It's really amazing to see the Sega Genesis to run 3D Polygon's without using any special chip add-on. SNES version looks like an entirely different game.

The Sega Genesis's 3d engine looked great. Cool things like elevation changes added some depth to the track layout. Also when you turn the perspective changes some to give you the feeling of leaning into the turn. The game runs pretty smooth with the 3d buildings and other landmarks. I say the other racers look better on the Genesis version than the SNES version. They seem choppier on the SNES when they come into your view.

Impressionante a versão da Sega, a suavidade como os sprites das motos vão se aproximando, tudo muito fluido, ficou incrível.

Eu tive o prazer de jogar esse jogo não só no emulador mas em um Sega Genesis real que eu tinha. Era uma das fitas que eu mais alugava da vídeolocadora. Era bem legal e eu ficava impressionado com os gráficos em 3D na época que eu jogava.

So it looks like the developers did more with the Genesis hardware than they did with the SNES. Quite impressive.

Thank you for the information! You got to love that Blast Processing of the Mega Drive. This game looks awesome!

The F1 engine really stepped up its game on megadrive and wasn't shy to show much more polygons, and a bit of transparency through the shadow-highlight mode, though it is remarkable the SNES version trying to add some polygon-like effects, and a functional speed indicator on the bike. Both great, though if I had to pick, again, MD looks more attractive

Blast processing powaaaaa

The Genesis wins again. The biggest thing for me was the bike didn't take as much room on the screen on the Genesis. Frame rates are similar and both use polygons well.

Acho tão dahora ver jogos que utilizam poligonos nos consoles 16 bits sem a necessidade de chips especiais. ( claro, não são tão complexos como Stunt Race FX, Virtua Racing e Star Fox 2, mas considerando que os consoles não foram feitos para isso é bem impressionante. ) A versão do Mega Drive ganha aqui por ter mais detalhes.

SNES seems to look and play a bit smoother, but it's super interesting to see the stock Genesis pulling off 3D like this. It runs way better than Race Driven' did on the Genesis.

Everybody is amazed by the Genesis drawing polygonal objects. Meanwhile i stare amazed how they achieved a transparent colored windshield without using dithering. 😲

With the F1 game, before this vid, i never realized how powerful Genesis actually was compared to SNES. I was always under the assumption SNES was just more powerful cuz of the colors, sprite size, mode 7, etc, but VC Decide is showing me otherwise.

遊戲中的3D多邊形呈現真的很棒！尤其是在Sega Genesis上運行，看起來比SNES版本還要精彩的說！不得不說，遊戲開發商在Genesis硬體上下了不少功夫，比起SNES來說更令人印象深刻的說！真的很期待能夠親自體驗一下這款遊戲的精彩之處！

In this case, the Genesis version is way superior. Even filled with polygons, it looks better even with similar framerate.

i came for the gameplay comparison, stayed for the on-screen comments

The Genesis version is practically nextgen for its time. I didn't know about this back in the day, but found out about it probably about 5 years ago and it really blew my mind that it wasn't using the SVP chip or anything of the sort. It's all raw Genesis CPU power. The sound is rather lacking, but there are some cool effects like a whooshing sound when you pass nearby objects and ride through tunnels. Another impressive feature is the transparency of the windshield. It doesn't seem to use dithering and I'm not sure how they did that on the Genesis at all. Last thing would be the permanent tire marks left on the pavement. This game really had a lot of technically impressive things going for it and it's just not really talked about much at all. It might be the technically most impressive game on the console.

Ótima comparação, como esse jogo, fica evidente a superioridade do MEGA ao Snes, gráficos incríveis e à frente do seu tempo. Outro exemplo é o jogo do Aladdin, aquilo é uma obra prima da Disney 😍

Megadrive sin duda ❤

Sega Génesis o Mega Drive gracias a su Hardware, podía mover hasta 1800 polígonos por segundo sin necesidad de Chips de apoyo. En cambio SNES no llegaba a los 200 polígonos(de hecho eran 190 polígonos). Un Saludo 🖖🦁

Im usually for snes versions, but this time I go with Sega, I prefer the pace and backgrounds.

