The rebel is cool, but the versys is going to way more for you! Very good choice!

@@ComfyDadShoes thank you .. unfortunately I end up buying hd dyna wide glide 2012 😁😁 not even close 😂😅

@Mitko Mitev I must agree with on that one.. bit I end up buying hd dyna wide glide 2012 and that not even close 😂😂

and I’m here, tired of my 1100, looking for my next bike

You suggest riding on twisty roads with acceleration and deceleration in sixth gear, am I right? Alas, 4 cylinders cannot be energy efficient as 2 cylinders.

@@adv-moto Or 4th or 5th..you do hang onto low gears a lot.

You are wright Peter. When i drive 80 , it will be in 5th gear. Ik changed my new KTM 1290 Super Adventure S to a Versys 1000 SE and i am so confident. I don't need 160 Hp and 140 m Torque anymore.

​​​@@adv-motoThis engine can operate smoothly down to 2500 rpm. Operating in 3rd gear at rpms of 4000 rpm or more is nonsense. I routinely get 4.8L/100km and I don't ride like a grandpa. It is designed with a long flat torque curve but you ride it like its a peaky sport bike.

Reason for the space is because the bike did not have the electronic Skyhook Suspension. This guy should have done some research before his review.

Then we must assume that Kawasaki made a giant space on the first generation, 7 years before the introduction of Skyhook. :) Suspension module can be located elsewhere, it does not have to be under seat.

@@smokey8400 I have a 2022 SE and yes, that nice under seat storage is completely used up by the suspension module. It doesn’t have much under seat storage at all, barely enough for the factory tool bag. It’d be a nice place for a tire repair and first aid kits.

Yes this is a very good review . And I drive a Versys 1000 in the steep French Alps everyday. A all around good bike .

Thanks for the info 🎉🎉

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Hi! I have table for "internal use". I will try to publish before the next video, which is almost ready.

@ondrisGTR Thank. In any case, you need bike from 1000cc. In that sense, Versys... yes, fits your size. It is also good in "versatility" and gives an understanding of different classes.

Chains are not that big of an issue anymore. Lube every 200 miles with chain wax using center-stand takes me < 10 minutes including clean-up of rear rim and good time to inspect bike. I prefer the much lower weight and cost plus higher efficiency of chain drive

@Stiggy Just find an atelier where put a gel inside, or you can order it through Topsellerie or something else. If problem is in stiffness of the filler itself, and not in the form.

@@adv-moto Hi and many thanks for your prompt reply. The original seat I found I could sit on for maybe 45 minutes before discomfort. I did have the seat remade with gel pads and different foam and this improved comfort and I can now ride an hour to hour 15 maybe and I have to get off. I spoke with my local dealer about this and he said that this discomfort thing is increasing with the problem being manufacturers making bikes taller. When shorter riders sit on them they maybe feel unsafe on tiptoes on both feet so to get round this the manufacturer makes the seat narrower at the front which enables potential purchasers to get both feet on the ground and feel safer. This then concentrates all your weight on a very localised spot on the body. I spoke about this with the company that re-foamed my seat and they said the seat needs to be wider at the front to provide more support, example he gave which I find is true, sitting at the computer for hours on end on an office chair with about 2 cm of foam from the plastic base no problem with comfort because weight is spread over a bigger area. Again, thanks for reply and vids which I do enjoy. Ride safe.

I Just got an Airhawk seat pad it works perfectly.

@@smokey8400 Thanks for the reply WJ. Actually tried a similar recommended gel seat pad same as the Airhawk and found that worse than the original seal. I think I'm just an awkward customer.

Only if that's what you hanker for in a bike....I couldn't care less about a satnav

@@BibtheBoulder That's what I'd hanker for if I was buying a touring bike like this and traveling to places I'm unfamiliar with. Much more convenient that having to pull over and consult a map.

@@ToeTag1968 Well said....

I wouldn’t waste your money on the 1000 for sure. They nerfed the engine so you are not getting liter bike power for your money like other bikes. It’s over priced for what it is. I have the 650. I like it a lot. However I’m looking at others for my 1000c bike

1050 isn't bad, it's just not good at something special (ok, for daily city comuting better, than Versys). Versys at least gives more comfort and dynamics/fun - so, yes, Versys is a better allrounder. The main problem with the 1050 as an allrounder is the mediocre suspension that doesn't offer the versatility that the Tiger 900 GT, any Multistrada, etc. have.

