It’s funny that Mercury Steam has worked on Castlevania and Metroid and it’s clear which IP holder actually cared about their property.
@nachoolo2 жыл бұрын
Their work on Metroid do make me wish for them to do another Castlevania game. Just to see what they can do now.
@Wexter00832 жыл бұрын
@@nachoolo I like to think their experience on Lord's of Shadow 1 and Mirror of Fate helped them hone their skills to make Samus Returns and Dread. That and with Nintendo's oversight and care really shines through in what this studio is capable of! Would love to see them do another Castlevania!
@thedoomnegotiator96932 жыл бұрын
@@kbbkkbbk9999 Exactly, it was diet God of War with none of the charm of either series
@PunishedPrince2 жыл бұрын
@@kbbkkbbk9999 suuuuuure it was the “anime” part that westerners loved and complained about LOS for not having. not like DS and judgment were bashed for being recognizably anime
@no_You1972 жыл бұрын
Now only Mercury Steam needs to actually care about their employees
@hellblueboy42 жыл бұрын
According to the interviews, Kojima involvement on the series was to protect MercurySteam from Konami, by put his name on the project.
@ironrex697911 ай бұрын
I believe it look what happened to LoS2 Konami murdered it.
@FAILaTHON972 жыл бұрын
Imo this is the best GoW “clone” out there. The voice acting was amazing and the areas were beautiful. 13 year old me was very happy
@keystonelyte2 жыл бұрын
Imo, as edgy as it is, I think that honor goes to Dante's Inferno. Lords of Shadow is a close second for me, though.
@darrylreid81452 жыл бұрын
Lamont of innocence came out 2 years before god of war and has almost the same combat style. If anything god of war is a castlevania style but people don’t give it credit for it.
@Tinfoiltomcat2 жыл бұрын
Dante's Inferno is the one for me
@vorpalinferno97112 жыл бұрын
GoW is a DMC clone. And now its a Dark Souls clone.
@__-fi6xg2 жыл бұрын
@@darrylreid8145 People for a long time thought devil may cry was a god of war clone, the mass is stupid in general.
@ExpertDual2 жыл бұрын
Dracula killing holy knights with holy magic is a wonderful thing. This isn't your movie dracula he crucifixes you
@Demonskunk2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed the Lords of Shadow series. I love the plot, I had fun with the games.
@painasura14032 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for a game by itself, it's amazing.
@wallacesousuke14339 ай бұрын
@@painasura1403 nah not even that, game is generic and derivative af, glad that awful reboot trilogy flopped hard
@gjergjaurelius97985 ай бұрын
@@wallacesousuke1433NAH its great.
@bsmith66463 ай бұрын
@@wallacesousuke1433Cheer up chuckles
@kingbash64662 жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for the Lords of Shadows series. They’re not my ideal Castlevania games, but I do enjoy GOW/DMC type games, and these were, for the most part, solid. Glad that MercurySteam is finding more success in their Metroid titles though.
@Zer0_Ph34r2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, most of your critics about this series make a lot of sense to me given the context of my own playthroughs. I have played all the Darksiders games and all the Lords of Shadow games and I really couldn't understand the hate that the games got when they came out. Each time I started playing each game I became entranced by how much fun I was having with them in spite of all the negativity that I found surrounding them. It seems that it really boils down to the kind of gamer I am, but I really find that odd. My bread and butter games are RPGs and story driven games; really the direct antithesis of these kinds of games. I've also played through the entire God of War franchise and much of the Devil May Cry series, which I think most would say are the better iterations of these games. Yet, in spite of that, I prefer these games to those. Maybe I'm just really weird, but I think that all these games are much better than people give them credit for and I would love to see more entries in them.
@ShadowFri3nd11 ай бұрын
Take away the name "Castlevania" and people complain will be almost none for the series, they just Castlevania fanboys, I liked both games and even if they have some issues (like the stealth parts on 2), they are overall good games that mocks games released today (would anyone rather forspoken over this?)
@alfredgamerzzgamers39708 ай бұрын
Forspoken is trash
@KillThisManNRK2 жыл бұрын
It just struck me that this games story is so close to Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen. Ghostly spirit around some pillars tasks a morally dubious gentleman to save the world only for him to go “Fuck the world” and become the most powerful Vampire to live.
@k.w.66262 жыл бұрын
Damn, now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Yeah, you do have a point. Sheesh tho, didn't expect to hear about legacy of kain, those games dummy underrated.
@Ghostel35912 жыл бұрын
To be fair in LoS dude became a Vampire to go kill extra dangerous demon - exactly opposite of "Fuck the world", then resisted "curse" for a while until going mad (also those whom he tried to protect going Holy Crusade on his ass didn't help the matter at all). So similar in end result but different starting point. Kain never was a nice person and his choice to become Vampire Lord and screw over 9 pillars was out of pure selfishness (he got wiser with years but still).
@juanpineiro45072 жыл бұрын
@@Ghostel3591 you hit the nail on the head dude 👍
@Raximus30002 жыл бұрын
Only it hides deeper motives and a puppet master behind the scenes who creates an unbeatable plan by normal means.
@__-fi6xg2 жыл бұрын
Aiming for a legacy of Kain storyline is not a bad thing in my book.
