KEF VS Canton... (Kef R11/Canton Vento)

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Kpaceguy

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2 жыл бұрын

Let me know which speaker you find the better speaker in the comments below! Two absolutely prestigious brands going head-to-head to find out if the lesser priced Canton Vento 896.2 DC ($4000ish/pair) can hang with the KEF R11s ($6000/pair) or does the KEF's blow it out of the water. It's not often we see KEF and Canton in the same room, so I decided to take advantage of it! OH, by the way, the Canton's are still for sale! $2500 for the pair! Email me at Kpaceguy@gmail.com if you're interested!
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@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Leave me a comment down below and tell me which speaker you think is the better one. Tell me why!
@nathanvanstralendorff2405
@nathanvanstralendorff2405 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this comparison. That's why i follow you and will continue to follow even if you don't have cantons anymore. I like the content. These Kef are nice speakers. They could be miles better for sure. Same goes for the cantons. The should have bypass capacitors to enhance the depth even further. What I like about the Kef, it sounds a tad sweeter in the higher midrange. It sounds like the kef has a little more resonance on some music parts (could be because of the mic) but the canton ceramic tweeter runs rounds around the aluminium tweeters of Kef. I think this is due to lower crossover parts (capacitor mundorf and bypass with Teflon will enhance depth and clarity lots) all in all what doyou think. I still think the canton chassis are more artistic and mitigate resonance issues(standing waves) ofcourse Kef had its own internal design. Conclusive: both are excellent speakers. I don't think the kef are worth the extra price. But new adventures are always good for the channel and pleases the mind. enjoy the kef speakers. Looking forward too the center placement video.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanvanstralendorff2405 Thank you my friend! Yes we will test the center and continue to play around with the Kefs. Especially the Bookshelves when they come in!
@nathanvanstralendorff2405
@nathanvanstralendorff2405 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy keep it up! Don't forget to enjoy yourself. We keep enjoying your content.
@nathanvanstralendorff2405
@nathanvanstralendorff2405 2 жыл бұрын
@Kpaceguy Thanks for playing David Celeste. This is new for me. Very nice music.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanvanstralendorff2405 very nice music
@totalplonker824
@totalplonker824 2 жыл бұрын
What you hear and what we hear are two different things so I think on this occasion I'll keep my opinion to myself! Very good initial assessment! Looking forward to the review.
@johnprice4819
@johnprice4819 3 ай бұрын
Nice, exactly the info I was looking for Now! You’ve got a new fan.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 3 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@scottgordon1721
@scottgordon1721 8 ай бұрын
OUTSTANDING review Kpg. You are the Roy Hobbs of speaker reviewers. Thank you.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 8 ай бұрын
Thank you brother I greatly appreciate that!
@whiskeyweekly7533
@whiskeyweekly7533 2 жыл бұрын
I love it, you have two great speakers that you compared with each other and determined what you like best. You did it your way and are satisfied with your choice. That's what matters most. Don't listen to what any other person has to say, your listening experience is for you.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@baycchief3785
@baycchief3785 2 жыл бұрын
I never had Canton before but I had auditioned KEF speakers and finally had to choose B&W speakers.
@howardskeivys4184
@howardskeivys4184 2 жыл бұрын
I upgraded my speakers just under 2 years ago. When I’m spending vast quantities of my hard earned cash, I don’t rush my purchasing decision. I auditioned dozens of speakers. Had multiple listening sessions at numerous dealers. I auditioned, ATCSCM50. Sonus, pioneer. Kef R11. PNC. Monitor Audio. Spender Etc. The speakers I took home with me were the Kef R11. They had excellent tonality at low volume.you can drive then hard without distortion. Despite their size, they image well. The bass is authorative, smooth and precise. They represent high value and performance. They’re not perfect, nothing is! The mid-range is a tad lean and the top end could benefit from greater presence. But I have no purchase regret.
@timfloyd9397
@timfloyd9397 2 жыл бұрын
Both really are great speakers, Kef is more laid back and neutral. Canton more dynamic and detailed. Really has more to do with your room, gear, and preference. I’ve had both in my house as a demo and I went the other way a kept the vento 896.2. I still really liked the r11 but they didn’t give me that realistic sound of dynamic swings I was looking for. Almost like Kef decided to round of these dynamic swings to make a more polite speaker. All that being said I’d be proud to own both.
@baycchief3785
@baycchief3785 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until you listen and compare in the same line with B&W speakers - blow my mind as to how B&W speakers were designed, especially their Carbon Dome tweeters in the 700 series. Of course the Dimaond Dome tweeters are top of the line in the 800 series. I woudd compare these with the 703 S2 tower speakers
@timfloyd9397
@timfloyd9397 2 жыл бұрын
@@baycchief3785 bowers are very nice too but a step below the vento and Kef r11. Bowers are a little bright for me and at higher volumes distort. Just not my type of speaker and definitely have a certain sound. I wanted to really like the 7 series because the 3 way center channel looked like a great design. The revel c208 and f208 would be a better comparison to these.
