r u brazilian?

@Lucas lopes racist bro

notmyrealname23 thought the same thing

Same. He has a great sense of knowing when to shift pressure.

notmyrealname23 dude is fucking strong

Sebastian Gardey base and strength are different. Aly has one of the best standup games in bb bjj so you can guarantee is balance and feeling for base is elite. Saying that, adding his strength to the mix just makes it super super good

Ashley Garvin Agreed. My experience with training has taught me that strength is directly implied with base. Although other factors are included, having strong legs and a sense of balance within your power alows for a strong base! Cheers

His cold guard's not too shabby either.

Why can't I like this comment 100 times?

Eventually you pass out.

@@mubarkqardas46 I see what you did there 😉

Yes, that's why i only watch roger gracie😉

Jiu-jitsu feio danado! Eu sinto vergonha em ver uma luta dessas, claramente o cara só luta pra amarrar e ganhar vantagens, não luta pra finalizar.

guarda de lapela é sempre a mesma coisa quem nao faz odeia quem faz ama

Lmao

hahahahahaha

Hence the encyclopedia

@@lochu7455 i think you miss eric chan points...i kind of agree with him...

Sub only is all I do

They need to implement a timer where you gain points for holding top positions or something.

@@CH-tv1cy now why the fuck would you reward that? Aly didn't put out any offence in this match until the last 30 seconds meanwhile Keenan was constantly attacking.

Because bjj was self defence oriented, so the oldschool guys get pissed when there is no point to the opponent when you go in a position that is stupid in any fuck self defence scenario.

Você vai chorar?

@@Namesi hurr durr

No jiu-jitsu "moderno" dele, queria ver numa briga de rua ele ficar de bunda pra cima segurando lapela ... É aí que o jiu-jitsu verdadeiro dos Gracie entra, o qual era em grande parte pra defesa pessoal, nas ruas uma vantagem não te garante a chegada em casa com segurança...

Se o mestre Hélio e Rickson seriam faixas roxas duros Hj Oque seria esse camarada na época dos dois? Um faixa branca meia boca e olhe lá!

@@thiagohenriquebenvenutti3110 o espertão ,ele compete sem kimono e qualquer pessoa sem um puta noção de luta teria o pé levado pra casa por ele !!!!

Com toda certeza , keenan corno desgraçado , mano tenho uma raiva desse cara

@@maromba1230 mas antes dele pegar o pé espertão ele já tinha levado umas nas caras e já apagado... Ou vc acha que o cara que lutar vai esperar ele pegar no pé meu camarada... Luta de rua não é como esse jiu Jitsu de merda que é Hj...

Chato pacas mesmo da nem terminei de ver a luta.

O jiu jitsu dele é muito ruim... só amarrando para ganhar ponto... vc ver logo que ele fica pegando na lapela pra puxar pra guarda e ficar ali so enrolando... ai fica ganhando vantagem do juiz e acha q luta muito... dar é raiva.

Ele só faz força!

top mesmo,os passadores só choram nos comentários kk

@@maromba1230 kkkkk

yeaa judo fixed that problem.

What is the alternative?

@@danielbak651 submission only, it would cut down on the stalling. No one gets a submission then no one wins. I can't believe someone can be called a world champion without getting a submission along the way. Just doesn't seem right to me.

@@SpyderRae actually you see less subs in sub-only competitions than in IBJJF-type rulesets. The fact is that the 2 fighters are both so good technically that none of them can have an edge on the other. At this high level of jiu-jitsu, you see subs when one is significantly better than the other (or sometimes when one makes a mistake but it's rare at this level)

Dumb

It's not judo

@@timmyotoole6063 The reason some people like that concept, is because bjj has artificial limits that guess pulling unrealistically effective. Normally, guard pulling would be punished by slams and ground and pound. If you aren't allowed to use the real life counter to a technique, then it will just run amuck in competition. You say it's not judo, but it should still be able to work in the same environment if it is effective, should it not?