@devilpantsu2 жыл бұрын
I played all three of those games and was lukewarm on all of them. For a while, I blamed MercurySteam for the death of Castlevania, but that was when I had no idea what was really going on at Konami and how they were treating their other franchises. When I discovered that Konami's interests had shifted exclusively to wallet-sucking mobile trash and pachislot garbage, I realized that MercurySteam weren't to blame at all. All they did was their best.😔
@PedroMiguel-zv3fj2 жыл бұрын
For a company with low experience doing these action games, they did pretty well imo, and the games have some charm and a vision, somewhat cohesive even if mediocre
@Magitek11122 жыл бұрын
And they went on to make Samus Returns and Metroid Dread, so I'd say they've improved since then too.
@frankbasile36622 жыл бұрын
The First Lords of Shadow was excellent in all aspects,easily one of the best games of that generation,.from the rich atmosphere,lore and enemy variety the large varied levels and deep rewarding combat.The story and narration are also very well done ....My personally favorite Castlevania and much better then the 2d crap in my opinion..,
@wackyswacky13742 жыл бұрын
@@frankbasile3662 The 2D crap is real Castlevania lol. Lords of Shadow is just an GOW ripoff.
@ExeErdna2 жыл бұрын
@@frankbasile3662 Yeah they were solid yet they came out at the WORSE time. Since people were not happy with it, then they were really not happy when they found this was the best they're gonna get since Konami doesn't care anymore.
@SebCarrasco2 жыл бұрын
The music composed for Lords of Shadows is BALLER
@ZAllen-bt6kb2 жыл бұрын
Who ever Gabriel's VA was needed a fuckin award...
@JuliusCaesar1032 жыл бұрын
Such a good video. I'm glad you took it easy on the shit parts of Lords of Shadow 2 since people at launch and even now blow them out if proportion, when they're at worst 5 minutes at a time. You don't see people ditching Dark Souls over New Izalith Ruins or Bed of Chaos, they accept those parts and enjoy the rest so I'm puzzled as to why this wasn't the case here. The game has a whole lot to offer, gameplay wise and I hope people come to understand it with time. The sequel also improved on the gameplay a huge deal. The first LoS was a great action adventure title, up there with the best of the older God of War titles in its epicness, I do understand why people were alienated because of its non Castlevania feel.
@wallacesousuke14339 ай бұрын
WTF? This cr*p is nowhere near as good as the og GoW games, or DMC, it's about as mediocre and forgettable as Dante's Inferno
@mathewhaight2 жыл бұрын
I do not care when anyone else says, Lords of shadows 2 will always be a masterpiece in my eyes. Stealth sections suck, but those are a small flaw. It always annoyed me whenever I saw people complaining about the fight against Pan's brother, where they completely ignored the ability they literally just received and say that the fight makes no sense.
@vitalyklimenchuk83922 жыл бұрын
LOS 1 is better. I love the fantastic cinematic feel of it and the Forgotten One fight is one of the coolest battles of the genre. Also the story of LOS 2 was a great disappointment. The castle and reality sections of the story should have at least been split into separate games, so much potential lost by cramming the two into a single game.
@mathewhaight2 жыл бұрын
@@vitalyklimenchuk8392 eh didn't stop me from putting three more playthroughs into it than the first game.
@tudorciubotaru34972 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it a "masterpiece" in the grand video game world, but it is one of my favourite Castlevania games. I bought it day one when it was released and I enjoyed it immensely. The only thing it lacked was another good Satan boss battle at the end. They bothered to give Lucifer that bulky design and they didn't do anything with it. And no, possessed Alucard doesn't count...
@Ckoz28292 жыл бұрын
That’s all I heard about when this game came out. Everyone focused hard on the stealth sections when there’s probably 3 or 4 of them in the game and all together make up maybe 30 minutes of total playtime, and that’s being generous. Same thing with the first game and the Shadow of the Colossus bosses. That’s only 4 bosses out of what, 15? There are legitimate flaws with these games and I’ll admit, the stealth sections weren’t very good, but I have no idea why everybody clung so tightly to that one complaint as if it ruined the entire game.
@frankbasile36622 жыл бұрын
@@Ckoz2829 I dont mind the stealth at all,it was easy and only done a few times as you said,..those creatures were designed with armor resistance to Draculas attacks so it makes sense he can't harm them,especially at reduced strength,..it was a small change of pace in the game for only a few minutes each...,
@riffcrypt84382 жыл бұрын
I only played LoS 1 but I honestly had a blast with it. Loved the Shadow of the Colossus style bosses. I've had a nearly lifelong habit of highly enjoying the Castlevania games that get critically panned. Castlevania 64, Lament of Innocence, etc. The series has rarely missed in terms of solid gameplay, it's larger crimes seem to be refusing to conform to gameplay expectations outside of the handheld metroidvania entries.
@Bourikii29922 жыл бұрын
Dude, in terms of gameplay 2 is far, far superior and the story while a little odd and unfinished feeling it's serviceable enough for a video game. But the gameplay improvements make the first game almost obsolete, also Dracula Gabriel just looks badass on top of the game visually holding up on pc.
