Does this mean if Gemini had gone ahead Fireball might never have happened ? (Fireball was my 1st brush with heavy rock).

@@TimLondonGuitarist Yes absolutely

@@karsguitarchannel6088 I was living in a rural farming community then in Yorkshire UK, it's amazing how Concerto suddenly got rocker farm workers to appreciate orchestras, prior to that they would've written it off as 'posh rubbish'

Glad u cleared that up cuz I was about to nerdily make a correction about what the first big hard rock album was that Purple recorded after Concerto😁

This story is incorrect. Jon Bonham never chased Richie down the studio and beat the crap out of him. Total bs. Richie did tell Jon about the fact that Led Zeppelin was copying songs. But they were sort of having a ‘funny’ go at each other. When you tell a story like that, don’t just say ‘supposedly’ when it never really happened and there’s no evidence showing it. State your sources?

I used to think of these guys as old boring rock!but listening to Bonham drumming, its pretty easy to hear how good he was!

That’s amazing! I’m so Jel of you older generation. I’m from a town in the uk called Bristol, my fathers best friend watched Led Zeppelin, black sabbath & Jimi Hendrix in a venue here called “the Colston hall” it’s still there now, such a small venue considering how big they became, he even seen the Beatles at weston super mare (just up the rd from Bristol) what a time to be alive

Even the one with Lemmy and Phil Lynott? LOL

The best one remains the one with the oral $ex t-shirt.

@@tombieder8916 That shirt is so Bonham !! When he had a few in him I hear he really could make the ladies swoon 🥴🥴

@@kenglass7833 do you think the t-shirt helped him with the ladies ? Aha

@@tombieder8916 Tom, how could it not ??

That one got me through high school.

Glenn Hughes shines with an outstanding Vocal performance on that Album too.... Fresh outa Rehab. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndmHnbeQyLrKcaM.html

Stargazer or Kashmir? They're both brilliant, but I prefer Stargazer. I think Dio was a much better vocalist than Plant.

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Wrong cozy powell was from london and plant was from west bromwich and bonham lived in the uk

@@zog97xy no you wrong not me

Who's Robert Pland?

@@lusighfer As I said, Pland was Cozy Powell's high school buddy. Nothing do with Robert Plant the musician.

@@lusighfer Robert Plant è il cantante e leader dei LED Zeppelin.

Yes I did a story on Blackmore's 'Baby Face' project with Phil Lynott.

Roger Glover is a phenomenal bass player. Try playing the parts to Highway star or No no no for example. Great note choices and moving around a lot with great melody!! A hero of mine. After he left Deep Purple their sound was thin and brittle. He was a great producer too.

Baby face...wow blackmore had s** names for bands back then, rainbow kicked a* but it had a fruity name too. 🤔

@Disc Dfs mmm awful immature names for bands or whatever. Kick a** bands though

Glover is an in-the-pocket bassist and an excellent one.

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Well, he is the G.O.A.T.

@@johnnielsen2093 yeah

"The greatest rock drummer England ever produced" -John Bonham in regards to Barry Barlow

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Bands didn’t play the Rainbow, they hung out there. I used to see Jason Bonham, Slash, Lemmy (amongst others) at the Rainbow.

Then you probably never went upstairs, bands played the upstairs room all the time in the timeframe you mentioned, the entry was by the bathrooms into that room.

I met Jason Bonham there in the fall of 1990, just standing by himself, so I walked up and said “your dad was the greatest” and he said something like “Oh thanks mate.” This was around the time his band ‘Bonham’ was trying to make waves. Obviously he knew his Dad used to hang out there, so he was walking in his footsteps. He was totally cool, but I kept it simple and left him alone and walked away. I just wanted to tell him what he already had probably heard a million times before! But it didn’t bother him at all, and it probably never gets old.

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True. I watched a Blackmore interview not very long ago where Ritchie said this same thing.

