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I've watched 1000 router videos. This is the first time I've ever seen a safety pin and its use. Thanks for this video.

That’s the 1st time I’ve seen a video where grain direction and routing has been explained. It amazes me in these video how great craftsmen with years of experience rout against the grain when they don’t need to

I watched this four years ago when it came out. I just got a monster compression bit. Kinda like the one you show. I’m a bit intimidated LOL. But excited to use it. It’s funny how even though I’ve seen this video… and I’ve learned so much since then… I’m still learning more as I watch this again. It just makes more sense now as I have more experience. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you so much. You have no idea how helpful this and your other related videos are. Jonathan, you are a prince of the common man...!

Very clear instructional style. I like how you don’t talk down to your audience. Keep it up. 👍

Building an Adirondack chair for EXAMPLE … I have determined exactly where my fasteners need to go when assembling the chair. The plus now is... I don't need tape for routing. *I simply counter sink a screw through the existing hole in the template and into the piece of wood. *I visit my local hardware store and ask for "scrap" plexiglass/acrylic and pay pennies on a dollar. I use them for templates. *I draw my outline onto the piece of wood... then remove the screws and set aside the valuable template. *I can now with confidence, cut as close to the outline as possible without endangering a template. *Afterwards, I realign the template using those same screw holes to the lumber and begin safely routing. *When routing is complete, I remove the screws and then use those holes for my fasteners for assembly. Of course, if you are using larger fasteners, simply drill out a larger hole. *I love the acrylic/plexi because the shape stays true after countless uses... and... if you accidently drop a template on the floor as I have, it doesn't dent like a wood type template would. *happy routing!

So thankful I found this. Helped a lot with what I’m doing wrong. I am new at this so I know things happen but that tear out sucks ..

Your video is such good reminder. To do and not To do. Please do more videos for us... thank you big guy, at the end of the day I can still count to 10 on my fingers. With both eyes open!!! Bob

Awesome vids Jon. Just wanna say bought your Katz Moses dovetail jig and absolutely love it. Anyone interested in doing dovetails don’t hesitate to buy this jig. It’s is genius

Love the channel man. I don’t have many woodworking tools but I’m penny pinching and buying them up when and as I can. Goal is to have a full woodworking shop in a few years and in the meantime I just watch all I can and learn as much as I can. Appreciate your work.

This channel is the real deal thanks for showing mistakes

I learned the hard lesson of “don’t leave much to trim with the router” recently. Was like wrestling a bucking Bronco on the piece. Such good advice in this video, wish I watched this video before last weekend. Haha!

just had a terrible day templating. the double bearing bit is exactly what I needed to see

I have even sent this video to friends so that they understand the value of this technique and the way to do this safely.

Nice description, i knew a lot of it but it was a good refresher and certainly a good thorough description about feed direction vs grain direction for anyone who is a little confused about it. I had a situation with a 1/4" template bit in a table that caught like that and it also bent the shaft of the bit so it caused some INSANE vibration, so your kickback demonstration is very important. Also, I want one of those double bearing bits now.

I think I saw the wood whisper do it first but it’s blue masking tape with a drop of ca glue and it works good and comes off easy too

Great info. The close-up camera shots y'all use are way better than most on KZfaq. Have a great weekend.

Useful video. It's always worth it to spend some time watching a J-Katz production

Great video! Admittedly, I sought it out only after I had a kickback incident. Minor: I wasn't hurt and the workpiece didn't suffer any non-fixable damage. I got lucky. With your tips, I now know what I did wrong and how to more safely use my router table. Big thanks!!