@DSan-kl2yc Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the last thing you said. I'm not a fan of Metroidvania either(they're okay, better than this style wise). And I played lament too. And I can't agree that that's the issue here. Everyone has always known of CV's action background.
@TheBitishDragon2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Lords of Shadow suffer under the same curse that DmC does, having the name of the franchise attatched to them, without that franchise name to set expectations they are just well put together if uninspired action games that offer a good time but nothing spectaculer.
@frankbasile36622 жыл бұрын
Honestly Lords of Shadow and DmC are better then previous games in their series in many ways ,both are intriguing ,engaging very inspired action games that are spectacular in most aspects,..even to the people that can't handle change can't be blind to both games greatness
@wackyswacky13742 жыл бұрын
@@frankbasile3662 DmC is trash and when the original series came back with DMC V, Hideaki Itsuno showed us how a REAL DMC game is made.
@armedweiss55312 жыл бұрын
@@wackyswacky1374 DmC is a fine game, but compared to 3 4 and 5 it just doesn't compare. And while 1 has definitely aged the worst, it revolutionized 3D action games and that legacy can't be ignored. Add on a story and a take on Dante and Vergil that the fandom absolutely loathes and for good reason, it's no surprise that DmC as a series reboot completely flopped.
@cloudfoxdie2 жыл бұрын
@@frankbasile3662 I really like DmC, but compared to DMC1 and 3 it really comes out destroyed in terms of story and gameplay. The only thing that's better are the platforming sections
@malum94782 жыл бұрын
@@wackyswacky1374 jfc i'm not one to usually say shit like this but seriously. soyjack ass comment.
@Aripuni12 жыл бұрын
"the time when they went devil may cry" fun fact : Hideki kamiya the creator of devil may cry, his most favourite action game is "castlevania" thats why classic devil may cry has gothic atmosphere and the setting majority is in the castle because its reference to Castlevania
@aaronpischke50192 жыл бұрын
Mirror of Fate is super cheesy and fun. Never understood why it got so much hate. Great video (as always)! 💜
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
Yoshio Sakamoto said the reason Mercury Steam was chosen to make a Metroid game was because of Mirror of Fate on the 3ds. Proving that Konami is to blame.
@ironrex697911 ай бұрын
As a long time Castlevania fan who’s played nearly all the games 110%… me neither. It was solid, fun, and had a great story.
@Mitcheck3152 жыл бұрын
it's crazy that we know for sure that MercurySteam have the skill to make an amazing metroidvania game but Konami just... didn't have them do that
@DSan-kl2yc Жыл бұрын
Well Konami didn't lack Metroidvania games. They had dozens and they did fine..I doubt mecury at the time could have done a better one than igarashi. Could be wrong. What they needed was a 3d CV on the big boy consoles. That's where CV had failed the last gen... And all gens. And where that DMC and GOW money was. Unless you mean make a 3d Metroidvania.
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@DSan-kl2yc Yoshio Sakamoto said the reason Mercury Steam was chosen to make a Metroid game was because of Mirror of Fate on the 3ds. Proving that Konami is to blame.
@ironrex697911 ай бұрын
YES! Konami are the ones to blame. They screwed IGA, then Mercury Steam, and then the whole series.
@happyidiotic2 жыл бұрын
I got the 2nd game on release and it was the coolest thing ever to me
@SerfsUp18482 жыл бұрын
Yuh know. Some parts ain't that bad. Plus closest thing we've had to a blood omen game in ages so I kinda had fun too.
@SaintZaiya2 жыл бұрын
i really loved this game growing up, im glad to see that you appreciate it so much!
@HenriqueHCA142 жыл бұрын
I think we all can agree that Lords of Shadow tried to tell a story. In the old games rarely they elaborated on the story, just the same ''Dracula is back, gotta whip his ass'' and that's fine. Lords of Shadow 2 at least tried. I legit cried when Gabrielsaw his wife again, the dialogue and acting was great. But after that the story simply doesn't make sense even if you try to and the stealth sections are a buggy mess. If you have patience on the stealth parts and just turn off your brain about the story, you'll find a great game. The graphics hold up to this day, the combat is fluid and fun, the castle is fun to explore (though it doesn't make sense it's existence) and the thing that hurts the most, it's potential.
@Heronado2 жыл бұрын
I've always seen the souls borne series as a true 3d castlevania when you only look at the castlevania rpgs. They gave me the feeling of playing a 3d version of those games especially when the 2d rpgs died out.
@TheExFatal2 жыл бұрын
ESPECIALLY the first DS game
@TopHatChild2 жыл бұрын
@@TheExFatal Lordran is amazing to move trough... At least the bits preO&S
@BlueLightningSky2 жыл бұрын
The first DS was a true metroidvania. Less on the mobility more on the interconnected world
@wackyswacky13742 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Castlevania ended in 2008 and then Demon's Souls came out a year later in 2009, and it had everything you would want out of a Metroidvania but in 3D. Most Castlevania fans moved on to the Souls series and never looked back. At least, not until Bloodstained came out. Bloodstained was a decent game, but it's meager scope and budget just can't compete with the juggernaut that is Fromsoft now.
