KastKing vs Piscifun - Which $40 Baitcasting Reel is BETTER?

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Let's compare some baitcasting fishing reels! I have the Piscifun Torrent and KastKing Royale Legend. Which one do you guys think is better for the money?
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@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

COMMENT below if you guys have used either one of these reels before! Hope you guys have a great weekend and catch lots of fish!!!

@fishing_4_donkeys344 6 жыл бұрын

lojo.fishing I agree with you, more ball bearings doesn't always mean it's better.

@gscompton1965 6 жыл бұрын

If ya really wanna have fun just take the handles apart from both reels and most *importantly take the grips off * when you take the grips off pull the bearings out(see for your self).... between the reels .....does it really matter ? you guys decide ..( for me, i thought it was cool to see the diff. ) P.S I love both the reels,But for me just my opinion i like the Kastking better. Thx and tight lines !

@arnaldobertoli1275 6 жыл бұрын

lojo.fishing your review made me subscribe, and finish made my dessition, in 5 days i should me getting my reel

@g.o.mfishing7709 6 жыл бұрын

lojo.fishing I have the torrent and I love it I have been thinking of getting a kastking but Iam really debating it

@andrewvega2605 6 жыл бұрын

lojo.fishing because of my reel they have something different sow I thing you got rong spect

@user-zw1ik3iy2c 11 ай бұрын

I spooled it with 8 LB test mono for lighter lures, gave it some practice casts and found that it did cast well kzfaq.infoUgkxSlytCJqozTF7EbdP4LWP-HUXf9WRDJ0e , except that the anti-backlash setting had to be turned up almost all of the way to keep the "overcasts' ' down. I disassembled it, and found that if I potted some "shim washers" behind that anti-backlash magnet assembly, it got the magnets closer to the spool without rubbing, and I could get better control with about a 6 to 7 out out 10-Max setting. I also noticed that the handle shaft had some internal end play, maybe only 2 or 3 thousands of an inch, but it's still noticeable. If the anti-backlash and shaft tolerances were "tightened up" this would be a fantastic value. I've only used it for 4 days of fishing in a month's time, but I plan on keeping it.

@wifisherman4 6 жыл бұрын

The fact the Torrent casts better than the Royale with half the bearings speaks for Piscifun in general. I own 6 Torrents and am having a hard time using any other reel. Piscifun is the real King.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+JGood Fishing nice!!!

@psych-op5lz 4 жыл бұрын

Lol, thanks for making me laugh

@shanegibson7163 6 жыл бұрын

blowup in the background at 3:20

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Shane gibson probably a gar lol

@dinoharrison5138 6 жыл бұрын

GREAT fishing eye Shane. I was beginning to think I was the only one!

@TeamRippnLipz1 6 жыл бұрын

Shane gibson I was just gonna say that lol

@colegerber5532 6 жыл бұрын

Shane gibson I saw the same thing

@jacoblooney1694 5 жыл бұрын

Wow

@davidhafner4089 6 жыл бұрын

have a torrent got it when they first appeared I live in Florida have caught over 50 Spanish Mack’s already on this real plus a few doll head shark great drag capability I am 70 years old have fished penn Reels all my life hard to believe the quality of these reels thank you for great video

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

wow that's awesome!!!

@3ktor 6 жыл бұрын

I wasn’t sure what beginner baitcaster to use, but after watching reviews like this one i went with the piscifun

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Héctor Vega Rivera nice! Glad I could help

@seabass22 5 жыл бұрын

Héctor Vega how’s it holding up? I have a black max, but need another baitcaster setup.

@smooveb191 5 жыл бұрын

@@seabass22 hows the black max i was looking at that at walmart last night?

@bry954rr 6 жыл бұрын

Bought the piscifun torrent and it feels like a $200 baitcaster. The brakes are excellent, the clicking spool tensioner and the oversized handle makes it an awesome reel. Going to buy another one and pair it with the kastking royale legend rod. Cant wait to get it.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+bry954rr great input man

@BledJ73 6 жыл бұрын

Does it still feeling like a $200 dollar bait caster? Mine went downhill real quick.

@Eric.schmidt 6 жыл бұрын

Bought my 12 year old son and myself the Piscifun this summer. We both love them. Super smooth and casts very easy. My 12 year old can out cast me with his, often cast plastics without any added weight. He cast with great distance with light or heavy lures

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+e schmidt nice to know 👍

@Piscifun 6 жыл бұрын

+ e schmidt Great to know that, hope you enjoy more time together in the future! Go with family!