@baycchief3785
@baycchief3785 2 жыл бұрын
@@timfloyd9397 Wait until you pair them up with the correct amp - in this case for HT, you can go with the Mcintosh 7 channel @ 200 Watts each - The house sounds can't deny it at least it's my preference. Regardless everyone has their own preference of sounds and how their gears would be integrated to produce the sounds that they like.
@markclark1605
@markclark1605 2 жыл бұрын
@@baycchief3785 B& W make some high end speakers for sure & they make some I have heard in the CM series and they were bright in the high frequency range. My choice in a speaker brand is Sonus Faber.
@RC-qc2nz
@RC-qc2nz 2 жыл бұрын
@@baycchief3785 b&w is overhyped. There speaker design and the measurements are not good at all. So the kefs and the canton are way better.
@t.m3069
@t.m3069 Жыл бұрын
I've got the 896 for 3 months and sold it. Now I've got R11. The Cantons are great speakers, but in my opinion is KEF more smoother and warmer than 896. The R11 has more power at the bass. For me the best speaker that I have 👍👌😎
@vibeinstalls9890
@vibeinstalls9890 2 жыл бұрын
I would probably go with the KEF given the choice and the money 💰, thanks kpace , wish I could have been in the room with ya !
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@MichaelLHill-fd3kw
@MichaelLHill-fd3kw 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say that I noticed that the KEF’s sounded fuller than the Cantons I only noticed when I closed my eyes and opened them when I heard a noticeable difference in the sound and of course I don’t know what either speakers sound like but they were different and I thought the Canton’s had a stronger response in the highs but they were just a bit brighter than the KEF but I will probably never know what each of them really sound like but from my thoughts I think the KEFs are better, Here’s a thought, I think I would keep the Cantons for the Surround Side and they are close to Timbre match that they may give you a much better Theater setup. But thanks for sharing this review with us and keep them coming.
@williammorales8204
@williammorales8204 Жыл бұрын
I think when you get in the same $ ball park, its a matter of taste. So many good speakers in that price range.
@nonametofame
@nonametofame 2 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it, but does the R11 image well enough in your room, where you can effectively run a phantom center? KEFs are imaging monsters and should create a pinpoint center image. But I know you mentioned you ended up getting a center anyway because you just missed it. Could you make a video comparison for phantom center vs "non ideal" center placement?
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a shot. But yea they gave a very effective center image so phantom center works very well but I don't quite sit in the middle during long watching sessions and that's when I miss it. Even a little off axis it's not terrible but enough for me to go out and buy a center
@eddietours3728
@eddietours3728 2 жыл бұрын
Is had to judge from a video but I was able to listen to Kef in person Kef sound great
@phillm156
@phillm156 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the Kefs. More natural, open mids, great for vocals. The cantons would make a great theater setup. Accentuated highs and lows but vocals sounds boxed in.
@AudioElectronicsChicago
@AudioElectronicsChicago 2 жыл бұрын
The KEF's are the ones for me
@herbtarlick12
@herbtarlick12 2 жыл бұрын
on my headphones the Kef definitely have that fuller more immersive sound over the cantons on music but i did not hear that significant of a difference in the movie. But i also liked the canton sound.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Kef music performance is what drew me in!
@candoslayer
@candoslayer 4 ай бұрын
I have the Kef R700 and love them I ordered the R6C Meta as the center
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 4 ай бұрын
Send it to me for a review 😅
@sturdyvw
@sturdyvw Жыл бұрын
Did you have a crossover on during testing? Bass sounds weak on both. The monoprice amps are lean but damn, no bass from either.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
No they were full range but my mic does do much past 40hz. Both of these speakers have insane amounts of bass
@georgemunteanu4040
@georgemunteanu4040 Жыл бұрын
Hello! Please tell me which got a punchier bass in your opinion. Thanks
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
Canton is "punchier"
@hansmurris6716
@hansmurris6716 Жыл бұрын
What subwoofers do you use? I have the Canton Vento 850 R subwoofer which blend perfectly with my Vento towers!
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbhkjdl60NqWgYU.html
@hansmurris6716
@hansmurris6716 Жыл бұрын
See: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hs-qgLt0uLbLhYU.html For musicality the Canton 850R is the best I have ever heard. Pitty that you did have them with your Canton set-up, really! I had a REL before and listened to several subs (DYNE Audio, a big B&W, a KEF, Focal, etc.) but nothing came close to the clear undistorted, strong and controlled bass of the Canton Vento Sub 850R. A shame that Canton discontinued this model. I have btw all white Canton’s like you. Do you live in Europe? If so and you did not sell you Cantons yet, probably my son in law would be interested to buy them from you.