Pero como guitarrista, prefiero a Ritchie ... Cuidado, estos son todos tipos de 8,50 para arriba, en escala de 1 a 10 ... 😎🇦🇷

Led Zeppelin 1 really sent shockwaves throughout the music world. 2 was what broke them through as the top band commercially. But the first album really impacted the rock world. Deep Purple actually fired their original singer because of Led Zeppelin 1. And Black Sabbath was so inspired by it, that they decided to dramatically switch up their style, because they wanted to go even heavier than Zeppelin. They were doing a style that was more similar to Cream and early Fleetwood Mac. And Roger Daltrey said that Zeppelin came along and “took things to the next level, when everyone else was kind of on the down-end.” Led Zeppelin 1 established Hard Rock as a new genre, and can be totally classified as Hard Rock from start to finish. The first, true Heavy Rock album. Rather than simply having elements of heaviness. It established the “heaviness” in all ways. Guitar, drums, bass, and vocals.

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I saw that same tour in the Astrodome. Except the opening bands were Navasota, Elf, and J. Geils Band.

He comes across as a troubled guy. I know he was ultimately a family man who wanted to be on his farm most of all, but his violent side is pretty disturbing (particularly his assaults on women) .

@@drummer78 all to much to young

I'm reading it now. It's a great read.

Eso compa tu sabes en verdad Bonham fue el mas popular bateria pero para mi los mejores drummers fueron los progresivos como Neil Peart Bill Bruford Phil Collins ect Bonham aunque fue bien rockero pero no tenia el technico jazz como ellos pero en verdad Bonham fue uno de mi favoritos tambien porque el amaba Ringo Starr y queria ser como el segun Joe Walsh Richie Blackmore fue mi favorito guitarista con rainbow y el epico RJ Dio que voz epico especialmente Rainbow Rising incluyendo Cozy Powell

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Why not? Bonham was a pretty strong guy from all the years of heavy drumming. Ritchie messed with people and talked shit a lot. I am surprised Ritchie did not get punched out more often.

well , ritchie is authentic and Bonham too , just it made me laugh ; )

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This whole clip is like an episode of That Metal Show. And a lot of these stores are 35-40 years old. Great to hear some of these lesser known stories about musicians doing more than turning it up to 11.

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True. I've read that in a couple different books.

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I think that's been the accepted theory and I believe I've heard interviews from either Dio or Blackmore where they said as much.

It's been well documented over the years that that was where the seeds were planted for Rainbow. They both had a fondness for medieval music and history.

... ya think 🤔

Ian Paice is fucking Dynamite 🧨!!!

@@JohnSmith-rk6jy getoff mykitchngo away

Bonham was louder and heavier

Alcoholics say a lot of dumb things!

Paice was fantastic but Bonzo was better

Thank you so much Jason, such a great pleausre to hear this!

I know a lot about rock history but even I learn from Kars stories.

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wasn't at the drop of a hat. the guy was surrounded with narcissistic buttholes, and he gave them what they asked for. don't approve his type of solution, but props for him not taking their bullcrap.

@@LfunkeyAI agree. It's so sad that he drank that hard because he hated being away from his family.

On the 1977 US Tour journalists were issued with a set of rules on how/what/when etc - One of the rules was 'Do not look directly at John Bonham: this is for your own protection' Peter Grant introduced himself to Bob Dylan at an LA party in 1975 thus - "Hi Bob. I'm Peter Grant and I manage Led Zeppelin" Dylan [ as Groucho ] replied "Look man, I don't come to you with my problems" Kenneth Anger said "talking to Jimmy Page was like tapping on inch thick plate glass". "Led Zeppelin? Dangerous assholes" - Cynthia Emerson [ one of the Plastercasters ]. Great band though

Lmbo. The book I'm reading about Bonzo, says differently.

As an old regional drummer, I think Paice is the all around best drummer along with Barlow, (yes, J. Tull's 2nd one) and Baker, but let's not forget the amazing Bill Ward from my favorite band. And Blackmore was at or extremely near the top for guitarists.

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Bonham also played with Wings on Beware My Love's demo in 1976 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9WTbMeftLqUo4k.html

wings did some heavy stuff ? or was Bonham heavily restrained ?

@@TimLondonGuitarist Not all Zeppelin is heavy, just like not all McCartney is light. Rockestra was McCartney trying to create a live Rock orchestra, with multiple musicians on each instrument. There was a tv special that aired in the late 70s on this, and an example can be found here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9Rjfrh2ss6zcmQ.html

He did play with him kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e7CXasyF282tgYk.html

@@scottroland1272 I said he did not play with McCartney before Bonham became a member of Led Zeppelin. Since Wings was formed 3-4 years after Led Zeppelin's first album was released, this video corresponds with that timeline.