@Snyperwolf912 жыл бұрын
Castlevania ≠ Souls / borne games These are totally different beasts for me and even objectively this doesnt count as a spiritual successor . Even Bloodborne isnt really near Castlevanias identity and own brilliance . Just because both are horror-gothic in its theme doesnt mean they are alike . Bloodborne goes for eldritch horror while Castlevania goes more into the universal monster horror which later on got that romantic touch behind it ( Just look the coverart of Castlevania SotN and chronicles alone which captures Castlevania perfectly that bloodborne and Dark souls not have ) . The souls-games have huge worlds to explore that are connected to a huge event which is connected to many important creatures and persons while Castlevania is only depending on Draculas return/ressurection/rebirth alone in his always changing castle (a creature of chaos in itsself) that make it a world-shattering impact. Maybe the souls games are more like the NES/Snes/Megadrive games but even these games introduced different ideas that brought more possibilities on its mechanics to be more versatile instead in the Souls-game to be more reactionary in its gameplay. And especially the Lore of castlevania is way too different next to the souls games. Not that the Soulsborne-games are bad . The souls games are more ominous and are even sceptical in its design , lore and atmossphere which makes those games different and awesome. And Castlevania with Dark souls/bloodborne gameplay sounds unfitting or even bad . I would see more a evolved gameplay approach of castlevania 64 instead playing another souls-clone disguised as one of my favourite franchises . Would be very disheartening for me and many other castlevania fans.
@bryanmuster56622 жыл бұрын
Lords of Shadow 1 is my favorite game of all time. Great story, fantastic cast, great setting and a real sense of despair.
@gmsinlandempire224610 ай бұрын
I agree
@TheJStukes2 жыл бұрын
I love this review. So, well done. But, the funny thing is, Lords of Shadow is and will forever remain one of my all time favorite trilogies. I loved Lords of Shadow 2 so much that it’s the only game that I’ve ever beaten on the ultra hard mode.
@BenOlsberg19952 жыл бұрын
I laughed way too hard at "Ya know what, let's go drink martinis and just be giant bitches together about everyone we hate." That line fucking floored me. And that exaggerated verbal portrayal of Gabriel as Carmilla's slave had me reeling. I'd normally chime in with my own take on your commentary here, especially with me being a fairly avid Castlevania fan, but all I really want to say is this is by far one of the funniest episodes you've done in a while. Also very insightful and enlightening as always but I don't think I've laughed this hard at a game review in some time, and I generally spend my evenings eating my one square meal a day and watching a game review before I go to bed. Never stop doing what you're doing, man. Even if your opinion isn't always the popular take, your content is too entertaining not to pursue, and I'm confident you won't stop.
@hoshi3142 жыл бұрын
and funnily enough, Koji Igarashi was like "Yo Konami! You wanna revive Castlevania properly? Call me!" after Bloodstained was a success. I want to see one era in the Castlevania cannon to be covered : Demon Castle War era where the fight against Dracula is brought out worldwide a long time before Aria of Sorrow
@Akatsukileader92 жыл бұрын
Lords of Shadow is pretty great, better than some other classic Castlevanias. The voice acting and areas were great, and it was a bang for your buck since it was very very long. The DLC was also good. Then Lords of Shadow 2 attacked. The 3DS Mirror of whatever was meh.
@MKroni1 Жыл бұрын
This game gets so much Undeserved hate. These games are awesome, don't care what anyone says!
@cameronpitcher65622 жыл бұрын
I was the perfect age for this. Too young for Castlevania proper but I was all about GOW. I never beat this game back in the day, but I just beat the Lycan King. This game really holds up well honestly. Not many games are like this anymore
@CRANTIME2 жыл бұрын
It's the Shadow of the Colossus-style boss fights that intrigued me the most
@danieladamczyk40242 жыл бұрын
They not good.
@nestormelendez9005 Жыл бұрын
They pretty good
@painasura14032 жыл бұрын
I never played the old castlevania games, but i have played these. And I like these games, its my favorite games series,. I hope they make more.
@antares85182 жыл бұрын
Lament of Innocence is one of my three favorite Castlevania other than Aria of Sorrow and Symphony of The Night. so of course I welcomed Lords of Shadow when it was first announced since it quenched my thirst for 3d Castlevania at the time. and I loved it. I loved the 2nd one as well but oh boy those stealth sections nearly killed the game for me.
@Bourikii29922 жыл бұрын
The stealth sections aren't even bad. They also only last about 1 minute unless you're mentally handicapped. Only one I had trouble with was the 3 guards at one door because I forgot 20 hours ago they told you that the knife can distract guards.
@Subsaibot25262 жыл бұрын
I love how Lucifer went from skinny and petite to EXTRA THICCC in the sequel. I wanna know his workout routine
@Ckoz28292 жыл бұрын
Probably nothing special, but he did have a millennium to bulk up. And for what? All he did was possess Alucard with a considerably slimmer physique. All those gains WASTED!
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
@@Ckoz2829 Yoshio Sakamoto said the reason Mercury Steam was chosen to make a Metroid game was because of Mirror of Fate on the 3ds. Proving that Konami is to blame.
@pizzapicante272 жыл бұрын
Lord of Shadows 2 is one of those games, you know the type: "Its really bad for the first 4 hours, but then it gets good for the remaining 20"... not really something you can recommend to someone else , but something you know is worth experiencing once you already did.