@jimfalco8302
@jimfalco8302 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that def tech is holding back your system. It’s very hard to integrate different subs
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
It's sealed as well so it's not far off in performance. Just doesn't dig as deep
@TomasTL1000R
@TomasTL1000R 4 ай бұрын
Ok so I own the 896,2 and have not heard the R11 but i had a lot of work to figger out the best placement for my speakers and use them in my listning room. I come up with tilting them up a bit to make them sound better. Placing them of axis almost straight forward. It is really hard to set up speakers (I think). The fact that you played the speakers at different locations in the room is not ideal either! In your video the K11 sound better I think, anyway I´m not sure you got the best sound out of your Cantons cos they are proberbly harder to set up right. But I thank you for the great review, after all I want the KEF R11 🙂 And yes I have a sub behind my listning position and diffusers and basstraps and all that! Greatings from Sweden Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 4 ай бұрын
I had the canton for years in 3 different positions. 1 video didn't decide my decision. This was more for the viewing audience than it was for me
@taseti4803
@taseti4803 2 жыл бұрын
Tha Canton's had more snap to them during playback of the movie. The Kef's sound more airy to me. That's probably due to the efficiency of the speakers. The classical music sounded fantastic with the Kef's and I see why you love them alot-Besides, being your new hobby toys😁😁. When I first subscribed to your channel years ago, it was all about your beautiful Polk audio setup. My, my, my, have things changed. Thousands of dollars later and your budget have increased to some Kef's🙂🙂. This is a very expensive hobby. It always seems like we're all upgrading. I'm currently still tweaking my new 4 SB 3000's, to blend well with my 6, Ultra Towers and Ultra center. The 4, subs are shaking the house. Especially, coming from SB 2000's. I started my journey from a Samsung (touch of color) box and one, to a 5.1 Andrew Jones setup. Then I upgraded everything to a 7.4.4 Andrew Jones Pioneer elite setup. I replaced the pioneer elite center with an Ultra center and I never looked back. My journey started in an apartment 2017/2018ish. Now my theater is in a house with a 24 feet by 26 feet room with tile floors and a huge area rug. When you buy your house I'm sure your setup will change again. The crazy thing is. I still have all my speakers except for the SB 2000'S because of the upgrade program ofcourse, and the Samsung box and 1. I ended up donating that to a secondhand store "AMVETS". I still have 2 Andrew Jones 10 inch down firing subwoofers packed up in their boxes. I have a 2 channel setup with 2 of the Pioneer Elite towers. These towers have perfect imaging for a phantom speaker. I typed all this just to tell you how proud I am for you, and for allowing myself and others to witness your home theater and audiophilec journey. Congrats on your new endeavors.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
You've be around a while haha I appreciate you
@nathanvanstralendorff2405
@nathanvanstralendorff2405 2 жыл бұрын
Request to compare them without EQ pure audio. 🙏
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 Жыл бұрын
Bro, you and me are so a like, I had the Bose LS650, then the same Samsung projector and have the Q750 and Onkyo RZ50. we should meet, we must be a lot a like lol. I actually sold my Samsung projector and got an OLED 83", the room the projector is in was just too bright and we had a ALR screen, at night it was fine. Also my kids constantly bumped into the projector and I had to realign it a lot and was getting too annoying.. Was able to sell the screen and projector. Your channel is excellent. Would love to see how the Q750 compare against the R11's, there's about a $6k price difference.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it. If you're similar than me than let's see how close to Kentucky you live lol
@hokifan1
@hokifan1 2 жыл бұрын
Cantons really need tubes. Got my 890.2 for for a steal from a4l and couldn’t be happier, but I still get the urge to tinker with bookshelf’s for comparison purposes.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
I would
@michaelburton5198
@michaelburton5198 Жыл бұрын
I Have The Denon AVRX6700H, But What's Very Good Power 🔋 Amp To Pair With The Denon??? I Realize 👀, That The KEF's Are A 4 Ohms Speakers 🔊 Aswell???
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
Yes
@michaelburton5198
@michaelburton5198 Жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy, Besides The Denon AVRX6700H, What Power AMPLIFIER Would Add With The Denon, For The KEF'S IN A HOME THEATER 🎥 SET UP????
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
@@michaelburton5198 monoprice, emotiva
@michaelburton5198
@michaelburton5198 Жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy I Appreciate That!!! Probably LEAN More Towards The Emotiva Power 🔋 Amplifier!