Pretty impressive it runs that well and is pretty playable on Mega drive and almost runs aswell as Starfox without anything but stock hardware. The Motorola 68000 "32 bit instuctions" for calculating polygons being put through its paces. Nice use of colours and ( I think ) use of Mode 7 scaling/rotation to lighten the load on CPU with a few polys being thrown in there.

Both are a bit choppy on their frame rates, but Genesis version seems more immersive with its leaning motion on curves, and more realistic poligon scaling. Snes seems lagging behind technically with its sprite-scaling on side objects and no leaning.

Snes obviously doesn't have enough grunt to it to run this as well as Mega Drive without any additional chips 🍟

Genesis does transparency in the windshield via shadow highlight! Nintendon’t!

Bem, sobre a questão de processadores, já tem vários e vários estudos sobre o processador do mega vs SNES, na prática eles eram quase equivalentes no geral, mas o do mega levava umas vantagens em certos pontos e o Snes em outros pontos, mas são quase que incomparáveis, são arquiteturas diferentes demais, contudo sim, o mega no 3D levava uma vantagem principalmente pelo clock mais alto, facilitando mais polígonos, no snes exigiria um esforço imenso para fazer algo do tipo rodar de forma compwtente, pois se no mega já corre de forma mediana, imagina então no SNES com a limitação de 8bit do processador, eu até hoje acho que foi um erro esse processador do snes pois nem retocompatibilidade ele teve e atrapalhava muito os ports, isso sem falar do cartucho slow-rom usados em diversos jogos e a falta de conhecimento dos programadores em relação ao snes, levando assim a ports ruins, em comparação ao mega que sua CPU era mais simples e conhecida dos arcades, então era muito mais fácil explorar o potencial do mega, ambos eram bons consoles e ambos tinham suas vantagens e desvantagens!

Blast Processing for you guys!

Genesis!!!

The SNES version is certainly much more rudimentary (no sprite scaling, no screen rotation, less polygons) but it's definitely using a 3D engine (perspective correct road, correct polygons, sprite changed according to depth)...

A versão do Mega Drive está mais caprichada nos detalhes. A do Super Nintendo, por ter sido feita posteriormente, deveria ser nitidamente melhor. A leve diferença na que o Super Nintendo tem em relação a taxa de quadros por segundo não supera a versão do Mega Drive.

Virtua fighter can move in the z axis for a few things, such as combos being blocked can angle the aggressor to the side of the defender as well as a few specials will sweep the player in and out of the screen plus finally, while downed, a player can roll within the z axis to avoid stomps and or get a better angle on their opponent since you have to be centred on the guy to successfully block them. I think some throws also rotates the field on which will fight too which is useful for ringing a guy out. Theres no direct side stepping but actions of the game as well as the roll ground evasion move do push motion in the z axis which is cool seeing the force of blocking a guy pushing you out of their frontal assault.

It would be nice if the Genesis version had the tachometer on the bike itself and they guy flying off when crashing like the SNES version, the menus also look very nice on the SNES, but everything else looks superior on the genesis. Guess the most important thing would be how fun each of them is to play, which is hard to tell from a video unless one clearly controls very poorly.

Aqui, Sega Mega Drive venceu. Jogo 3D fluído, melhor som, melhor resolução, polígonos mais detalhados; Super Nintendo mais colorido, detalhes em 2D, sem HUD. O curioso que, desta vez, Sega Mega Drive tendo, até, efeito de transparência no parabrisa; Super Nintendo não.

Great video. One of the smoother polygon games on the Megadrive. Nobody should be surprised the Megadrive is throwing polygons around as the Amiga And ST were doing it for years and they share the 68000 processor. Leave out the commentary about engines and systems as clearly it's dribble

2D or 3D... doesn't matter. It's interesting and impressive, but the clear winner here is the SNES: details (animated hand, tachometer), colorfulnes (sky, other bikes) and the sense of speed leave no chance to the Mega Drive/Genesis. It looks almost double as fast. And i'm a big Mega Drive fan!

The Mega Drive/Genesis version is so powerful that even when the pilot makes curves, the screen leans to the side. The background and foreground vision change accordingly. In the SNES version, this effect is absent. When the pilot makes curves, only the pilot leans, and the only noticeable effects are the up and down race tracks.