@Bourikii29922 жыл бұрын
That doesn't even make sense. The tutorial level is a pretty awesome opener and the next maybe hour is some cutscenes and minor stealth. Game is great within 2 hours and amazing feeling afterwards.
@pizzapicante272 жыл бұрын
@@Bourikii2992 Ok, it doesn't make sense then, I was wrong, you're right and the game is actually shit after all, my bad.
@akgarada2 жыл бұрын
That collection of Castlevania melodies playing in the background 😎
@TyGuy90012 жыл бұрын
This is good stuff, but I’ll have to make a reminder to myself not to eat while watching these. Not because of gross stuff, but because I’m actually laughing too hard and might choke. Well done KBash.
@scrustle2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of these games, but because of the stigma that surrounds them I often dread seeing people online talk about them because it's often just yet more hate without giving them a fair shake. So I'm glad to see you actually approach them more even-handedly and give praise where its due, especially with LoS2. While it has flaws it's my favourite of the series, in part thanks to the improved combat, so I'm glad that's something you picked up on as well. It's funny when you were talking about issues with the first game's combat, and you were showing footage of the Butcher boss, I could predict exactly what you were going to bring up with that guy. That issue of the weird hitboxes is something I noticed too, but haven't seen anyone else bring it up.
@gagejoseph912 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of the original CV games, so LoS made me shudder in disgust right from the start. However, I have the mindset that you mentioned, giving things their fair shake. I might hate them from a distance, but maybe playing them would give more insight and appreciation for them. Nope. I tried. I REALLY tried. I 100%ed the first and middle games and the second game is just so painful to look at that I gave up on it within a few hours. I really, REALLY tried. Even after completing the first game, it only made me loathe the game even more because it made me realize that the game would have been better as an entirely new IP. It didn't feel like CV at all. The game isn't absolutely awful. I'd venture far enough to call it decent. But. It. Is. Not. Castlevania. Attaching the name "Castlevania" to a new IP just feels like usurping the recognizability of the brand for attention. If "Lords of Shadow" was its full name and it was a new IP that had nothing to do with CV, then I'd probably like it more, but this is such a massive departure from - and what feels like a middle finger to - the original games that I can't in good faith say that Lords of Shadow, which I gave its fair shake, has any right being a Castlevania game.
@wallacesousuke14339 ай бұрын
Cope harder, you can't simply butcher a renowned IP and expect the fans of said IP not to be revolted by this lame reboot (and even if you disregard the Castlevania name, these games are bad on their own, being nothing but lame GoW clones)
@LeoRedgrave4 ай бұрын
@@wallacesousuke1433 man I've seen you in every comment section so do us all of favor and shut up if we like it we like it if you don't you don't
@ncrtrooper71532 жыл бұрын
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
@melancholyman3692 жыл бұрын
You take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen
@Nofixdahdress2 жыл бұрын
We won't go quietly, the Legion can count on that.
@GinkgoPete2 жыл бұрын
"It was rough" yeah we only got like 1 amazing vania every 2 years :((((
@somacruzmiroku2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been a big fan of this series of CV games, but I will admit for what they are at least the first 2 games were fun. Not something I’ll play over the Igavania or even the classicvania games. I can understand why the series went in this direction, but man the series lost its identity trying to get those mainstream sales
@thomasffrench36399 ай бұрын
What I find interesting is that Ninja Gaiden is pretty much Ninja Castlevania, yet that got praise for its change, when Castlevania did a similar change and got shit for it.
@GamerGuy2492 жыл бұрын
I really liked the first one. The gameplay was fun and I was invested in the story. I just couldn't stay hooked. I would almost get there, but then I would lose interest.
@bigchiefmsu2 жыл бұрын
7:05 KBash continues to impress with the deepest cuts. Only KBash could insert decades old Balloonshop material and keep it relevant. Beautiful and a masterclass in comedy. :D
@Ckoz28292 жыл бұрын
I got a huge grin on my face from seeing that. I used to watch Balloonshop all day long. I still quote them once in awhile but I don’t think my sisters even remember what I’m referencing lol.
@SerfsUp18482 жыл бұрын
Aw. Now that.... That is a reference from the days of old. Makes me want to dance and burn up. The fuck happened to those guys. So talented.
@SerfsUp18482 жыл бұрын
Gotta churn that butter.
@ghostwolf4412 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Bloonshop clip at around 7 mins! I loved them back in the day! Also, love your videos!
@davidsavage89302 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, these were my favorite castlevania games, especially given that I got introduced to them first, at the beginning of my edgelord phase, when Robert Carlisle's dracula hit *the SPOT* for 13 year old shitlord me lol
@casualcadaver2 жыл бұрын
Lord of Shadows 1 is an amazing game that people hate on unfairly .
@Bourikii29922 жыл бұрын
2 is unfairly hated as well. Seems like people read ign type reviews or watched 2bfp complain about the mildly annoying at worst stealth sections and wrote the game off.
@beastybeard60562 жыл бұрын
Bruh... I loved the first one, I keep restarting the second one I need to finish it some day.