@sdjgraphics
@sdjgraphics 2 жыл бұрын
I have always liked the uniQ drivers so i like Kef
@pumpituphomeboy
@pumpituphomeboy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi am here listening to your video on my KEF R11. The canton sound V shaped by comparison. The mic used in recording this video is certainly not good enough to capture the sound of either of these speakers in my opinion. Of course your room and setup will ultimately determine what your ears hear. In my experience the kefs are very linear and respond well to EQ so it is easy to get the sound you like from these speakers provided you are able to get the best out of your room correction and DSP. BTW I also have R3 and R2C. The R3 for rears is a bit overkill but holy moly surround sound transitions.....you will see for yourself soon enough. Best of luck.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
It don't matter what mic I use, it's youtube..
@lexiewilkinson9703
@lexiewilkinson9703 Жыл бұрын
at 8:30 you can really hear the difference the Kef made over the Canton sound more immersive and more exciting and cleaner. Kef for the win
@Airavida
@Airavida 8 ай бұрын
Cantons sound veiled compared
@RoyFJ65
@RoyFJ65 10 ай бұрын
I have always been a Yamaha man, specifically the NS-1000M, however if Yamaha wasn't making those speakers, it would be Canton for me. The only other speakers that come close to the satisfaction of details like the NS-1000 beryllium.
@vicentvanmole
@vicentvanmole Жыл бұрын
from the mic point (listen on KZfaq ), Canton sound bright & weaker bass .& mid bass .Thanks for great comparison , need more longer vocal to hear the mid.
@Propain04
@Propain04 2 ай бұрын
Those speakers are in totally different price classes. Would be curious about the Canton reference in comparison with the kef.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 ай бұрын
At the time, they weren't.
@markclark1605
@markclark1605 2 жыл бұрын
They both sound good, I think the kef are more smoother. Either speakers would be fine.
@taseti4803
@taseti4803 2 жыл бұрын
How do your subscribers send you pictures of their home theater?
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the time the choose my email
@leylandjoseph467
@leylandjoseph467 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s very close, definitely have distinct sounds but maybe a matter of preference
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
It's 100% a sideways move and not worth paying thousands of more dollars for a sideways move
@nathanvanstralendorff2405
@nathanvanstralendorff2405 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 agreed.
@RC-qc2nz
@RC-qc2nz 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Here in Germany we have many guys which goes from kef to canton.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@RC-qc2nz I believe it. Top to bottom in my opinion the Cantons are practically flawless.
@RC-qc2nz
@RC-qc2nz 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 you should try the reference series from canton.
@gordthor5351
@gordthor5351 Жыл бұрын
The Kef wins hands down for me. The positioning was more of a disadvantage for the Kef, because the Cantons were in front of the R11s causing a near (strong) reflection which muddies the sound. I get it, it's a lot of work moving speakers to do comparison and I am sure you realize that speakers need room to breath to sound their best, but if anyone thinks the Cantons were at a disadvantage due to narrower spacing, they have never set up two tower speakers side by side with one in front of the other, causing a nasty first reflection which drastically muddies the sound.
@MrSarapintas
@MrSarapintas Жыл бұрын
Hello. Are these kef r11 GOOD TO LISTEN TO ROCK AND HEAVY METAL?
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
Yes
@MrSarapintas
@MrSarapintas Жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy Thanks for the answer, I have another question: Is there an amplifier that doesn't exceed €1000 that can be used with these R11s? Thank you very much
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
@@MrSarapintas emotiva
@speck2552
@speck2552 Жыл бұрын
I think it might not be fair to test a $6k speaker against a $4k speaker. As you could get Canton reference 8k speakers (pair) for $5k and for$7k you could get the Canton Ref 7k speakers (pair). The 8k’s have 6” woofers, 7k’s have 6.8” woofers. Either are far better speakers than the Vento’s. Low volume listening is likely going to be better w/ Kefs as they are a forward and bright as compared to the Cantons. I prefer a warmer sound and I am primarily a HT guy, with some audiophile tendencies. Can’t fault your choice for the Kef’s though if you are staying in that small apt, I’d advise getting smaller subs that you can actually push in your space. Small room and big subs is like a small carburetor on a big engine, you will never get the best out of them as they can’t breathe. Just something to think about. Appreciate your review.
@optex5951
@optex5951 2 жыл бұрын
As long as you are happy with them, thats what matters, 😁
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Super happy
@Boxkerp
@Boxkerp 2 жыл бұрын
what do you mean when you say composure?