@rafaelcampbell9808 4 жыл бұрын

Your videos are always awesome. I picked up the torrent and wouldn’t have even given it a try if it weren’t for this video. Thank you so much I am loving it

@jennifermcmillan9518 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I’ve been watching a million vids on these two and this was the most helpful.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I could help

@bobbygeneperry2589 6 жыл бұрын

i am one of those researching wich reel to buy. thank you for your valuable information. and the time and effort you put into your video.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed

@waynewheat9635 Жыл бұрын

I just received my torrent today and was comparing the same two reels on Amazon last night. I chose the piscifun. It seems to be sturdy and well made. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks for the video. You have a new subscriber.

@913upsnav 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the non bias review. I've been looking at both those reels and was leaning towards the Piscifun.

@lojofishing 5 жыл бұрын

@jartur2631 6 жыл бұрын

Most of my life I've been an Abu Garcia fan since 40 years ago, I was never satisfied with Shimano and Daiwa reels performance. When the phantom came up to the market I was hesitating about geting it. First tought was it may be a good backup reel. After watching your video I decided to go for it. Once in my hands I was really surprised, the look, the quality, the lightnes, the performance, I understand that the ball-bearings are Japan made. And is so cheap! It's my first chinese reel and I'm so happy with it! I only hope it lasts as much as my abus. Thanks for your advise!

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it worked out for you

@BledJ73 6 жыл бұрын

Here is my experience - I went with the Piscifun for my first baitcaster because of this video. Out of the box and in the yard practicing, it was beyond my expectations. I was thrilled. Then I took it fishing. First two trips out, again, I loved it and was agreeing with all the hype about it performing like a reel that cost $100 or more. After the third trip, the retrieve became really rough, and dull grinding noise developed. Mind you, I performed maintenance on this reel after each use. After the noise developed, I stripped it down and tried greasing and oiling everything. Still was rough and noisy. Luckily I was still within the return period for Amazon. I swapped it out for the KastKing. So far, the KastKing to me feels about the same as the Piscifun did. It is the durability that I am concerned about, with any $40 reel. Not too hard to make a reel look and feel good for the first 100 casts. But the Piscifun, at least in my experience, broke down quickly. Time will tell if the KastKing is any better.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

Great input, and like you said...40 dollar reel will always have durability issues in the long run

@tvang464 3 ай бұрын

How is the kastking holding up?

@KPoutdoors 6 жыл бұрын

i own the picifun torrent and i LOVE it! This video made up my mind on which one to pick, so thank you!!

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

glad I could help

@saltygeorge1855 6 жыл бұрын

i have the picifisun torrent with picifisun branded braided 35lb line, cast pretty good. I tend to get an average of 50 to 60 yard casts from the pier with a 3 ounce lure or lead.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+OHMYGURD LOL nice! That's pretty awesome

@wesleyhunt733 6 жыл бұрын

I'm new to baitcasting. I owned a reel years ago and couldn't figure it out. I'm ready to try again after 20 years. Thank you for your video. I think I will get the Piscifun via Amazon. The oil port is why. I will let you know how I do later.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Wesley Hunt nice :)

@harcohorns 5 жыл бұрын

Without reading all the reviews, what about the braking systems? Most of us are using a $40 reel are beginners. I think the kastking has dual breaking where the torrent has just magnetic. That is a gamechanger for most when learning baitcaster. Your thoughts?

@phidalstal14 5 жыл бұрын

that second break system on the Kastking Spartacus I got really is nice! It really does help a novice like myself out while i'm trying to learn how to use a baitcaster.

@TheMasterCaster 6 жыл бұрын

I don’t have any problems with my KastKing reels on normal use, they work fantastic. They only way I’ve ever had problems with them is after abusing them like dipping them in mud (that’s a no brainer, you’d shouldn’t do that with any reel). You should review a piscifun vs KastKing spinning reel

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+TheMasterCasters you got it bro

@BEARDedOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын

Haven't used either but would like to remind folks that a faster reel is not always better. It all depends on how you plan to fish it and with which baits.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+BEARDed Outdoors very good point 👊

@Arcasting1 6 жыл бұрын

BEARDed Outdoors Totally agree, inches per turn should vary depending on the bait

@jamiebrown4507 6 жыл бұрын

yes but its easy it reel slow but reeling faster all day is terrible I always use a 7:1 or faster