@hieunguyenrileygekko2 жыл бұрын
a remaster collection for ps4 and ps5 would be nice, also creating a chance for a new game
@OGRamrod Жыл бұрын
The worst part of this series is that I played the first game to completion and still cannot remember a single damn thing about it other than the twist ending.
@hey_its_me_ur_brother2 жыл бұрын
The backflip girl part is almost literally the Jack Ending Cinematic from Tekken 3 but as a fully realized game chapter and that is all I could think about while playing that part.
@Andulvar2 жыл бұрын
Complaining about Satan being in the game tells me he has never played any of the other Castlevania games.
@TheKnizzine2 жыл бұрын
I liked MoF drunk Irish Simon is Simons canon personality in both continuites in my heart.
@Morariu942 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of your criticisms but still loved these games. Their music and aesthetics have always appealed to me so much. Great video anyway! Hopefully this will bring these games to more people's attention again.
@Titan1930S2 жыл бұрын
First LOS was a damn good action game , mirror of fate was meh, the second game has a good bosses and the castle sections are pretty good but all those stealth section ruin the game
@ShoTheEmcee2 жыл бұрын
I like this rebooted universe in theory. Dracula being the first Belmont and the Belmont curse of having to fight him being a series of misunderstandings is appropriately tragic and on brand. I wish the games weren't so....7th gen. Despite some of the cool things I saw in the trailers for the first game, I didn't buy it because my thought was simply "I've seen this too many times before to be invested". I had already played Lords of Shadow without touching it and I was tired of that kind of game. I would love to see this world of Castlevania but in the Fromsoft style. In fact, I think From is the perfect studio to resurrect the series.
@DarkZero72222 жыл бұрын
You won me with that Balloon Shop insert good sir
@KingShado69 Жыл бұрын
This is still one of my favorite games out there, I didn't care who made the game, the story was good, the gameplay had me engaged and the boss battles were fun, there is no game like this today that can make me feel like a fucking badass like LOS2 did. With how fucking bad new games are I'm glad to have LOS2 to return to when I wanna have fun.
@themadhattress50082 жыл бұрын
I love the atmosphere Lords of Shadow has, but it's definitely a 'play it once' kind of game. It's good, but not get-every-trophy good. I'm glad I have it in my collection, but I've been lamenting the fact I've never gone back and played Lords of Shadow 2.
@petwisk20122 жыл бұрын
IMO LoS2 IS the best 3D Castlvania game, and i think the hate from the game IS blown out Of proportion by the fanbase, they act like the horrible stealth sections are the entire game and not a a few small sections in a mostly platforming, exploration and combat heavy Adventure
@teneesh33762 жыл бұрын
I really think you should do a kbash episodes on the God of war trilogy some day. Cause comparing the games to dmc when they are definitely more inspired by God of war is going to make so many hate comments with something like "It's not inspired by DMC. It's God of war!". They aren't the best games, but they succeed on what they try to do, for the most part
@princeofbased57302 жыл бұрын
I thought god of war was inspired by DMC
@teneesh33762 жыл бұрын
@@princeofbased5730 it is. But it's very different from DMC
@zekecontreras772 жыл бұрын
Once again my Dude you have done a phenomenal job on this series. Thank you for your well researched and entertaining video!
@JesusProtects2 жыл бұрын
Dude, always the same stuff. Oh, in this game you have to fight 3 super giant dudes and search for their weak points? "Well that was already made by shadow of the colossus" so what? No else can put giant boss battles in games anymore because that gane did it before? The only thing that matters is if it's a well made fight, and by what I see on this video it looks like it is.
@apairoftimbs92922 жыл бұрын
whats funny is that i was looking into playing the castlevania games and just got done beating sotn. crazy
@KenNakajima072 жыл бұрын
Somebody at the board: "Make it 3D? what's next? Pachinko machines?" CEO: Precisely
@helvete_ingres47172 жыл бұрын
crazy how your experience of the game outlined around 1:50 is completely the negative image of mine - I found it to be like a mouldy old sandwich with tasty filling, maybe the most extreme example of that kind of variance of quality throughout a linear single-player adventure game with painfully dull opening stages and a late-stage that seems rushed and less than half thought-through but with a middle section I found superbly satisfying with the game finding a far better flow and balance between combat, puzzles platforming etc. I don't think it's any coincidence that the middle section of the game takes place in a castle and you has you fighting vampires (the campaign has a tripartite division between the land of werewolves, vampires, and necromancers, I'm saying the vampire section was awesome and the other two kind of sucked)
@zukiezuke2 жыл бұрын
It's so wild whenever I encounter someone that is even aware of Jericho.
@TheTygre2 жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for LoS2. It was so utterly weird compared to how aesthetically bland the first game was. Rat levels, satanic space marines, Dracula vs mechs; something about it was just enduring. I certainly won’t argue that it was ‘good’, but it was definitely ‘different ’. Still though, I can understand why fans hate the series. This marked Castlevania’s death knell before being banished to the pachinko mines. Even on its own merits, the LoS series lands somewhere underneath Darksiders. But Darksiders didn’t have Captain Picard hamming it up in the VA booth, so who can say?
@shadowthehedgehog1812 жыл бұрын
One correction: Cornell, Camilla, and Zobek weren't 'ex' members. They were the founders, who were ascended. "Ex" implies they just went up and left the brotherhood
@Bourikii29922 жыл бұрын
They were the evil halves of their ascended selves.
