won. Nobody ever says anything about that. It makes Kasparov's claim that the Soviet Politicians were against him seem quite unbelieveable.

@oktayyilmaz5134 2 жыл бұрын

well said..

@monodriver001 8 ай бұрын

Such a dumb claim you have

@anthonycraig1258 2 жыл бұрын

I would like a video of this quality about Sedol vs Alphago.

@zichenbai485 2 жыл бұрын

You are in luck kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jb6lfpmYytG5YY0.html

@gmshadowtraders 2 жыл бұрын

True Genius! Amazing to see these top alphas in their prime.

@MercenaryZack Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know where I can watch the original broadcasts of these games? I would love to see each and every game as it was played and shown on TV.

@johnfredydiaz 2 ай бұрын

Ya las consiguió?

@triflomastera4882 2 жыл бұрын

Huge inaccuracy: Azerbaijan wasn't a "satelite state" of the USSR, it was part of it. One of the republics, just like Russia was.

@oliverfelix3362 2 жыл бұрын

Just wrong term or label. Azerbaijan was one of the Republics in the USSR, not a satellite state .

@Bob31415 Жыл бұрын

True. See my comment.

@Colonel_RamRod 4 ай бұрын

39:10 that is seriously impressive he’s right most of the time when a champion or team chokes the big one they aren’t right back at the top the next year. I’ve really become intrigued by Karpov and Kasparov

@dennisduigou5384 2 жыл бұрын

OK, where do I get that chess set in front of Karpov?

@tomomanpanama 4 ай бұрын

How do we go from the tournament in Spain 1992 (38:27) where Garry defends the title, and then the following segment is another challenge in NYC 1990 (44:23)?

@dysonsphere2394 Жыл бұрын

19:14 A timestamp for future reference, as I find myself wanting to watch it again and again. As the narrator says himself, such a rebellion is the first for the USSR, and probably the most "heroic" moments in chess history. I would go as far as to say it's one of the most monumental moments in chess history altogether, outside of games themselves.

@Bianstus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the upload but subtitles would be so much better than dubbing... So distracting

@Bob31415 Жыл бұрын

With subtitles you're busy reading and can't watch the video. Dubbing is better.

@Doodloper 2 жыл бұрын

2:38 - Nice watch!

@davidcopson5800 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't got time for looking at watches.

@Doodloper 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidcopson5800 - Haha!

@mrpwp7814 2 жыл бұрын

How could have Tigran Petrosian spoken to Kasparov after the match? Petrosian died in 1984.

@davidcopson5800 Жыл бұрын

He used a medium. This medium was very, very uncommon and became known as medium rare, because there was a lot at steak.

@zachhaywood1564 Жыл бұрын

It seems like a lot of people these days think Magnus Carlsen and Hikaru is the greatest chess rivalry. I direct them to this.

@theveni6264 Жыл бұрын

10:23 Why Leonardo Licaprio taking pictures of these two?

@veenahatolkar6297 3 ай бұрын

lol actually !!!

@arthurmiller6064 Жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: Nikitin ,before Kasparov rise, was part of Karpov team. And when Anatoly and Fischer talked about playing a match in 1975...Guess what? Nikitin reported Karpov to the Sports Comitee....what a rat this Nikitin!

@erandeser5830 2 жыл бұрын

Kasparov underestimated the world champion. Really.

@rodrigosalvadorcruz40 2 жыл бұрын

As a human he is really selfish man that I wouldn't want next to me but as a chess player is admirable

@petec3185 Жыл бұрын

I want to hear more from the psychic medium

@venust.4119 10 ай бұрын

As a 35 yo Russian, I shamefully admit I never knew about this story of rivalry. Two different personalities and opposite word and political views. Why do we need to have only one who's the best of the best? To me they were all kings: Fisher, Karpov, and Kasparov...and others who were exceptional.

@user-yd3iy6tf6x 9 ай бұрын

Не бывает бывшего короля. Они все великие ЛЮДИ!

@user-rd8sc8dy5c 4 ай бұрын

Все они великие шахматисты.