@stevenmcclelland1859 5 жыл бұрын

also ball bearing count..if the bearings are placed correctly and support the gears / pinion/ structurally..you don't need as many..this 10-13 bearings all over the place just adds cost and complexity..more fail points..some pro told me anything over 8 is very excessive..i'm not a pro, but can grasp what he is saying..2 ball bearings in the handle end--just to get the count up..crazy..lol

@OrionARS 3 жыл бұрын

I've got both, and they're both really good reels for the money. I had to clean and oil both of them when I first got them tho; the torrent was whining/screaming with hard cast, and the royale legend just felt a little rough, but a little 3N1 oil made them both feel great and got rid of the "problems"

@Blaze_914 3 жыл бұрын

Wow this was my first time seeing this LOJO video and I find it ironic that LOJO is the one that got me back into fishing after like 10 years and I bought the piscifun torrent reel a few weeks ago and its my first baitcasting reel. I grew up on spinning reels. Love the content LOJO!! 👌

@christianchambers8487 6 жыл бұрын

I just bought a piscifun torrent last week and I've used it about 3 times out in the boat but I don't use it for bass I use it for my top water setup for specks and reds inshore and it has worked really well so far it cast smooth and the drag is pretty smooth but I don't know how long it will last but I really like it so far it casts just as good as my revo my orra inshore and my casitas. I recommend it

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Christian Chambers nice! Glad you are enjoying it

@Piscifun 6 жыл бұрын

+Christian Chambers Sounds great! Hope you enjoy more with it!

@brucescott1166 6 жыл бұрын

Have 2 of the Piscifun Torrents , have used one for salt water and the other for fresh, both are doing great. Very smooth with no problems. The salt water one went thru Harvey and is still working ok. Have two Kastkings , one is the 9.1-3 and I have a problem with the release button . Not that happy with either one of them.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Bruce Scott nice!!!

@Piscifun 6 жыл бұрын

+Bruce Scott Hope the Torrent can help you hook up more salwater fish!

@GM-le5ti 6 жыл бұрын

I'm very late to this post since i just started looking for a new baitcaster. Will you share how are these piscifun reels holding after several months of use? I was actually looking for a piscifun phantom and ended up in this review. I will use the reel exclusively in salt water, just like you.

@dinoharrison5138 6 жыл бұрын

I personally do not have either reel but my brother bought a Piscifun Torrent and practicing with it, I love the way it feels and casts. I am intrigued by the KastKing too. Decisions, decisions! Thank you for your honesty in going over both reels. Unfortunately you like them both. It just may come down to Heads/Tails!!! lol Take care and have a Blessed Christmas 🎄

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Dino Harrison thanks!

@cichlaguru 6 жыл бұрын

Where do i begin. All around i love the torrent reel. the castability is off the charts. eatch cast is smooth and i can cast my frog super far without putting a lot of power into a cast. its built tuff and durable.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Michael Rose Fishing great info

@thewaterox1 3 жыл бұрын

My personal experience I ordered a Piscifun Phantom and it was defective right out of the box. I have a KK Speed Demon 1st generation and I was so impressed by it I ordered a KK Spartacus Plus. The Plus seems awesome but I have only used it twice so far but it casts great so far.

@denman0621 5 жыл бұрын

Cool video. I was given the Kastking Royale Legend for my *cough* 50th birthday... This is my first baitcasting reel and the first non-spin cast reel since I was given a Zebco 202 for a MUCH earlier birthday. While I really don't have anything to compare it to, I've had fun working on getting it to cast without birdnesting. Varying success! Long story short, I like it! It's a much different feel than a spinning reel.

@THEMONVALLEYFISHERMAN 6 жыл бұрын

I love my Piscifuns. Pf-1400 sl20 destroyer and my two torrents. I love the torrent for the price. And i love the long extended handle for the torque. I love the casting also. Glad to hear it!

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@mikeviam4457 6 жыл бұрын

For that money I think they are both amazing reels. I have chosen Kastking Royale though, for the fact I like to use as light lures as possible and this new dual 7 magnets braking system on Royale seems to me to be much more effective for such lures than just plain 5 magnets on Torrent. It gives much more room for adjustments in various wind conditions, especially if one is using free running spool (the tension knob is set as light as possible as not to hinder the cast). The other thing in favor of Royale is that I don't like "horsing out" the lure but prefer nice smooth casting in which I believe the Kastking Royale Legend (and Stealth even better) is absolute champion amongs non UBF specialized castings reel of any price range that I would ever consider (buying a 300$ or more $$$ reel is just ridiculus in my opinion)! Nice way to present them both, you have got one more on your subscribtion list, though...

