Seree and Sipa Weroha gave FOX4 Problem Solvers a tour of the land they purchased more than 30 years ago. Land that was stolen from them in March by scammers posing as them.
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@calidreams537920 күн бұрын
The notary and real estate agent needs to be investigated thoroughly.
@sting11420 күн бұрын
Most likely they are friends or family members working with each other
@issahumps20 күн бұрын
Nope, they were scammed too
@sting11420 күн бұрын
@@issahumps I see it with my own eyes notarizer and agents working together scamming people
@jeremyhall272720 күн бұрын
Oh, without a doubt
@geoleo259720 күн бұрын
Stolen notary stamp?? If so did that notary report it to the notary office? Notaries know that those stamps are a legal identification item and they are responsible for its use. That sounds suspicious right there
@zion986020 күн бұрын
The listing agent needs to be investigated.
@myohmy020 күн бұрын
That agent sounds fishy for sure...She is either incompetent or greedy or both!
@Tes700020 күн бұрын
I'm sure the listing agent will be investigated, but the real problem in this situation was with the notary.
@PatrickBaptist9 күн бұрын
Not the title company who should have researched the property?
@winniethepoohandeeyore220 күн бұрын
The realtor, title company and the notary need to be investigated. A fraudulently acquired property ISNT A LEGIT LAND TRANSFER. Meaning it is NULL AND VOID.
@TruthbeforeTrust9 сағат бұрын
Why would the state honor the transfer?
@paladro20 күн бұрын
if you didn't sign anything, the sale is fraud... the realtor is on the hook for not doing due diligence on the paperwork.
@Tes700020 күн бұрын
I agree, and in this case, due diligence is verifying the credentials of the notary who verified signatures of clients living out of state and who have never appeared in person. I am sure the real estate agent will be asked if she ever facetimed the clients to connect them to those IDs.
@DonnaleaSpencer12 күн бұрын
kudos to the Title Company in the pending second transaction for seeing the Red Flags.
@davebruneau606820 күн бұрын
There is CLEARLY a problem in a country where anything like this can happen. Period.
@stevenrunyon17020 күн бұрын
Well, we do live in a country where someone can go into your house and claim they belong there than it can take up to a year to kick them out and all the cops say is its a civil matter. Yeah this country has a problem.
@stevez513420 күн бұрын
the interesting thing if you put it on the blockchain and said whoever has the deed in their phone wallet is the owner, the problem becomes people completely lose access to their private keys or let's say they rob you at gunpoint for the "deed". but social engineering and analog paper things with the government is a point of failure
@Sense7120 күн бұрын
In other countries you can't even own property it belongs to everyone aka Socialism l if you don't like this country get out, if you are not here, dont come, and worry about your own country 🤡
@Sense7120 күн бұрын
@@stevenrunyon170 then go somewhere else if you don't like this country, who are you voting for? Cause unlike other countries we actually can vote for people, so who you voted for put those rules into place, nothing to do with this country 🤡
@jadentsai196020 күн бұрын
Of course we also live in a country that can make a person can break into your home and say it there that just how bad is it while we had to pay tax and etc
@rice15Life20 күн бұрын
The realtor who listed the property is in on it.
@sting11420 күн бұрын
And the notarizer also . They all work together
@lmcc007211 күн бұрын
She was either in on it or was just interested in getting the commission. Maybe the scammers offered her a “bonus” if she overlooked a few things.
@nativestacker418520 күн бұрын
I find it disturbing that when this type of crime happens , The Homeowner is always made out to be the responsible party , but in reality it is usually The Title Company The County or The Bank that gets scammed , but they want no responsibility .
@Tom-mu7zy20 күн бұрын
The land is not gone. Fraud does not constitute a legitimate land transfer. This is why the buyer gets title insurance. Title insurance is going to get a lot more expensive as more title insurance companies get scammed.
@lnbt113 күн бұрын
Exactly! That's what i was going to say. The main reason why we are paying so much for the Title Company is to validate the authenticity of the property, owners, and buyers and anything else that are required to complete the transaction legally. It calls Title Insurance, isn't it?
