Isn't it chinese, too?

@@P7Hook yup, tencent has majority

biggest difference is the CCP hasn't directly threaten military action against US or its allies, and/or directly involved in war with a country the US has ties to.

@@cranberrysauce61 Chi-na has connections with Russia

@@gearfriedtheswmasRussia and China are not on good terms right now I think

Howly how do u know

Eternal Blue wasnt found by Kaspersky it got leaked by The Shadow Brokers. Pegasus is amateur work compared to the shit the NSA pulls off.

Also operation triangulation makes Pegasus look like a joke.

@@FurkanOz480 it would make sense since it undermines US deep state interests.

No. Any anti-malware company could do that as well.

Never did trust these anti virus's back then and I still don't now!

interesting

What do you mean?

It most certainly retaliation for that. It they were actually concerned about hostile nation software they'd be banning all chinese software because chinese businesses also have a requirement to surrender any and all information to the CCP if they're told to. Chinese spies are caught in the US all the time trying to steal things in government and research so they more than meet the criteria for being considered a hostile nation. China just makes all the worlds cheap goods so no one's willing to actually do anything about it.

@@Halcyon737 Israel created Pegasus. Kaspersky was one of the first anti-virus's to be able to stop Pegasus. So, take from that what you will but i think he means that the US doesn't want a Russian anti-virus stopping a Israeli (US ally) virus from spying on Americans, for the US government.

this does not stop any security research being done by the Kaspersky teams. that literally not how internet works, bub. all this does is mitigates the number of potential targets within the US from falling victim to a pseuo-Commercial company that is directly controlled by Kremlin. this isn't a hyperbole. if a nation like Russia routinely sends teenagers to prison for merely mentioning Ukraine in a positive light, how much control do you think they have over devs at a company like Kaspersky that have root access to users PCs?

@@GTV8593 We do not send teenagers to prison for this, you are victim of a propaganda.

@@GTV8593 yup! american spyware allowed only. the U.S government is the only government who deserves your data. And there is no actual evidence kaspersky is nefarious, being russian means the U.S government shouldnt use it but banning it for citizens is a stretch. It's like tiktok was under fire when people act like instagram aint taking your data

@@GTV8593 The Swiss company Kaspersky

​@@GTV8593 can you provide a name of at least one teenager who ended up in prison for said deed?

very well said.

That is exactly it!

but this time around, we are trying to have a command economy. We want to be the commies this time.

Livin under a rock ehy

friend, the cold war never stopped

Cold? There's literally a war going on right now...

Cold War never ended buddy. Collapse of the USSR only paused the bad feelings between the USA and Russia.

The implied argument is "the source code for the software of a Russian company is unknown". Considering that the US and Russia are in a proxy war, the ban makes sense.

And windows is closed sourced too.

@@chamezard reason you should not use windows

Putin pays one team to make malware and gets money from the other team making and selling Kaspersky. He then takes the malware's code from the team making them and hands it to the team making Kaspersky. Neat way to fund an army.

​@@STCatchMeTRACjRo But I thought security through obscurity was cool. How are you going to hack something if you literally cannot see the screen? /s

No joke. Third parties test Kaspersky regularly. They run it through the wringer, and it's fantastic.

I do so Nobody can trust US as well

i think more than Google, Apple or Microsoft, meta by far is the worst the SELL your data plus they don't have good history of security breaches and have lost massive no. of accounts to hackers...

Those companies are just collecting our data for the U.S. government.. so nothing to worry about. I'm sure it's fine. 🙄 Don't ask questions.

​@@ssr4xlxl691I'll rather trust Russia than U.S. because at least they don't collect my personal data and send it to the goverment and profit of it.

Also they previously uploaded NSA spyware to their cloud.

my first thought

@@DangerWrap they did?

Or maybe because it's software easily compromised by the Kremlin.

they also uncovered Triangulation exploit on iOS:

stuxnet, eternalblue, WannaCry, etc.