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

great input!!!

@DaiMasters 4 жыл бұрын

You should review the Piscifun Alijos now that it is out. 300 size reel, with a 33lb drag system.

@persdank9539 6 жыл бұрын

Lojo.fishing, I have 4 AbuGarcia, 1 Shimano caius 201 and 1 Piscifun Torrent and in my opinion Torrent is really really good, and I dont say “for the price only”.... is a good real for fishing all the time... I waiting the second one, with this guy Abu-BlackMax is history. Thanks for your videos...

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

nice input, thanks

@bigmoemedina313 6 жыл бұрын

Owned both of them, ended up returning the Kastking Stealth for a refund cause didn’t like it. I still own the Piscifun and now that I paired it with a Piscifun Torrent Rod its like a match made in heaven! Without bashing Kastking cause i own the KK Assasin and I Love it, this Piscifun reel is a beast!! I have pulled 5-6lbs LM Bass with no problem with this reel. Dragging hasn’t fail me yet. Great Video, keep it up Man, I will follow. 👍🏻👍🏻

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

wow, there you go

@stevenmcclelland1859 5 жыл бұрын

so the rod is good stuff ...any insight there...thanks

@steveshepherd1046 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. I have four of the Torrent reels and they are extremely quiet and smooth, better than another I've used.

@drjaywhitlock 3 жыл бұрын

I have the Torrent myself and for a reel made by child laborers in China I have been pleasantly pleased with the Torrent. Compared to a higher priced Piscifun and my $160 Abu reel, the Torrent is right there with both of them.

@dinoharrison5138 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the information. I have a Torrent and plan on getting a KastKing soon! From what I have heard you can't go wrong with either one. Sort of neat that you can get a really decent reel and Not spend a ton of money. I applaud both companies for thinking "out of the box" and looking out for the end users. I hope my way of thinking is they will make just as much money because people can afford to purchase more. Just my 2 cents. Ooops, I need that money for my next purchase.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Dino Harrison haha thanks man I agree

@dasanipapi 4 жыл бұрын

@lojo amazing how this video has held up over the years. I'm looking for my first BC reel and was stuck between the 2 (Royal Legend 2 and updated Torrent). This was easily the most informed review I've come across, and while I was already leaning towards the Torrent, this sealed the deal. Do you feel like the Torrent still outperforms the Royal Legend, or has KastKing rebounded?

@mxfreak117 4 жыл бұрын

@lojo I’m also curious about this? Does the torrent still out perform the royal legend 2 in your opinion?

@dasanipapi 4 жыл бұрын

@@mxfreak117 my Torrent just came in yesterday. I'm thinking about going out for a few in a bit. If I do, I'll definitely let you know how it goes. I'm probably going to end up buying a Royal Legend as well, so I should have an honest answer to this in a week or so...

@mxfreak117 4 жыл бұрын

Kyle Johnson thanks!

@hm2mahoney 6 жыл бұрын

Never had a bait caster but going to try the piscifun for the first time . Hey don't bash the guy for his hair style (said in the comments ) he is a die hard fisherman. It's a great community to belong to.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+hm mahoney true that! Thanks 👊👊👊

@jamesqueen115 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting this type of video out. I do not own either one but I have been looking at getting a new reel but don't want to spend 100 dollars on one. Pleases keep doing these type of videos. they are helpful. Thanks again for what you are doing for the sport. Tight lines

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+James Queen no problem. Glad I could help

@kingzionaahluminhaa3604 6 жыл бұрын

I own then both and I find that the Piscfun cast better, but when it comes to backlashes. The Kastking backlash is less often and there much easier to get out compared to Piscfun. Sorry but I love all my Kastking products I like Piscfun too. I just like Kastking more over all even over my Diawa reels.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+KingZion Aahluminhaa sounds like a fair and honest opinion to me :)

@dennisnicholson952 6 жыл бұрын

From what I have seen on some of the KZfaq videos, that I've watched, where a KastKing baitcasting reel is used, the person invariably likes it. I have also seen favorable reviews on their spinning reels like the Sharky ll and lll. Contrariwise, I haven't seen too much said, good or bad about Piscifun reels; not that there's anything bad about them. I like it when guys like you do reviews like this so I can learn more. As an aside, Piscifun also makes some real nice fishing tools such as hook removers, etc.. They also have a beautiful fishing backpack for $84.95 on Amazon.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

glad you enjoyed

@jamesqueen115 6 жыл бұрын

I do have a question. Really how important is the retrieval rate? I see all these fast retrieval rates and they are all over the board. Just wandering what difference does it make.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+James Queen of say it's fairly important for me, but not that important for other people. For most types of lures, the higher the gear ratio the better. But honestly it's not that big of a deal

