Kate talks about her on-set relationship with Jeri. Filmed at the 2012 Star Trek Convention in London
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@freowyn6415 Жыл бұрын
Their relationship has since improved a lot and Mugrew has apologized and taken full responsibility for the way she behaved. Just in case anybody wanted to know and wasn't aware! People grow and learn and change, and personally I think while obviously her behaviour towards Jeri wasn't okay, her frustration about the situation in general was very understandable.
@GamingMuchTerry Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with all you've said.
@Frozenfan1965 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but she shouldn't have punished Jeri for something that wasn't her fault. What did she expect from a male dominant franchise? Not to mention she's of Irish decent, and a ginger to boot. They're known for their "aggressive" temperament.
@-108- Жыл бұрын
@@Frozenfan1965 Did you not read the comment you responded to? "...Mugrew has apologized and taken full responsibility for the way she behaved." "People grow and learn and change, and personally I think while obviously her behaviour towards Jeri wasn't okay..." Your reply just completely dismisses the content of the comment. You just love conflict and hate forgiveness.
@jasonturner2206 Жыл бұрын
@@Frozenfan1965 you win the award for most idiotic comment on the internet, well done..
@bigred8432 Жыл бұрын
@Frozenfan1965 Racist much?
@umpus2 жыл бұрын
This makes me sad. They seemed to have such a lovely relationship on the show.
@craigrussell3062 Жыл бұрын
It's as old as Hollywood. The same thing that makes people amazing actors also makes them thin-skinned narcissists who spin up drama and conflict with each other on set over nothing because they want attention. If they weren't the kind of people who did this instinctively without even meaning to, they wouldn't be the amazing actors that carried the show.
@umpus Жыл бұрын
@@craigrussell3062 Kate wasn't anything special in my eyes.
@bluedale6563 Жыл бұрын
She was a monster to Jeri on the show
@leif10753 жыл бұрын
I think after this she warmed up to Jeri more right and even apologized for how she treated her sometimes on set?
@datacipher2 ай бұрын
Link? When did this happen and what was the context?
@MrBlazinerday Жыл бұрын
The entire cast was put into a tough situation. 7 of 9 was popular and the people in charge wanted to capitalize off of the thirsty fans. In doing so the show became mostly about 7 of 9 for the rest of the show.
@Dancestar1981 Жыл бұрын
Exactly at the expense of the entire cast nobody was happy yet they blame Kate
@pathevermore3683 Жыл бұрын
I hate it for the rest of the crew, but thirty producers inadvertently created the most fleshed out and interesting characters of the entire franchise in 7 of 9.
@MrBlazinerday Жыл бұрын
@@pathevermore3683 her character was interesting but she wasnt the only borg character the show introduced. She was simply the only female in a skin tight suit showing off a fitness model body. Lets be honest , the trek fandom is a lonely one…
@pathevermore3683 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBlazinerday "wasn't the only borg introduced" i didn't say she was. "let's be honest" speak for yourself, i have happily married to another trekie for 16 years.
@MrBlazinerday Жыл бұрын
@@pathevermore3683 what i meant to say is, many of the fans supported her because of her looks. There were other characters with a good borg backstory but non had her special skintight uniform. thats why she was so popular. I understand the comments section is a hostile place but i wasnt trying to insult you.
@jonathanfarley202310 ай бұрын
A very detailed and informative answer.
@MarthaMansbridge Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame Mulgrew was so mean to Jeri for so many years - it’s reflects on her character. Sure, Jeri was younger but Kate was a young actress once too - Kate was only 40 when she joined Voyager - Jeri is 55 in Picard Season 3 and does a great job. Kate has had a lot to say about Sexism/Ageism but sadly I find most of that is woman on woman and she’s a classic example.
@nikkipaul1005 ай бұрын
Jeri knew exactly what she was doing especially when she decided to start sleeping with the boss that gave her everything she wanted on & off the screen.
@pr-tj5by3 ай бұрын
@@nikkipaul100 The show was much better the moment she turned up and it's backed up by the ratings!
@stevzor2 жыл бұрын
Kate was not too happy about that question there lol.
@daniellownie6237 Жыл бұрын
I think because it’s asked so often and she has answered it so many times. She is just done
@orellaminx3530 Жыл бұрын
The animosity Kate must have felt was somewhat understandable. Serious actor, first female captain, suddenly pulling lines along side what was essentially eye candy. Could Kate have handled it better? Sure, but I also think that real tension made the two characters better. Jeri had something to prove and she ended up creating a phenomenal character in Seven. Patrick Stewart had similar tensions with his cast mates because of his acting backlground.