@conmcdon2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely BASED BalloonShop reference
@hemangchauhan28642 жыл бұрын
LoS 2 section was really nicely written
@DrippleDragon2 жыл бұрын
Real shit Castlevania Lords of Shadow 1 was a treat and I loved playing it, i highly suggest giving it a try, now number 2 I had mixed feelings about but on a side note the chess mini game after figuring out how it works is actually hella fun
@CrowQQ2 жыл бұрын
Lets appriciate for a moment that Zobek was Voiced by Patrick Stewart adding to the weird suprsingly good side of first LoS. I might actually pick up mirror of fate because of this video because I thought It was more or less like the first game but just bad.
@hylianbatman31532 жыл бұрын
I genuinely loved the first game.
@wallacesousuke14339 ай бұрын
🤢
@timelincan2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to go back to number 2 . I remember the stealth sections being terrible at launch.
@pdpMASTERP5 ай бұрын
Holy shit that BalloonShop whip clip 😂 god I miss 2005 KZfaq
@tudorciubotaru34972 жыл бұрын
I still think the LoS games are among the best Castlevania ones. I'm also glad you didn't bash on LoS2 so bad. I'm thankful it was released, given the Konami situation and all.
@notimportant7682 жыл бұрын
Apparently the 3ds lords of shadow was good enough to land mercury steam the metroid 2 remake and eventually dread so
@wackyswacky13742 жыл бұрын
The main problem with these games is that they carry the Castlevania title. If they had just been called Lords of Shadow, with no connection to Castlevania, most of the players would have been a lot more lenient on them. They are decent GoW clones.
@ShadowChief1172 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the content KBash!
@Galamoth065 ай бұрын
I'm just picturing someone stumbling into a weird corpse in an alleyway one day and being like "hang on, is that Satan's dead body?"
@pinknecro2 жыл бұрын
really just is depressing because this is the last genuine attempt at a new castlevania game, and there hasnt been a new one since, and Konami sure aren't going to try again any time soon.
@CalyxTDeuced2 жыл бұрын
This video got me to find your channel, love the video, love the thumbnail art!
@matodragonespor5000 Жыл бұрын
The reason the first game was promote only as Lords of Shadows was because Mercury Steam wanted to do a Castlevania but Konami said no, so they started to work on their own game: Lords of Shadow. And when they were really advanced in development, Konami came and said "You know what? This looks good, make it a Castlevania game", so Mercury Steam had to step back and change a lot of stuff in little to no time to make the game closer to what a Castlevania would be
@adrianblania55652 жыл бұрын
I just gonna agree on one thing Lords of shadow 2 had so much potential that was wasted.
@vladtepes10472 жыл бұрын
I think you're underselling how ball-crushingly awful the Agreus section of LoS2 was. I should know, I was there.
@darrylreid81452 жыл бұрын
People say god of war like but lament of innocence released 2 years before god of war and is in a similar combat style. So I think it should get more recognition as an original idea rather then a knock off.
@boredomkiller992 жыл бұрын
One thing I think needs to be touched on about the first game's combat is how superfluous and downright risky air combing can be. Half the enemies can't be launched and out of the the ones that can half of those are not worth it cause they die in a couple hits. This goes into the next problem of the game which is enemies are regulated to segments of the game. Unlike something like GOW, MGR or DMC were enemies are introduced then put into group of other enemies to create variety of situations, most enemies are introduced fought for a segment of the game then never appear again. This is pretty bad and makes a whole 40% of your moveset being useless against 70% of the enemies which ud really apparent as there will be stretches of the game were you should never use air combat. This gets to the next problem which is that unlike DMC were part of going airborne is that it can help you avoid a lot of attacks while safely dispatching a enemy which makes extending air time beneficial, being in the air leaves you locked out of most of your defensive options which is really apparent in the dlc boss fight as you have to quick descent first to block or dodge but be in the air to hit his weak point. Last thing is the double jump which is the ability that breaks open the juggle system of the game is gotten after the last area where air combos are even a viable part of combat, WTF. Thankful the sequel fixed all these problems
@Noz_FGC2 жыл бұрын
I never thought in a million years a videogame youtuber would insert a balloonshop clip. If i wasnt already subscribed, that wouldve convinced me to do so. YOU BOYS QUIT THAT WHIPPIN
@logicalphallusry2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you. Especially since I could only stomach LoS for a couple of hours before becoming deathly bored. Lament of Innocence was good though.
@Ckoz28292 жыл бұрын
I had the complete opposite effect lol. I loved Lords of Shadow but Lament of Innocence nearly bored me to tears with its level design. The combat wasn’t half bad, the story and characters were good, and the music was great. But I always hated trudging through that barren castle where every room looks identical and are connected by mile long hallways.
@loppi97102 жыл бұрын
Your channel has grown so much , i watched your golden sun reviews and back then you only had like 1000 subs
@blackbirdgriffin Жыл бұрын
Nice Vid man, finished C: LOS 2 recently and had a blast, can't wait to get my hands on C LOS 1. :)
@ChaoticPesme752 жыл бұрын
Despite the story being utter nonsense, despite Gabriel being a pathetic Dracula and despite all the other things, LoS2 is my favorite of the rebooted saga. Why ? Probably because of the non linearity that was lacking in LoS1, I was so disappointed it was a linear set of stages after playing all the metroidvanias before, including SotN at its launch. Also the whole dialogue between the Paladin and Gabriel is one the most badass things I've ever seen in a video game.