@Freebird-112220 күн бұрын
I’m more annoyed at the multitude of systems that maintain loopholes than the scammers.
@4motofanatic20 күн бұрын
I too was a victim of this exact crime. However, fortunately there was a for sale sign put up on my retirement property, which caused my future neighbors to call me and ask if I was selling, to which I replied no. had it not been for that I very well may have had my retirement property sold. I was assured that at the title co level it would have not gone through as a sale. The realtors are not in on the scam, they are a victim as well. In my case I was hit twice in about 4 months. The first attempt was by an Asian speaking person posing as me, the second an African speaking person. The had all the id etc. but were fakes. The FBI became involved and told me this is a known problem, and it even originates from out of country. So please be aware...
@leonardodalongisland20 күн бұрын
EVERYTIME someone says they are "out of town," they are actually saying, "I'm a scammer." How do people continue to fall for this BS?
@xxivoryy5 күн бұрын
I’m actually trying to sell some properties/ orchards my dad gave us , but I’m not ready to even start the selling process thinking everyone is thinking I’m a scammer 😭😭🤣
@leonardodalongisland4 күн бұрын
@@xxivoryy Go through a well-established real estate company. Don't do it on your own. Where do you live?
@adrijackson942920 күн бұрын
So sorry 😞 this happened to them. On another note I am so sick and tired of people being told what to do to protect themselves..... meanwhile the fraudulent perpetrators are rarely identified and punished appropriately.
@savemyneighborhood20 күн бұрын
The authority is not helping or doing the job
@lil----lil20 күн бұрын
So, the county LET someone BUYING the property WITHOUT a SINGLE PHYSICAL BODY present. ALL done remotely. This is incompetency at the highest level. I DON'T CARE if you live in the North pole, if you're BUYING property, you need to be PRESENT to physically sign it - IN PERSON. PERIOD.
@koreyb20 күн бұрын
or at least send your statutory agent who is registered with the county where the transaction is taking place. Legal firms have to do this if they are located in a different state.
@JustMe-dn9fh19 күн бұрын
Well actually these scammers sold the property out from underneath the real owners. Also, my family sold a property a few months ago to out of state people. They never showed up in person to close on the property. Their realtor and ours actually handled everything. It went fine.
@jonathantorres886516 күн бұрын
Not incompetence but corruption!
@MartenKrueger-sx4me15 күн бұрын
Exactly! So called convenance, puts all person info on the web, opening up to fraud....
@Qrayon15 күн бұрын
Period?
@West_Coast20 күн бұрын
The notary and real estate agent needs to be criminally charged.
@plainsman971720 күн бұрын
Your drivers license is also handed over when you are asked for them in medical offices. Hospitals and medical offices get hacked constantly.
@Tes700020 күн бұрын
True, but in this case, the scammers faked up the driver's licenses probably using some random pictures they got somewhere. The real estate agent erred in not FaceTiming the scammers.
@user-ln7of9gs4s16 күн бұрын
Finger prints should be required for real estate transactions to verify the identity. Notary stamps can not be trusted.
@coffeegator603320 күн бұрын
The seal was stolen? Is there no registry for lost/stolen seals or is literally every single notary seal out there still valid?
@koreyb20 күн бұрын
This seems like a simple way to fix this. Change the law to state that the notary must be contacted by the title company to verify that they really did notarize the documents. No longer just blindly accept notarized documents because it has become too easy to fake them.
@aniwack12 күн бұрын
The problem is our numbers are publicly listed by the courts. Amazon will make a seal with no questions asked. I can reproduce any seal and the original notary would never know.
@koreyb12 күн бұрын
@@aniwack and this is why the title company should be required to reach out to the notary to confirm that they really did notarize the document before proceeding. One other step would be to also reach out the person whose signature was notarized to make sure they did really sign it. Yes, it would take more time and would be more expensive, but much better than what happens after someone steals your property out from under you.
@MaxPower-119 күн бұрын
I don’t think they meant that the physical stamp was stolen. Rather somebody at simply faked it.
@Ay-B20 күн бұрын
Thank you, Alpha Title!