*Sounds like a motor cycle on SNES to me*

Genesis is the more impressive version especailly being a year before the snes version. But the snes version has alot going for it as well, vibrant color, better feel of speed, hand movements on handles and a working tachometer.

i like the sky on the S.N.E.S. version better but the Genesis has like 5 times more structure background. seems the S.N.E.S. has a little more presentation. pretty much a tie though

@vcdecide Great comparison! Road Rash was successfully ported down to SMS. What made the SNES more difficult to work with?

SNES version is embarrassing, to say the least...

They both look really good! I think the Genesis port is better because they sound more like Formula 1 Race Cars!

I'm surprised the Genesis version has a transparency effect while the SNES version does not.

Both games look fun, I give the edge here to the genesis but id have absolutely no problems enjoying the snes game.

At least the Snes replicated it best it could, unlike the other Domark game on Snes (F1) which was cut back in the gameplay. Snes owners still have a real nice bike game here. Of course if Domark opted to spend more on an additional chip for snes version it could have been better. But it's good enough imo.

The Genesis had a much faster processor than the SNES, ideal for getting playable frame rates for games like this.

haters gonna hate, good work

Doa a quem doer, mas o "Genesis does what Nintendon't" é verdade (não sempre, mas é) e o "Blast Processing " também. O Mega Drive é um console injustiçado.

The GameBoy Advance was also not built to process 3D Engines or polygonal graphics, though some devs managed to do even crazier things on there. A few games, like Payback and Big Mother Truckers even allow for a full range of movement!

Sega definitely does what Nintendon't :D Blast processing baby!

Visualmente, a versão de SNES é bem mais bonita, mais fluída e transmite maior sensação de velocidade, além de oferecer gameplay em tela cheia.

The Genesis/MegaDrive version is better in my opinion. Better immersion, 3D sensation and speed.

What’s really interesting, aside from the polygons, is how the Sega version has a a translucent windshield and the SNES doesn’t. The Genesis/MD can do transparency effects (light/dark only, no color) using its shadow/highlight function. Not enough games use this. The SNES of course can do transparent colors, but notice how it always slows games down? And putting it on top of a line scroll raster effect for the road probably would kill performance, so they didn’t bother.

Snes got blasted

Although the game screen is a bit smaller for the Genesis, the game looks way better with much better scaling, trackside details, and even the city in the distance is much better than snes. Strangely enough even the scaling of the riders is smoother on Genesis than snes. Sega for the W!

Obviously the polygons are more impressive on the Mega Drive, but what surprised me is the SNES isn't doing transparency on the windshield, while the Mega Drive is.

They're both good, really. As a sega fan, I was expecting nintendo to come out trumps. Especially with the sound and lack of VCP in the megadrive version. The megadrive has more going on in the background, similar sound, and the nes basically looks similar but very slightly better polyclinic graphics.

Estou usando um app que pode ver os deslikes e até agora 31 nintendistas ficaram bravinhos vendo a surra que o megão da no snes 😂😂😂 (edit) 25 nintendola brabo... dando deslikes...

Genesis has a better 3d sensation, but the speed sensation and the fps are 2 times faster on the snes. Impressive game on the Genesis, but more fun on the snes.

To be fair here, while the MD version renders in 3d the controls are still made like a 2d game. You cannot leave the track or drive backwards

Este juego debió salir en el sega 32X

I think the MD version use the F1 Domark / Vroom engine made by Lankhor

Genesis uses dated "3d engine" with flat shaded polygons. (Those are more resource consuming than wireframes, for example , those used on Mega Man X 3), With Jaw and Roll and Pitch movement of the screen. Meanwhile the Snes port uses a 2d engine like Top Gear, that exclusively uses a certain part of the screen, to draw the track. I don't have a 'frame counter tool' but Snes appears to have a 30 fps and Genesis lower, something somewhere in the 20 fps range. But it totally makes it look like the best version. Games like Top Gear don't give me the same feeling as feeling the weight of the vehicle (althought I haven't played this particular game), like the camera movement contributes

I gotta say that the Sega version looks much better...1 to Sega 0 to SNES 🙏🏽

Just note the difference... the timer in the genesis is working as it should, It's a timer. THe Snes version laaaaaaaags. BTW you could move on the Z axis (albeit not -Z) Virtua Fighter as character could jump. The so hated MOON JUMPS...