@GMan-Pierce 6 жыл бұрын

I have the Piscifun Phantom and I love it. Might pickup a Torrent to try out. I also have a Piscifun Venom spinnig reel and it's great also.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

Great affordable reel

@dkat1108 6 жыл бұрын

Better question for me is WHO has the better customer service for cheap reels? How much effort do the offer to help when there is an issue. Another is if I send it back who or how is the shipping handled?

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

great question!

@chriswebb383 5 жыл бұрын

At that price customer service really don't matter. It's a $35 reel not a $200 Shimano

@tommwarneke396 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I’m shopping these reels, what application do you use these reels. Any chance you would use them for flipping? Thanks

@slikrik6098 6 жыл бұрын

Been using the Piscfun PF-1400 baitcaster and Venom 3000 spinning reel,which I fought a 3ft, stingray for about 15 min. did great, plenty of muscle . Fishing saltwater so far no complaints. great reels, worth the money. I will buy a KastKing to review myself, great review my man.keeping real.stay true, brother.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

very nice, thanks so much

@jeffreykwasnaza2279 4 жыл бұрын

Lojo you helped me make my decision I'm going with the torrent. Have been mulling this over for a while now. Looking at the torrent 7'6" heavy for a frog and flipping set up any thoughts? All ready picked up the abu garcia Black Max 7' medium heavy for basically multi-function set up chatter baits ,spinner baits,jigs how are my choices?

@tonykillinger8534 4 жыл бұрын

I've got both reels and I agree with you, the Piscifun is the better reel. The no. 1 reason for my choice is the "oil" port on the PCF. I fish salt water and that ability to lubricate the reel without having to dismantle it is a big deal for me. And you're right, it has a better, smoother cast.

@redjacket8499 4 жыл бұрын

I have not used these specific models, but a have a piscifun chaos 60 conventional baitcast and love it. A buddy of mine only uses Abu 6500s and said he loves my piscifun.

@jihlnabaat6329 4 жыл бұрын

3:20 there is this huge fish, great video!

@mattsloan32 6 жыл бұрын

I bought the torrent for a beach caster thinking if it dies I am not losing much money and it had great reviews (although most of them mentioned "this is my first baitcaster") . It has been on 5 saltwater trips so far, always rinsed with fresh water at the end of the day and is still working like new. Only caught a few small fish on it so drag has not been tested. The bigger bites just happened to be on spinning reels. For what it costs I think it a great reel. I plan to take it on my paddle board btb. If I get dunked and happen to lose it what am I out of? Just buy another. I have never tested kastking so I cannot make a comparison.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

very good point

@DEBOSFishing 6 жыл бұрын

I've only used the Royale Legend but loved it. It's a steal of a reel for $39!

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+DEBO'S Fishing true that

@bhogeke1330 5 жыл бұрын

I saw your review then I bought the Piscifun Phantom reel from Amazon and when I received it I put 30lb braided line onto the reel the line did not sit properly on the spool. The line was off to one side. The reel was obviously defective. The next day I contacted Piscifun customer service about the problem and they asked me to take pictures of the line on the reel and send it to them, which I did. Then they asked me if I could disassemble the reel and replace a some washer, I did not want to disassemble change out parts. So, I Asked if I could exchange my defective Phantom reel for a properly working reel. Piscifun asked me to ship them the defective reel first and pay out of my own pocket for shipment, and they told me NOT to return the reel to Amazon. By this time I had already spent my time and fishing line and money on the Piscifun Phantom reel which arrived defective. I also missed out of fishing time. Please beware when you buy Piscifun products they are not the quality you expect, and the Piscifun is not good at customer satisfaction. I ended up returning the Piscifun Phantom reel to Amazon.