@@gesshugh9976 I see what you're saying for sure. Keenan wouldn't pull guard were he to meet Muhammed Aly in an alley. There's a reason no one not named Ryan hall pulls guard in mma. A bjj competition is not attempting to simulate a real life encounter, though. It's purely sport, so why punish for a perfectly legtimate, strategic move. Nonsensical

@@timmyotoole6063 I honestly wasn't aware that it was purely sport. I thought it was still martial art practice. That's why Judo has that rule. If it is unrelated to martial arts at all, then there is no problem.

The back take , that came off sweep

Forced to turtle at 03:20

Sudden death?? 😂😂 its not mortal kombat

Thats because thats all they do. Completely impractical and useless for anything resembling a fight. What they do is a pure sport and is no longer a martial art.

@@dragonballjiujitsu i am not sure, i respect creativity and there are so many branches of bjj developing, one might bring something both new and efficient in a fight....in any cases it is unnerving to know that the guy in front of you is less of a fighter yet has one special angle and position he mastered and u stepped in it without even realizing

@@d3robert Typical of any sport, I find it hilararious when people lose their cool over a style they're not used to. Hate the game not the player like they say. Keep upseting them old folks!

They don't have jackets where you're from?

Yeah.. that’s why I got my 11 year old out of sport Bjj and into mma and wrestling instead.. now I know he can defend himself

Why? Coaching is important all fighters have coaches

Quem é kerlius?

@@DEIDECOSTA....kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Quase raspou

blandz he’s not there anymore?

@@DaKaveCollects keenan left atos

Eu concordo com vc, mas pô, o Aly poderia ter feito mais coisa ali! Aceitou muito o jogo do Keenan!

Hahahaha war of nottin

I think it’s turned out this way because otherwise we’d have matches going for ages and therefore make it too difficult to run a bjj tournament in a reasonable time frame. Maybe the higher level guys should play by a submission only ruleset though with the earlier stages of tournaments being point based.

Whats wrong exactly with the scoring system? i think makes perfect sense

Daniel Dughman In simulation of a real conflict assuming no outside influences such as people interfering a point system simply does not suffice. Submissions represent the ability to significantly injure, kill or knockout an opponent and when a point system is in place you don’t have to show that you had that degree of control to have won in a life or death scenario. A point system also makes you fight for points rather than submissions, points are easy much easier to get and assuming you have a good enough defence you don’t even have to attempt a submission to win. Under a point system you don’t have to have good cardio and don’t necessarily have to be good at submissions to win, although it certainly helps. This doesn’t translate well into real life though where if you gas out you’re toast. If you don’t have the submission skill required to at least be able to submit someone untrained but competent you’re in trouble when you gas out and as martial artists you don’t want the results of a conflict to be entirely dependent on your conditioning.

Daniel Dughman it’s like point sparring in karate. Drives the competitors to train for points rather than practical real-world scenarios. I’m sure both of these guys can defend themselves just fine. But the point system turns it into a silly game rather than a match to see who could really beat who.

@@anonymouse7095 Yep, it dilutes the art. Most TKD guys these days have extremely weak kicks. They don't learn power, they learn speed and placement. That's what wins points. It's fine for sport, but it's not going to save them against an attacker amped up adrenaline or narcotics. Edit: As opposed to someone like Joe Rogan who learned old school TKD. That dudes kicks are absolutely lethal.

He had a grip both times. I'm guessing you mean after the restart. If you go to about 3:54 you see he goes for a grip doesn't get it and immediately stands back up. Then he grabs the belt which counts as a grip. That's my understanding of the rule but I'm no expert.

@@uralwong799 yes right there, I thought if that happens that's a penalty.

@@wylian84 I think it's only stalling if you stay on the floor after attempting to pull guard. It would be a bit harsh to punish a player just for failing.

@@uralwong799 oh alright, I didn't know the called a stalling move from it. I thought if you straight up pulled guard without grips that was a penalty. Been away from jiu jitsu about 5 years now, forgot some things and some things have changed.