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
When there's a lot of instruments at different volume levels and octaves playing at once, I listen for the speakers ability to keep all those things separated. Sometimes in a group of instruments, one instrument has the solo and if that gets tangled then I refer to it as losing composure or vice versa
@markhampton7559
@markhampton7559 2 жыл бұрын
I think the coaxial mid/tweet of the KEF gives them superior imaging and phase coherence.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
I Like the canton's frequency range though! Which is probably why I feel the Cantons have a taller sound stage yet I STILL favor the KEF despite the difference in overall upper frequency reach. Interesting!
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
Have you heard both speakers?
@markhampton7559
@markhampton7559 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 Yes. I think the above makes the KEFs more transparent too.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@markhampton7559 where did you hear them side by side in person? I have heard them also but in person and the Canton tweeter is more transparent for sure
@nathanvanstralendorff2405
@nathanvanstralendorff2405 2 жыл бұрын
@@markhampton7559 what do you describe as transparency? If you say. Soundstage: big yes. Due to crossover and driver arrangement. (coaxial) but ceramic tweeter is a lot hotter(technically) this makes the canton sound more forward, crisp and transparant. At least to my ears. This is how canton and kef differ. I've been to many audio shows. Kef blade is a good example coherency, wide soundstage but notched down treble which i like. Many people like b&w for hot (transparant sounding) tweeters. But everyones ears are different. What speakers do you have?
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 2 жыл бұрын
What song did you use?
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
David Celeste - My darling Lo mimieux - le ballet de L Courses- where do we go from here Elijah N - On my own
@VK-pl1nd
@VK-pl1nd Жыл бұрын
I've compared about the same, but chosen the Canton reference 7k :)
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
Those are amazing
@rantzmar6852
@rantzmar6852 Жыл бұрын
Both speakers where close but you neeed to get the Canton speakers that are more in the same price range as the KEFs
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
Yes there is a new vento line but there's almost no chance of getting them
@jdgamma
@jdgamma Жыл бұрын
sound coming from the Kef's R11 is fuller more detailed, Kef's are warmer by far. Canton's are restraint in the voice and music seem to be further in the distance, not forward.
@-MarkWinston-
@-MarkWinston- 2 жыл бұрын
Good speakers are like women, new ones will be better. My opinion is not one is better overall, they are only different. The KEF is my choice, but you will grow out of it real fast, like I did with the R3. The KEF has a neutral and boring sound, I found a neutral yet exciting sound. YMMV.
@Japan_Changed_My_Life
@Japan_Changed_My_Life 2 жыл бұрын
The Kefs sound fuller to me. There is a bit of tinny ringing in the Cantons. IMO
@Itsss_Nemo
@Itsss_Nemo 2 жыл бұрын
Listening on B&W 702s2 and KEF have more imaging than Cantons, so I definitely think KEF is better but also your giving them abit more space too. Personally I’ll stick with B&W 702s2 tho but they price match KEF R11s per. pair
@baycchief3785
@baycchief3785 2 жыл бұрын
B&W speakers are the way to go would say beat these brands at this series in comparison!
@junior-OG
@junior-OG 2 жыл бұрын
@@baycchief3785 you need to chill
@baycchief3785
@baycchief3785 2 жыл бұрын
@@junior-OG Yeah i'm chilling just speaking of the fact
@jonasgmunder7214
@jonasgmunder7214 Жыл бұрын
bowers get so annoying in the highs...like the beyerdynamic-peak...good for people over 60...
@Itsss_Nemo
@Itsss_Nemo Жыл бұрын
@@jonasgmunder7214 I disagree. The tweeter is bright sounding but also is crisp, clear, and detailed. The tweeter has smoothness especially with 700s and 800s series line. Now the 600s line can be abit fatiguing and sharp/harsh. B&W do take a lot of power to make them shine and proper speaker placement but if hooked up correctly they are beautiful. Furthermore it also depends on AMP / DAC and the Quality of recording. Because a bad recording may lead to a bad experience. Streaming is definitely not super high quality as there is a lot of compression. But each to their own, that is why there are many speaker brands with different sound signatures.
@davonfranklin5158
@davonfranklin5158 2 жыл бұрын
Felt like the Kefs had a more full sound when compared to the Cantons. But during louder parts of the songs the difference were not that vast. I only watch movies and they we’re almost identical during the Hacksaw Ridge demo.
@rainerholle6728
@rainerholle6728 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you choose the Vento 100 for comparison?
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
Buying anything canton is very very hard
@wendellwendellb339
@wendellwendellb339 2 жыл бұрын
Did you disconnect the center channel for this test, or is this video before you received it?