@thereelchase3157 3 жыл бұрын

Great video bro. I now know that new casting reel to add to my arsenal

@xOPER8Rx 6 жыл бұрын

I own two Torrents. They just work. I also picked up a Piscifun Warrior rod. Not bad either. The whole combo never broke a hundo.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+xOPER8Rx can't beat that

@josephnywayfarer1345 6 жыл бұрын

I own the Kastking. Awesome baitcast reels. Virtually backlash free once you set the brakes properly. In fact my speed demon won't backlash even with the brakes ignored. It's like using a spincast. More importantly the company was started by 2 guys from Syracuse University in NY so let's give some American entrepreneurs some love. Especially my fellow NY'ers!

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

true. but the reels are actually made in China....so.....lol

@takingu2skoo 6 жыл бұрын

Joseph NY Wayfarer Yay backlash least of my problems if the dam thing breaks after your oth outing and only caught 2 bass on it.

@ArizonaMMJ 6 жыл бұрын

lol...he wont be back

@marcosfigueiredo9060 6 жыл бұрын

Eu comprei uma kastking a 4 meses e infelizmente ela deu problema no recolhimento. Agora vou comprar uma piscifun pra ver se ela aguenta as pescarias no Brasil.

@gusbrown8001 5 жыл бұрын

I have them both, and love them both. They are in my experience close to equal. You are right KastKing is a cool name but the game changer for me is the precision adjustments on the Piscifun the drag and the spool tension have click stops and I like that!

@lojofishing 5 жыл бұрын

good points

@taadventures6312 3 жыл бұрын

Trying to decide on one Of these. Do you still pick piscifun over KK? Thanks.

@logandick6096 6 жыл бұрын

I love that u actually picked one that was better I hate when people compare 2 things and then don't tell me wich is better

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

lol I know right

@wahoohoo6864 5 жыл бұрын

While i respect your opinion, especially since you have used both of these reels and I haven't used either. I don't see how you can call the weight of each a draw when one is over 5% heavier but call the retrieve ratio an advantage when it is less than 1% different. Also, it is my opinion that only the spool bearings are involved in castability. Can you tell us if the additional ball bearings in the KastKing are noticeable on the retrieve at all? I am also curious if they both have the same brake system. Thank you for the review.

@donrather8908 4 жыл бұрын

i just ordered a piscifun to replace my pinnacle lp100 ive been throwing for over ten years cant wait to try it out on my 5'6" cherrywood

@noneyadamnbidness2920 3 жыл бұрын

This video is awesome, I watched because I'm looking to get a baitcaster again. Starting with a good budget reel. Still not sure though. Phantom X ? Torrent? Legend GT? Valiant Eagle? General use would be bass/crappie/walleye but we do have striper and gar in the river here.

@Saltyscales 5 жыл бұрын

I used a KK reel for 15 minutes and have never picked up another. I agree with your findings 100%.

@lojofishing 5 жыл бұрын

Nice

@TheCamoKoreanFishingTV 5 жыл бұрын

I've had the royale legend for over 3 yrs. In the beginning it was great, but the last year of owning it has been giving me issues. The spool tensioner always comes loose which causes backlashes and the handle wobbles a little bit, but it could be just my particular baitcaster. I just recently purchased the torrent which replaced the kastking. Heard many good things and knee of my fishing buddies owns one and recommended it

@lojofishing 5 жыл бұрын

good to know

@josegelabert4140 5 жыл бұрын

I have the Piscifun Torrent and I love that reel but I also just bought a Kastking Royale Legend on EBay for a great deal and waiting for its arrival. Honestly from the videos and reviews that I've seen. I have high hopes for this reel. Can't wait....

@lojofishing 5 жыл бұрын

Cool

@averagejoehunter2770 5 жыл бұрын

ordered my kastking legend today from amazon. it'll be my first bait caster, can't wait

@lojofishing 5 жыл бұрын

Nice

@Valarauko 5 жыл бұрын

I picked up the torrent. Got it today and I can't wait to test it out. Seems far superior than what else I've seen so far. What braided lines do you use? I'm looking at their so far and might just use it for some Salmon fishing up here in the great PNW. :)

@FishingPOV 6 жыл бұрын

Nice review Piscifun contacted me so I wanted to check out some vids on their products.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

nice!!!

@pierceforrester3890 6 жыл бұрын

Dang dude that's sick

@clamboni9 6 жыл бұрын

Bearing count has no effect on casting performance. There's only 2-3 bearings on the spool, depending on the reel design. Those arw the only ones that affect casting.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say number has nothing to do with it, but I understand your point

@clamboni9 6 жыл бұрын

lojo.fishing Whether there's 4+1 or 11+1 only 3 touch the spool shaft. All of the others don't turn during a cast. There's a few exceptions with reels that have a bushing replacing one of the spool shaft bearings. Also some that have a shorter spool shaft, so only two. Also of note, I just bought a piscifun phantom, and the inside diameter of the bearing under the cast control cap is larger than the shaft so the shaft just spins inside it without contacting the bearing.