Both are 2D engine with 3D elements, but in sega it has more to it. Don't mislead people!

Genesis has an inferior HUD; I assume that was a concession for smooth framerate, the SNES also had clouds and a gradient sky really adding to the already more colorful game... I still have to give it to the Genesis for actually going in the z axis and having legitimate 3D effects and being much smoother (especially impressive since it didn't have to use external chips to achieve a superior outcome.

Snes looks like a bootleg 🤣

Genesis❤

It hardly even looks like the same game. The SNES has better sprites, but the Genesis is actually 3D. Not to mention the music being similar is honestly the only similarity.

Its all about the hands that run it... but I really like to see this epic unfair comparations - SEGA MEGA DRIVE FROM 1988 and SFC FROM 1990.... TWO YEARS of tech is too much... congrats to Sega MD to even stand a chance to compare stuffs against the SFC tech advanceds.... for me. the best use of the SFC was the closed portal to 32bit era.... (I m mean that a well done SFC 16 bit stuff can be compared to 32bit games - ex.: DCC) but UAL... Sega MD did a lot of noise even with such tech dows... What a great time : )

A versão de Mega é um pouco mais imersiva pelos efeitos no cenário.

Caramba como os jogos em ambos os consoles são rápidos e até certo ponto fluidos. A gameplay empolga. Se tivesse acontecido mais cedo na geração com certeza teria durado um pouco mais.

Versão de SNES parece um jogo comum de corrida 😂 "MEGA WINS"!

Com Chip especial talvez a versão do super Nintendo ficasse parecida com a do Mega Drive. Abraços...

The snes tried

How on earth is the Genesis doing that?

Why would you want Mode7 when you can use a 3D engine ?

No caben comparaciones, te puede gustar una versión más que la otra, pero el trabajo que han hecho en la versión de Megadrive, no se puede compara con la de la Super Nintendo, porque simplemente es otro juego.

I think that to consider the graphics engine of a 3d game, the game should really allow you to move on the z-axis, something that this game cannot, since the game does not allow you to stop the bike and go in reverse or in another direction other than to the front. But I also don't think a game requires using polygons to be considered a 3d engine (like Doom and Wolfenstein 3d).Even in games like Super Nintendo's F-Zero you can go in reverse or to either side off the road (hint, it's better to go forward if you want to win the race :)😆. So i consider this a 2d engine with some 3d elements.

Eu so pude, infelizmente, jogar a versão de Super Nintendo. Decepção logo de cara. Parecia um jogo feito no começo da vida do SNES. Em pleno 1995 um jogo de motovelocidade que perdia feio para outros jogos que vieram antes.

I think a lot of objective opinions these days tend to favor the genesis hardware over Nintendo in the 16 bit era. There was more to work with on the sega side and had Nintendo not been so draconian with their licenses, it may have been a land slide in segas favor. Remember, a lot of ports from capcom were programmed in house by sega themselves and so on. People who sleep on segas 16 bit console were really missing out on a varied software library

Sound messed up again, wrong side.

SNES's CPU was built differently. Technically it could execute more MIPS than the Genesis processor, however the way it did so (in layman's terms, in large "chunks" every so often instead of a more constant stream of instructions executed by the faster x68000 of the Genesis) did in fact make things like 3D games run noticeably better on the stock Genesis than they did on the stock SNES. SNES did have special hardware support for mode 7 and certain scanline tricks like HDMI to simulate pseudo-3D style graphics, but beyond that, Genesis did better with real 3D sans any SNES cartridge enhancement chips like the SUPER-FX.

fuccn blast processing!!!