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How could that have worked when Jimmy didn't meet Bonham until July of '68, and that song was released in April of '68? Bonham wasn't a studio musician

Clem Cattini drums John Bonham percussion on the song Hurdy Gurdy Man.

@@richardhincemon Did you not read my comment, or can you not read?

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Great story, thanks for sharing!

You may have needed up similar to Bill Graham's (concert promoter) security person, brutally beaten, by Bonham, Cole, Bindon, and Grant. They were all charged with assault.

I heard that Ritchie didn't audition any drummers at all. When Cozy came, Ritchie gave him the job right away.

@@karsguitarchannel6088 ok so Bobby Berge is a liar because he definitely auditioned and the various writings/interviews from people like Jimmy Bain indicate a number of people tried and failed until Cozy outdid Ritchie's request for a shuffle and was picked.

@@karsguitarchannel6088 According to Cozy Powell print interviews he has said he did indeed have to audition for Rainbow. He didn't bring his drum kit w/him, & had to use the kit of the previous drummer that had auditioned just ahead of him. He said he thinks it was all theatre of Blackmore's doing to set the tone for their future relationship as his band mate & employee. That's what I have read. There may even be a few videos of several musicians telling the tale as told to them by Cozy. I think Bobby Rondinelli may be one of them.

@@Dibbdroid That is the correct story. Yes Cozy got the job. This guy doesn't know his stuff. In Rock was the First Hard Album by Deep Purple. Fireball was the second.

@@kurtsherrick2066 I ignored the In Rock error, it was too bad. Some of us were around when these albums came out, hoovering up the interviews, watching the tours and the fan forums around have a lot more truth than this channel. This is the guy who claims ACDC blew Rainbow of stage during the Rising tour.... reaches for Deutschland Tournee....

Wings didn't even exist until well after Led Zeppelin began making records

i agree.

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Of course, but we are talking about 'Gemini Suite' here which came out after 'In Rock' and before 'Fireball'. Ritchie Blackmore didn't want to play on it and Jon Lord recorded it as his first solo album. That was his second album with an orchestra after 'the Concerto'.

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Yes they did, we did a video about that

@@karsguitarchannel6088 cheers for that 👍i was offered that album by a neighbour around 45yrs ago. I should have grabbed it.

Yes and it's a horrible album

If Bonham was the Atlantic, Buddy Rich was the Pacific!

That’s a great comment. While Rich was undoubtably technically better, Bonham sounded better, rocked harder and was more instantly identifiable but like all things, this is a matter of opinion…

Well, I had to say outside Led Zeppelin. Anyway, I heard that they met during some session work in the 60s, correct me if I'm wrong

@@karsguitarchannel6088 Not aware of Bonham doing studio session work. Jimmy Page was one of the busiest session musicians in the UK prior to Zeppelin and he met Bonham through Robert Plant who in turn was recommended to him by Terry Reid. Page went to see Bonham for the first time when he was backing touring American singer Tim Rose. While Rose worked with many famous names, Blackmore is not listed among them. You said what you said and that is Bonham worked with all these people before he joined Zeppelin. That was factually wrong.

As for John dissing Ian Paice I think he'd look up to him if anything as he's as good as John is ☺

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We talk about 'Gemini Suite' here not 'the Concerto'. Fireball came out after Gemini Suite. Yes sure In Rock was Purple's first hard rock album, nobody argues that

@@karsguitarchannel6088 I was thinking about what was actually recorded at the time. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Happy New Year. Rock On.

@@kurtsherrick2066 That's ok Kurt, thanks! Rock on!

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That’s funny!

Sir.. Learn to read.

and the best hard rock album ever

They didn't have smartphones back in the day

And a ton of misinformation

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I think Ritchie was just winding Bonham up. Whole Lotta Love has nothing to do with Hey Joe. Maybe Immigrant Song. Anyway Whole Lotta Love sounds unique, nothing like Hey Joe.

@Bruce: Hendrix wasn't the best guitarist of his era.

Page hated wrst album of lzm it was a RIP off blues for him.

@@MGB18 you're nuts.