@metsrus20 күн бұрын
Names, pictures, addresses, social security, and phone number can be stolen, but fingerprints can't. why did the u.s. move away from fingerprints when making important transactions? Convenience is not what you want when making these kinds of huge transactions, maintaining security is more preferal.
@ralphneighbors375220 күн бұрын
We didn't "move away". It was never required before for real estate transactions.
@techshabby000119 күн бұрын
Good job, Alpha Title company employees. You saved the day!
@user-dj1sg3hm5i20 күн бұрын
America is so broken it's not even funny! I had my identity stolen a few years ago (before Life Lock although they got hacked also) but the system, made ME the victim feel like I had done something wrong. The credit bureaus make you do the heavy listing to correct mistakes, law enforcement was no help, the banks are no help on and on and on and it was SO disgusting and frustrating. You have to start from scratch and prove EVERYTHING and it took a while to get my credit, dignity and life back. I don't wish it on ANYONE!
LMAO THE NOTARY CAME UP WITH SOME BS LIE 😂 THATS FKN COMEDY 😂😂😂
@MartenKrueger-sx4me15 күн бұрын
Right! If a seal was stolen, was it reported to police, And is there a void list, that invalidates the seal?
@kidneycarecoaching376615 күн бұрын
Thank god the title stopped the larger land sale.
@chiefs816kc20 күн бұрын
The realtor for the scammers is in on it!
@imofftheleantho20 күн бұрын
She’s Hispanic, the Hispanic ones are pretty shady it’s usually 50/50 chance. And yes this is coming from a Hispanic lmao
@stevenmitchell120 күн бұрын
How do you know? Friends of yours?
@DavidHo-nq7np6 күн бұрын
@@stevenmitchell1 yours
@PCTechVince20 күн бұрын
Gotta be careful who you show your ID always keep an eye if someone wants to copy it.
@rudyjean555020 күн бұрын
They just need your name and that’s it, they don’t need to see it.
@PhrontDoor20 күн бұрын
It's on file with the DMV and ALL DMVs sell their records.
@paladro20 күн бұрын
you do realize it doesn't matter who you show your ID to... its out there, in some database, which is vulnerable to breach or worse yet, the company will just sell your data to whomever will pay.
@777hc77711 күн бұрын
When I renewed my driver's license, they requested my social security card and birth certificate and they scanned it into their system. They didn't even ask me if I approved them doing that. What the hell? That is too much information out there
@javaskull8811 күн бұрын
Title companies should begin requiring fingerprints for real estate transactions.
@donnam506013 күн бұрын
Fingerprints should be required on property transfers. Then even if the id is faked, fingerprints are harder to fake
@labelledujour585513 күн бұрын
Great idea.
@raUL-ik4sn20 күн бұрын
Sounds like more than 2 scammers are working on this scam. How can a realtor be duped twice?
@denniscarver768120 күн бұрын
Fool me once?
@sting11420 күн бұрын
Notarizer work with them . I see thousands of them
@angelavanhorn232520 күн бұрын
FBI must get on this sick thieves!
@Misaka-gt5yj20 күн бұрын
That alert barely works. You won't get a notification from the county office btw. Also in LA it's delayed by 48 hrs. Way too long for an "alert"
@falls248820 күн бұрын
i think all realestate transactions should have both parties appear in person in the office of an attorney or judge.
@robertmanley268720 күн бұрын
In Georgia you need a lawyer to close
@ralphneighbors375220 күн бұрын
And that's a whole 'nuther issue.
@waynelucier167819 күн бұрын
Any police officers or sheriff's department or judges who allow this to happen has lost their honor and are nothing but aiders and abbeters and makes them culpable in crime
@lashurediscussion497015 күн бұрын
Desperate measure calls for a lot fraud. As someone who worked in real estate. This scenario in my opinion appears to be an inside job. Unless things changed checks and balances are in place to avoid this. For a title company not to catch this. Seems odd.