@erinocelotl3578 Жыл бұрын
Wait what with Patrick Stewart?
@Riley_Mundt Жыл бұрын
@@erinocelotl3578 Stewart was going full Shakespearian actor in Season One of TNG and insisting that the cast not fool around or make jokes between takes. At some point, a director for one of the episodes complained that the cast was goofing around too much, and Stewart had a "chat" with the rest of the cast about their behavior. Denise Crosby at one point said "can't we have a little fun", to which Patrick responded "who said it's supposed to be fun?" After he said that, Stewart realized how much of a killjoy he was being and started to lighten up, eventually becoming one of the biggest jokesters amongst the TNG cast. The director who complained would not return for future episodes, and the cast got along just fine with all the future directors.
@Meanie74 Жыл бұрын
@@Riley_Mundtisn’t there a whole particularly bad episode that’s ended up being Patrick Stewart and the man who plays data laughing all night
@canalesworks12474 ай бұрын
@@Meanie74 "Masks" wherein Data's personality istaken over as he puts on various masks in an anciet temple. At the end he is the "Goddess of the Moon" and Picard is the "God of the Sun". Gay enough to be a Broadway musical, which evidently was not lost on eithr of them.
@bluedale6563 Жыл бұрын
l heard Kate Bullied Jeri on set from DAY 1 so much Jerri came close to Quitting
@nikkipaul1005 ай бұрын
Jeri was sleeping with the boss and had more power than all the cast. She got all the screentime, stories & most of the cast were afraid to say shit incase they got fired. Also kes was pretty much fired because she wasn't hot enough for the males.
@brandihamilton2724 ай бұрын
@@nikkipaul100 And Jeri was apparently late to work pretty much every day. Kate, being the consummate professional, did not tolerate that well.
@pr-tj5by3 ай бұрын
@@brandihamilton272 Funny how no cast members have said this about her
@discobolos42277 ай бұрын
I am not 100% sure, but this is from 2012, so I think that this had still been long before they, Kate and Jeri, reconciled and made amendments.
@leif10753 жыл бұрын
Why did she think peoplendidnt understand what she's saying..wasnt this in London with English speakers..or was ot the apples and oranges expression?
@good_teanice_house67893 жыл бұрын
I'm more of a cucumbers and pear person so I'm totally confused 😕 lol 😆
@trekkiejunk3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they understood the question, but her answer was so vague and hurried, it was clearly a dodge. Even someone who doesn't know the show or anything about the feud would immediately know a lot of shit went down, after hearing her answer to that question.
@leif10752 жыл бұрын
@@trekkiejunk I heard that she apologized to Jeri at some point I guess after this and I think and hope they are good now right?
@leif10758 ай бұрын
@trekkiejunk what does she mean by apples and oranges?
@collaborativedataaccounts324911 ай бұрын
Mulgrew apologizes and everyone forgives her. Meanwhile Shatner is still pilloried.
@bernardo9452 Жыл бұрын
Kate handled the question very well. I also liked her answer. " its apples and oranges"
@Machinu5 Жыл бұрын
Eh. Not so sure. This was not a terribly classy answer given the history. We all live and learn and grow as other commenters have posted, it's OK to say so.
@-108- Жыл бұрын
@@Machinu5 Agreed... except for the "not" sure part. I am sure her answer was dismissive of a situation over which she had not yet completely gotten. This was 2012, though; over a decade ago. She likely hadn't processed it all and grown from it when this was recorded.
@Machinu5 Жыл бұрын
@108 Hey man, take it up with Bernardo who thought she handled the question very well 🤣
@-108- Жыл бұрын
@@Machinu5 Ok - Good call. Hey, Bernardo! I'd like to have a word with you about Janeway.
@bigred8432 Жыл бұрын
‘Apples and oranges’ is an exceptionally classy response. People are obsessed with workmates being best friends when it’s not the case in reality
@bguenther6304 Жыл бұрын
Mulgrew was annoying. Ryan was wonderful.
@august7535 Жыл бұрын
Mulgrew was a role model, Ryan was brought in as sexualized eye candy. You would be pissed too if you were trying to change the social perception of women in media only to have someone who was dating one of the lead writers and producers come in and completely betray those ideals.
@bguenther6304 Жыл бұрын
@@august7535 That, or Mulgrew was just irritating, while Ryan was most interesting......a Spok-like character.
@bguenther6304 Жыл бұрын
@@august7535 That, or Mulgrew was an irritating character. Ryan was more of a Spok like character.