@dannygjk 8 ай бұрын

Correction: Chess rivalry of the planet.

@represiya7035 2 жыл бұрын

7:29 hellish mix of blood ,why?

@StopFear 2 жыл бұрын

Lol it’s so funny when the narrator cannot even pronounce the English pronunciation of such a famous name as Gorbachev. But still a good documentary.

@beeilve 2 жыл бұрын

At 2:30 he says "Forfeit" but the pronounciation is "Forefeet". It's a bizarre mistake. No native speaker would ever make that mistake. But at the same time everything else up until that point is perfect. He can't be a monolingual, native English speaker or else he wouldn't say it like that. And he can't be a foreigner speaking English as a second language because he is too good. He's trapped in some kind of linguistic paradox.

@Vicente.Panuccio 2 жыл бұрын

The story shows what did not work in Soviet System. They had the intention of protect Karpov, and they achieved exactly the opposite. Karpov was a great champion and did not deserve it. He found himself losing an advantage of two points and at the same time appeared as if he went to dirty tricks to suspending the match.

@rodrigosalvadorcruz40 2 жыл бұрын

Could you explain your point view buddy?

@rodrigosalvadorcruz40 2 жыл бұрын

We have to keep in mind that karpov wasn't in his prime at that age difference compared to Kasparov's

@Vicente.Panuccio 2 жыл бұрын

@@rodrigosalvadorcruz40 In spanish or in english?

@gusleffers9265 11 ай бұрын

This one case does not disprove the entire ‘Soviet System’

@maxhenry1977 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@MikeP843 2 жыл бұрын

Just to think we don’t get along with these guys right now.. hopefully chess stops ww3

@hanssolos3699 2 жыл бұрын

hahaha war is chess 🤣

@chillax9184 2 жыл бұрын

Karpov is Pro-Putin and is in Duma. While Kasparov is known to be a critic of Putin and wants democracy in Russia

@Bob31415 Жыл бұрын

1:20 - Phil Donahue?

@atomaalatonal 2 жыл бұрын

karpov was like water with his playstyle. a blend of asian spirit and european reason

@TheDrewjirby 2 жыл бұрын

Fischer was afraid of Karpov. He knew he couldn’t win. Karpov would’ve crushed him. Not playing Fischer is NOT a blemish

@thesubhumancomedy 2 жыл бұрын

Trolling much?

@mrkipling2201 2 жыл бұрын

I think Fischer would have beaten Karpov. Comprehensively.

@arkos1179 2 жыл бұрын

@Joseph Aiken kqrpov still had a chance and wouldve gotten steonger if they met the next time, so fischer was scared that karpov might overtqke him

@innosanto Жыл бұрын

Fischer would win. And he would be stronger in the next 10 years than the previous ones.

@Bob31415 Жыл бұрын

I agree. I've always believed the reason for all the unreasonable demands from Fischer was to avoid playing Karpov because Fischer was rusty after not having played competitively for three years. Fischer was scared to play Karpov.

@raygordonteacheschess5501 2 жыл бұрын

All this match did was end the obsession with Fischer. Once the K's returned that was it. No followup."

@yes-gn4jf Жыл бұрын

35:02

@HundreadD Жыл бұрын

Nice chair Karpov.

@therealbs2000 2 жыл бұрын

The narrator...has some interesting pronunciations. Gor-BAH-chev 2:30 "Forfeit" pronounced for-FEET (instead of FOR-fit) Anyone place the pronunciation?

@satvikgupta2324 Ай бұрын

Karpov defeated Kasparov without winning a single world championship over him.

@louthurston8088 7 ай бұрын

Historic chess players, but Gary is much more than a chess player.

@simonjohn70 3 ай бұрын

Karpov was no joke he rarely makes a mistake in the game , thats why IBM paid him to help improve Deep Blue's Endgame book of knowledge

@orwbarcelona01 3 ай бұрын

Petrosian was already dead (1984), so he cannot have said anything to Kasparov when he became champion in 1985.

@smegheadGOAT Ай бұрын

Karpov came off the better man in this.