@@adv-moto , thanks a lot, really appreciate your answer!

I did... No regrets

yup 16t = longer chain life to.... , not for two riders though, , 6th becomes very overdrive .... no need to change the rear tooth count. .. touring two up simply run a 60 series tire ....😊 look out for the plazic fender.

Definitely not a true 4cylinder 1000c. I have the 650 which I love. However if I’m going to shell out more money for the 1000. It needs to run like one. I think the loaded version is like 18000. Mostly because of electronics I don’t need. I havnt seen a base model at any dealer.

​​@@dsiz9421Comparing Versys 1000 to 650 the 1000 is a much better motorcycle hands down and IMO well worth the price. As far as power is concerned this will mostly keep up with Ninja 1000SX even well beyond legal speeds as my brother has the later and i have ridden it back-to-back but i prefer Versys comfort. There is plenty of power to do stupid things that could get you killed or injured. Comparatively the Versys 650 is a sloth and from an overall performance, handling, and comfort perspective does not even come close to the 1000.

@Hanei Ramen No, up to 190-200 km/h, even with high windshield in a high position, there is no wobble.

@@adv-moto thanks bro

@crushitall Complex issue. By default, all Sports Tourers have weak low-revs and in terms of comfort, low-rev-bikes will be better in traffic jams. If the Honda NT1100 - Sports Tourer, then I will vote for it - it is far from the most powerful in class, but it has a low-rev-engine, an automatic transmission, it is very narrow for a 1000 cc and quite light. If closer to the usual Sports Tourers - Yamaha Tracer 9 is chic - very light, compact, maneuverable, but the engine is already without fat low-revs. Something else from Triumph. For example, Tiger 1050 Tiger 900 GT, Tiger 800 XR - they all have very smooth torque on all revs. Also great for the city, but I vote for NT1100 because of DCT gearbox.

@@adv-moto thx a lot - now I'm riding Africa 1000 with DCT😁. I love Tracer but it's more like a toy and it's not good for riding with passanger...

Yep, Tracer only for pilot.

Hnoda Arfrica Tiwn is a great bike tho

Depending on what you mean by ADV. This is definitely an asphalt bike.

@@adv-moto That's what I wanted to know, whether it's adventure or not. Thanks✌️

You can do light adv with it. I've owned it and went on unpaved roads no problem at all.

This is not an adventure bike. S1000GT's competitor - Z1000SX.

Engine too busy for sport touring, short geared. Look at one up close, build quality is crap.

New Tiger 1200 start from 19 500 euro, the old one - very good bike, but has a reliability issues with engine and gearbox. This consumption is a feature of 4-cylinder 1000cc engines - S1000XR or Multistrada V4 consume same or more. Gold Wing has almost a car engine with "square" cylinders and a car rev range - it is not entirely appropriate to compare with short-stroke high-revving engines - different emotions. 2-cylinders consume less too, but that's not the only difference.

Netherlands and Germany, but i live in Spain. :)

@@adv-moto it's really beautiful and less corwded.

A few years ago, Honda was selling at the same time VFR1200X, VFR800X, Africa Twin, Africa Twin Adventure Sports, NC750X and CB500X. Yes, VFR is "sporty adventure", but...

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Right now in Spain (basic versions): 13 900 € - Versys 1000 + free panniers + insurance 20 200 € - S1000XR 20 890 € - Multistrada V4.

Legal. I think it would be terrible if I voiced it all with an accent. Especially after the war.

Not bad - more sporty than it needs to be.

Let kawi service center to fix it.

@@jomaragosita6518 the bike has been in for this repair twice during which I've been told that this is common on the larger displacement Kawis. I've asked about modifying the ECU setting to prevent fuel shut-off when throttle is initially closed but they can't do. Others in the versys community have noted this same issue. It's potentially deadly and resulted in a few close-calls when it stalled while pulling out onto highways

@@jaydee5926 so this is really a big problem tks for educating me. God bless.

@@jomaragosita6518The irregular idle happens immediately after closing the throttle and can be seen in the movement of the tachometer needle. It lasts only for a few moments. Forums have recommended keeping the throttle bodies in synch helps. The dealership increased the idle a bit which has reduced the frequency of stalling but the momentary irregular idle is still there. I'm sure that it's due to Kawi's efforts to meet emissions and that a re-map of the ICU would fix this. AFAIK no one has remapped an SE ECU, only pre-2019 V1K models. Otherwise it's a great bike and I love it