@iyziejane Жыл бұрын
@@august7535 The real sexism is assuming Seven was primarily there as eye-candy. Her role in the recent ST: Picard show is proof of how much fans like her character (since in her 50s Jeri is still beautiful but no longer serving up sexy tight outfits). I'm a fan who considers Seven to be easily the best Voyager cast member, and I wish her outfits in the show had been less gratuitous - I'm sure many viewers felt the same.
@canalesworks12474 ай бұрын
@@iyziejane She's still in pretty snug outfits on Picard. Honestly as a "purile, disgusting, older straight man" I don't see why a woman can't both sexy and a strong actress at the same time. I'm not going to be a hypocrite about sex appeal. That's one ofher gifts. Nothing wrong with her using it as part of her package as a performer. I don't find Kate to be annoying, and I do like the series. It's aged well, in some ways better than TNG. That being said Seven of Nine really boosted the series, and Jeri Ryan performed the role perfectly, giving us a unique character.
@AJ-773 жыл бұрын
An early radical femicrazy ofended with the Jeri beauty.
@scattysafari77423 жыл бұрын
I'm an ardent feminist and the same age as Jeri. And I love her. I think she is so talented as well as beautiful. I know Kate's behavior was terrible, but I feel sorry for her. Imagine if you were Patrick Stewart and suddenly Jonathan Frakes got all the storylines while being shirtless all the time to appeal to women in a way Patrick could not. It would hurt. I mostly blame the producers, who sacked Jennifer Lien, (which didn't help as she was loved by the cast) and did nothing to soothe Kate's insecurities. You're the star and they make a big deal of the first female captain and then they bring in an insanely beautiful younger woman who can sing and act and is given better story lines?Ouch !Jeri was also dating Brannon Braga at the time so it must have felt like nepotism.It was a shitty situation and unfair to both women. I can understand Kate venting at home, but taking it out on Jeri was inexcusable. We women should follow the bros and lift each other up. Kate at least has apologized for her shitty treatment of Ryan.They seem to be on good terms now.
@187onasimp3 жыл бұрын
Voyager was boring and forgettable without Jeri Ryan because the characters weren't written very well. They were all bland and unforgettable. Seven of Nine was the only unique one with an intriguing story. Capt. Janeway was simply boring. There's nothing interesting about a pants suit captain with the personality of a DMV receptionists. That's not even fun to watch and you couple that in with other predictably bland characters. She should have wised up and realize that the show was taking a hit in the ratings because no one was interested in watching Hilary Clinton in space. We wanted to watch a fun sci show and Seven of Nine did just that. She had a cool personality and a cool story plus she had the sex appeal to keep you glued to the screen. Her character is the ONLY reason people remember Voyager because she made it fun to watch. Janeway just didn't have much of a personality outside of being Captain and female and that went for pretty much every character on that show.
@trekkiejunk3 жыл бұрын
Is that actually a serious comment?
@ssssssssssssssssss502 жыл бұрын
@@scattysafari7742 actually Patrick Stewart was the one looking good shirtless and is still in great shape. Johnathan Frakes by his own admission was never slim
@sailbatten20562 жыл бұрын
I love the character Seven, but I can see cast members getting initially miffed at a hyper sexed up blonde bombshell with artificially stand up boobs and accented ass crack potentially throttling back the integrity of the show. But the character certainly was written incredibly well.
@johnblackhead2384 Жыл бұрын
Kate made it horrible for Jeri to work there. Why? Because 7 is hot and Janeway is not. It’s still true today.
@collaborativedataaccounts324911 ай бұрын
Basically it's what it boils down to.
@jonathanfarley202310 ай бұрын
The irony is that while Mulgrew was not "hot", she was attractive.
@collaborativedataaccounts324910 ай бұрын
@@jonathanfarley2023 That's true. But Mulgrew allowed envy to away at her like a canker.
@nikkipaul1005 ай бұрын
That's not it. All the cast had worked their asses of for years & instead of actually fixing the problems with the writing & producers. They fired the Jennifer lien because she wasn't hot for the fanboys. Wong nearly got fired too, but found out before hand & had his manger do some deals to raise his profile. Also, Jeri Ryan was sleeping with the head writer & producer and that made things 100 times more difficult on the show. All the actors were all unhappy, but the moment Jeri started sleeping with the boss most of the actors went quiet & just got their paychecks. Jeri Ryan knew what her role was and loved it & used it. So this whole Jeri is ridiculous. Why she is playing victim is a mystery, but then that how actresses like her act.
@johnblackhead23845 ай бұрын
@@nikkipaul100 Say whatever you like but Mulgrew has admitted that she treated Ryan like shit. It’s called jealousy.