@mrmandanvan3793 2 жыл бұрын

Huh

@mister-do5469 Жыл бұрын

Maybe Fischer was afraid to lose his WM Titel... Without gaming nobody can say he lose against Karpov.... Maybe not.....

@johncraftenworth7847 2 жыл бұрын

kasparov's gambit. also respect to him for remaining russian citizen no matter what

@MaximGhost 2 жыл бұрын

Russian citizen AND anti-Putin and willing to go to jail for it. So, respect squared.

@johncraftenworth7847 2 жыл бұрын

@@MaximGhost putin won't jail him, too much political downside as he is a national hero and celebrity

@MaximGhost 2 жыл бұрын

@@johncraftenworth7847 Huh? Kasparov was jailed as per 49:44 for protesting Putin. Kasparov said Karpov tried to visit him in jail and Kasparov admitted that he may have misjudged Karpov in his youth. Is this misinformation?

@MaximGhost 2 жыл бұрын

@@johncraftenworth7847 ... Kasparov was only in jail 5 days though. So, yeah, no long imprisonment for him.

@johncraftenworth7847 2 жыл бұрын

@@MaximGhost arch rivals, but unless there is some heinous act to fuel things on, most become the best of friends after retirement. They said the soldier of the Civil War, both northerners and southerners, always felt more closely bonded to one another after the war than with other people in society.

@gautruc 2 жыл бұрын

Reason I rank Kasparov the most famous chess player, I highly admire on him.

@Bob31415 Жыл бұрын

6:55 - Azerbaijan was not a "satellite state of the USSR". It was a constituent republic of the USSR.

@herrerasyvovololeksandr2841 Жыл бұрын

this is a gem !

@dgontar 4 ай бұрын

8:03 1975, not 1974.

@turgaycoruhlu4648 2 ай бұрын

karpov is great

@Aresh831 2 жыл бұрын

Armenians are great chess ♟ players Tigran Petrsoian, Levon Aronyan, Garry Kasparov, Samuel Sevyan the list goes on …

@innosanto Жыл бұрын

These are Jewish. Pedrosian, Aronyan, and Kasparov are Jewish.

@maughan3061 2 жыл бұрын

So glad you haven't given yourselves over to the mania Timeline. Perhaps you could find something about pre-first world war ferver and anti-German propaganda that would be highly appropriate and appreciated.

@thesubhumancomedy 2 жыл бұрын

Karpov seems like such a gentleman, and a man with his heart in the right place. Why he chose Soviet over freedom of speech, unless family, no idea.

@mel124177 2 жыл бұрын

You have no idea how the Soviets can be very brutal to defectors. Think of Nokor's Kim dynasty to dissidents and defectors....

@MrSharkpoet 2 жыл бұрын

Just look what happened to the defector Karpov played twice, Korchnoi. Korchnoi mentions in his autobiography that Karpov made plans to defect if Karpov lost to Korchnoi.

@thesubhumancomedy 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSharkpoet Karpov actually seems like a nice human being. Don't believe all you read ;P

@MrSharkpoet 2 жыл бұрын

@@thesubhumancomedy I mean no disrespect to the champion. In fact, I enjoy playing over his games. My point was that he saw first hand what happens if one happens to speak up. We also know what happened to Boris Spassky as well.

@MrSharkpoet 2 жыл бұрын

@@thesubhumancomedy In fact, if memory serves, it was Karpov who reached out to Kasparov while Kasparov was in prison. Even stated that it was no way to treat a champion. I admire Karpov in that, yes he did benefit from the system, but found ways to be a gentleman as well.

@jgestiot 6 ай бұрын

This documentary makes the mistake of calling a "match" a "game" and a "game" a "round". This tells me that there was no chess expert involved in the making of the documentary

@collinsoconnor5843 2 жыл бұрын

My name is Dan Rain

@rheijm9201 11 ай бұрын

We get to see the garde klok in on sentence with prstigepus school of botwinnik. Today people still cant set the thing, the digital one, i still wonder why did they have to introduce it ..because of the battery glorify era? One day that will pass