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Horizontal Boring Mill Restoration: Reassembling the Saddle and Cutting Oil Grooves

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Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

Жыл бұрын

Horizontal Boring Mill Restoration: Reassembling the Saddle and Cutting Oil Grooves
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@sawz5
@sawz5 Жыл бұрын
OH the joys of working by your self!
@NotJRB
@NotJRB Жыл бұрын
I noticed Keith's Philmont belt. My uncle, for whom I am his namesake, went there. I don't know if as a scout or leader. He wore his belt a lot. He would be about 90 yo by now. Seeing Keith's belt took me back in time to fondly remember days spent with a terrific uncle.
@georgestephens2593
@georgestephens2593 Жыл бұрын
Being a scouter for many years I recognized Keith's belt right away. Keith has worn it in many of his videos. Nice to know Keith is a fellow scouter!
@petewindish9637
@petewindish9637 Жыл бұрын
It's never too early to get the grandkids into the shop! Hands and eyes, right! Great work, as usual. Thanks for the videos.
@petegraham1458
@petegraham1458 Жыл бұрын
Exciting to see it getting close to being back in service and working as originally designed! I am looking forward to seeing it working and making chips.
@melshea2519
@melshea2519 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Keith!😀
@elmarqo_3448
@elmarqo_3448 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the project that you need the boring machine for. You do a great job of restoring old iron.
@williamgates5401
@williamgates5401 11 ай бұрын
It has been very enjoyable watching you rebuild this Lucas Boring Mill. As a young man I cut my teeth on the same machine. With a little imagination you can make almost any machined part on this machine. Thank You Bill
@truckguy6666
@truckguy6666 Жыл бұрын
The engineering and manufacturing quality they put into that thing is really really impressive.
@avoirdupois1
@avoirdupois1 Жыл бұрын
Those mechanical power feeds are really impressive in their engineering. Thanks for demonstrating them so clearly.
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus Жыл бұрын
Man if I didn't live all the way in New York I'd come over and give you a hand whenever you wanted Keith. 👍👍
@artszabo1015
@artszabo1015 Жыл бұрын
Keith, if you listen very carefully you will hear all of us high fiving clapping and cheering for you. Art from Ohio
@jamesworsham125
@jamesworsham125 Жыл бұрын
Exciting stuff! “We’ve never been closer!”
@PatrickPoet
@PatrickPoet Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you found your groove;)
@CodyT362
@CodyT362 Жыл бұрын
Geez you're really carving it up out here aren't ya 😜🤣 that was a great pun, you got a thumbs up from me lol
@Metaldetectiontubeworldwide
@Metaldetectiontubeworldwide Жыл бұрын
Had same sort of joke in my mind 😁😉
@geraldharkness8830
@geraldharkness8830 Жыл бұрын
so pleased to see the saddle assembled and back on the boring mill well done keith!
@patrickcolahan7499
@patrickcolahan7499 Жыл бұрын
Coming together. Will be real nice once it is done. Thanks for sharing.
@cropsey7
@cropsey7 Жыл бұрын
your lifes work is going to be seen for years and years to come. The work it took to build these machines seems to be lost except for what ever documents/photos were left behind for us to decipher. Your videos are going to be.a valuable resource for many years to come.
@garyreiman856
@garyreiman856 Жыл бұрын
I love old iron and those like you that love it too. Saved two machines myself that were sitting outside for years. Luckily I got them before they were too far gone and bought them back to life. Love what you are doing. I watch every video.
@gagasmancave8859
@gagasmancave8859 Жыл бұрын
Great seeing the progress on the big iron lump, cannot wait to see it in action
@walterplummer3808
@walterplummer3808 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Keith. Great progress.
@carlbyington5185
@carlbyington5185 Жыл бұрын
Very, very cool Keith
@phillipjones3342
@phillipjones3342 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say I think you finally got it down and it looking good. Thanks for sharing your expertise. Looking forward to the rest of it.
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your interesting assembly job with us. I could feel your pain getting all those shafts and gears lined up and fitted together. Looking forward to seeing this big boy running again.
@paulkinzer7661
@paulkinzer7661 Жыл бұрын
A beautiful beast comes together!