Sega Genesis blast processing

E nessas horas que o Motorola 68000 brilha. O coprocessamento dele para polígonos vetoriais sem usar nenhum chip, e muito a cima no SNES, que se arrasta tentando fazer um jogo desse tipo sem nenhum chip especial. Usando um chip como o Mode7 estalado nos cartuchos como Mario Kart e outros, o SNES e tudo de bom. Sem usar o Mode7, esse ai e o real processamento do SNES, Limitado com muito meno detalhes no cenário, e ainda assim, bem mai lento. Realidade e isso.

Sega Genesis is amazing !

This looks like a similar engine to Vroom on the Atari ST and Amiga on the Megadrive and doesn't look as smooth as the Atari ST version. Again the SNES version just looks like an old generation racing game like Pole Position just prettied up a bit. This is not a game that works to the SNES's strengths in fact it highlights the SNES's weaknesses. I'd still rather play Mario Kart on the SNES though.

Crash Team Racing on PS1 is fully polygonal. NFS and Road Rash 3DO are using a line scrolling road. It’s surprising how far you can push line scrolling. But it’s not 3D. The road can never rotate and display in a horizontal angle. It can move only to the extent that lines can be moved around. I think Vroom pushes this limitation to the extreme when you do a bit crash and the camera moves down and to the side. But it’s still not 3D. The Amiga game F1 Grand Prix is fully polygonal. But a line scrolling game with 3D objects is not a 3D engine. A voxel or polygon engine are the only true 3D engines. The graphics engines used in these two games are functionally the same. Line scrolling road and some 3D trackside objects. The major difference is that the Genesis game is scaling and rotating the sprites. Road Rash has no 3D objects, but scales (but doesn’t rotate) all of the other racers and trackside objects and uses a line scrolling road engine. This game has nice effects on the road like arrows and other road markings, changing width and tyre marks. But the frame rate suffers quite a bit. Did you know Top Gear 2000 on SNES uses an enhancement chip just to get the SNES to display the point that the track divides into two, in the manner of Outrun? Line scrolling can be pushed quite far with textures as seen in Mega Drive Street Racer, but that line scrolling engine does not have differences in height. But these two games have, technically, the same level of complexity in their engine with the exclusion of sprite scaling on the SNES and a lower amount of trackside polygonal objects. Also the tilting effect which is achieved through column shifting using the specialised Genesis hs-ram (horizontal scroll ram). I do prefer the SNES version to play though because I think the bike handles better. But the lack of sprite scaling and trackside 3D objects makes is less exciting I guess. The SNES driver squeezes his brakes at the end of the race. So I give this contest to the SNES.

Muy buena tu aclaración, aunque bueno, digamos que la concepción de 3d de la generación millenial está muy equivocada🤔ni en super Mario bros, 64, ni siquiera en GTA San Andreas se podía ir a dónde sea , y esque como bien dices la capacidad 3d consiste en manejar el eje z que es la profundidad, incluso sin motor 3d se pueden crear polígonos moviendo planos a diferente velocidad desde ese momento estás utilizando ya el eje z que es lo que mentalmente traen los programadores para dar esa imagen poligonal , a diferencia de un motor 3d donde ya la estructura está predispuesta con "maquetas cúbicas en blanco"(pongamos lo así) es menor dificultad crear imágenes 3d , a diferencia de estar moviendo sprutes a diferente velocidad para crear esos polígonos,sin embargo los juegos de esas épocas se hacían asi😊 pues tener motor 3d en un sistema de16 bit era caro y tedioso, creo en este caso que la versión de GÉNESIS es muy superior, 🤔y claro ...la de snes fue SOBREVALORADA, debido ala publicidad.

Sem chip extra não vai mesmo 😆

Genesis does.

Genesis version they is premititive polygon 3d. The fps is below 20, probably worse than starfox. The snes feels realistic due to its speed. Btw I'm not a snes or Genesis fan. 😊

Why no fx chip

O do Super Nintendo chega a dar sono jogando, é muito enfadonho... já o do mega é bem melhor, parece que aproveitaram algo do jogo Formula One

Wow, they did not sensor the bikini girls on the SNES, lol

Genesis wins

O Console do Tinky Wink perdeu de novo , tive os dois na época.

SNES wins by a country mile on framerate. Genesis version has nice graphical touches, though not worth the hit to framerate and significant loss of color.