A few of things: Your use of the term "safety pin" implies using it provides some sure element of safety, which it might not. Porter Cable calls it a starting pin and I prefer that terminology as that's what you use it for. You generally only need it for starting on smaller pieces, when you need to approach the bit very slowly or to help maintain control of the situation where you need to start routing one edge but not the edge perpendicular to it. Like many others here, I didn't know what it was supposed to be used for until I saw a demonstration on it at a Rockler store. It came with my Incra router lift. I use it occasionally. When I was making rail-and-stile panels, I used the starting pin a lot as those bits are huge. Visible tear out against the grain depends on the bit and the wood. Tear out cannot be eliminated, only minimized. The harder the wood, the worse it is. Going in the other direction by flipping the work piece can sometimes help, but sometimes there's no choice. Take the case of the hand grips on the leaves of a butler tray table when all sides of the hand grip need to be rounded, with and against the grain. Going slow helps but that will tend to produce router bit burn. That burn can be sanded off and repaired easier than grossly visible tear out. The flush trim bit can help produce very straight and accurate cuts in pieces that are just too long or awkward to cut on any other device. You just need a long straight edge clamped to your work piece (and any work piece needs to be secured to the work bench with at least 2 clamps). The larger the diameter of the flush trim bit the more effective and smoother the cut will be. A 1 degree cutting angle error made in a dining room table top piece 40 inches across will result in a lateral error on the far end of "only" 0.7 inches. If your table will have leaves, nothing will line up! You cannot fix this and have a clean edge with any other tool besides your hand router, trim bit and a nice straight edge. A jointer will not guarantee parallel surfaces, only straight ones. Using templates is very useful but not problem-free. The double stick tape will pull off material from it or it's not sticking well enough. If you plan to use the template a lot, applying shellac to its surface and letting it dry overnight will help the tape stick to the template better without removing template material when separating the pieces or pulling off the tape. The bearing will mar the surface of the template on repeated use. If the template is hardwood, that is best and the harder the better. Damaged template surfaces can be so-so repaired with the epoxy-type wood fillers (Bondo, etc.), but full strength takes much longer than the advertised15 minutes. Nitto tape is very expensive and you appeared to use a lot of it. I use the 3M Scotch foam double stick tape. It is less than 1/6" thick and you don't need very much of it. Two to four small pieces, 3/8", is generally all that you need. If there is any warping of the template or work piece, the paper-type double stick tape may be too thin to adequately adhere to it, so the foam tape would be definitely better. The putty knife method of separation is fine if you don't want to reuse the tape (sometimes the tape can be used more than once). It can also scratch up the taped surfaces. I use it when I can't separate the pieces just using my fingers, which is often. I avoid thin templates. MDF makes the worst templates but it's cheap and easy to work with other than the toxic, MDF dust. Plywood is not much better because the actual surface rested on by the trim bearing is only the thin, outer surfaces of the plywood.

You are very thorough with your videos. Good information. A little trick I use is to first install a larger diameter bearing on the cutter. This take a "rough" cut first. Replace the original bearing, and finish cut the piece.

The router is my favorite tool in the shop. I'm definitely going to enjoy this series.

Love your passion in explaining these procedures so well.

Wish I watched this video before I attempted to router around a jig. I made a pigs ear of it. "Nay mind" Now I know what went wrong !! Thanks very much now I can finish my garden bench with more confidence.

Just wrecked a piece due to grain direction yesterday, so I wish the weird vagaries of the Content Algorithm had offered this one up earlier. That said, thanks for the vid, will ruin fewer workpieces in the future! :D

I just started making that chair and had some issues routing that hole. I had a little tear out but it was all inside the hole and will be easy to hide. Still scary for the beginner though. Thanks for all of the amazing tips and help.

I have learned a lot from your videos and this is a new skill set I am starting to learn so thank you so much for the clear and concise instruction.

Very down to earth common sense well explained.. Thanks.

....thank YOU soooooo much !!!! kinde regards from Switzerland !!!

Man thank you sooo much Katz! I have been making handles with a straight cut bit and pattern. I keep getting the violent reactions. I finally gave up and went from bandsaw to oscillating sander, luckily with my fingers in tact.

When I worked in a cabinet shop, we used vacuum to hold the templates to our part. A vacuum pump with a little bit of tubing with plastic quick connects.