@benny353
@benny353 Жыл бұрын
Enjoying this series, as with all your projects. Well done on the weight loss, looks like it's going well!
@WayneT51
@WayneT51 Жыл бұрын
Great progress Keith.👍🇦🇺
@williambramer8217
@williambramer8217 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Keith and nearly there.
@timmienorrie
@timmienorrie Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Keith. Great video.
@richardsurber8226
@richardsurber8226 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Keith, you're really good with the audio and such.
@nobuckle40
@nobuckle40 Жыл бұрын
As many have said already, it's exciting to see this coming together. Each installment cause anticipation for the next. Thanks Keith.
@ElliotNesterman
@ElliotNesterman Жыл бұрын
If you have to epoxy turcite under the tail stock or back ways don't use cling wrap to line the ways. Use plain old kitchen waxed paper. As you surely know most epoxies do not stick to plastics well. The epoxy used for turcite has obviously been formulated to stick to plastic, which is why the cling wrap did not come off the ways cleanly. Nothing stick to paraffin, which is what wax paper is made with. Wax paper should peel off the epoxy cleanly. Of course, it's always best to test first. Just a notion.
@kimber1958
@kimber1958 Жыл бұрын
GREAT JOB
@tomnorman5461
@tomnorman5461 Жыл бұрын
Looking good Keith!
@SciPunk215
@SciPunk215 Жыл бұрын
This was a big step forward !
@WilliamTMusil
@WilliamTMusil Жыл бұрын
Hiya Keith
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын
Great work, thanks for sharing.
@pmsteamrailroading
@pmsteamrailroading Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I look forward to seeing how this is used.
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 Жыл бұрын
Great video Keith, keep'um coming.
@tropifiori
@tropifiori Жыл бұрын
A gorgeous job
@LikeFactoryMade
@LikeFactoryMade Жыл бұрын
I am looking carefully at all your videos where you have applied turcite, and I know from the turcite specifications, that you should not cut the oil grooves so deep that its passing through it. Here I see that your oil grooves went up to the cast iron. Do you think that may end up being an issue? Also I saw on one of your videos that you have applied turcite on the bottom of a X axis slide. I am planning to do the same thing on my machine. Do you think that may become an issue with chips getting embedded into the soft turcite, then rubbing & scratching the bottom surface?
@robertbamford8266
@robertbamford8266 Жыл бұрын
Closer & closer. With patience and enough fiddling, almost anything is possible.
@Sizukun1
@Sizukun1 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious if Keith or anyone else repairing old machines think adding a discreet brass tag outlining they restored or repaired something on the machine and when? Or would that be a general waste of time and brass?
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that would be any different than woodworkers branding pieces they make. It would be nice for a future owner to know what was done to a machine and when.
@jcopley100
@jcopley100 Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if these videos will still exist 100 years from now and how hard it will be to find them. What a boon they would be for the next Keith Rucker that comes along.
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Dobbo2958
@Dobbo2958 Жыл бұрын
Really please for you well done. Very interested in this entire project
@michaelkoch2109
@michaelkoch2109 Жыл бұрын
You are an absolute perfectionist! I also like to work very accurately, but you put the crown on everything! 👏👍🛠😎 Best regards from Dresden! 🇩🇪❤🇺🇸
@kempermorrow4571
@kempermorrow4571 2 ай бұрын
I like your belt. T2010 Texas.
@6NBERLS
@6NBERLS Жыл бұрын
Most excellent.
@organbuilder272
@organbuilder272 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this might be better done with carving tools where the turkite be grooved with semi-circular grooves instead of abrupt deep cuts. The worm gear my work for a long time, but what about backlash, play in the shaft before the bed moves in any direction. Would this be a bother or something you can deal with when you get the feel of it? I'll bet you are one happy guy to have this together. Nice job.
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 Жыл бұрын
The instructions from Turcite (spelled with a c not a k) state to make the grooves no deeper than half the thickness of the Turcite. My milling machine had the grooves all the way through from the manufacturer and the way oil destroyed the adhesive bond. When I was reconditioning it the Turcite fell off when I took the machine apart. So on that basis I think Keith screwed up. I cut the new grooves in my machine with a round cutter in a Dremel tool so they had the profile you suggest. I don't know if that profile is better or not.