@JohnSmith-js3po20 күн бұрын
Multiple dirty people in different job titles can make this happen 😮
@Stevenmuzic15 күн бұрын
Something is wrong when its easier to stole a property than buying a gun in america
@DRventura33320 күн бұрын
That realtor and notary were in on the scam and someone is working at DMV with these scammers. Checks and Balances MUST be in place. This is JUST ridiculous. Sue all those companies and the county.
@MothOrchid-em3ms14 күн бұрын
Sounds like a few a conspiring together!
@sharont120 күн бұрын
This is what a broken system looks like before it crumbles to mere historical site WITH only worthless mass production artifacts left behind.
@jaygee673820 күн бұрын
AUTOMATIC ALERTS SHOULD BE DEFAULT AND CLEARED IN PERSON WHEN A SALE IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!
@alpark302420 күн бұрын
real estate agent just wanted a commission
@ChristianWagner88815 күн бұрын
The property was not stolen, as it is still in the same place and the buyer cannot take possession of it because the buyer never became the legal owner. The buyer is the one who has been defrauded , as his money is gone for a contract that is null and void. Hopefully he will get his money back through his title insurance.
@mks614813 күн бұрын
Why the hell is this happening in America?? This type of thing never happens in the poorest countries.
@MartenKrueger-sx4me15 күн бұрын
Simple fix.... MO TRANSFER OR SALE OF HOMES....EVER, OWNERS, SELLERS AND BUYER'S, MUST BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT, UNLESS DECEASED OR ILL, THEN A FULLY VETTED REPRESENTATIVE, IS PRESENT.
@Mlogan1115 күн бұрын
County property recorder/assessor office is NOT doing their due diligence against fraudulent requests and applications. Title office is the LAST line of defense.
@MaxPower-119 күн бұрын
That’s not their job. Their job is to record documents in the official record. It’s the job of the title company which ultimately guarantees the real-estate transaction. That’s why you buy title insurance. The title company did not do their full diligence and now they (or their insurance company) will have to pay up. The other title company associated with the other transaction did pick up on the fraud and stopped the transaction.
@Mlogan119 күн бұрын
@@MaxPower-11 By your logic, spies and terrorists will be able to legitimately buy property under false ID and as long as the transactions are legit and pass Title Check, they will never be caught. We have government ID for a reason. If it's not going to be validated by agencies, then it's pretty much worthless.
@Mlogan119 күн бұрын
@@MaxPower-11 If the government agencies are not responsible for due diligence in validating ID, then spies and worse with money will be able to infiltrate the country using false ID if they pass Title Check with a legal purchase. We have government provided ID's for a reason. If other government agencies are not responsible for validating it, then it's easily defeated and worthless.
@chewie941169 күн бұрын
The real estate agent, notary and someone in the title company were all involved in the scam. How they all never returned calls and then disappeared is very concerning.
@Thegardenofeden2411 күн бұрын
We must catch those scammers ,it's enough
@ryannt18 күн бұрын
The realtor was definitely in this as well
@chrismuller278020 күн бұрын
All those charges and fees collected by the middlemen of real-estate is SUPPOSED to protect marketplace participants. Instead, we discover it's all just paper to facilitate the illusion. An industry that's still living in the time when we had Kodak and travel agents, still existing in 2024, like the banking system, virtually unchanged from decades past.
@dq714315 күн бұрын
How do you keep this from happening to you? Get your name off of the deed and have a competent attorney put it into an LLC. Crooks will have a harder time to prove ownership.
@hugh2619 күн бұрын
This sounds rather off. The land was not stolen. The buyers were defrauded. Once the fraud was revealed, the "sale" must be nullified, and title restored.
@JustMe-dn9fh19 күн бұрын
So sign up for a property alert system that alertd the owners "after " property is stolen????! Make it make sense!!?
@borrachoporrero992919 күн бұрын
Too bad police dont do police work any more.
@madmonkey76220 күн бұрын
The justice system is toooooo damn lenient on scammers. It is about time they meet God firsthand.
@cheyenneyoon435317 күн бұрын
Not just the justice system, as well as the ‘false sense of security’ most people have in regards to the prevention of fraud. Thing like this are happening more often, and the fraudsters are so hard to catch. The justice system needs to start making an example out of these scammers.