@alvinwine5665 5 жыл бұрын

The bearing placement has more to do with the overall performance and stability and smoothness of the reel the more bearings one has makes the reel more stable for the long run over time my other reels with less bearings get sloppy on performance while my reels with more bearings stays smooth longer over time you will find that out.

@trentbonner4342 5 жыл бұрын

I have a Spartacus from KastKing and I really like how smooth it is. Also they are about double the price but the shimano slx and the daiwa cr80 are pretty good reels for the money.

@SOFishing 6 жыл бұрын

Good honest review. I have not used the Piscifun reels, but I do actually own the Royale Legend reel and that was the first baitcaster from KastKing I ever bought from them. That was about 2 1/2 years ago and even using it a few times inshore to catch flounder (of course after saltwater use a good cleaning is required) is still like new. As far as casting the Legend it can be a little bit tricky to cast if not set up properly. But once you get it dialed in it casts like a dream. Tip for you, pop the left side plate off push in switches 1 & 3 to the center, put the side plate back on and turn your outer brake to about 8 or 8.5 and then set your tension control knob to the bait you are using and that should have you casting a lot better.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Southern Outdoors Fishing great input

@BledJ73 6 жыл бұрын

This is one of the things I like about the KastKing. Although it takes a little longer to dial in, it is nice to have that option. I have 2 and 4 on the centrifugal pushed in, and set the outer brake to 8. Using 35 lb braid, I have no issues with backlashes at all.

@Red_Horizon 6 жыл бұрын

I own a torrent. Cast great, smooth, brass main gear, hardly to backlash, easy to use, sturdy body etc. Only 1 downside from me bout this reel, the drag is sticky. Need to rub some reel grease to smooth it up.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

Great info

@n2sky2 4 жыл бұрын

I have them both, like them the same, but I do like the piscifun poles so far. Going to order a kastking pole in the future. Enjoy your post keep them going!

@billywilliams3800 4 жыл бұрын

hey lojo , i just bought the Piscifun torrent on amzon , cast me 54.99 can. lol really can't wait to try it out . putting it on my ulgy stick Elite . with 15pd stren Mono ? hopefuly this is a nice rod to put it on and a good setup . what are you thoughts ??

@caliyak_fishing 6 жыл бұрын

Can you look at the parts diagram and locate all 11 bearings? How many in the handle or knobs, in the reel, spool and side plate? Did you pitch and flip with both, your thoughts?

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Caliyak Fishing I'll have to go back and check that out

@caliyak_fishing 6 жыл бұрын

Just to let you know, you will find 4-6 bearing in the knobs/handle. I don't have the Kast King but I have found that in other reels with large amounts of bearings. Which is best for pitching and flipping?

@lndwhr Жыл бұрын

I have owned a Piscifun Torrent for about 3 years. It is a once-a-year muskie reel for me (despite the fact that it is not intended for muskie.) My buddy said it's a great reel for the price and at that price you can get a new one every few years when it wears out. It has been rock solid for me. I love the low profile and the thing casts like a champ. (80 Power Pro braid + 100 lb fluorocarbon leader and muskie lures.) I'm due to get a new one this year, but part of me thinks I can get another season out of it. Was looking at the Kast King, but after watching the video and my own experience, I am likely to stay with the Piscifun. (Plus you get a 10% discount.) Thanks for the Video LOJO. Rock them Bass!

@redline870 6 жыл бұрын

Just bought a Piscifun Torrent for my first baitcaster, pairing it with a budget Lew's Speed Stick. Figured I'd start with budget stuff to make sure I can use it! Reel feels unbelievably smooth and well made for the price I'm impressed. I'm curious on your claims about casting distance, if the amount of bearings in the Kastking might actually be a downside. Assuming the bearings are the same grade, say abec 5 for example, then more bearings would mean more friction... just a thought.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

yeah there's a lot that goes into it all, but that sounds like a solid budget combo

@devilslair3715 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info was looking into trying out my first bait caster

@Fred-1975 6 жыл бұрын

I have a KK Royale Legend, it's alright, I can't say I wouldn't buy another but compared to a few Daiwa's I have they don't even come close. I am curious if the newer model KK's are a little more refined now? My Royale is about 1.5yrs old, still works fine but it only see action on a frog rod that where I'm at isn't all that often used.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

good input man

@shorefisher9148 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet video brotha looking to try out the baitcaster style reel I appreciated our sharing the knowledge

@shorefisher9148 3 жыл бұрын

You sharing the knowledge not our

@stewartcairns4084 4 жыл бұрын

I bought the Torrent and was so impressed I also bought the bigger Piscifun Alijos which I want to use for Musky .