Uninstall Windows Tracking is not good

Bingo someone who did some research, I did not mention this in my own comment but not only that, look at the CVE registry to see there is far more to this... Regardless, Kaspersky is SOC 2 TYPE II compliant and certified, I hope you understand what international requirements you must meet to even be considered for a SOC 2 (not to mention a TYPE II) certification. If you get that you know why this relates to the former. But Again, if I am a better man, which I am not, I would think the US will Recommend Trend Micro or Sophos. Which is ok, better than McFee and other known brands but again you can independently verify why END POINT security by Kaspersky makes the rest look like ClamAV. But fair enough, politics aside, Sophos have great solutions and in my experience better than Trend Micro. So what is next, Proton? Yes the Kaspersky Labs they are cutting ties with is Swiss not Russian... again must of the same vibe going on as was the case with TT. Oh to get a SOC 2 TYPE II certification you must have independent labs (ovrtr 680) review your source code. I can go on and on about standards but as the commenter said, it is about Pegasys.

You will be the target of surveillance and potential blackmail if you use Russian apps. Because that's what they practice.

@@Brave_Lion Russia is not known to be spying on the general public unlike a certain organisation

@@Brave_Lion Lol

​@@Brave_Lionlmao, nafo bots glow so hard😂 I wonder what kind of data pegasus has on you

@@eye_close The American authorities are the authorities. The Russian authorities are a mafia without moral principles who want to organize a bloody revolution all over the world (you can see what this looks like in Ukraine). This is the reason why you should not use Russian apps. Russians are looking all over the world for terrorists and radicals in order to force them to commit murders and sabotage through bribery, propaganda or blackmail.

Just gives you another reason to keep using it.

The most dangerous words from government is " I'm from the government and we're here to help

I've been using Kaspersky since the mid late 90s never a problem

@@me-fv5xb so sad tho i mean gov. are supposed to help people but here the US gov is becoming a criminal enterprise....

@@Pakistani890Every government. Not just the US one.

It’s almost scary how fast the US is turning incredibly nationalistic and xenophobic of anything that isn’t American

You guys never had one to begin with

US govt will tell u what to think and how to think.

@@SkSafowan "Your ship is sinking too, just not as fast!!!" Wow, sick burn dude. You really got em with that one

nope, but it's sad to see people buying into, even passively, the exact thing political entities are trying to do - change language to change the way you think. the fact that freedom is being visibly eroded (not like it wasn't previously but nobody paid attention) absolutely does not mean its definition changing.. no sequitor - absolute nonsense.

why....

@@derek8564 do you know what kind of people Musk and Zuckerberg are?? If you know, you wouldn't trust anything they touch.

and you'd be wrong

There's no doubt about that

@@frankenmizer828 NO.

XD

America being America, stupid people stupid rules

Not quite. The 'accuser' is not, presently, run by a man that murders his national opposition. Eugene Kaspersky could be murdered if he does not do what Putin wants. That is not speculation it is a fact. Putin murders Russians that annoy him.

Facts. Still waiting for evidence of those supposed Huawei backdoors that the US claimed to totally be there.

Facts. Still waiting for evidence of those supposed Huawei backdoors that the U$ claimed to totally be there.

"They" love to accuse others of what they are guilty of. This happened many, many times in history.

@@MuammarQadaffi Russia is run by a murderer and tyrant. So are many Islamic nations. Perhaps that is why you making that claim.

Source?

Where you heard this one ?

@@EpicBunty windows recall feature

it even has prebuilt coin miner that stealthily uses your cpu to mine in the background. 👍

consent, not consciousness 😂

really? I dont find it in any news

​@@farhanrejwanIt isn't conscious, yet. Just wait until they put AI on it 😏😁

@@gamerdudegamerdude4961 REALLY?

It's the Kremlin's fault for infesting every company in Russia

this stone also kills a second bird: Kaspersky recently figured out how to remove Pegasus ( malware the NSA uses ), and they obviously don't want people to be able to use that ability.

indeed. but they can't say it on this channel.

