deathinfatuated I don’t see his dilated eyes

I honestly believe the son is suffering from a depressive disorder . Drinking and smoking- addictive behaviours , are all associated with depressive disorder and he is displaying many signs of it. Saying he cant quit, but no admitting his is addicted is also typical addict behaviour. He needs to speak to some professional therapists. Mental health in young people( males especially) isn't paid enough attention to in korea

@@mygradeflife2754 this could be true because if his parents divorced when he was 8 he might've blamed himself or just got too caught up in the mess. as a child of divorced parents i am also struggling with depressive disorder besides some other things like anxiety and ptsd so i do understand what he went through and it is possible for him to be struggling with some mental illness. i also do understand him when it comes to alcohol and smoking(weed) because i also did use that to make myself feel better but hence my mom is an alchoholic and my dad is a drug addict i saw what it did to them, their marriage and in the longer term me and my sister. i do think he is addicted but as long as he doesnt want to admit he has a problem theres absolutely no way he's getting better any time soon. i really wish he realises it and gets proper help because if he doesnt i am really worried about his future.

My dark circles and hand tremors are way more than his but I haven't touched any sort of drug or alcohol my whole life

The shaky hands might be due to anxiety. A close friend of mine has the exact same thing, hand tremors. She was diagnosed for it being some sort of anxiety thing. Maybe that's what he has considering that he said he had it before he started drinking.

Hope u grow to be a healthy and strong human .

@@arosathi5800 thank you so much

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i am so glad you realised your father is precious early. Some people only know that after their parents gone forever.

@@reidesuga yeah, i was a big mess on middle school. Even until now i still feel sorry everytime i look at my dad going home late after work :(

i agree with you. its quite obvious that smoking and drinking is his coping mechanism because of the things happening in his life...

That’s exactly what I thought!!!

Nice fanfic

Omg! Thank you! I thought the same. He clearly has attachment issues bc of the divorce and is showing avoidant and self destructive behaviors. That boy just needs a lot of love and support and a good psychologist to help him out figure out what's on his mind. I cried when I saw this video, bc I've been through similar issues and I still live with anxiety to this day bc of my childhood traumas. I too lived like nothing was wrong until I was 15 and then I started to understand that my childhood was just wrong. I had similar coping mechanisms, but thankfully, I was able to go through life and solve my issues on my own with the help of a therapist a few years later, but just like my therapist said, I am not the norm. So I can only imagine what this poor boy is going through. I was able to sustain all of this and become a healthy adult, but the majority of these kids usually continue showing the self destructive behaviors in their adult life. Btw, the fact that the father is permissive is not a good thing. Permissive parenthood is not healthy and does not create secure attachment. Besides, he's only permissive because he wants to ignore the fact that he has not been able to give the support the child needs. Look, I can understand that being a single parent is hard, but it's not the child's responsibility to understand that. Single parenthood is problematic. Most children from single parent households develop psychological problems that usually stem from a lack of secure attachment. Sure it may be hard for the father, but it's not the child's fault. The child has not asked to be born into a single parent household. We're talking about a minor here. Not an adult. Children need love and support. And most of the time, a single parent's best effort is NOT enough. It's the hard truth. If he's not able to solve the issue on his own, it's the father's responsibility to look for professional help. The child has to understand nothing. The child doesn't have to act like an adult. And I'm here to tell everyone that acting like an adult when you are a kid, reverse roles will leave scars for the rest of your life, bc I have been through it. So don't ask the child to "be the bigger person" or "be more understanding". The child is already blaming himself enough! These comments are the worse and really triggered me. Sorry if I sound too harsh.

YESSS ugh its so sad

You are right... both need theraphy to connect again with each other

I just want to sit with him and listen to whatever he feels. I want to accompany him, make he feel better and more comfortable.

I think both of them need therapy

Yeah even I felt bad for him. He fall into a dangerous path and it's not his fault, it happens to a lot of people and it's okay but hope he can recover from this addiction. It might have been hard for him as well. Such a young boy.

@@tomorrow. yes but there are lot of ppl out there who don't do that while living hard life it's not abt drinking nd smoking he is just being a brat with nonsense reason ,he is rude, ignorant nd cunning for his own good like he is the only one having feelings .think abt the father what joy he had in his life nd his son is totally inconsiderate .u know wrong PPL who uses right excuses to make them look right . He want everything but can't talk to his father while he is begging to talk. His attitude is problematic.

Yeah, sometimes they stay way too quiet, but I'm glad she said something.

She wasn’t mad with that perverted dad smh

@@nnh4744 how is the dad perverted?

@@chloekim7208 It's about another concern

reyanime They probably stay quiet because the can’t believe what they are hearing, if you know what I mean. They are not professionals, it is an entertainment show after all. But I think this show is to help these people start to change and move away from their problems.