@rpmunlimited397
@rpmunlimited397 Жыл бұрын
Looks like there a gap on each end of the saddle from the Tercite gap. Thinking may be time for a video on fabricating way wipers to a machine that's without them. Looks like a swarf trap as is.
@jackpledger8118
@jackpledger8118 Жыл бұрын
Another great "how to" video.😀
@catfishgray3696
@catfishgray3696 Жыл бұрын
KEITH, COMING WRIGHT ALONG A GREAT JOB, TELL ALL HELLO...SEE YOU WHEN...
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.👍
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@paulmorrow5905
@paulmorrow5905 Жыл бұрын
have you ever used Rulon for your project. we used it on injection equipment under the moving carriage along with bronze. worked great for us
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut Жыл бұрын
Nice!! 🙂
@oldschool1993
@oldschool1993 Жыл бұрын
Put some wood blocks under the ends of the lead screws in case someone or something might press down on them.
@josephsawicki9335
@josephsawicki9335 Жыл бұрын
I admire everything you do, You are an extreme professional who pays attention to detail Please find a helper when you need one so you wont get injured trying to do a two man task, I love your videos' and need you around to make more OK so be safe Thanks Joe.
@sylvaingervais247
@sylvaingervais247 Жыл бұрын
salut jais remarquer si il a pas des essuie traque pour les ripes de métal tu a boucau avancer dans le travail sur la machine continu de faire des bon vidéo pour tout tes Spectateur partout dans le monde moi DU CANADA MERCI
@lwilton
@lwilton Жыл бұрын
Are there way wipers for the saddle? It looks like there probably should be.
@MrLukealbanese
@MrLukealbanese Жыл бұрын
Keith, great work. I've been wondering about the Turcuite though. On a lathe I get it, as the saddle and head are in a fixed vertical relationship, but surely on a Horizontal Boring Mill, the head is moving in the vertical plane?
@davidt8438
@davidt8438 Жыл бұрын
I can’t for the life of me figure out why you didn’t take some of the round pieces and chuck them up in the lathe so you could take some scotch brite and polish them to get rid of the surface rust and allow them to slide better for metal to metal contact as long as they were off the machine. They don’t have to look new but it sure would have helped with the friction. Also after scraping the zig zag pattern, you could have put a dab of way oil on them so any oiling of the parts would quickly follow the pre-oiled pattern.
@johnhenderson1760
@johnhenderson1760 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this working. Is it going to be used on the stoker engine?
@edwinfriedl2446
@edwinfriedl2446 Жыл бұрын
An amateur question. would or wouldn't it be a good idea to put some anti seize compound on things like tapered pins? I'm thinking in 30 -50 years someone will bless you making the pins easier to remove. Or is that a bad idea?
@bryansmant870
@bryansmant870 Жыл бұрын
Keith, I'm curious, what makes cutting a worm gear more challenging/different than cutting a helical gear? Is there a curve or something in the teeth that isn't apparent on the video?
@lwilton
@lwilton Жыл бұрын
Yes. If you look closely, you can see that the center of the worm gear is a smaller diameter than the sides. This is so it will wrap around the worm itself, which of course is a cylinder, so the teeth on the matching gear need to be cut cylindrically.
@stevennederhiser7125
@stevennederhiser7125 Жыл бұрын
I have been told by machine re builders that turcite is not a good material to use under a tail stock. Brass, bronze, steel, and or cast iron would be my considerations!
@charlieromeo7663
@charlieromeo7663 Жыл бұрын
Curious why some rebuilders would have that opinion. I restored my Harding HLVH that included a bed plate regrind. We installed Rulon on the saddle AND the tailstock. The results were remarkable and the accuracy of the machine is better than when it left Elmira back in 1969. The factory taper spec is .0001 in 6 inches. This lathe ended up at less than .0001 in 10 inches. Most, if not all Hardinge rebuilders shim the bed plate, which considerably less time consuming, especially because machining the underside of the tailstock is a workholding challenge.We beat it by designing and building a custom fixture that has pitch and yaw adjustment capability. I am surprised Keith scraped the oil grooves down to the cast iron which exposes the epoxy to the way oil.