@@farhanrejwan Can't? Or don't want to?

Meta, Google and other US companies too.. 😄

Kaspersky isn't available on Linux right?

@@A1stardan Linux don't require av's in most cases

Im not sure, but I would be more concerned about my country getting my data more than any other one coz they kinda can do more with that than say, idk, france

Puerile. There are no simple rules and everything must be judged case by case. There are 10,000 things that the government and its agents do every day that allow you live your life in a comfortable enough state so that you can watch your anime and post on the internet.

This type of logic sounds good until you actually start abiding by it. Gov' says I shouldn't eat nuclear waste so should I do it anyway?

​@@user-lc7pk6zx7xBro just shut up and stop licking government's boots

Especially when they want you to inject untested gene therapy into your body 🤮

Brainlet take

Same here.

Alright Putin.

Kaspersky protect you from nsa.that why they want it banned

Good for you man, there's equally good and better software but keep on keeping on.

Well...good on you, comrade ;)

@@ChrisM541 I'm a republican capitalist silly!!

@@user-lc7pk6zx7x Which one is the better software?

IRS: “See, I told the general the fines write themselves. 😊”

Bis unsere Politik meinen mit zuziehen mit dem ban, wie sie es ja auch schon bei tiktok erwähnt haben

All major German private and government-owned companies banned Kaspersky by themselves when the war started. You are of course free to install spyware by yourself.

been using kaspersky since 2016. i don't notice any impact in performance and i have not once been infected, and i use the computer 12 hours a day on average

This is true and I'm sure Kaspersky will take action based on the ruling. It's too big a market to just accept the ban.

i have doubts that you understand the meaning of the word "bureaucracy"

@@GTV8593 Nice opinion, irrelevant, but nice none the less.

Trusting Russian software is plain retarded

@@GainingDespair lmfao

lmaoo

They do. So does the DoJ.

Top 2 options are bitdefender and Kaspersky but Kaspersky is over all better

you won't need anything if you perk up your prevention: watch what you download, ublock origin with all lists enabled, adblock and malblock DNS in your router

@@Dionysor one also need services that block or notify scam sites. The reason is self-control/prevention might not work if the social engineering is too good. Kaspersky have that services.

@@xponen ublock origin has such lists:)

Being a competent internet user is the best security.

and hence dont trust Microsoft, install Linux

@@gzcwnk fr

Well obviously but it's the USA that's banning these, they want the control of being able to hold foreign companies, for example, with the tiktok ban that's soon to come, if the tiktok company relocates to a USA based company then the USA has the ability to use a court issued warrant to easily gain access to all it's data on the users. Also I do believe that this will slowly crawl so that they ban foreign VPN's unless they're USA based in order to do the same thing and spy on the users.

@@gzcwnk With linux, this can be done just as easily lol. Many developers are located in America. Many programs are created in America. What prevents the NSA from embedding a backdoor into the program so that it will be almost impossible to detect? Linux has found vulnerabilities that have not been fixed for 10 years. There is also a recent case of a vulnerability that was found literally by accident.... And if my memory serves me correctly, it was discovered by a Microsoft employee, not a vaunted community....

Logic? USA want to control everyone is the logic. The reason is exactly the same as to why USA did not ban ticktok but rather want a us company to acquire it. Only USA has the "right" to spy and wreck havoc on and from the internet. You know, like having a backdoor to every single win10 home for a few years, or trying to make a nuclear facility in a foreign country go booom...

wanna question something else? Why did the US spent trillion of dollars for Cold War against SU, yet still was buying their rocket engines until recently

​@@Rubicola174 Read that again

Because Kaspersky discovered Pegasus, a spyware for IOS and Android. Some powerful country somewhere didn't like that.

@@jiffonbuffo Not entirely true. Citizen Lab (and Lookout) discovered Pegasus on iOS.. Kaspersky researchers then found out it worked on Android as well, through a different mode of attack.