@Rookie_bass_fisherman 2 ай бұрын

So I didn’t get the royal legend 2 I went with the crixus and I really enjoyed it. I had to send the first one back bc i felt grinding right away but the second one I still use today

@LiamDCoughlan 3 жыл бұрын

Looking to buy a cheap reel to match a new rod I’m buying and the piscifun was in my top 3 choices. Informative video I’ll take the info and watch a couple more reviews and make a decision 👍🏼

@JSTisIONIC 5 жыл бұрын

I have and fish both brands of reels and overall pisicfun is my go to. put my piscifun thunder through hell and back and is still my best reel. Love your videos keep it up.

@lojofishing 5 жыл бұрын

thanks so much

@Listermintsluesh 6 жыл бұрын

don't have the royale but do have the Spartacus. it's very nice. I'm having probs throwing out lighter lures and not sure if it's my rod or what. rod rated 10 to 30 g. also I'm confused as to the adjustment of both the internal brake and external magnetic braking that the Spartacus has. not seen any vid that explains these functions with complete articulation or authority.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

nice input

@mosicnflowmuasyaj9748 6 жыл бұрын

Haven't tried ether one but I did purchased the piscifun elite and it's makes a loud noise when casting hard

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+Qaibstreetline Asianredneck hmmm, might be the bearings

@kzookid2051 6 жыл бұрын

Good video; the point-by-point comparison was very helpful.

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

@roberthughes8355 Жыл бұрын

what is the largest fish that you could go for with this reel (Torrent)?

@coltonbanks6539 6 жыл бұрын

What's a good Texas rig setup that's inexpensive. Such as bait, rod, reel, hook, line, and weight

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

Man that's a tough one, I'll have to do a separate video on that lol

@FOG_3 4 жыл бұрын

I own both (KK speed demon & a Torrent) and they both work equally well....The test will be on the durability over time

@solid_fsg_4874 2 жыл бұрын

So any conclusion on the durability??

@TheBraps 6 жыл бұрын

I know this is an older video but I am just getting back into fishing and started with the Lew's American Hero bait caster combo. I am looking to add some different combos. With me having Lew's here in my town I think I just might stick to their brand. I am looking for something that I can really chuck a lure waaaay out there. I know you are a Lew's guy so just asking which one you think that you can really send it a country mile?

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

my LFS still casts a mile and it's only $100

@craigcampbell2687 4 жыл бұрын

Question. Aren't internal ball bearings for retrieving not casting

@makcatchem9614 6 жыл бұрын

I own both. Both are great in the price point of those reels. the torrent is better imo just for the handle size. Although I love a larger crank and I own the KK speed demon. 9.3.1. Super fast but only 13.5lbs drag. But what blew my mind is you can cast that a country mile and had a larger crank as well. Imo the over all brand would be KastKing

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

great input

@cashsimard4067 3 жыл бұрын

i my favorit bait caster i have ever used is the abu garcia black maax but i fish in maine which the water down here is colder so the fish dont get as big

@joshrebel00 6 жыл бұрын

I bought a piscifun Torrent, for 40 dollars is a GREAT reel. It holds up great to sight casting some big redfish

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

glad you had a good experience

@jonathanjonathan2588 6 жыл бұрын

Well im looking to get one of this reels but im fishing only at salt water and doing lots of jigging I havent made up my mined yet.... Any inputs will be greatly appreciated

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

+JONATHAN JONATHAN well you saw what I had to say

@jamiebrown4507 6 жыл бұрын

I really would like to know what rod are people using. What would you say is the best brand of Rod to get to keep your rods under $40 or let's say $50 that's more realistic for a rod

@lojofishing 6 жыл бұрын

abu garcia vengeance ALL DAY man!!!

@stevenmcclelland1859 5 жыл бұрын

try wallyworld...lews speed stick hank parker / 7ft med/hvy / IM8 graphite..fast action..best 39.99 rod ...really ...other models also 39.99..were...still? not long ago anyway..you know prices always DROP at wallyworld...lol