@SerfsUp18482 жыл бұрын
Yuh know. The second one. Some parts ain't that bad. Plus closest thing we've had to a blood omen game in ages so I kinda had fun.
@StockeTepes2 жыл бұрын
Even with all its shortcomings I’m still surprised Lord of Shadows 1 is the best selling Castlevania game of all time. Makes sense seeing how much was behind this reboot, but disappointing as a hardcore fan looking at how much this series has to offer
@gagejoseph912 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised. That doesn't mean I LIKE the game or that I think it deserved the attention, but considering how these things go? Mentioning the word "reboot" is a marketing boost in and of itself. Plus, the first game was announced around the time that God of War was still in people's minds. Is it a faithful CV game? God no. But it checks all the boxes for "What will grab the mainstream's attention?" And it did. Basically, I'm not surprised it was such a success because its success is largely predicated on NOT being a faithful CV game. The previous games did fine, but this reboot is like launching an entirely new IP while wearing the CV skin. If the previous games were ever going to sell as good, they would have already. It's the change itself that allowed LoS to be successful. So quite literally, NOT being a faithful CV game is what gave it such success. Other examples of this: Tales of Arise and Breath of the Wild. Massive departures from the formulas of their predecessors, which allowed them to be massive successes by drawing in new fans the prior games couldn't appeal to. None of what I just said can be translated as "These games are good" or "These games are bad". It's just the fact that these games....are. They prove that a game's quality is irrelevant. If quality put bvtts in seats, earlier titles would have filled those seats already.
@hey_its_me_ur_brother2 жыл бұрын
Honestly not that surprising if you consider the platforms each game was released on. Of course games that are released on ps/xbox/pc will sell more than one that is exclusive to a thing. And since a lot of fans of the old Castlevanias got burned by LoS 1 they didn't bother with the other reboot releases. Hence why they did worse.
@Bourikii29922 жыл бұрын
Seemed pretty faithful to me, loads of different monsters, Christian themes, chain whip, Dracula. Certainly more fun than any other 3D attempt at castlevania to boot. First one is good but the second game is far less frustrating by simply adding a God damn air dodge.
@jaymesmuir88282 жыл бұрын
You're honestly amazing at reviewing series critically. Keep up the amazing work man!
@mattmagliocca9562 жыл бұрын
I like the first LoS for the most part (until the completely obvious example of Patrick Stewart's betrayal, and the transparent revelation of who killed Garbriel's life and then we end up fighting Satan which is a huge shark jumping moment). The Shadow of the colossus elements were nice. Some characters like Laura and Carmilla were somewhat interesting. I don't like Quick Time events but these weren't the worst I've seen. The best aspects of the game I thought were how big and immersive the world was. The graphics of the world were pretty good at the time. LoS2 was absolutely freaking awful. I have nothing nice to say about it. Even at the end of the game a guy with a big gun can one shot the Lord of Darkness. My favorite part of LoS2 is where Dracula rides the exploding gas tank. That told me we had crossed the line into full goddamn parody....
@heuerbardemston40872 жыл бұрын
you know my boy kbash got taste when he thinks mirror fate is an okay game because its my favorite out of all the lords of shadows games
@orangeslash1667 Жыл бұрын
Yoshio Sakamoto said the reason Mercury Steam was chosen to make a Metroid game was because of Mirror of Fate on the 3ds. Proving that Konami is to blame.
@papervoxels2 жыл бұрын
While I agree with the majority of what was said in this video, I have to disagree about the opening to Lords of Shadow 2 being a highlight. I loved Lords of Shadow (admitted Darksiders simp here ☺), so I was crazy hyped for LoS2, but when I played the demo, which was just the opening segment of the game, it deflated my expectations completely and I didn't even support it at launch, only playing the full game for the first time years later when I got it on deep sale on Steam. On paper that opening is the greatest nerd shit ever imagined, but in practice it was incredibly disappointing, to the point that when I finally played through the game I was furious that the devs divorced those segments so completely from the actual gameplay, which was way more enjoyable and would have guaranteed a day 1 purchase from my had the demo included a later game segment instead of the intro. And I'm sure you hear this all the time, but your voice is amazing and I hope you get some VO work in an RPG some day 🙂
@tuggywoolsack2 жыл бұрын
AHHHHH A BALLOON SHOP REFERENCE! A GOD AMONG US! Thank you KBash for honoring my favorite video from childhood
@cliftonsargent15722 жыл бұрын
Perfect video for my Friday, I’ll be taking lunch early to watch this. Thanks kbash
@JuliusCaesar1032 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting on this video for years. Curious to see if you'll like the second on as much as I do.
@mahdimerzaei79852 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with los 2 was the stealth in the first game nothing could phase you not even satan and you didnt have that much power back then. But the stealth sections ruined the power fantasy why should I hide from a goat if I can kill it literally 4mins later?