Love these videos, the amount of routering iv done still things in this videos iv never thought of. Also have to add, I never knew what the pin that came with my router table did, until now 😀

Instead of double sided tape, use painters tape on each piece - put cyanoacrylate on one piece of tape, spray the other piece of tape with accelerator, and it will hold, as long as you don't 'twist' the two pieces apart - which is perfect for when you do want to take them apart - the tape will come off easily, and if it is sticky and you are having an issue, you can twist the pieces apart. Cheers

As a newby, I love these training videos. Thanks.

Nitto tape is a similar product that works well. I use it on a desktop PCB mill. It even held down machinable wax. Like spec tape it doesn’t need much to get the job done. Scotch double sided office tape also works in a pinch IF you’re careful. It won’t re-adhere once removed and it needs more of it though.

Best video ever

Excellent video, wish I'd seen it earlier, but will be very helpful in the future.

You provide great videos and super explanations! This is all very helpful to this woodworking rookie!!! Thanks!

Thanks for a great informative video. Its great to watch something that is exactly to the point. Too many videos where the host hasn't set up their camera properly and then starts carrying on about his lunch and half way into the vid he skips all the useful stuff. Cheers Greg

When I took woodshop in junior high (as opposed to Home Ec), I tried to use a router free-hand to cut my name out. I came out so bad I chucked it into the scrap bin. I never even attempted when I took woodshop in college (yeah, BS Industrial Tech - woodshop, plastics shop, and metal shop were core electives). Now that I'm getting to the point where I just have to use a router I'm afraid whatever I do will come out jacked and wood's expensive. I been putting off finishing the cool redwood porch glider because of that fear. It's gonna be somebody's Christmas gift at this rate...

Very good, Jonathan. I for one really appreciate workshop technique videos - A LOT! So much to learn and so little time!

LOVIT , Thx’s for Sharing and Now Maybe I will be able to stop my tear outs ! Thx’s

Thank you for the tips and tricks. Cannot wait for more of your router series. The router is one of the mysterious tools in the shop that I think I am using properly but this video has shown me I am not. Looking forward to learning more.

Love that router bit, definitely want to pick one up at some point. That ain't cheap. :) Keep up the great work.

Really like the videos. I’m new to woodworking and your videos are definitely educational

this was a great help! thanks

Oooooooooohhhh!!!!! Great recommendations on how to do the curves! These are great tips for a newbie routererer! Ha ha ha ha

Wow! Thanks very much for this video, Jonathan. These are good band saw tips as well as router tips. I'm still learning to use my benchtop band saw and router table and this couldn't be more timely. I've been afraid to pull the trigger on the moxon vise templates because I pretty much suck at both tools. Now I'm feeling like I might be able to make a go of that vise with a little more practice on these tips. Thanks.

FANTASTIC video!

Thanks, Jonathan. As always, very informative and entertaining.

You are correct sir. Bought some of that double-sided tape through your link. It is the Bugatti!

Great video Jonathan. I have a Limbert A&C table I want to build that requires template routing for the legs. This was helpful. Thanks. - I need one of those bits with bearings on the top and bottom for sure.

I found an exception of when to go with the bit. I wanted to know my emergency room co pay.

...thank YOU very much !!!! very interessting !!! kind regards from Sitzerland !!!

Yea I learned this the hard way, and almost snapped a sapele sleigh bed leg. Immediately spent the money on the ultimate pattern bit...like butter

Thank you!!

Nitto Permacel is my favorite double stick tape - I use it for CNC fixturing, and I have to dissolve the adhesive with rubbing alcohol to remove it. I'll definitely give your recommendation a try, though.

great video! would like a tutorial on routing small piece, i.e. toy pieces

clamp on the router base for pivot point. That moment worth the entire 12:39 minutes.

I'm looking forward to the router series. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the cut direction and climb cuts and tearout and that kind of stuff. You touched on it here, but for me there wasn't enough explaining with the demonstration. It just went by very fast.