@ronaldmoravec269220 күн бұрын
In Illinois you just need to present a quick claim deed to county clerk. Loosy goosy system, but what can you you expect for Illinois government.
@chairmanofthebored868414 күн бұрын
it's called a QUITCLAIM
@MaxPower-119 күн бұрын
You can do a quit claim in any state but it’s irrelevant with respect to this kind of fraud. As a buyer, you would only accept ownership transfer using a quit claim if you absolutely know who you are buying the property from and that they are the bone fide owners and that the land has a free and clear title history. In all other instances (i.e., a typical real estate transaction) a buyer would always insist on involving a title company that would issue a warranty deed, precisely because of this kind of fraud.
@jdkodak48719 күн бұрын
Same group of people no one going think they’re thieves.
@rez350120 күн бұрын
The realtor is definitely in on it. Shady af. This situation is very scary and seemingly can happen to anyone
@Jofcgr19 күн бұрын
Hope they sue the people who gave thier property to these crooks.
@juanp108919 күн бұрын
1:10 Stevie Wonder wouldn’t be full by these fake copies Must be an inside job
@RinaReneeLillWinnersClub4 күн бұрын
The realtor is most assuredly in on it and should be brought up on charges.
@nogunnofear6703Күн бұрын
Obviously someone with a lot of knowledge evolving real estate. Probably Realtors People think the car business is shifty but the real estate industry is greedy beyond belief. Huge inflationary Factor.
@hectorrodriguez268619 күн бұрын
The buyer is the one scammed. If a title company was involved, there is some hope of getting the money back from them or their insurer.
@VeeAmericanEagle20 күн бұрын
That’s scary!
@nicoctane166919 күн бұрын
Start making having land & a house possible again & maybe the squatting, scams & theft for homes will go down.
@GeorgiaWhisper3 күн бұрын
I stand firm in believing that the buyers should be partially responsible by not doing their own due diligence. Often the buyers and the thieves are both in on it. However those who are in the blind should do a title search and check with the courts and possibly the DMV. It seems like a lot but it's worth it. The actual homeowners should do an annual verification checklist form whenever theu pay the property tax to confirm all contact information and documents are up to date.
@williamgonzalez14321 күн бұрын
Why did Fox Delete the video of the car theft in Overland Park.
@freeisalwaysme20 күн бұрын
They realize a white guy did it.
@loujon19118 күн бұрын
The scammers look exactly like I thought they would
@christiansalas10668 күн бұрын
Idk if I’ve ever seen someone who had eyes Black on any ID before. I’m pretty sure that’s impossible.
@MaiRaven310 күн бұрын
Land title insurance on the first sale?
@t.a.b.21 күн бұрын
Someone working on the city is in on it
@swallowedinthesea1121 күн бұрын
Is you mad?
@YuckFouTube220 күн бұрын
Facts, then claiming "i don't know, I didn't know, I was just doing my job". If they say "I'm not at liberty to speak on that" they will be fbi candidates
@danielb386320 күн бұрын
@@swallowedinthesea11English?
@swallowedinthesea1120 күн бұрын
@@danielb3863 Yup!
@HerMajesty120 күн бұрын
No. Thats not English@@swallowedinthesea11
@Quilt4Joy15 күн бұрын
How do you not receive a notice or mail or something at your address letting you know of the activity?
@danalove68685 күн бұрын
I know a real estate guy in California this happened to but supposedly he gave his property away he told them do think I’m going to give a million dollar property away, he got his lawyer and everything got fixed but man these scammers are getting out of hand
@csu1119 күн бұрын
Can’t sell what you don’t own. The courts need to do better reinstating correct ownership when this happens. Better yet do due diligence before transferring ownership.
@perryrice414920 күн бұрын
I Truly believe that Claudia has a lot to do with it.🤔😏🙄😔
@sting11420 күн бұрын
And the notarizer also
@DONALD_DADDY_TRUMP20 күн бұрын
Senior citizens always fall
@Gregknows-uj8gg4 күн бұрын
It is sad but it will only get worse until the penalty for such crimes is so harsh that nobody dares commit these types of crimes.