Keenan had one advantage (don't you see the little "1" on the right ?) so the scores were 0-1-0 to 0-0-0 The first big number is the main score (when you pass the guard, execute a takedown successfully, sweep, take the back or the mount, knee on belly, etc.) The little number at the top right of the big number is the advantages (you score advantages when for example you try to pass the guard but don't manage to stay 3 seconds in the position, or when you go for a submission but the opponent manages to get out of it, etc.) The little number at the bottom right is the penalties (you can get penalties generally for lack of combativeness, or for some fouls) If the main score numbers are equal, you check the advantages If the main score numbers and advantages numbers are equal, you check the penalties If everything is equal, it's up to the referee(s) decision Here, Keenan managed to gain an advantage (honestly I don't see why, you can just see that the referee gave it at 3:40, but it has been cut from the video)

One of the best

He won on an advantage that was awarded I guess for almost taking the back

Ele estava bem cansado

Mean the leg that wraps the lapel? It's near impossible to turn in that position without the lapel turning your opponent (here Keenan) with you. There is a toe hold for that leg but it requires some re-positioninh and is not too easy to get on good lapel players.

Luta de profissionais são outro nível e uma vantagem é muito importante e ele não tá lutando com vc pra jogar soltinho e Muhammad cara

@@diogopinheiro4097 não disse que ele está errado em fazer o jogo dele! observa direitinho que a enfase que coloquei foi na questão de perder a vontade de ver o tipo de lutador amarrão. Em momento algum eu disse que ela está errado no que está fazendo..E se fosse pra jogar soltinho comigo vai do cara, se ele quer tomar amasso ou nao!

Bret Hernandez Excellent point! I think we still have a lot of people out there who are discreetly envious of those they are intimidated by. Both of these guys looked good, and they appear to be decent sportsman. Let the whiners continue to cry, and let’s just move on.

Shichi Dan Appear to be decent? They are both multi time world champions. Thats the point, 90% of you dont even know who these guys are or even train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Just on here spitting non sense based off their google searches or trying to compare this shit to a mma fight. Go to a BJJ gym and see how far you make it in a “light” roll against one of these guys. They will blow your mind when you realize you have zero chance of survival against most all of these guys.

I think most of us understand that, we just don't like it. That's our prerogative. Just as it's yours to be entertained by it. There's room for both opinions.

Lenon Kitchens well your prerogative is coming from a lack of education on the subject. Go train and get some perspective then come back and give a relevant opinion.

@@brethernandez3337 Lol, ok idiot.

Much more fun to do than to watch!

harrod19 “fun” = exhausting

Verdade mano, não deu nem a vantagem no mínimo né

Não mano... M. aly já estava por cima, neste caso não conta pontuação pra ele

Como o Aly pode ter raspado se ele nunca puxou pra guarda? Vantagem pode até ser, mas pontuação, jamais.

This my friend is called Judo haha + BJJ is ground game if you force people to play take downs then something will be missing and people will start playing judo and wrestling to avoid losing points so in this case they will only play guard as a result of losing the stand up game ! In training people will start focus on wrestling and judo rather than guard btw I am a guard puller so yeh maybe i am getting emotional on the subject haha

@@dilmarvega2575 i understand and for the rules of bjj its ok but it goes against reality and all these grappling arts still derive from a form of self defence

@@jonmoris9354 In reality eventually someone will end up on the ground right?

@@dilmarvega2575 yes but how you get there can prove painful or even lethal on concrete truth is throws and takedowns can end fights on concrete and sittingvdown in front of someone is just stupid wen tjey can boot you in the head

@@jonmoris9354 You are right so in real fight you must be good and ready for all phases from standing to ground i mean all situations I believe as a bjj player ill try to attack the legs and pull guard from there ! but i will never sit lol

Amarrão? Vai dizer que vc não queria saber fazer um jogo desses?