Thanks for an awesome explanation on how to router properly, Now for that Tape, it's more like a Volkswagen! It will not stick to the wood and it's so time consuming trying to peel it back enough to expose the sticky . $15 and I just had to throw it in the trash

Thanks!

Every video is ALWAYS helpful, so many thanks.

For the series include some beyond the basic jigs like spline cutters and such. Plenty of that kind of thing on YT now.

also helps to have a fulcrum pin on the router table.

Thank you Katz 😊.

I’ve also seen people use CA glue and accelerator to hold their template on. Seperates very easily afterwards.

Thank you sir for a really useful video bless you mate from across the pond … liked and subscribed 😃😃

I use 1/4" PVC or ABS sheet for my templates that get lots of hard use and they don't break when prying them up.

Look forward to the series! Currently planning a router table with some storage to clean up a little around the garage.

Love your videos, just a quick point if you are in the Uk when Americans talk about putty knives they are referring to filling knives or paint scrapers.not putty knives as we know them.

Great Tutorial very valuable pointers ! Thank. You

Great video! :) I seen that bit being too high glad to see you show that you used it like that after all! We all make screw ups just another reason why an extra template sometimes helps.

saw Dave P make a quick and dirty router box-joint sled/jig. would love to see your take on that

Would love to see you do a box with a locking miter bit.

Great info and content .... THANKS. Two quick questions: When routing plywood, how important is routing with grain direction, if important at all? How do I minimize the fuzzies when routing plywood? Thanks in advance for the info!

This was so helpful. Thanks for all the fantastic videos.

This video was great and very helpful. Thank you very much!

Very good tips thank you

Great video, thanks!

If you haven't already seen Ben @ Crimson Guitars masking tape and super glue trick, it's just making double tape but no residue and amazing strength, rout, plane, whatever.

"and I just get it up a little bit at a time... "... That's what she said LOL! Seriously... As usual great tips JKM! Just the tip though!

Always learn lots. Thanks for the video...rr Normandy, France

If your 2 sided tape wont loosen, take a heat gun or hair dryer and warm up the template the heat will soften the glues and help you pry it off.

Really good useful information, thanks Jonathon

Thanks for that. I needed that one. Working on my router table causes me to sweat heavily.

I didn’t know inside curves could tear out as well. I’ve now seen too many videos on what can go wrong when routing. I’m currently completely scared off trying to template route anything. Especially my one slab of electric guitar body size wood. I think I’ll just rasp it into shape. Some day in the far off future.

Man this is so good… who tracked the drums? They’re insanely good. Or is it programmed?

Double sided tape referred to as the 'Bugatti' of tapes not best in that it's price is reasonable . Better to that it's the Katz meow . 😊

Awesome info! Now I'm thinking I'm using a too small diameter bit, or too weak of a router (Love it anyways) rather than needing new cheap bits from ebay, or bank breakingly expensive new bits from the hardware store. I'll try what I was doing slightly differently later.

Thanks so much for this video. how to do cut an outside 3/4" radius on a 12" x 4" piece making a radius cut on the 4" vertical side ,top to bottom if this makes sense? Using a flush trim bit or roundover bit? thanks.

Very helpful information.......thanks!

thank you cool Katz great stuff

Where can I buy the pivot pin that threads into the router lift? Thanks for a great demo.

Is there any chance you could show router tips with the fence in place at some point too, please, Jonathan? Due to Health & Safety legislation in the UK, I’m not allowed to use them on the part-time course in Joinery, but there’s always more information I can learn, so I’d appreciate any tips you can pass on. Thanks. I look forward to seeing more.

Routing maple still freaks me out!!

Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see the router table build.

You know for the price of your favorite router bit, I can buy two Skill 2-1/2 HP router kits with Fixed/Plunge bases. That's a little absurd!

Your videos are great. Can you please put a link to the bendable vacuum attachment that you have on your router table?