@J4sse20 күн бұрын
Disgraceful.
@lyne-re9mz4 күн бұрын
The obvious is being overlooked. It's not an easy thing to do. A coordinated effort of sorts is what I see.
@tech4life88420 күн бұрын
The new buyer is the one whose put of money. The real owner still legally owns the property
@Tom-mu7zy20 күн бұрын
Yes. But if the buyer got title insurance with the "purchase" then the buyer is covered. Title insurance used to be mostly just a formality, but not anymore.
@Renee-wy1po15 күн бұрын
Worder whos pictures they used ?
@nasrhussain912620 күн бұрын
Title companies should have access to DMV systems to verify ids and licenses.
@MissNArismendezX17 күн бұрын
Along with medical identity
@Zoro1628816 күн бұрын
the whole world is becoming scammers world
@Tubbyonly15 күн бұрын
Sorry brother Seree. I hope the scammer gets caught sooner.
@aidaamaya58022 күн бұрын
Real estate agent needs to get investigated
@Quilt4Joy15 күн бұрын
I thought you had to submit fingerprints to purchase. I did, I’m in California.
@peep_show80375 күн бұрын
The realtor and notary is in it too 100% watch “pain and gain”
@hottuna720 күн бұрын
Typical gov't. incompetence; we will alert you to the transaction, but only *after* you've been robbed. lol It would cost the gov't. virtually nothing to insert code that would alert property owners before the fact.
@politicsuncensored561720 күн бұрын
How exactly would the gov. or anyone alert you to something - - - "Before" it happened? Maybe using a crystal ball will do~! Shalom
@hottuna720 күн бұрын
@@politicsuncensored5617 Ok, I'll try to explain. Selling a property does not happen overnight. The city/county/state keeps records of ALL real estate transactions. *IF* they had a protocol in place to *automatically* alert the homeowner *of record" that a transaction was being attempted on a property registered to the homeowner, then this could/should never happen.
@politicsuncensored561720 күн бұрын
@@hottuna7 For the notice to be sent the action has to occur first. There is no kind of protocol to be put in place. You're wanting a notice to be sent out before anything occurs. I have been signed up with our state to receive notices if transaction is file on my property or under my name. If a person signs up within there city/state they can avoid a mess like this video. Shalom
@Wigington2420 күн бұрын
My card has been hacked three times in the last year. Third world country operators all these companies phone Amazon Walmart they're all suspect
@paladro20 күн бұрын
its best to assume your personal information is out there, readily available for criminals to use... companies do little to fund security of your data and often times just sell it in bulk.
@archiee.306119 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, these scammers are targeting the elderly. I have a coworker that had the same situation with his older parents that own a land in Texas. They found out recently that it was sold to somebody. I feel like the Title company doesn’t do their job properly since they’re in charge on that matter.
@ELEVOPR12 күн бұрын
The police? They can't even find package thieves 😂😂 What a joke.
@BeccaHetrick20 күн бұрын
Realtor only has one A in it... REALTOR, not realAtor....
@aurorastarfire43310 күн бұрын
You are the awareness not the experience
@Caumtsis13 күн бұрын
Tittle’s company should pay the owner and get fine
@leg41415 күн бұрын
Just simply...Amazing what fraudsters are getting away with in this day and age of computerization and businesses afraid of liability...I hope the police and courts get involved with the company/agent that allowed all this to go on their watch....Peace
@j.g.t700620 күн бұрын
This sounds like an inside job 😮
@philn160112 күн бұрын
Kansan will investigate and shut down this real estates Com.
@scatterbrain949020 күн бұрын
Require in person only and finger printing
@cr-iv1el8 күн бұрын
The secreg is out. Our system is broken.
@marshapelo983015 күн бұрын
The realtor's fault for not vetting the ID.
@MaxPower-119 күн бұрын
This is not a new scam. Been going around for years. Plenty of red flags here that the title company should have picked up on (like the other title company did in the other transaction). The couple will get their money back but the title company’s insurance premiums will probably go up - and rightfully so because they were lazy and stupid and did not do their full due diligence.