I feel bad for the son as well

I agree...everyone was talking about how his eyes look tired cause he is mentally suffering and while I agree that there could be something going on behind the scenes...but those are the eyes of an addict and I can say this cause I have seen those up close before...he NEEDS rehab

yes, i found that so heartbreaking..

it really looked like he was numb and hes dealing with major shit. But everyone just went against him rather than ask him if he was okay or if there was a true reason behind this. I believe he needs to get his mental health checkup because i can promise you, hes depressed

Joyce Chen that’s the biggest grievance I have about this show. They treated him like a criminal instead of a victim. barely scratched surface about what’s going on with him & I agree, he’s depressed - those eyes say a lot & his dad is hurting as well cause he’s trying but doesn’t know what to do.

@@ElsieBabyixo i think they provide professional help too... they just don't air it

@@factsonly4930 Doubt it... its Korea

You're correct and the legal drinking age in SK is 20 (western 18)

Drink Bleach 21 in America

@@lmontferr Theyre saying that in Korea the legal drinking age is 20 which would be the equivalent of being 18 in the US

Allie Foster Ik I was saying that the legal drinking age in *america* is 21

@@lmontferr sorry i read the comments wrong 😬😬

Cultural differences... Sadly people from different countries see things differently, which for us is shocking, but for them it's normal. But again, it's just the culture, some cultures are more accepting of certain things whereas others aren't.

In my opinion, mostly in asia or asian people especially when youre a male, people are not strick on you. They do not judge you heavily as female. Male critics tends to be push asibe because of their "good" quality. . . . With this issue, it's very minimal, and we think we have a much tougher situations than this. We also see this at any generation...we see this as rebelion or the person has nothing else to do because the parents are too good to them. Personally, i don't really see this as a big problem, just a bit since it is affecting his studies. Btw, most asian men tend to get into either smoking or drinking at any age they want to start then it's very hard to take it from them.

I think because the crowd is mixed in ages. From a parent or mature adult perspective this is obviously wrong, but I can imagine many of the young adults his age and in their early 20s that are in the audience don't see it is as a big deal and think the dad is just overreacting

Where I'm from this is totally normal. We are allowed to drink in public at age 18 and usually on Saterdays we drink a bit of wine with our families (religion). I know alot of the girls in my age smoke, drinking isn't weird to do though it depense where since we aren't allowed in public or to drink in the streets in general (unlike Korea). The son has to understand why what he's doing is wrong since it effecting his studies. [sorry if my english isn't the best]

Everyone saying here it's not a big concern in Asia but no its actually wrong, just think realistically. The continent doesn't even matter because I think everything is the same. Of course mmy things it's a big issue but as much people who thinks it's a issue there is many who thinks it's not that shocking even though its wrong

Or more like they had to go counseling all together.

Laura Barnes why would you disagree

Laura Barnes well u have to have reasons

Maisie Zoer He definetely needs to get help ! I don’t think it is a solution to leave the house, it would only lead to another problem, and he needs his dad, and sister to reconnect, and build a healthy stable family !!!! He needs love, and care so he could heal ! My heart breaks when i see teens/yound adults, they are all so important, even if they fall sort , and the father needs to be more persistent, and take a break from work to have the time for conversation with his son face to face, so he could open up, and not being in this crazy cycle of thinking that his father will hurt him! The other important help should be from his mother , even if they don’t spoke in years. They should speak to him to him honestly , not how to fix the problem or what not to do, instead first the conciquences about his behavior, and his life will not go instantly from bad to good, if he don’t choose/want to have , he needs to see his worth, and change school if needed, for a new start, and start to go therapy,church,rehab and found real friends who have a good influence on him, keep him away from trouble! He have to value his life , and make long term decisions for his future. He needs a healthy enviorment for his mental,phyical health socially I think that’s why he needs a new institute ,community of people like a group of teenagers with the same problem like therapy group . I really want to see his face full of life! 🙌🏻😥❤️

Diamond Ray his father never spent time with his son and when he slapped him, the son took it harder than if they had ever bonded, since he was so disconnected with his father before and the only actual interaction was a slap, he hates his father. he sees his father struggling but doesn’t care

the point is that son only received material things from his dad. He is addicted because he wasn't raised properly and being addicted always comes from deep emotional problems. Don't think he isn't ashamed ,but it's not how it works , addiction is sickness and it's hard to stop. He is lonely you can see that clearly. And his father slapping him was a trauma to him. No matter what if you already feel bad about yourself , every action or word can hurt much more. I don't like the attitude of the hosts here, the boy needs psychological support and it's not his fault he is not emotionaly well, the circumstances did this to him.

If the father doesn’t buy him alcohol, he will steal and illegally drink/smoke with his friends. He was caught continuously SO MANY TIMES, that’s why the father told him to drink and smoke at home hence there’s no way to speak senses into him... What else could you do in that situation ? Watching your son sitting in jail? He probably know that it’s not right to do so but he has no choice. Idk it was a difficult decision.. imo personally. If he would stop when the father doesn’t buy him those stuff then that’s a different case.

@@pizzajam6494 c

You were fully correct...