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
This is before I received it
@Rascallucci
@Rascallucci 6 ай бұрын
Canton for me. I know this was posted a year ago, the new Canton Reference series is out. You should check them out.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 6 ай бұрын
I want to. But Canton is hard to get
@Rascallucci
@Rascallucci 6 ай бұрын
@@Kpaceguy Buy from overseas. I wanted to get a pair of Dynaudio Evoke 50, the local dealer was charging too much, I ended up buying a pair from Spain. Even including shipping to Asia was still cheaper than what I would have had to pay.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 6 ай бұрын
@@Rascallucci wow that's crazy
@Rascallucci
@Rascallucci 6 ай бұрын
@@Kpaceguy Yep.
@bigjay1970
@bigjay1970 2 жыл бұрын
Music major in my eyes oozes credibility! 😬 Havent watched yet but you should threw that info in the beginning more often!🤔😉😇 PS: keep what you have seems to be the opinion here!
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I don't really mention my background but it comes in sooo handy with my channel
@TW-iu9zy
@TW-iu9zy Жыл бұрын
Canton of cause!
@steveamies238
@steveamies238 10 ай бұрын
And down the audiophile rabbit hole we go, I thought listening to this on my phone the kefs were brighter and the cantons, more bass and neutral, I prefer the kefs
@michaelburton5198
@michaelburton5198 Жыл бұрын
Hey After Months Later, You Say Kef's Are Like That Right??? Alot Of People Are Talking About These Speakers 🔊 Bro!!!
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
I still love them
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
Canton and Kefs are very similar in all areas of sonics. Cantons run away with the win with their ceramic tweeter. It gives them a holographic sound that is usually found in an electrostatic speaker. Its magical. And the Kefs are 2k more! For you, $3500 more. Makes no sense at all to make the switch especially for that amount of money
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
After listening as hard and long as I have, It made complete sense to me.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy you listened long and hard with the speakers spaced out differently. You aren't being fair to yourself in the assessment. No way on God's green earth that it's worth spending $3,500 more dollars to have a little bit of a different sound and not set up both speakers the right way to AB test them
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513A/B was more for KZfaq than for me. Had these things 2 yrs I know what they sound like
@nathanvanstralendorff2405
@nathanvanstralendorff2405 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 i've asked him. To do a showdown. Just to hear a little of the difference. Too many factors which play a role here. What speakers do you drive? 🎉
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanvanstralendorff2405 I have 3 rigs. Canton Vento 890.2's, Gallo Acoustics Strada 2's, and Gallo Acoustics Classico CL-4's. You?
@Benvos
@Benvos Жыл бұрын
Kef came across much more open, especially with vocals. The Canton seemed more restrained which sucks the life from music.
@joeestevez1420
@joeestevez1420 2 жыл бұрын
KEF!!!
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
KEEEEEEEEEF!!!
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
Ok......but why??
@junior-OG
@junior-OG 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 why not ?
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@junior-OG I'm asking Joe to explain...that's all. In my opinion they offer very similar performance. Oh, and the Cantons are $2000 less.
@The.Home.Cinema.Engineer
@The.Home.Cinema.Engineer Жыл бұрын
KEF'S sound better for sure!
@raymondleggs5508
@raymondleggs5508 Жыл бұрын
The kefs look more room freindly imo
@1crenshaw488
@1crenshaw488 2 жыл бұрын
Cantons are good but not good in midrange and power handling i have a set of 2.2 DC for sale.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
You do know in order to really give them an accurate test they should be spaced within their optimal range. Meaning in this setup you have the kefs spread out wider than the cantons. That alone will give them a wider soundstage. Also you mentioned that you have no bias towards one or the other but yet you are in the midst of selling your Canton speakers? You've already mentally told yourself you're selling them so naturally you're mentally going to tell yourself that the kef speakers sound better. If you really think the things through that I just said it really makes sense.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
The whole room is too small for both as it is. I really wish you'd stop arguing with me. It's beyond audio at this point. Its just simply annoying.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy I understand that but moving speakers an inch at a time makes sonic differences and I know you know that. There can be a huge difference when you have them spaced out a foot less
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 yes you're absolutely right. It's something I mentioned in the video
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
You have to remember I had these speakers TWO years. This demo wasn't the end all be all. 2 years in a lot of different arrangements.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy honestly it doesn't matter how long you've had them and in different Arrangements they need to be in the same arrangement and a fair arrangement in order to say one is better than the other.
@davidmckee2898
@davidmckee2898 2 жыл бұрын
You've also got to think about the price difference. Is it worth that price difference❓
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
It's 50/50. I think the cantons punch well above their price and loved every moment with them. Incredibly impressive. Kef r11s are a bit more expensive and not 2 grand better than cantons. Most people will say no. But for me I'm using it home theater and the bookshelves and atmos speakers and etc are better so as a whole, yes I absolutely love my switch in speakers. If it were just 2 ch. No. Not worth the price
@milosevicbojan07
@milosevicbojan07 6 ай бұрын
That Canton you can buy for 2000€... if you want to compare Canton with that KEF you should use Canton Reference series. You should use "clear " source-amplifer path, not sound processing thighs....