@imbadwrench
@imbadwrench Жыл бұрын
Did Keith learn to polish hammer faces from Mark Novak or did Mark learn from Keith?
@jimdean7335
@jimdean7335 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to install way covers.
@RicochetRichard
@RicochetRichard Жыл бұрын
Did this machine have wipers?
@DarrinBaird
@DarrinBaird Жыл бұрын
How do you know how tight to make the gib?
@CatNolara
@CatNolara Жыл бұрын
Nice seeing it slolwy coming closer to being usable again Although I wonder, now that the saddle is a little bit raised up from the turkite, how do you make sure the shafts line up perfectly with the couplings at the headstock? I didn't see you adjust anything with shims etc. so did the turkite just randomly put everything to the perfect height to make up for wear and scraping?
@KennyEaton603
@KennyEaton603 Жыл бұрын
It was ground with intent of Turcite being applied. Any grinding shop familiar with the process can figure out the geometry and correctly grind ways to allow for necessary clearance. It’s something you need to plan ahead for, and I’m sure Keith went over dimensions, bed wear, etc with the grind shop so it went together correctly.
@bernardwill7196
@bernardwill7196 Жыл бұрын
The headstock can rise up and down , so that lil' turkite makes no problem. It is a horizontal boring mill , not a lathe or bridgeport mill.
@CatNolara
@CatNolara Жыл бұрын
@@bernardwill7196 I think you're missing the point, the studs where the shafts go into don't move with the headstock so you have to get the dimensions right before assembly. But seeing Kenny's comment, I think I forgot about what Keith said about getting the bed ground to a dimension fitting for the turcite. That does answer my question, even though I should have known that already lol...
@lecnac855
@lecnac855 Жыл бұрын
Does not matter. The head and out board support / tail stock move up and down in sync.
@bernardwill7196
@bernardwill7196 Жыл бұрын
@@CatNolara Ok you are right right and Keith is not an idiot, he know what he did. On the other hand that are old machines and so shims and such things are necessary to bring them proper alive.
@drewmog123456
@drewmog123456 Жыл бұрын
Is there anybody else here who thinks Keith’s wife is like Captain Mainwaring’s wife?
@guillermocarrillo3959
@guillermocarrillo3959 Жыл бұрын
Those drive rods look like they could of used a little rust cleaning.
@dlfabrications
@dlfabrications Жыл бұрын
Whom sells the oiler cups?
@drewmog123456
@drewmog123456 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why you scraped the underside faces very precisely but then put a layer of turquite over it.
@BrianEltherington
@BrianEltherington Жыл бұрын
Need to maintain standard height so feed rods can run concentric.
@drewmog123456
@drewmog123456 Жыл бұрын
@@BrianEltherington but what determined the thickness of the turcite(sorry, I don’t know how to spell it!!
@Tammy-un3ql
@Tammy-un3ql Жыл бұрын
👌👌👍👍
@newandoldtech5634
@newandoldtech5634 Жыл бұрын
28:50 Whats that noise? Sounds like a bell-
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 Жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like the straight cut gear noise from running the feed.
@phlodel
@phlodel Жыл бұрын
I really want to reach into my screen and lend a hand.
@charlesmiles9115
@charlesmiles9115 Жыл бұрын
😛😛😛😛❤❤❤🦾🦾🦴👍👍👍👍👍👍
@premierd8988
@premierd8988 Жыл бұрын
That gear is very badly worn Keith....you could shave with it . (but good enough)?
@curtisvonepp4335
@curtisvonepp4335 Жыл бұрын
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO SOME WORK?
@jimjames7479
@jimjames7479 Жыл бұрын
Are you losing weight?
@opieshomeshop
@opieshomeshop Жыл бұрын
*_I don't know that I like the tercite. I think Id rather chrome the ways and build up that way._*
@malindasamarasinghe9909
@malindasamarasinghe9909 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see a sleek you. You sound better, too less huffing and puffing.
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
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