​@@jiffonbuffo Don't forget operation triangulation

You might as well buy the protection software from the same country producing the most viruses, malware, etc. that makes you need something like Kaspersky. Create the problem then supply the solution. That's Russia.

Yeah--both Norton and McAfee are garbage.

Same here, I’ve been using it for almost 3 years now and just renewed my subscription 2 days ago. I guess we’ll be forced to move to a close second such as Bitdefender

Kaspersky is overrated.

@@user-lc7pk6zx7x Nyet. Top of the line

Same here. I've used it for years, and it has saved me a couple of times.

@@user-lc7pk6zx7x kaspersky is overrated my ass

Indeed, you have more to fear from your land's and their allies intelligence services than far-off Russia. The former actually have the power to use info and access against you legally.

I think ultimately depends on what is the purpose of the device it is installed in. If you are working with for example the US government and handling some very important secrets that Russian Intelligence might want, then it might not be a good idea to use Kaspersky. On the other hand, if you are an everyday person who have nothing in particular that is of interest to Russian or even Chinese intelligence and instead have a greater risk of some corpos sneaking in Pegasus and the like to steal your personal data for God-knows-what purposes, then it is safer to use Kaspersky than say Norton or Mcafee.

@@rps215 Sure, but government machines/users were already banned from using Kaspersky (by rule, if not law) for years now. This is more of a punishment or tit for tat by the US than anything related remotely close to protecting its citizens as claimed.

where women glow and men plunder can you hear the thunder you better better run you better take cover

The SEC.

@@frankenmizer828 might want to expand on that, it would be a totally different company formed and based in US.

@@dave24-73 Likely something to it. Xiaomi has US operations but their phones are still banned here. They are so big they could easily do what you mentioned. Which really makes no sense as iPhones were made in China for decades.

they wont do anything against their "greatest ally" and Overlord

What's that?

He means that the yzraeli intelligence agency (aka the mo ssad), may have some privileged access to public/sensitive data, due to the infiltration of their High Tech companies/startups working under the banner of Big Tech... basically all the info is infiltrated indirectly to the Yzraeli government... The issue with that, is that the NSA knows it... Horrifying!

probably this data is used primarily for 2 objectives : 1/ Use it for commercial purposes, basically profiting with barely any expenses. as well as, having a good understanding of US consumers which provide a high competitiveness advantage. 2) Politics, manipulating the public in a way that suits their agenda. The US is their golden Easter, unfortunately we pay for their development, whereas many schools are extremely underfunded...

Can you tell some more about this embed software?

the free version is not as secure as the paid version for obvious reasons. while most users could go for what you suggested, not everyone's daily needs can be met with that.

If the ban is not lifted, Kaspersky may be forced to comply on its side by blocking connections from the US, so any Kaspersky software won’t work. You would have to use a VPN to make it work

@@farhanrejwanThe free version is very good with fewer features as the paid options. I remember installing it on a PC that turned out was infected, and after scanning and rebooting as required by Kaspersky, I rescanned and it was clean and safe to use

Just buy a license from outside the USA.

@@repairman2be250 sneak 100 😂

I gave it up 6 years ago for Bitdefender. Putin is literally a one man Dictator hence he can do anything he wants as Kaspersky is literally A Russian com[any with is HQ in Moscow

But laptops or phones with them installed can be seized.

Exactly. Information wants to be free, so let it stay free.

Heh. Sure - go ahead and think that. Watch as near-future Microsoft Patch Tuesdays rip it right out of your system.

They can force you to not be able to update without going through a bunch of hoops

Windows? Linux all the way then baby​@@frankenmizer828

Why would those be a threat? You're required to explain how all of those devices work before they can be sold in the US. The NSA even mandates complete access to every part of them and anything they're capable of.