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 6 ай бұрын
Kef and Canton are the same price
@user-xd6hy1ch6r
@user-xd6hy1ch6r 2 жыл бұрын
KEF的声音是正确的,平坦 开放 自然,CANTON的太紧 刺耳 僵硬。
@Airavida
@Airavida 8 ай бұрын
Definitely Kefs were better!!! Stronger in the movie segment. In all categories - More clarity , wider soundstage , warmer sound.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 8 ай бұрын
Yes!
@johnhovanec6240
@johnhovanec6240 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the kefs the noise floor is lower on them.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! Huh? I have a pair of Canton Vento 890.2's.......quiet as a mouse. Must be your electronics...
@johnhovanec6240
@johnhovanec6240 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 what I was referring to "noise floor" I meant the speakers "disappear ". You can hear all of the nuances and micro details in the music and yes canton makes a great speaker as well
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhovanec6240 okay got you, I've heard both speakers and it's a sideways move especially for him dropping $3,500 more dollars
@1crenshaw488
@1crenshaw488 2 жыл бұрын
4k for my Cantons 2.2 DC I paid 8k which i am taking a lost but 4k they are yours they are 1year.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Are you advertising in the comment section? Lol
@1crenshaw488
@1crenshaw488 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy not really I just want to sale them have no space.
@JamaicaSocial
@JamaicaSocial 2 жыл бұрын
From what I heard, the KEF is more open and the upper range is clearer. I prefer the warmer midrange of the Canton. The KEF is louder and more integrated, and that's the blend between the tweeter and mods. On the bass side, the KEF actually sounded better with smaller drivers
@echnaton192
@echnaton192 Жыл бұрын
Ah well. The Canton are down to 899/799 EUR each by now. The KEF are still at 1798 EUR each. Is it really double the quality? Don‘t think so. I just bought the canton at 899 EUR. They upgrade so often that the price declines are ridiculous. And then the quality is unmatched compared to price.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
They're down in price because of the new line of ventos
@echnaton192
@echnaton192 Жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy I know that :-) I bought the main speakers at this price from my local hifi dealer, where I bought my first 5.1 set 20 years ago and wait for the price to drop more for center and rear. The 896-set has the top center at 500 and the rears at 400 EUR, so I’ll wait for this price point for the best center for my generation of ventos. Music is the main concern, my 20 year old focal chorus do not cut it, while they’re good enough for home cinema until then. Someday I will upgrade to atmos, but they do not need to be the same generation. At this time a marantz 8000 series from today will be more affordable. For me, Hifi does not need to be the newest line. They need to deliver what I want, nothing more. For bi-amping the mains and dolby atmos I need at least 9 channels. There are used top line onkyos for 500 EUR or older line but new 1400 EUR marantz that do the job even now. Maybe airplay 3 or the newest fire tv will include high res audio by then. we‘ll see. But I will buy subwoofers from a different company that have an actual punch. It seems that the canton for the ventos do not deliver enough. Would you agree to that? I have seen them clipping and being a bit slow. Or am I wrong? All in all I plan to stay within 4000 EUR, while the same set bought new including the newest marantz would have been at 11000 EUR. Canton still charges 9000 EUR for the speaker set alone, while the market price is already at 5200 EUR. I‘ll wait for the price drop, the difference easily affords a decent three week holiday :)
@Prettytony0627
@Prettytony0627 2 жыл бұрын
Wassup with all them damn pillows?
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Fill the couch. Nothing special
@Prettytony0627
@Prettytony0627 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy great content though it just looks like you don’t have a place to sit without a pillow getting in the way
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Prettytony0627 yeah so I move them lol
@jedknutson8373
@jedknutson8373 Жыл бұрын
i can tell you the cantons have pretty good internals compared to the kefs...take a look at a deep unboxing video between the two..
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched it but I've heard and I believe it
@7darek71
@7darek71 Жыл бұрын
Was in a studio,wanted to by the R11, really, no chance, Canton was a lot better! Canton was more clear, much better high, (B&W was best!).Kef has only a good Marketing, no one who really heard them can understand that they are rated so well on the internet. I think the ratings and tests must be sponsored or supported by kef.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
No lol
@Schlock3000
@Schlock3000 Жыл бұрын
That goes for Canton as well, especially in Germany. Every single hifi magazine or website always praises any German speaker, be it Canton, Magnat, Elac, etc. That‘s because they are their biggest ad clients. Every canton review is like „this speaker only costs 50 Euro, but it‘s up there with the best of the best in the 20k range“.