Yes,its not healthy

So if i say "one of my classmates has more darker bags" would it be bad? Bc no one really cared about it😶😶😶😶but he wasnt bullied

bro what i naturally have dark circles but i guess since im sleep deprived it makes them look even worse

I have them naturally ;-;

Beatrize Kirstt Gabutina my friend has the darkest eye circles but she only gets 4-6 hours of sleep a night. she said it’s because during the summer she use to take naps during the day causing her sleeping schedule to get all messed up, but tbh her mom should’ve done something about it. her dark circles are blackish.

Me too... after looking at the boy...because the boy is looking so young. I feel so bad.

Thats true but i think they were referring to his attitude and resistance to start trying and change the habits in the first place. He didn’t say he would try and it would be difficult, he just said he wouldn’t be able to stop, which is why they were frustrated. If he had agreed to at least attempt to quit i think they would’ve seen his will to change, but he didn’t show that. He does need rehab and time though, and it seems he might be under some mental stress and issues. Hopefully he gets the help he needs :(

SuJu_Mimi I cried when she started talking. You felt her pain and frustration.

exactly!

That's why she is one of my favorite MCs

Since he is teenager he SHOULD quit drinking and smoking although he CAN'T.

He will be left with soo much regret in the future.. I already feel bad for him

yea, it’s so heartbreaking.. i think he has anxiety and really lost his faith in support from his family

:((

They do after the show they get counseling.

@@michellekercy4430 how do you know?

@@imaanansar3393 they have follow up ep

@@sanasb6553 where is it

@@anjaliroy6843 once in ten or twenty episode they will show how much they improve

Well im an anti natalist firstly. i totally agree. The boy is suffering too. I feel bad for him.

Ina J it’s his fault that he’s not doing well lol. he’s a spoiled brat who uses his “traumatic” experience with his dad to get what he wants. i don’t feel bad for him at all.

@@joongult ok im just going to state my opinion. From my perspective, he uses that exuse because theres something more going on, something he doesn't want to tell them. I could be wrong. But this is just how i feel

I understand what you're thinking of the son is not fully in fault here. I also understand my everyone is in his father's side more. I think the reason why the son is turning like that maybe because of the absence of a mother's figure that make him somehow feeling lonely without realising. It's also part of his father's wrongdoing to spoil his kids with money without providing them more communications as family. I think the son needs to open his heart for his father, and his father needs to be more discipline for his son. They will get better, I know if both of them want to be more understanding..

He's an addict who manipulates his father to get what he wants. It's what addicts do. My cousin did the same to her mother.

I guess its because he smokes one pack a day or maybe he was just born with it lol

I know I’m 2 years late though.. but he is clearly addicted and can’t just quitt even if he would try. They/ his dad should have went with him to a rehab instead of the show bc the show didn’t really help him

i also did think he was high every now and then when they're asking him questions he seemed very confused and disoriented

High as a kite

I was assuming he was high too. He seemed lost a few moments

I don't think having any type of parents would help, once a kid is like this, a beating won't help, I recommend him seeking a rehab center.

weed is really hard to find therefore is really expensive in korea so theres no way a kid this young would be able to get his hands on it. If anything hes probably just tired or hungover. Drinking alc takes a toll on your body and he probably drinks to not feel tired and depleted

I got $0 my whole life

@@Najia93 MOOD

I never got any😂 my parents told me if I want money to get a job and at 15 I sure as hell did and was working 15 hours during school months and 30+ hours during the summer.

Idont get allowance ;( $1 for a decade is enough

I get no money at all......😂😔😂

KSKSKSKSKS thats why i thought he was cute then

Honestly his friends might be in similar situations. Just as messed up as his situation is, theirs might be too, maybe even worse. That's not something one person starts but more likely a result of many stupid ideas together that got offhand and noone can control them anymore. So I think the question is not how everything started but how can this be stopped? The son really looks like a drug addict (not saying he's taking illegal things but honestly if you're as addicted to alcohol and cigarettes as he is, then you're a drug addict) and he should get professional help asap. He even himself said he doesn't think he's able to quit.

No in my opinion I think If he is having hand tremor problem he should tell his dad bcus he is old enough . His dad is always working and have too many things in his head to be concern about. My mom is also always busy to make money. Even if I have fever she don't know cus she can't be 24/7 hours wiht me so I have to tell her to let her know

And I think his dad has eyes problem he blinks to often . And he is too thin

so truuu

Alcohol problems are even more severe in Korea, since a lot of the, are forced to drink...

I’m not glad he’s living in Korea. He should be treated for his addiction right away.

lol what? korea has a stigma against mental illness so he will probably never get healed of his addiction. and btw just bc drugs arent as common in korea doesnt mean koreans dont do drugs.. they do

Baako Jernigan, haha. It could be pretty bad in Australia as well. Considering that you can drink and purchase alcohol at 18.

He was catch stealing before , the father limiltless his card to avoid his son doing that again

Ur father will always be looking upon u from heaven. Don't be sad dear exol fam 💙

@@benwu6974 thank you fam 😢😊

But by international age he is 16 only in korea 18

life is gud plus in korea your are only an adult when you are 20 because of the two years you get extra

What ur from? America?

life is gud Asia is more conservative remember that

lotee ik even as a American I can say this is horrible