@@lainamitclaire That makes their decision on Kaspersky even more questionable, the NSA can verify what every pc component made in China can and can't do, but they can't prove Kaspersky is or could be used as malware, and base their ban purely on speculation? Just like Leo said, if they want to protect against foreign, enemy countries using technology as a leverage against the US, they'd have to ban *all* kinds of software made by Russia, not just one particular antivirus

@@juanin200 I'm not saying it makes sense, I'm saying "If you ban Kaspersky why not ban all silicon from China" makes even LESS sense.

You mean Lenovo

What BIOS chip and firmware are you using that is Chinese? You probably have an American (ie American Megatrends) or Taiwanese (Insyde) bios chip and firmware. You're also more likely to have US semiconductors (since they make up like 50% of the global market) than China's.

I think they also have servers in Mexico as well

same lmao

@@what_the_actual_hay It works too calling them Kremlins some even say their worse then Gremlins

of course not, recall even stores the data in plaintext so that your good old friend Pegasus (US Spyware) can simply access it without decryption :) Sadly Kaspersky figured out how to detect and counter Pegasus and now theyre banned in the US. Happy little coincedences

@@_fremdkoerper But NSA can't stop me for downloading Kasperky from a proxy and VPN

Better than nothing? I'll take the nothing. Thanks.

​@@Natez-vw4kd Dumb

​@@Natez-vw4kdbad bot.

Just like Vanguard, because it is Chinese it must mean the Chinese government wants all of our data, something the US could *never*

Yeah, it is stupid, but I can understand that European and American institutions and corporations won't take the risk.

You didn't watch the video did you

Imagine being this ignorant and proud

@@andreasplosky8516 which is why it was understandable when they banned it in government. But in the whole country?

You might be just raided by heavily armed swat teams.

arrested for being a russian spy /s

Midori?

@@DallasIsRokkoSMidori Kuma is the name of the green bear Kaspersky uses in their ads 😂

@@TheChillee which is literally "green bear" in Japanese

ESET is Slovak. Bitdefender is Romanian. Both antivirus products are among the best on the market and are part of the European Union. So are G Data (Germany) and F-Secure (Finland). The US may do the same thing it fears from Russia with Kaspersky: abuse companies and customers that use anti-malware solutions from US companies. McAfee, Nortonlifelock (including Norton, Avira, Avast/AVG and Bullguard), Fortinet, Malwarebytes, Panda, VIPRE, Total Defense, eScan. They're all owned by US companies now.

The solution is no AV at all :)

They see no issue using USA spyware.

When people say privacy is crucial and spyware is bad when technically anything that is connected to the internet can be spied on no matter what kind of products they use lol.

I only still use Windows because Linux doesn't have great support for PC games.

@@DAN007thefoxx1 well, some you're better without, like the ones you have to use a kernel level anti-cheat.

@@ManofHalal The problem is with laws requiring back doors in the first place.

100%

Lmao Kaspersky is overrated. Compromised and overrated.

Well, not TikTok tho lol

@@user-lc7pk6zx7x Your username sounds like scammer!

Love to you from Russia

But could they help themselves from their government wanting them to be? Will the courts in Russia protect them from their government into becoming a spyware vector?

Approved by the FSB.

Thank you comrade

lol

Bitdefender is the best antivirus in the world.

Just do the opposite of what the US government tells you to do and you'll be fine.

I'm a Bitdefender subscriber and I have not had any problems with Bitdefender except, there was no notification of an upcoming automatic renewal for which they do not give you the user the ability to disable or enable. They claim that it is automatically done during the installation process, therefore removing that functionality from the user's ability to control. This means that they can withdraw funds from your account at anytime without your consent ss well charge more for their services and still withdraw funds from your account again without prior notification and your approval.

@@andrewsstuffofficial lol no it is far from it, it is good indeed but Kaspersky is waaaay better, higher performance better and faster detection

I'd like to know what work arounds could we use.

Considering it updates what feels like every day - that will be problematic

They should ban all asian faces in usa too