@Lowkey_nxthxn
@Lowkey_nxthxn 2 жыл бұрын
I mostly hear the tweeter on the canton but On the kefs you just don’t hear the tweeter you hear the mid bass and a more fuller sound
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
You would have to hear them in person. The KZfaq audio isn't going to give you the real representation. I own a pair of Canton vento speakers and I assure you that from top to bottom they are extraordinary and the Tweeter and the high frequency is magical. What you're hearing in the k e f speaker is more of a unrevealing sound
@Lowkey_nxthxn
@Lowkey_nxthxn 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 so would say the kef is a upgrade over the canton?
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lowkey_nxthxn definitely not. Not when you are comparing these exact models. It's a sideways move. And.....the Cantons are 2k less! With the right electronics the Canto Ventos are end game speakers for the majority of the masses.
@Lowkey_nxthxn
@Lowkey_nxthxn 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 you make a very good point about end game speakers for the cantons. In this hobby everyone will always wanna hear a different signature in speakers.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lowkey_nxthxn 👍
@BigWake
@BigWake 2 жыл бұрын
Just seen your name on a car
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha what's up!
@1crenshaw488
@1crenshaw488 2 жыл бұрын
if you really looking for a good speak for life its Magico S7 and S5 you piss your pants.
@3limin4torZockt
@3limin4torZockt Жыл бұрын
You can really not tell. When you heard such high end speakers in real life it is a big difference between 6000 dollars and 2000 dollars speakers
@net_news
@net_news Жыл бұрын
KEF all the way...
@ManuelMedellin.
@ManuelMedellin. Жыл бұрын
Silly comparison, entirely different price league. Vento 896.2 DC are just 2000 now in Europe (pair !), there are not many speakers in that price range that can compete with Canton here. Probably only Monitor Audio with their Silver line and maybe Polk with their R700. It's rather shocking that a speaker that is more than double the price of the Vento doesn't actually clearly beat it, just shows how great the Vento line was when it got introduced. For a more apples to apples comparison the K11 would need to face the Canton Reference line, that's probably where KEF is going to fall short.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
At one point the cantons were much more until they released their Revamped vento line. And now kef has their Revamped R line
@pastaman6099
@pastaman6099 2 жыл бұрын
Kefs had fuller midbass
@danblack4564
@danblack4564 2 жыл бұрын
The Cantons have a very strange sound with voices during the music. It is very apparent. They seem to have no body to them.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
They definitely do. But when you put them side by side it feels like it lacks a full sound. It's so weird.
@danblack4564
@danblack4564 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how they would sound with no EQing on them. I would be interested in a side by side with zero EQ on either one.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@danblack4564 if enough people requested it I could do it
@nathanvanstralendorff2405
@nathanvanstralendorff2405 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy by no than a request without EQ pure audio
@RC-qc2nz
@RC-qc2nz 2 жыл бұрын
It's really a side step. For so much more money you could buy a bunch of good subs or a new high end TV or something else. The sonic performance is on par and I get why you want something new. But that feeling of the new toy won't last as long. I know guys which started with kef and went to canton. So it's just preference. I guess you are not really honest to yourself and you see in the comments other guys which thinks the same. Espacially with long experience or professionals. I hope that you don't get into the "audiophile gear" wheel.
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm keeping my subs!!! Especially in this apartment. 2 Rythmik g25hps and a smaller Def tech. The bass is solid! And I just spent way too much on a ultra short throw projector. My goal is to listen to everything. I've never been unhappy with any of my purchases including now.
@ACM1000000PT
@ACM1000000PT 2 жыл бұрын
Canton is not even near to kef, the kef r11 is much better speaker, while canton have poor directivity, distortion of Canton at 90dB is 1% in mid range while the Uniq drom kef at 90dB have only 0.1% THD, even canton reference K have much higher distortion than kefs R, kef reference is another galaxy to what canton can do, distortion are even lower. Also cabinets are better objevtive.
@energyguruaustralia4363
@energyguruaustralia4363 Жыл бұрын
Kef lots more expensive
@eyeshezzy
@eyeshezzy 2 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of hissing noise
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
It's from the mic. There's zero in the room
@eyeshezzy
@eyeshezzy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy ohh..it gives the speakers a bad sound 😅
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@eyeshezzy I personally didn't hear it when I watched it but it's too late now
@eyeshezzy
@eyeshezzy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kpaceguy yeah . I had to look up other demos on KZfaq from nman and Thabarmar to get a better understanding of how they really sound
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@eyeshezzy that's a bad idea
@Joldoshev
@Joldoshev 8 ай бұрын
KEFF besser
@sven7054
@sven7054 Жыл бұрын
Canton👎
@Kpaceguy
@Kpaceguy Жыл бұрын
They sound better than they appear on KZfaq
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